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Evo ja sa jos jednom mmo igrom. Posto je 7 ujutro, a ja se jos igram, samo ukratko:

Rift je mnooogo dobra igra, barem za ovih 8 nivoa koje sam odigrao za jedno 6 sati. Totalni je rip off svega sto ste ikada videli u mmo igrama, ali to ovde uopste nije mana, cak naprotiv. Naime, uzeli sve sto je dobro, i onda ga jos unapredili.

Svideli su vam se achievemnti? Imamo ih.

Svideo vam se dual specialization? Evo, mi imamo 3x specialization. I ne samo to, sva tri mozes da koristis istovremeno. Broj kombinacija je neverovatan kako time mozes da izkastomiziras lika.

Imate talente? evo mi ih imamo vise, i ne samo sto ima "talent tree" nego ima "talent root". Kako uzimas na granama drveta talente, tako dobijas korenje, sa naravno sve boljim i boljim osobinama. Kombinujuci mozes da napravis bukvalno sta oces. Priest tank? no problem. Mage healer? No problem.

Svidelo vam se "nickname" koje dobijas za razne stvari kad uradis u igri? Evo mi imamo 2x nickname, jedan ispred, drugi iza imena, cisto da bude jos.

Svideli vam se public questovi iz warhammera online? evo imamo public questove, i ne samo to. Ima 3 vrste: 1. random event u svetu, 2. druga frakcija otvara portal, 3. ti otvaras portal. Imali ste problem sa organizovanjem grupe u public questu? ovde ima opcija koja izadje na vrh ekrana kada udjes: "join public quest group". Sta, ne mozes da nadjes druzinu za public quest? Nema problema, odredjeni questovi i likovi ti daju iteme kojima public quest pretvoris u quest koji mozes sam da resis.

Svideli vam se crossrealm pvp battlegrondovi? Imamo i to.

Svidja vam se crafting sistem iz wowa, i mogucnost boostovanja recepata iz warhammera online? Ukomponovano u jedno. I mozes da imas 3 profesije, ne 2.

itd, itd, itd

Osim toga pstoje i stvari koje prvi put vidim ovde (mada sam vrlo siguran da postoje u nekom drugom mmo, samo nisam igrao). Recimo, imaju soulshardovi koje skupljas i koji ti otkljucavaju dodatne podklase (svaka klasa ima 8 podklasa, i mozes u jednom trenutku da imas 3 aktivne). zatim neki fokusi koji stavljas na lika koji ti povecavaju ono sta ti oces. Ima vise slotova na heroju za opremanje generalno.

toliko za pocetak. Igra krece zvanicno 1. marta, na steamu ima se kupi prerelase, i onda imas headstart.
Ukratko igra mnogo obecava, i mislim da niko ko voli mmo nece baciti pare ako odma nabavi svoj primerak :)
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A samo sam mu rekao "ovi sa LOTRO svi krenuli da igraju neki novi MMO 'Rift' :D "...

Ja cu bogami ovaj put da sacekam da stignes do nekog nivoa, pa onda da razmisljam sta cu. Za sada mi se ne svidjaju 3 stvari:

1) pravili su anonimusi (trion???? sta su oni pametno napravili do sada???)
2) nemas kucu
3) ne mozes da sadis kupus (ove zadnje 2 stvari - pa to ko da nisu napravili igru :D )
3.5) malo mi je mnogo sareno za moj ukus, ali svakako nije kao WoW, ovo bih mozda mogao da progutam...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Bez kiselog kupusa nema selameta. To svako zna.

Samo mi Nikoliću brkati zbori, je li to fantastična ili fantazijska igra?
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Igra je fantasy tipa:

Radi se o sledecem: Zmajovi su posandrcali, i resili da uniste zemlju (Telaru). I uspeli su u tome. Svi PC i NPC likovi u igri su ustvari mrtvi. Onda su bogovi odlucili da to tako ne moze i neke vratili nazad u obliku guradiana (koji su neubivljivi, sto je sjajna podloga za to zasto mozes da se resurektujes kad te ubiju), ne na osnovu vrlina, nego na osnovu snage, sto znaci da su se vrnuli svi sa koca i konopca. E onda je polovina njih odlucila da su bogovi bez veze i da ce bolje da se biju protiv zmajova uz pomoc tehnologije (zapravo tehnoloske sprave vedjene magijom), i oni se sad zovu Defianti. Naravno, ovo se nije svidelo guardianima, i eto horde i alijanse u riftu. I taman kad su guardiani hteli da ih shebu, ovi otvorise riftove (odnosno rupe u prostoru koji omogucavaju kreaturama iz drugih plane-ova da udju na Telaru), tako da je sad status kvo. Svi se bore protiv riftova, a i medjusobno.

e sad malo jos o igri. Odigrah jos nekoliko sati danas (7) na onih nekoliko od juce (9), i mogu da kazem da sam potpuno zatecen koliko je igra ispeglana i dobra.
Izabrao sam server sa najvecom populacijom radi testa. Danas se desilo da sam cekao 5-6 minuta zbog preopterecenosti (sto je mnogo manje nego u wowu), medjutim danas su dodali jos 2 servera (na 10ak vec postojecih za englesko govorno podrucje). I to je to sto se tice loseih stvari.
Latency - manji od 50ms (najbolji do sada sam imao u wowu 130ms (ne racunam igre tipa world of tanks gde zapravo na serveru ima 30 ljudi)). Jutros ubijali treemana iz life plane-a, pola 8 ujutro, evropski server, za 3 minuta se nakupilo nas 25+, latency i dalje 35-50.

Kad smo vec kod treemana, ima neki mass polymorph koji baca sa vremena na vreme. Prvi put baci, svi muski likovi se pretvore u jelene, zenski u srne. Drugi put baci polimorf, svi se pretvore u lisice (sto znaci da nije jedna ista animacija).

Doticni raid ide glatko ko u wowu, bez ikakvih seckanja u pokretima, zastoja u upotrebi skilova i sl. UI za raid isti ko u wowu, sto ce reci super.

Mapa bolja od wowa, odnosno kao velika minimapa izgleda. Na njoj (kao i na minimapi) se vide kvestovi, otvoreni riftovi, velicina rifta, za koji level je rift. Dalje, mozes da postavis waypoint na mapi, imas filtere za sve i svasta. Ako se pokrenes ili te neko napadne dok gledas mapu, ona fade-uje u pozadinu, tako da vidis i mapu i sta se desava. Vide se svi point of interest, kad predjes misem, vidi se i slicica kao mali screenshot.

Dok radis kvestove ako predjes preko nekog moba, i on je deo tvog kvesta, izadje tooltip koje ti to kaze i koliko si odradio (kao u wow).

Crafting concept je kao u lotro, naime uzmes uglavnom jednu crafting i dve skupljacke profesije koje obezbedjuju materijale za tu crafting profesiju. Preglednost i organizovanost craftinga je kao u wowu, samo jos malo preglednije. Mozes i da dodajes stvari u recepat, sto proizvod cini boljim kao sto je trebalo da bude u warhammer online. Za razliku od wh online, ovde to i radi.

Karakter ima slotove ko u wowu, plus slotove za fokuse. Fokus ogranicava koliko mozes esencija da stavis na taj fokus. Sto bolji fokus, to skuplji. Placa se shardovima koje skupljas tako sto se bijes protiv kreatura u public questovima kad se otvori rift. Kao sto sam rekao vec ima 3x talent tree, plus talent root. Oruzja i opremu mozes da enhantujes, slotujes, da ih razbijas za materijale, ko u wowu. imas artifakte koje skupljas po svetu, i kad skupis neki set, odes do kolekcionara i on ti da bogatu nagradu (itemi, potovi, cudesa).

PVP - scenariji ko u warhammer online, igrivost ko u wowu. Vreme cekanja 1 minut. I u 7 ujutro je jedan minut.

Aukcijska kuca, ko u wowu, samo malo bolja. Na primer u wowu shift click na item ti prekopira ime objekta u search polje na aukcijskoj kuci (ovo mnoge igre nemaju). Onda moras da pritisnes enter. Ovde pritisnes desno dugme na misu i to je to.

Grafika bolja od wowa tehnicki, artisticki opet bolja od wowa (po mom misljenju). Tacno izmedju wowa i lotra, znaci za obe populacije.

I tako sve u krug. Ima milijardu sitnih stvari koje recimo wow odvajaju od ostalih igara, kao i mnoge sitne stvari u drugim mmo koje su dobre. Sve se nalaze ovde u riftu, i mozda i malo bolje organizovane. Jaaaako dugo vremena nisam video da je neko jos pre izlaska (zvanicnog) igre ovako dobro odradio posao (uzmimo i u obzir da ja nisam cuo za ovu firmu do sada). Bukvalno ni jednom nisam pomislio e ovo su mogli ko u wowu ili lotru ili wh online, a mnogo puta sam pomislio e ovo je isto ko u wowu ili necemu drugom samo bolje.

Ostaje da se iskusi dungeon (mada sam gledao na youtube beta dungeon i nisam imao zamerke nikakve), i da se malo izleveluje da se vidi dal je igra ispeglana skroz do lvl 50 (da ne bude neprijatno iznenadjenje ko u connanu). Videvsi ovo do sad, morace nesto jako jako jako gadno da ne valja da bi narusilo moj utisak.
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Nakon sto sam cuo da je i Moma podlegao, morao sam i ja :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Jutros kad sam krenuo na posao, ostalo je jos 2 sata downloada. Posle neki mali update, kako kaze master Joggy, pa onda jedno 6-7 sati igranja, tek da se zagrejem. Ladno cu da propustim teretanu danas zarad igranja MMO igrice...... :( :twisted:
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E nemoj bez teretane, spasce ti svi oni misici, ima omlitavis, i kako ces onda da budes uspesan assassin :D ?

Salu na stranu, izjebadoste me vrhunski - Nikola uze druida koji mi se igrao (1. choice), ti assassina (koji mi je bio 4. choice - mada je rouge bio 2. choice), i sad ostajem sa "moralnom dilemom vlasnika BMW-a": da li da igram ono sto ce svima da nam koristi (tenk - paladin plus nesto kasnije) ili onim sto mi se svidja (ranger, koji bi mi bio 2. choice). Ili da prvi put u zivotu probam magove (elementalist) :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Uzmi bre sta oces :D . Kolko sam video na youtubu rogue ima milion podvrsta tako da mozes da kombinujes. Ja sam ga uzeo posto mi je nikola rekao da je tank zahtevan (hteo sam reavera), a magovi imaju toliko nekih slotova da ja kao ultra noob u MMO to ne bi pohvatao ni za godinu dana. Po forumima kazu da je rogue-saboteur-bombas za sada izuzetno zajeban pa eto mozda to da probas...
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A i da dodam za ostale weekend warriore (Zubor, Morkin, Steva):

Ae nemoste sise, uzite igricu!!!
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Koristan link je:

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0chgE ... 0Vc.xEz00z

imas build tree za sta hoces.

Trenutno gledam: ranger-marksman-saboter

A eventualno: paladin-warlord-nesto (void?)

edit: za neukog Momu: mozes da kliknes na klasu pa da promenis ceo class tree ili na podklase da promenis, jelte, podklasu ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Assasin-bladedancer-riftwalker, to je moj izbor...
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Ja cu verovatno ipak uzeti paladin (najvise poena)-warlord (nesto manje)-reaver (svega par poena u njemu - ali bitnih :D), da bi mogli da imamo instant-ekipu (tenk, healer i DPS).

A napravicu u nekom trenutku i ostalo - ionako sa 4 karaktera imas sve ;). Bacicu ti malo oko na tvoje grane da pogledam sta sve mozes ;).

edit: mada sad kad gledam - hunter se vrlo lepo slaze sa assassinom: ti mu napravis jedan od svojih milijardu bleed efekata, a kad neprijatelj ima bleed na sebi (hunter ima samo par takvih napada), onda ga pet otkida od zivota :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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ja sam te comboe uzeo sa neta/jutjuba gde pametniji od mene pokazuju sta koja klasa radi i to.. :)
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Pa pazi - sve zavisi kako hoces da igras ;). Ono sto sam ja gledao recimo, nikako mi se ne bi "riftwalker" :D (riftstalker) uklopio u assassin-bladedancer kombinaciju.

Moja logika kad igram DPS (damage per second) je da me ne interesuje health, odbrana, heal (koji DPS likovi po pravilu ne mogu da bace sami na sebe), itd., nego samo da maksimizujem damage. Kad igras solo bitno ti je da sto pre ubijes lika, jer po pravilu DPS ima problem sa drugim stvarima (recimo u tvom slucaju sa malim oklopom). Kad igras u grupi, tenk treba da nanosi toliko puno thread-a da tvoj damage ne utice na bossa (sto ce u prevodu reci: sve sto si potrosio na armor / health / itd su baceni poeni). A healer i onako nece da se koncentrise na tebe nego na maintank i off tank likove (eventualno ako ima group heal...).

Ako bih ti sve to preveo na RIFT: kada igras u grupi, tenk je igrac koji ce da koristi sve one sarene napade na kojima pise "generate additional thread", healer ce da leci gotovo samo tenka (jer njega svi biju). A ostali su tu da nanose dmg, i da pomogucstvu ne privuku "additional threadom" nesto na sebe, jer ako privuku, gotovo sigurno si mrtav.

Gledao sam malo i mage granu. Pokusavam i tu da sastavim nesto pametno. Svidja mi se sto dominator ima bas lep crowd control (fear, stun, root, itd. na protivnike), za male poene (16), tako da mi ostane dosta toga da potrosim na ostalo. Problem je sto dominator pravi death damage - a kod magova, gotovo svaka subklasa pravi svoj tip dmg-a.

edit: ovo mi je najkompaktniji tree koji sam uspeo da napravim za maga: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0zswv ... zho.scRVko (mozda samo da warlock ne koristi poslednje 2 stvari (mada sam njih uzeo zbog lepog root abilitija koji dobijes njima), nego da necron poveca na maximalnih 50% health peta). Sad odoh da gledam dalje buildove, pa cu stavljati linkove ;).

edit2: build za tenka http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0chEA ... ok.xzqduzk (mozda moze da se malo smanji paladin sa ponistavanjem fear, stun, itd., jer reaver vec ima 1, ali okvirno mi se ovo cini dosta dobro). Sad ka shooterima :D.

edit3: shooter rouge: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0cEhg ... 0Muz0Vszrz. Sad na DPS rougea...

edit4: kako bih ja napravio DPS rouge-a: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MMVi ... 0o.V0tMMoM. I ostaje mi jos da razmislim o ultra healeru.

edit5: healer: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00ejG ... ok.E0kVszz (mada mislim da ovo moze i bolje)
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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Misilm da si u pravu da mu lecenje ne treba, znaci assasin+bladedancer+jos nesto... Jos 10 min i odoh kuci....

Jos samo da matorog Njorkina nagovorimo...... O:) O:)
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ja kao i uvek u mmo, pravim lika onako kako se meni svidja. ne mora da bude najbolji bild, bitno je da meni bude cool, a onda se trudim da izvucem max u igranju. Naravno, ovde je olaksavajuca (mnogo olaksavajuca) okolnost ta sto mozes da imas vise bildova (3 sigurno, a mozda i vise), tako da ako situacija (grupno igranje) zahteva zaista ozbiljnost, onda se prebacim na to za 5 sekundi. U suprotnom, kad solo questiram, onda koristim onaj bild koji se meni licno najvise svidja.
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E jes' - i ja onda hocu da igram huntera, ali se to ne uklapa najbolje sa vama ostalima :D... Nema bre veze, dobar je i ovaj paladin (uzeo sam onu kombinaciju koju sam naveo).

Ne svidja mi se grafika, ali mi nije odvratna kao u wow-u. Doduse to je samo na osnovu ove pocetne regije, videcemo kasnije. Tehnicki je super uradjena, ali mi je LOTRO grafika artisticki bolja (ali tehnicki vekovima zaostala).

Umalo da umrem na 2. koga sam napao :D. Teze je malo nego u drugim igrama, ali sam u principu zadovoljan. Samo ako me grafika ne smori bice sve super ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Dobro je, sledeca regija je vec drasticno bolja :D. Mada mi je prijavila igra da nemam najnovije drajvere za grafiku, to cem sutra da skinem i da se poigram sa opcijama. Moram pod hitno da nadjem kako da imam vise quick slotova aktivno odjednom. Ovako ne mogu da igram sa 10 quick slotova :D (posto vec na 9. nivou dokle sam sad stigao imam oko 20 stvari :D).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Koji ste riftashi ne verujem:)
Nekoliko ljudi koje znam sa wowa su krenuli rift da igraju.
Meni je wow i dalje zabavan a "snage" za 2 mmoa nemam,tako da ostajem gde jesam:)
A vi uzivajte,cuo sam da je igra dobra:)
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E Stevo, ne moras da igras nekog fajtera... igraj nesto za sta treba wisdom ili intelligence... toga valjda imas na pretek :P ;).

Ona fora sa riftovima mi se bas dopala. Mada je vec bilo 4 ujtru kad sam stigao do tog dela sa riftovima, tako da nista nisam skontao :D, osim da me je nesto odjednom olesilo, onda sam ne znam ni sam kako bio nesto respawnovan, a onda stvorilo jos par ljudi oko mene, od kojih je jedan lecio mene, ja sam uspesno drzao neko zlo na sebi, i jedan je lesio ko nenormalan.

Grafika je, u artistickom smislu, bliza wowu nego lotrou, to mi se nije svidelo (ali verujem da je velikoj vecini igraca ovo prednost). Nije sarena kao wow (mislim, jeste sarena, ali ne na onaj odvratni nacin). I nije onako decije-stripovska kao wow.

I moram danas da zovem spiritualnog vodju, da mi objasni u ovim naprednim igrama kako se podesava UI (user interface). Uspeo sam juce da prilagodim tastaturu ostalim igrama (nikako nisam uspevao da kliknem "B" za bagove, jer sam godinama pritiskao "I" kao inventory), medjutim nikako nisam uspeo da namestim quick slotove da budu kao u LOTRO-u (da ih ima vise od 10). Niti kako da namestim da se vise stvari vidi na mapi.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Ono što videh na netu je da možeš da imaš dva po deset za sebe plus jedanza ljubimca.
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Ma prisao sam ja nekom panelu za UI, ali nisam uspeo da nesto promenim... u njemu je bilo recimo nekih 6, mozda i vise, slotova koji mogu da se aktiviraju. Deluje mi nemoguce da ne moze, tako da sam siguran da moze, samo ja jos ne znam kako ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Kakav bre fajter...ja igram..mecku:P

Kako god..cini se da je Blizz po prvi put onako..izgubljen...od izlaska cataclysm-e konstantno menjaju klase,navodno pokusavajuci da ih izbalansiraju.
To je,medjutim,dovelo do konstantnih promena kod klasa...bukvalno jednom nedeljno tumbaju stvari,nerfuju,bustuju itd sto je pocelo da zestoko smara ljude.
Izgleda da su prvi put od izlaska igre pozurili sa releasom expanzije jer je evidentno da je to sve trebalo jos istestirati.
NEverovatno veliki broj ljudi koje znam u WOWu je u poslednja dva dana otpalio na rift.
Meni je ostalo jos metar dana pretplate..pa cu videti sta cu:)
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Stevan wrote:pa cu videti sta cu:)
Nemoj da gledas, nego uz'i rift ;).

Oni riftovi sto izlecu su cudo, to je u stvari glavna fora. Umesto onog standardnog "oh ne, sad opet moram da idem od tacke A do tacke B, a usput se nista nece desiti", sada imas riftove na sve strane, koje usput zatvaras, ubijas neke senke, pticurine :D.

I jos kad podesis skype, i na svakih par minuta cujes Momu "E jebiga... aaa jebote...", onda je ugodjaj potpun :D.

Nikola je vec napravio 2. lika :D, ja sam stigao na pola nivoja od njega, pa cu i ja 2. lika dok nas Moma stigne. Onda ide 1. dungeon, za koji sam cuo samo reci hvale. A imamo u ekipi sve sto treba (tenk, healer, i DPS koji ima stunove). Taman jos kad biste ti i Zeljko dosli da imamo full ekipu, to bi bila prava stvar ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Znas kako..dacu ja riftu prvo malo sanse da se dokaze:P
Zaista nemam kesha sad za tu zajebanciju..videcemo..za mesec-dva.
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Pa dokazao se cim sam ja, mega noob za mmo igrice odma uzeo, PLATIO!!! i primio se... A i taman da oformimo ekipu, Nikolici, ti,ja i Tata Morkin- Weeekend warriors MMO edition :)
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stevco, nema sta da cekas, ova igra je hit. Ljudi prodali milion kopija prvog dana prerelease-a. Dungeon ovaj jedan sto sam igrao je ekstra ispeglan, ide ko u wow-u, ima i skripti ko u wow-u, ima jos nekih fora koje necu otkrivati jer sam se odusevio i sam kad sam prvi put video, itd.itd.
Probali smo i grupni pvp, jedno 5 partija. Cekali smo 3 minuta na prvu partiju, a onda je svaka sledeca bila instant. malo nam nije islo dok nisam jaaaa poceo da lecim, e onda je sasvim druga prica :)

sve u svemu, kao sto reko, nema sta da cekas, ovo je sigurni hit

evo pogledaj ocene publike http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rift
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Joks nema se kesha:)
Ajde recite im da izbace trial 10 dana..sto su bulje:)
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Čuj deset, ja čekam onaj od dve nedelje. Oca im kaptalističkog!
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stevco, nema sta da cekas, ova igra je hit
Ma nikse igra deluje stvarno dobro ali nekako, poucen iskustvom, problemi (ako ih bude) ce se verovatno pokazati u endgameu..na 50. lvlu.
Poenta je zapravo..koliko zadrzaja ce igra pruzati posle nekog vremena..i da li ce developeri nesto od tih silnih ziliJona koje su uzeli po releaseu,uloziti u razvoj igre:)
3-4 meseca i sve ce biti jasno:)
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evo sad sam dosao do trece zone, lvl 29 skoro, igra je i dalje ista kao na pocetku, sto ce reci super.

Sto se tice endgame, imas pvp, imas nesto specijalno za pvp endgame, imas da resavas neke riftove sa grupom i sa raidom, imas raidove ko u wow, i imas heroic dungeone. Plus, mozes da skupljas artifakte kojih ima zilijon, a svi nesto donose, i imas crafting koji je meni bolji od wowa, a i za sada je mnogo bitniji (kad popijes pot za +stat to se stvarno oseti). Plus u okviru svoje klase imas 9 podklasa, od kojih mozes da koristis 3, i tako 4 grupe, tako da je tu samo naci kombinaciju ludnica. kao cleric recimo mozes da imas jedan build za dps, jedan za tank, jedan za heal i jedan za pvp.
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Ja sam stigao do (pred kraj) 4. regije, i isto mogu da kazem da igra radi najnormalnije.

Naisao sam na nekoliko bugova do sada, ali su to toliko minorni bugovi, da cak i ne zameram. Okvirno, evo spisak negativnih stvari koje mogu da primetim:
- high elf ima ability "leteci skok". Pri prizemljivanju, ne nastavis da trcis ako se pomeras na tastaturi (ako se pomeras misem sve radi). I malo je grafika pri "sletanju"... recimo neizostrena, ne tece sve glatko.
- stranica sa artifaktima nije htela da se ucita do reloga (nisam mogao da ubacim deo artifakta). Desilo mi se 2 puta.
- ikona misa se "stuck-ovala" i nije se menjala do reloga (slucajno sam kliknuo srednje dugme misa i jos nesto u brzini, i ostala je neka ikona). Desilo mi se 1.
- latency je prikazivan kao mali, iako je bio veoma veliki (vikend, krcat server, krcat que, posle major riftova, kad je doslo do major invazije). Desilo mi se vikendom, kada je krcat server.
- po mom misljenju, moraju hitno da urade nesto na rasterecenju servera. Vikendom su serveri bas full (ceka se recimo 20 minuta na login). Razumem da nisu ocekivali milion pretplata, ali kad su ih vec dobili, treba uloziti u jos novih servera i zatvoriti pristup starim. Naravno, posledica punog servera je i latency kada je major invasion, itd.
- nisam siguran da li je do toga kako su mi bile podesene (default) opcije, posto mi se kasnije nije ponovo desavalo (kada sam promenio settinge), ali kada si u raidu, i jedan clan napadne PVP, ceo raid se flaguje da je PVP. Takodje, jednom mi se desilo da me je neko napao PVP iako nisam bio flagovan (opet, moguce da neki setting nisam dobro podesio), ali sam uspeo da zbrisem :P. Najveca zamerka u ovoj grupi je sto kada neprijatelj napadne raid, on postane crven, i jako je tesko (nemoguce) voditi racuna o tome da ga ne udaris, da ne bi i ti postao flagovan. Posebno je nemoguce ako ste u nekom vatrenom riftu.
- vatreni riftovi imaju katastrofalnu nepreglednost (takoreci, nista se ne vidi, ni na ultra high grafici ni na low grafici).

Ovo mi je bukvalno celokupan spisak negativnih stvari koje sam do sada iskusio.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ajde i ja malo da prokomentarisem igricu sa stanovista mmo nooba:

Tehnicki igra je dobra, grafika, gameplay, itd, poneki manji bag, ali je podnosljivo. Malo mi smeta, sto je prica dosta ''plitka'', nema nekog dubljeg uvoda u svet, istoriju, itd. Valjda je tako u svim mmo, ipak su ove igra namenjene i americkoj maloumnoj deci, a ne ljubiteljima baldur's gate i sl. Kvestovi ponekad umeju da smaraju, posto se svode na ubi ovo, donesi ovo, idi od tacke a do tacke b, ali opet, sve to ima i u regularnim frp igricama samo za nijansu komplikovanije. Sve u svemu ok.

Ono sto meni malo nedostaje je vise dungeona koji mogu da igraju vise igraca zajedno. Do 26 nivoa, na kome sam sad, Nikolici i ja smo odigrali samo 2 dungeona, koliko ih i ima u ponudi. Dobio sam i 3 dungeon za lvl 30 ali dok ne budem bar lvl 31,32 necu ga igrati. Smeta mi sto je toliko malo dungeona a oni su, po meni, najzanimljiviji deo igre.

Imam utisak da je igri potrebno malo vise raznovrsnosti, ali ok, tek je izasla, pa ce valjda da postepeno izbacuju dodatke. Samo mi nije jasno, zasto ima tako malo zajednickog igranja, doduse mozda je tako u svim mmo igricama, ne znam.

P.S. I molba braci ''Riftovic'': ili levelujte do 50 nivoa, pa krenite sa drugim likom dok ja ne stignem do 30, ili malo usporite, posto necu stici da odigram dungeone sa vama mojim opustenim tempom igranja od nekoliko sati dnevno... :D
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P.S. I molba braci ''Riftovic'': ili levelujte do 50 nivoa, pa krenite sa drugim likom dok ja ne stignem do 30, ili malo usporite, posto necu stici da odigram dungeone sa vama mojim opustenim tempom igranja od 8 sati igranja dnevno nekoliko sati dnevno...
Samo zavrsim ovu regiju i stacu, pa cu napraviti jos jednog lika ;).

Stici cete me sada. Danas mi se vraca gospodarica mog vremena, tako da cu manje igrati ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa i ja sam prosle nedelje zrtvovao pumpanje preko potrebnih misica zbog rifta. Ove nedelje se teretana nastavlja tako da mi je realno igranje svedeno na period od 20.00-01.00. Par levela dnevno... :(
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Heh imam ipak jos jedan dan full time job igranja :D. Taman da stignem sa drugim likom do pola tvog levela :D.

Javlja mi se da ce pasti jedan crowd controll / DPS mag ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Rift mmorpg

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Momo sto se zajenickog igranja tice,hmm takve stvari obicno krecu na top levelu..do tada ljudi uglavnom jurcaju ne bi li dosli do tog top evela i krenuli endgame da pikaju a ,kako nema svako istu kolicinu slobodnog vremena za igranje,tu se ekipa obicno malo rasturi ..pa se ponovo skupi na 50.lvlu(za rift) tj 85. za wow:P
Niksone ja ne mislim da ce igra biti dosadna ili sta vec u levelovanju do 50. lvl (u stvari nadam se da nece uospte biti dosadna) ,ali prosto..stvari dodju na svoje posle nekog vremena.
Znaci docices do 50.lvl ...posle nekog vremena pregazices ceo sadrzaj igre mnogo puta i ,ako ne bude kontent updateova, dosada ne gine.
Najbitnije je da bude kontent peceva u nekom kontinuitetu.
U WOWu uskoro izlazi kontent pec sa novim dungeonima + novim rejdom a ja jos nisam polovinu stvari ocistio:)
Ako tako bude u riftu,igra ce biti veliki win.
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Re: Rift mmorpg

Post by joggy »

za sada je retko ko i stigao na lvl 50, tako da to ostaje da se vidi, mada mislim da su se ovi bas zainatili. Naravno patchevi moraju da dodaju dungeone, radove i sl, ali to ostaje da se vidi. Sigurno to nije u planu u narednih par meseci
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Re: Rift mmorpg

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Ja sam hteo da pocnem da ga igram ali cu sacekati jos da vidim da li ce zaziveti malo bar ,kakvi su setovi itema i raidovi i tako to,posto vidim da ljudi odustaju (ali to je tako inace).
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Re: Rift mmorpg

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Ja primecujem da je server sve puniji i puniji. Toliko imam da kazem, za sada, na temu napustanja rifta.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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