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Post by joggy »

mislim da je red da se otvori nova tema, i da se stavi sticky :)

prvo pitanjce:
nigde ne pise da shooting ne moze da se radi u combat, sto onda ispada da pucaci mogu i da pucaju u shooting fazi na bilo sta (samo da vide), a onda i da napadnu u combat fazi
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Na to smo juce naisli i, da, posle ponovnog iscitavanja pravila, velika razlika je u tome sto sada nemas jedinice koje su "locked in combat"; samo je pitanje da li si u tri inca od neprijatelja. Znaci, iako bi po starim pravilima bio "locked", sada mozes da se pomeras, da pucas i da se bijes.

Takodje, cak i jedinice koje nisu bile meta jurisa ali su u Combat fazi u tri inca od neprijatelja mogu da se tuku.
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Q: Posto se meri od figure do figure, sta se desava ako je figura na postolju koje je metar visoko (neka zica, potporni stub i sl.), a igra se onaj scenario da mora da se ubije odredjeni model?

Q: Sta se desava ako postavim 1000 bloodthirstera?
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A: Onda ti Silikonko sumonuje horore gore pa se bijete.

A: Ne mogu da stanu u deploy zonu. Samo 300 :).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Q: Koliko je ''within'' terena da se dobije bonus od covera?

Q: Zasto je cover ako stojim na zidu ali ne i iza zida?



Salu na stranu, mislim da bi svako sa iole malo mozga, za par sati, smislio bolja pravila.... I ja bih voleo da probam nove warskrolove ali mi je glupo da prvo sat vremena preciziram pravila sa saigracem.

A 2 izdanje Kings of War izlazi 10.jula u beslpatnom pdf-u.....
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A: Resenje 1) ako je visoko metar, onda ni ta figura ne moze nista da uradi, taj scenario bira onaj ko ima za 1/3 manje modela kao sudden death, ali i onda on izabira jedan od 6 ponudjenih pa ne mora da izabere bas taj. I onda posto ne moze da se zavrsi partija normalno, racuna se ko je ubio vise procenata i on pobedjuje

resenje 2) pise da postolje nema ulogu u igri, pa stoga moze da se kaze da se igra kao da ga nema

resenje 3) bacis kockicu pa ko dobije vecu njegovo tumacenje prolazi taj put

A: ne mozes toliko da stavis u zonu, mada nema ni ogranicenja za maks tablu, tako da ipak mozes da ih stavis ako je tabla dovoljno velika. samo jos da platis 70.000 funti i eto ti manckin armija
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doriane, jedini nacin da izadjes iz 3" je da se povuces, ali onda nema shooting i charge, osim ako nemas neko posebno pravilo za samu jedinicu. Ali da, mozes da pucas pa da chargujes, ili ako si vec u 3" da pucas pa da se bijes, tako bar izgleda po pravilima
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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joggy wrote:A: Resenje 1) ako je visoko metar, onda ni ta figura ne moze nista da uradi, taj scenario bira onaj ko ima za 1/3 manje modela kao sudden death, ali i onda on izabira jedan od 6 ponudjenih pa ne mora da izabere bas taj. I onda posto ne moze da se zavrsi partija normalno, racuna se ko je ubio vise procenata i on pobedjuje

resenje 2) pise da postolje nema ulogu u igri, pa stoga moze da se kaze da se igra kao da ga nema

resenje 3) bacis kockicu pa ko dobije vecu njegovo tumacenje prolazi taj put

A: ne mozes toliko da stavis u zonu, mada nema ni ogranicenja za maks tablu, tako da ipak mozes da ih stavis ako je tabla dovoljno velika. samo jos da platis 70.000 funti i eto ti manckin armija
Sto da platim, eto dogovorimo se da imam 1000 kartoncica na kojima pise Бладтрстер.(ako dobijem vecu kockicu prodje moje tumacenje, i tako 1k puta)
Pogotovo mi se svidja resenje pod br.3. Esencija dobrog pisanja pravila.
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Da, nisam jasno napisao, ali i mislio sam na povlacenje, koje je u sustini normalan move, osim sto moras da izadjes iz 3" od neprijatelja i gubis "shooting" i "charge".
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KOW 2 pravila su vec izasla, a 10. ce i "zvanicno" pustiti na sajt da bi ispostovali kickstartere.

Musa je nasao lepo formatiranu WIP5 verziju:
KOW-2nd-Ed-WIP5.2.pdf
(2.28 MiB) Downloaded 139 times
A WIP7 verzija je na:
https://manticforum.com/forum/kings-of- ... core-lists

Verujem da ce izmene biti minimalne.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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U pravilima pise da postoji 8 relmova (pa daju primer za vatreni relm), ali ja nigde nisam pronasao opis svakog od njih i sta svaki sa sobom nosi pa ako moze mala pomoc u vezi s tim ukoliko neko zna vise od ovoga :)
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Nema jos uvek realmova. Takodje, neki modeli (poput Baltasara Gelta) imaju bonuse kada se bitka odigrava u odredjenom realmu, ali za sada ih nisu izbacili. A sad, da li je to slucajno ili namerno, ko ce ga znati...
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Model ima DVA ORUZJA.
Q1: da li mu to donosi jos jedan napad i ako mu u warscrolu pise da ima samo jedan? ili mu to donosi samo onaj bonus koji pise u warscrolu ako koristi dva oruzja? (npr za orke pise da ako koristim dve chope imam reroll keceva za to hit)
Q2: koliko dodatnih napada dobija taj model od generalove sposobnosti koja kaze da model dobija po jedan dodatni napad za sva melee oruzja koja imaju? "all models make 1 extra attack with all of their melee weapons"
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A1: Donosi mu taj re-roll 1's samo.
A2: Ako model ima 2 napada onda (uz taj bonus) ima 3 napada.
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A ako model ima dva razlicita oruzja, da li onda dobija napad za svako od njih? npr savage orci kosite dva oruzja koje im svako daje po jedan napad a svako ima drugacije karakteristike. jedno je 4+/4+ sa rendom, a drugo je 4+/5+ bez renda.
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Dobijes napad za svako od njih, ali ti ne biju svi modeli sa svim tim..pise ti u opisu jedinice sta mogu da nose- tipa, neki nose ti 4/4, a neki 4/5 ili svi jedno...itd itd.
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A unit of Savage Orcs has 10 or more
models. Some units of Savage Orcs fight
with Stone Choppas while others fight with
Flint Spears. These units also carry either
Bone Shivs to make themselves even more
fighty, or Crude Shields for much needed
protection in combat.
Na ovo sam mislio.
Takodje, primera radi, Savage Warboss moze da ima- Stonecleava ILI Granite Choppa and a Bone Shield ILI pair of Granite Choppas, dobijajuci odgovarajuce bonuse koji pisu u daljem opisu jedinice.

Nadam se da si sad pohvatao.. :)
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These units ALSO carry either
Bone Shivs to make themselves even more
fighty...
ti bone shivs su drugo oruzje pored chope ili koplja.
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Tako je. :grin:
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znaci i chopa i bone shiv dobijaju po +1 napad, sto samim tim stavlja savage orca na 2xchopa napad+2xbone shiv napad, sa onim generalovim bonusom?
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Da li se pile in radi slicno kao i u 40k, tj model po model pa ko gde stane ili ide po automatizmu pa se samo poguraju malo modeli da budu zbijeniji?

Da li prilikom bitke modeli smeju da pridju blize jedan drugom od pola inca?

Da li general daje svoj Bravery drugim jedinicama oko sebe?

Hvala unapred svima koji mogu da odgovore i na taj nacin pomognu :)
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1. Recimo ali nije nužno. Pomeraju se prema najbližem modelu da mogu da ga udare. Ne direceno je. (Gle čuda)
2. Da
3. Ne osim ako nema neko specijalno pravilo
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
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Supe Dule, hvala puno :) odigrah veceras svoju prvu partiju pa su mi ovo bile nedoumice :)
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Evo mene sa jos nedoumica...

Ako prilikom charge-a jedinica A uspesno jurisa na jedinicu B, da li prilikom pile in-a jedinica C koja se nalazi na 3" od jedinice A moze da se prikljuci borbi? U pravilima za pile in pise da sve jedinice koje se nalaze na manje od 3" mogu da pile in-uju :)

Ukoliko je odgovor potvrdan onda ovo otvara nove takticke mogucnosti u ovoj igri :D

edit: da li model koji nanosi d3 rane, nanosi d3 rane po jedinici ili po modelu?

Isto pitanje se tice i warmacjine-a. Npr, ako onaj skavenski pison wind mortar, pogadja na 4+, pa ranjava na 4+ i radi d6 rana, da li on ubije d6 modela u jedinici ili ubije jedan model a nanosi nekom monsteru ili modelu sa vise rana d6 istih?
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jedinica A ne mora da charge-uje samo jednu jedinicu, moze koliko hoce, samo je uslov da jedna bude u 12" pre charge-a, i da se charge zavrsi na najvise 0.5" od jedne jedinice. A onda svaka druga jedinica koja je u 3 inca se racuna kao da je u comabtu.

D3 po jedinici, dakle ako bacis 3 (5-6), ubijes tri recimo swordmena
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"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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+1
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Super, hvala na objasnjenju :)
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Патуљачки велможа у свом ратном свитку има:
- кубуру (даљно наоружање)
- рунско оружје (за борбу прса у прса)
- тешко рунско оружје (за борбу прса у прса)

У Опису Патуљачког велможе стоји да НЕКИ носе рунско оружје и предачки штит, ДРУГИ више воле тешко рунско оружје, а ПОНЕКИ кубуру и рунско оружје.

Да ли то значи (а мени тако изгледа) да треба бирати од понуђених могућности, односно, да исти модел не може да користи и кубуру, и рунско оружје и тешко рунско оружје у истом боју? У противном би модел који кошта 5 рана теоретски могао да нанесе 1 рану гађањем и 23 (!) ране у борби прса у прса.

За Штитоноше је јасно написано да се моделу, тек ако има штитоноше, увећавају Ране и Храброст и да тек онда може да напада маљевима штитоноша.

П.С. И који мој су "Дуардини"?
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Duardini su ako se ne varam novi naziv za patuljke :) kao sto su vilenjaci aelfovi, lizardmeni serafoni ird.

A sto se tice naoruzanja, bas je tako kako si rekao, moras da biras izmedju ponudjenih opcija iako nigde nije eksplicitno objasnjeno sta sve moze da se bira. Ovako je ostavljeno vise na savest igracima da postuju logiku koju su narativno naveli.
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Хвала!
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gw je ustvari gledao sve modele koje su oni izbacili i cime su naoruzani, tako da je bukvalno naoruzan onako kako vidis na njemu, pod uslovom da nisi radio neke konverzije. U principu je ostalo na tebi da koristis zdrav razum, ja recimo ne vidim zasto ne bi mogao patrljak da se bije sa pistoljem u jednoj i nekim drugim oruzjem u drugoj ruci (osim ako naravno nije dvoruko oruzje u pitanju)
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