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Totalna wishlista. Lictor sa WS 9?! I inicijativom 9?!
I hierodule sa sve statovima iz apokalipse (Sta vise, sa dve rane vise) da se vodi ovako kao u obicnim partijama? t8 w8 cudoviste?! Ma i osoba koja je pravila ovu wishlistu je na nekim teskim drogama...

"let's make the lictor just as good as the Avatar" "but the avatar is the God of War embodied..." "So? The tyranids have better things in their arsenal..." lol lol lol lol lol lol :D
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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"-The BA 'dex is DONE and complete already.

-New conversion kits similar to the ones made for the space wolves. These kits are said to be EXTRAORDINARY (I mean.. beautiful!), with a level of detail similar to that of the models in space hulk (or even better). (PS this seems quite certain, it has been confirmed by my local GW seller, who also stated some big news about BA may be revealed at the italian games day).

SOME informations about the rules

-The codex will allow the player to field a top notch assault army: assault squads will be a troop choice, with options similar to those of the new gray hunters in the SW dex: 2Xspecial weapons and no heavy weapons at all (of course). Sergents will be similar to those of the SM dex (more options: tunder hummer, LC and such).

- a psionic power called "vortex of blood", or something like that, will give the caster a CC attacks bonus equal to the number of models in base contact (or even in combat radius?! but it would be too powerful..)

-New indipendent characters.

I can't assure these rumors are true, of course. I just TRIED to translate them in english and posted them here.

Ah, date of release: march, after the tyrs."

Followed by this delicious morsel from Warseer's Harry:

"Blood Angels are only half the story. :)"
Znaci, Blood Angels i Dark Angels ponovo dobijaju zajednicki kodeks. Zanimljivo.
Ah, date of release: march, after the tyrs."
Ah, date of release: march, after the tyranids.
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ZergLord wrote:
Ah, date of release: march, after the tyranids.
This time next year.... :wink:

EDIT : igracka zajednica (tako barem deluje po belom svetu) je podeljena po pitanju ponovnog izdavanja Angels of Death codexa. Neki bi da Dark Angeli i Blood Angeli opet budu zajedno u jednoj knjizi,a drugi bi da ostanu odvojeni. Meni je iskreno svejedno. A Dark Eldar i Necron igraci su zabrinuti da njihove armije idu onim sto se zove "down the squat road". Ili ti, necemo nikad izdati novi codex, pascete u zaborav, a posle cemo izmisliti fluff da su vas zbrisali/pojeli/istrebili/itd. Ja se nadam da toga nece biti. Blood Angeli,Black Templari i Dark Angeli su skroz kompetitivne i pristojne armije, ali ljudima deluju ubogo kada se uporede sa vanilla marincima (posto ovi imaju 2 tipa veterana, copor spec karaktera, sav wargear ove galaksije, special ammunition,veci transport capacity,itd itd itd) , pa verovatno zato traze reviziju codexa. Novi space wolves su super, pristojni u pucanju,i veoma dobri u zavrtanju sije, ali nece ih nikad biti puno na tabli. (ovo im je neki pokusaj balansa :wink: ) Jos samo da Jervis Johnson opet uvati da pravi neki codex, pa da sad svi imaju sve, i slag preko + tresnjica na vrhu... :roll: :lol: Kad bi nekrone uradio...hmm... :twisted:
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ono sto je uradjeno sa DA i BA je bezobrazluk i pohlepa i lenjost GW-a.Stampati kodeks za jednu od najbitnijih legija u istoriji imperiuma u casopisu je...pa kretenski u najmanju ruku.napraviti onako nekarakteran i bljutav kodex za DA='MO MONEY.urade li kodeks za DA i BA po principu spejs vulfova,marinci ce izgledati otprilike ovako http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeCfod1XT7E .
Nekroni,Tau i Dark Eldari su trenutno tri najgora kodeksa u igri(sto se tice kompetitivnosti bilo koje vrste,prijateljske i turnirske),ali hej power armor donosi kintu tako da ono...
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Baneblade wrote: Nekroni,Tau i Dark Eldari su trenutno tri najgora kodeksa u igri(sto se tice kompetitivnosti bilo koje vrste,prijateljske i turnirske)
Nemoj lupetati.
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Nekroni,Tau i Dark Eldari su trenutno tri najgora kodeksa u igri(sto se tice kompetitivnosti bilo koje vrste,prijateljske i turnirske)
Ti izgleda nisi igrao protiv neubivljivog Perinog nekronskog lorda???
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Nekroni,Tau i Dark Eldari su trenutno tri najgora kodeksa u igri(sto se tice kompetitivnosti bilo koje vrste,prijateljske i turnirske)
u pravu je pera, ne lupetaj. Dok nekroni zaista nisu kompetitivni na nekom grand scaleu, Dark eldari su jedna od 3 najjace armije u 40k svetu, a tau gunline jeste dosta izgubio po novoj ediciji, ali se i dalje mnoge liste upisaju u gace kad vide 9 heavy suitova i ciku sa powerswordom i retinuom koji leti :-)
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Cekajte,polako,smirite se,uredu je...Zasto je jedna recenica istrgnuta iz konteksta?Da li ste culi za pojam druga tacka gledista?

Prvo igrao sam tau,koje i dalje volim do neba,ali kodeks im je krs,svako ko spamuje sutove u tau armiji je osudjen na tezak poraz,a cika sa power swordom je jedan od najgorih i najprecenjenijih karaktera u igri.

Nekroni su mi trenutna armija,i zanima me koji je recept za njihovu kompetitivnost?mozda 3 monolita,15 destroyera...

Ali sve ovo gore navedeno bledi pred cinjenicom da je ovo topik o rumorima,a ne o tome koja je armija jaca.Ono sto sam napisao je bilo u vezi sa prioritetom imperijalnih (marinackih) kodeksa u odnosu na sve ostale.

I zar nije lepse umesto nemoj da lupetas reci nisi u pravu...
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Ako pazljivo pogledate, videcete cene megaforce-ova. Koliko vidim, u odnosu na stari marinacki megaforce, ne dobijate command squad.
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u starom je jos bio i kapetan i umesto rajnoa se dobijao razorbak(mada moguce da ce ovde ubaciti delove da se sklopi razorbak).mada sada se dobiju 2 full t squada,dok se u starom dobijao jedan t.squad i jedan kombat.
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Baneblade wrote:...Prvo igrao sam tau,koje i dalje volim do neba,ali kodeks im je krs,svako ko spamuje sutove u tau armiji je osudjen na tezak poraz...
A to kazes sa koliko partija odigranim sa Tauima?
Pitaj Slavica o svim prednostima Suitova sa gomilom Shield Dronova i kreativnoj raspodeli rana.
...,a cika sa power swordom je jedan od najgorih i najprecenjenijih karaktera u igri.
Nije pitanje koliko je precenjen vec sta radi i sta ti daje u tvojoj vojsci - daje ti nesto sto dobro bije i dobro prezivljava (ako mu lepo napravis retinue) u vojsci kojoj to hronicno fali. Prema tome cika je najkorisniji Tau karakter.
Nekroni su mi trenutna armija,i zanima me koji je recept za njihovu kompetitivnost?mozda 3 monolita,15 destroyera...
1 monolit.
...Ono sto sam napisao je bilo u vezi sa prioritetom imperijalnih (marinackih) kodeksa u odnosu na sve ostale.
Marinci su im najprodavaniji - znaci marinci su im prioritet. Cista matematika.


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Nekroni su mi trenutna armija,i zanima me koji je recept za njihovu kompetitivnost?mozda 3 monolita,15 destroyera...
deset baza buba koje veoma brzo udju u kombat sa protivnickim kor trupama i izdrze dovoljno da stignu tvoji batinasi
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Zasto GW odbija da ubaci neke specijalizovanije jedinice u marinacke pakete?

Jedini marinacki paket koji sadrzi zujalicu i attack bike je Ravenwing (sto je realno neizbezno). Zato nema ni jedan jedini paket koji sadrzi LR crusader/redeemer, thunderfire cannon, techmarince, servitore, snajper skaute, vanguardu, sternguardu, kapelane, librariane, itd.

Svaki paket koji naprave UVEK ima jedan i po ili dva tac squada, pola assault squada, pola scout squada, i eventualno neki rhino.

(pod ovim mislim na pristupacnije pakete, tipa battleforce, ne na stvari tipa Battle Company ili Spear of Sicarius)
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Jako prosto - sve sto je u paketima je iskljucivo plasticno, i najtipicnije korisceno. Zujalice i bajkovi, iako su plasticni, nisu bas toliko typical, i ljudi razmisljaju da ako ti treba paket toga, uzeces ravenwing box pa ces lepo imati i ravenwing bitzeve, iliti vise para za njih :)

A zasto nema thunderfire, sterngarde, vanguarde, chaplaina, librariana? Prosto, metalni su.


Inace, stari marinacki megaforce je imao command squad, 15 taktikalaca, kapetana, 5 jumpera, 5 skauta, razorback, predator, dreku. Novi nema kapetana i command squad ali ima 20 taktikalaca. Meh, taj command sprue je veoma dobra stvar za konverzije, cudi me da su i to izbacili i teraju te da kupis bas box... 'bem ti novu politiku da upgrade sprues moras da nabavljas posebno :p

Ako to urade i sa tiranidima novi tyranid igraci koji nemaju tonu bitzeva kod sebe ce se oteliti dok nadju neke biomorphe (rending claws na primer...)
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Onda bi paketi trebali da imaju i devastator squadove i snajper skaute, koji su takodje veoma uobicajene jedinice koje mnogi koriste, pa GW opet odbija da ih ubaci. Zakljucak; GW nas zajebava. :D
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Giga wrote:Zakljucak; GW nas zajebava. :D
Ja sam ulozio oko 300E u armiju koja zbog jedne smrdljive knjige koju tvrdoglavo odbijaju da izbace mora da cuci na polici! Takodje, ranije, pre izlaska novog codexa za haotike, imao sam jednu, valjanu armiju. Sad od jednom imam dve male! :D No shit da nas zajebava!
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Dexter wrote:
Giga wrote:Zakljucak; GW nas zajebava. :D
Ja sam ulozio oko 300E u armiju koja zbog jedne smrdljive knjige koju tvrdoglavo odbijaju da izbace mora da cuci na polici! Takodje, ranije, pre izlaska novog codexa za haotike, imao sam jednu, valjanu armiju. Sad od jednom imam dve male! :D No shit da nas zajebava!
To je zato sto skupljas armiju na osnovu toga koliko je dobra / jaka, a ne zato sto ti se nesto zaista svidja ;). I ja imam nekrone i haotike i nemam apsolutno nikakvih primedbi ;).

edit: u haotike sam ulozio daleeeeeko vise od tih 300 eur :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

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Dzon Vejn wrote: To je zato sto skupljas armiju na osnovu toga koliko je dobra / jaka, a ne zato sto ti se nesto zaista svidja ;). I ja imam nekrone i haotike i nemam apsolutno nikakvih primedbi ;).
Pa naravno, zato sam i usao u ovaj hobi, on mi se uopste ne svidja nego je, znas, jak. :wink: :wink: :wink: A zasto imam Nekrona u avataru, apsolutno ne znam. :roll:
A znam i zasto nemas primedbi na Nekrone, kad ti skarabi bese rade bolje od ostatka armije? :geek:
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Dexter wrote:
Dzon Vejn wrote: To je zato sto skupljas armiju na osnovu toga koliko je dobra / jaka, a ne zato sto ti se nesto zaista svidja ;). I ja imam nekrone i haotike i nemam apsolutno nikakvih primedbi ;).
Pa naravno, zato sam i usao u ovaj hobi, on mi se uopste ne svidja nego je, znas, jak. :wink: :wink: :wink: A zasto imam Nekrona u avataru, apsolutno ne znam. :roll:
A znam i zasto nemas primedbi na Nekrone, kad ti skarabi bese rade bolje od ostatka armije? :geek:
Mislim da nije bio bas takav komentar, ali da, scarabi su odlicni (u top nekoliko izbora spadaju svakako, pod predpostavkom da se nisu menjala neka pravila za njih, posto sam po novim pravilima odigrao svega par 40k partija (konkretno ne znam da li jos uvek mozes da pomeris monolith, pa da provuces nesto kroz njega, i onda to sto si provukao da pomeris opet - a sve i da ne mozes i dalje su odlican izbor, i i dalje spadaju u top nekoliko izbora, i i dalje smatram da su imortali los izbor)).

A mislim i da znam dovoljno dobro da procenim te stvari, jer i pored toga sto sam odigrao svega par partija po novim pravilima, to me nije sprecilo da na poslednjem turniru ne izgubim ni jednu partiju ;). Ako se ne varam jednu sam samo igrao nereseno, posto sam zaboravio da pomerim unit ka objektivu u zadnjem krugu, inace bih, ako me secanje sluzi, pobedio sve 3 partije ;) (drugi dan sam bio sprecen da dodjem, sto sam unapred najavio, i bila je spremna rezerva za mene).

A sad malo povratka ne temu - kad vec pricamo o nekronima, zna li neko od ljudi koji prate rumore, sta se desava sa novom nekronskom knjigom, i eventualno modelima?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Hvala! A chapteri za CSM ako se zna?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Zasto GW odbija da ubaci neke specijalizovanije jedinice u marinacke pakete?

zato sto je ovako skuplje, a njima pare trebaju vise nego tebi.
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Hvala! A chapteri za CSM ako se zna?
I to tesko, mada su sami priznali da im je ovaj Codex njesra.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Novosti;

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Hmmm, zeleno i crveno koferce?

Crveno za Blood Angele, a zeleno za _____ Angele? :D

EDIT: Kad smo vec kod toga...

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Pogledajte dobro ovu gradjevinu. Osim sto se zove Fortress of REDEMPTION (sto nekako ide uz tu Unforgiven ideju), takodje ide i u paketu sa nekim DA spomenicima i slicnim.

Mislim da GW pokusava nesto da nam kaze. ;)
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Giga wrote:Hmmm, zeleno i crveno koferce?

Crveno za Blood Angele, a zeleno za _____ Angele? :D
Ako malo bolje zagledas sliku videces da je crveni kofer za fantasy a tamniji za 40k. Jedino ako sa druge strane kofera nisu drugaciji znakovi.
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Hocu forge world radnju u beogradu! :evil:


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Svi je hocemo... :cry:
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Novi tiranidski rumori sa BolS-a.
The latest from the mill following up on the last set of Tyranid rumors:

-Release date is January 16th (apparently pushed back due to some manner of printing snafu)

-A new Tyranid Batallion box is listed on retailer schedules for December 5th oddly enough. Contents are currently unknown.

-Carnifex will be made to be more assaulty. The shooty buildouts are said to have been dropped in overall power.

-Many FOC options for Warriors based on buildouts.

-Genestealers are going to be reduced stat wise. Moved to Elites.

-Broodlord and Lictors will be much improved.
Nije mi jasno zasto bi smanjivali statsove genestealerima. Kapiram da je to ili bullshit, ili da ce da ih ucine do jaja jeftinijim.
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Some new rumor bits from this morning:

Tyrants:
Tyrants definitely have expanded psychic powers.
Increases to stat line on tyrant. +A +I
Tyrant gets 5+ invul default
Regen upgrade option as Fex (points expensive)
Lash whip can "target" a model in unit in CC (must mean other changes to LW)

Another rumor reinforcing a change to nids "rending" reverting rending back to 4ed for nids

Another confirmation of WoN availability on all Gaunt species...inc gargoyles

sprue pics for ravs and gargoyles should have visibility on web by nov 27.

Black boxes in stores by mid-Dec.

Box art online for Rav and Garg boxes before Dec.

"Surprise" mini planned, blister pack.

biomorph/weapons Sprue available separately direct only late Jan.

gargoyle weapon options include a cc build.

Nid PS Terrain set planned for mid to late 2010 (also rumor of Eldar Webway gate terrain set, but that's another thread)

Trygon/ravener "burrow" ability, go back underground, re-DS elsewhere on table....sounds like Necron Lord teleport ability. First I've heard of this, so this will need to be vetted.

Fex "nerf" will "make sense" is not related to Nid-zilla. players will still want to have many fex's

stealer "nerf" is just rumor. stealer FOC changes are re-confirmed. BL does more to stealers than just FOC change options.

Crushing Claws = dreadnaught CCW + new nid ability.

"Nid Surge" ability. Army wide. Extra move. (Ork Waagh? Name is not "nid surge")

Pravane like psychic ability...move enemy unit

Possession ability...control enemy unit

Shielding ability...protect unit

As always, my contacts have decent exposure to this, but are not authorities. So things change during the development, or conversations related to other products get confused, but in general more hits than misses. Enjoy.
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Crushing Claws = dreadnaught CCW + new nid ability.
U cemu je poenta ovoga kada Carnifexi po defaultu imaju S9 i ignorisu armor?

Tyrantima omoguciti takav crushing claws je takodje besmisleno (imati dva HQ-a koji napadaju na I6, imaju snagu 10, gomilu napada, ignorisu armor, WS6, 5++ save, ne mozes da ih udaris posto imaju gardu, itd. bi bio totalan herohammer :lol: ).
"Nid Surge" ability. Army wide. Extra move. (Ork Waagh? Name is not "nid surge")

Pravane like psychic ability...move enemy unit

Possession ability...control enemy unit
Nadam se da je ovo wishlisting, posto niti ide uz fluff tyranida, niti mi se svidja da umesto da smisle nesto originalno oni rade updejtovane verzije tudjih sposobnosti.
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Todays Rumors

These rumors are from early on. So subject to all standard rumor caveats. I'm removing those we already have, and those we know to be false.


To support more Fex' in the army an overall reduction in stats should take place, however, increases elsewhere compensate (not sure if they mean in weapons or in the statline)

Crushing Claws are huge "can openers"...+1A, double s (10Max), ignore as, add d6 pen, d3 "wounds"/"vehicle hits" (too good to be true, IMO)

Talons +1A, "pinning"?

Envenomed claws, upgrade to CC symbiotes, wound on 3+

Rending Claws, autowound on 6 on hit, more expensive

Spinefists, fire and run (is this the rumor "subconcious weapon" we heard before?)

Barbed Strangler, large blast, entangle...unit next move as difficult terrain (Again, I thought this was a rumor elsewhere, too)

Bone sword, pretty much the same

Lashwhip, remove X attacks from attacking unit (allocate as wounds), can target individual, but then only affects single model. no min 1A. no longer base contact constrained. (a lot here and it seems complex, so I highly doubt all (or any) this is true, but I have no way to separate wheat from chaff)

Surprise Assault. (I'm not sure where this fits, if its an ability, a psychic thing, a army rule, a deployment rule, etc. If I were guessing I'd think it's lictor or Scuttlers related.) Unit enters play from reserve anywhere on table. must be 12" from enemy. Cannot assault the turn it enters play. Allowed normal DS "run"

Enjoy boys....

Crushing Claws = dreadnaught CCW + new nid ability.

U cemu je poenta ovoga kada Carnifexi po defaultu imaju S9 i ignorisu armor?
Nece valjda da carnifexu smanje Str na 6? 8O :(
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it's very like that the following data was gain from testing the new codex and wouldn't be included in final edition.

source BoLS

subconcious weapon count as a pair of pistols, and consequently the user will gain an extra Attack for having 2 close combat weapons

Bone Sword:
The Tyranid must reroll failed rolls to hit in close combat, even against vehicles that do not have a weapon skill.

PSYCHIC POWERS
Catalyst:
This power may be used at the beginning of any phase in your turn or your opponents!. Choose a friendly brood and take a psychic test. If the test is passed and the target brood is within 18”, then the target gains the benefit of the counter-attack universal special rule until the end of your opponent's turn.

Mind Lance:
Mind Lance is a Psychic Shooting Attack with the following profile:
Range 18”, S9, AP 2, lance

Psychic Scream:
This power replaces shooting, but is not a psychic shooting attack. Psychic scream is used after the brood!s other shooting, but before another brood shoots. All enemy units within 12” must take a pinning test. The enemy must take a pinning test for each psychic scream used.

Warp Blast:
Warp Blast is a Psychic Shooting Attack with the following profile:
Range 24”, S5, AP 3, 3” blast
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Ovaj mind lance mi je sjajna ideja. Jak je do jaja (probija land raider na 4+), a opet moguce ga je kontrirati svime sto inace kontrira psychic powere (psychic hoodovi, wolfovski oni staffovi itd.).

To je po meni dobar nacin da se uradi tiranidima ranged anti-tank, to jest da bude jak, ali opet da covek ne moze da se bas osloni na njega. Na taj nacin tiranidi i dalje ostaju baje kada treba na blizinu da se lome vozila, a opet nisu bas ni bespomocni na daljinu.
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Giga wrote:Ovaj mind lance mi je sjajna ideja. Jak je do jaja (probija land raider na 4+), a opet moguce ga je kontrirati svime sto inace kontrira psychic powere (psychic hoodovi, wolfovski oni staffovi itd.).
Sto efikasno imaju samo marinci i eldari. A ostale rase da si nabiju stap u guyu i umru od str 9 lancea? :-).
Meni deluje opasnije psyhic scream, narocito ako se bue mogao spammovati...
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Ne znam bas, stari je bio opasniji sa spustanjem Ld-a kumulativno (sto veoma boli za combat resolution). Ovaj, kao i svi ostali psycic poweri koji traze morale/pinning, ce jednostavno biti ignorisani od strane fearless jedinica. Meh.

A lance strike je mnogo zao, previse zao. Ok, i dalje ce pogadjati na 4+ skoro sigurno (heh, zoantrope da dobiju bs4, nema sanse :D), ali sada umesto snage 10 ap2, ima snagu 9 ap2 lance. Say what now? probijamo land raider na 3? ali zato monolit na 5? bolje da ga nisu dirali, stari str10 ap2 je bio sasvim u redu, pogotovo sto u vecini slucajeva nije radio (i nije mogao tyrant sa bs4 da ga koristi, dok za ovo nista ne pise...)
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Pendargon wrote:
Giga wrote:Ovaj mind lance mi je sjajna ideja. Jak je do jaja (probija land raider na 4+), a opet moguce ga je kontrirati svime sto inace kontrira psychic powere (psychic hoodovi, wolfovski oni staffovi itd.).
Sto efikasno imaju samo marinci i eldari. A ostale rase da si nabiju stap u guyu i umru od str 9 lancea? :-).
Meni deluje opasnije psyhic scream, narocito ako se bue mogao spammovati...
Pa pazi, svi noviji codexi dobijaju mocne psychic powere (pogledaj samo wolfove i IG-ovski psyker chorus), i upravo zbog toga svi noviji codexi imaju neku odbranu od psychic powera.

To jest, Vukovi imaju Njala i runepriestove, vanilla ima psychic hoodove, IG imaju cistu masovnost (a pritom imaju pristup inkvizitorima/gray knightovima sa psychic hoodovima), a orkovi imaju masovnost i mob rule (+ su im vozila napravljena od papira, pa ih je bas briga za stvari kao sto je mind lance).

Tiranidi takodje vec imaju foru da kada radis psychic testove valjda bacas 3 kocke i biras dve najvece, sto povecava sansu da ces da padnes doticni test. Nesto mi govori da ce i to da se boostuje u ovom njihovom predstojecem codexu.
Say what now? probijamo land raider na 3? ali zato monolit na 5?
Ne probijate, GLANCUJETE. Probijate tek na 4+ i 6. Vazno je! :mrgreen:

U sustini, smatram da tiranidima i treba to da bi mogli da se uhvate u kostac sa svim onim silnim leman russevima, land raiderima, battlewagonima itd. koji su ovih dana veoma popularni. Protiv 99% ostalih vozila, to ce biti isto sto i lascannon sa manjim dometom, te ce biti svejedno da li je lance ili nije.
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Latest Tyranid scrapings from Warseer's TheDude and StickMonkey:

2nd Trygon Variant: Mawloc
"The Mawloc is a Trygon variant with a distending mouth (like the Red Terror) and lots of funny spines all over it."

Hive Guard
"... the Hive Guard look awesome, surely a model everyone will want to have, but imo is also going to be a new "Zoa" in terms of its tippy-ness. It's a tall bit of metal. Those others who have seen can confirm.For me, i'm thinking weighted bases may be in my future."

Carnifex Stats
To support more Fex' in the army an overall reduction in stats should take place, however, increases elsewhere compensate (not sure if they mean in weapons or in the statline)

Biomorphs and Weapons
Crushing Claws are huge "can openers"...+1A, double s (10Max), ignore as, add d6 pen, d3 "wounds"/"vehicle hits" (too good to be true, IMO). The rumors around CC are running rampant. There is no doubt their effectiveness will be improved in the new codex. Models equipped will get a strength boon and the additional glance or wound on hit, so you can say these will be can-openers. I also heard the rumor that the nid ability that has been mentioned prior with CC is they can latch onto vehicles and prevent movement away from combat at the expense of their bonus attacks.

Talons +1A, "pinning"?

Envenomed claws, upgrade to CC symbiotes, wound on 3+

Rending Claws, autowound on 6 on hit, more expensive

Spinefists, fire and run (is this the rumor "subconcious weapon" we heard before?)

Barbed Strangler, large blast, entangle...unit next move as difficult terrain (Again, I thought this was a rumor elsewhere, too)

Bone sword, pretty much the same

Lashwhip, remove X attacks from attacking unit (allocate as wounds), can target individual, but then only affects single model. no min 1A. no longer base contact constrained. (a lot here and it seems complex, so I highly doubt all (or any) this is true, but I have no way to separate wheat from chaff)

Surprise Assault. (I'm not sure where this fits, if its an ability, a psychic thing, a army rule, a deployment rule, etc. If I were guessing I'd think it's lictor or Scuttlers related.) Unit enters play from reserve anywhere on table. must be 12" from enemy. Cannot assault the turn it enters play. Allowed normal DS "run"

Models
Ravenors (plastic) are 3 models per sprue. @ $29
Gargoyles (plastic) are 10 per box, and armed with fleshborers as the only weapons. @$44

Edit:
Evo jos

- the ravener sprue(s?) are pretty jammed, in a good way, many (every?) option covered, but the cream is not the bonus ripper, but the "emergence" base, designed for a ravener that is bursting out the ground

- the hive guard look a lot like the tyrant guard, but standing on the two hind legs, leaping forward (thus making them sooo tippy). The ranged weapon they are carrying (a new one, which didn't exist in the last 2 codices (saying it this way because maybe it's the resurrection of one of the lost 2nd ed range weapons)) was described as looking cool and barbed. Some people mentioned worries that the overall model looks a bit small.

- The picture of the red Trygon, who also has a green, extending mouth, is NOT the Mawloc, just to be clear
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U sustini, smatram da tiranidima i treba to da bi mogli da se uhvate u kostac sa svim onim silnim leman russevima, land raiderima, battlewagonima itd. koji su ovih dana veoma popularni. Protiv 99% ostalih vozila, to ce biti isto sto i lascannon sa manjim dometom, te ce biti svejedno da li je lance ili nije.
jel nemaju dovoljno modela sa monstruous creature pravilom pa ce im biti problem da probiju nesto sa, naprimer, 4,5 napada snage 6+2d6?
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