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Pa gde su Firefly WC shermani
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Skobra wrote:Ovo je gadna lista - jedino nisam siguran za valjanost Armoured Car Platoona mada pretpostavljam da je to iskoriscavanje one sice poena radi dopune do 6 platuna
Aha ... gadna ;)

Armoured Car je tu da dopuni do 6 platoona :) to si lepo primetio, i takodje sa 2 platoona koji su RECCE ambusheri ce se namuciti u pokusajima da iznenade Shermane. Takodje ti iste Recce platooni omogucavaju da 2 platoona posle deploymenta PROMENE mesto! i time prenesu akciju sa jednog na drugo krilo!!! Zamisli recimo da su prva 2 platoona koja postavljas RECCE i da ih postavih na levom krilo, tvoj protivnik to isprati a ti onda treci platoon i dalje postavljas na desno krilo i POSLE deploymenta povuces i ta dva platoona na desno krilo i napravis disbalance :).

M10 je tu da sa boka pocasti neku nemacku macu, a Full Britanska baterija sa 8 topova koja moze pucati kao 4 + 4 ili 8 zajedno ... sto bi reko Slovic ... "jede mame" :mrgreen:

Uh, mozda cak i ja ovo pazarim :)
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Mada nije ni tako jeftina u kesu, kod Rika oko 170-175 e.

Sa druge strane lepa osnova za bilo kakovo prosirivanje armije. Mislim treba ti samo box pesadije i eto pesadijske cete, 2 kutije transporta i eto mehanizovane cete.

Sherman WC ne treba zbog M10, pas sam tupac. :roll:
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Hvala vam i na tim dodatnim savetima!
Naravno, tako nesto sam i pomislio da pravim, mada artiljerija zahteva vise cevki da bi iskoristila sve prednosti, a i malko je skupa (u inflatornim dinarima!)...U svakom slucaju, pomislio sam i na izvidjacke vodove, jer mi se javlja da bi Nemac (a, bar, 95% partija cu igrati protiv njih) mogao da proba baterijicu 88'ica u zasedi, i tako fino pocisti "Sermane", k'o bombone! :D
Zelim da napravim osnovnu tenkovsku cetu, s tim da, kasnije, dodajem support jedinice po zelji i u zavisnosti od zadatka...S tim u vezi Zuborova lista (malko modifikovana po mom ukusu) je najbliza onome sto sam zamislio. Naravno, provericu jos malo, cim pogledam nekoliko partija i vidim kako neke stvari idu u praksi....
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Minja jesil to ti?
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Naravno da jeste, zar ne vidis :D

A i spomenuo te je gore u tekstu ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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žubor wrote:

Code: Select all

HQ
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Armoured Platoon 
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Armoured Platoon 
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Recce Patrol 
3 x 'Honey' Stuart III

Anti-tank Platoon
4 x M10C 17pdr

Full Field Battery, Royal Artillery

Armoured Car Platoon
2 x Damiler I
1 x Daimler Dingo
Ukoliko bih zelelo da sto bolje iskoristim MW armiju u LW, igrao bih nesto ovako ...
A kolko je ovo u poenima?
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Jeste, Slovicu, ja sam! Mislim da tu negde i pise "Minja"! :D Dakle, nadam se da cemo se videti u cetvrtak, kod Ricka, jer bih zeleo da malko gledam kako se odvijaju bitke, i kako u praksi izgledaju stvari o kojima sam razmisljao citajuci pravila....
Jeste, Zuborova lista je, verovatno, preko 2000 poena, ali dobro...kako uzimam neku varijaciju toga, to cu moci da iskombinujem svoju tenkovsku ceticu! 8)
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:
žubor wrote:

Code: Select all

HQ
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Armoured Platoon 
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Armoured Platoon 
3 x Sherman I, II, III or V

Recce Patrol 
3 x 'Honey' Stuart III

Anti-tank Platoon
4 x M10C 17pdr

Full Field Battery, Royal Artillery

Armoured Car Platoon
2 x Damiler I
1 x Daimler Dingo
Ukoliko bih zelelo da sto bolje iskoristim MW armiju u LW, igrao bih nesto ovako ...
A kolko je ovo u poenima?
1500 on the spot! ... ali po Festung Europe :(
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Da, jer su, tamo, "Sermani" dosta jeftiniji nego u MW varijanti! Ma, nema veze...samo sam hteo da proverim neka svoja razmisljanja sa iskusnijim igracima...
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jel ovo sigurno da recce platuni mogu da promene deployment pre prvog kruga ili mislis na recce movement?
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Skobra wrote:jel ovo sigurno da recce platuni mogu da promene deployment pre prvog kruga ili mislis na recce movement?
naravno recce movement ...
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Postavicu vam jedno, moze biti, glupo pitanjce, ali eto...Da li je moguce naruciti nesto od Ricka (razdraganog zbog dobijanja para!) nesto od figurica i ovaj put, ili je porudzbina "zatvorena"?
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Porudzbina je zatvorena jer je vec krenula ka nama.... trebale su figure da budu tu ovaj vikend, ali nesto oko prevoza se promenilo, pa je koliko se secam u utorak roba ovde.

Ipak ces morati da sacekas sledecu pordzbinu ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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ja sumnjam da ce to biti ovaj utorak... pre onaj sledeci... a nista ne gubis ako bacis mail Riku i raspitas se moze li
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Hvala, pitacu ga, mada i ja mislim da je kasno! :(
Nema veze...
Dvoumim se izmedju tenkovske i pesadijske cete (sa puno tenkova!)...Sta bi vise od toga trebalo nasoj SHAEF zajednickoj saveznickoj komandi?
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Ja osim ona 3 shermana nemam ni jedan tenk, i tako ce verovatno i ostati jos neko vreme (izuzev mozda jednog firefly-ja, koji mi treba za late war). Sledece uzimam avione, i verovatno neki AA.

Tako da ja u narednih recimo 6 meseci necu imati nikakve tenkovske sposobnosti ;)

Tako da bilo koje tenkove da uzmes neces pogresiti ;)

Moje licno misljenje je da ako vec vodis tenkove, da ces badava potrositi neke poene na pesadiju.... te neces biti dobar ni u jednom ni u drugom. Mada opet sve zavisi sta i kako jelte ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Kao neko ko vec 100. partiju igra protiv nekih pesadinaca; dal su ruski, britanski ili americki, sve jedno; porucujem ti sledece:

MOLIM TE KUPI TENKOVE, MOLIM TE :mrgreen:
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Pa vidi...
jedna zamisao mi je pesadijska ceta (1.Armija, neka od London Brigades)
--- cetni HG
--- 3 redukovana platoon-a, ali sa PIAT-om i lakim minobacacem
--- Heavy mortar platoon (4 cevke)
--- 2 tenkovska platoon-a (6x Churchill III)
--- 1 baterija 25pd
--- Mine Flail Platoon (2 Matilda Scorpionsa) ili Limited Air Support
Hurricane II avioni

tenkovska ceta (1 Armija, 26.Brigada, 17/21 Lancers)
--- Major General Pip Roberts sa Grantom
--- cetni HQ (3 Granta)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xValentine III)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xCrusaider III)
--- 2 baterije 25pd
--- 1 Motor platoon (redukovani ali sa PIAT-om i lakim minobacacem) ili
Limited Air Support Hurricane II avioni

Nadam se da shvatas moju veliku dilemu!
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Mislim da ti ta kombinacija sa tenkovima nije validna.... koji company si izabrao, i koju od podopcija (a moze samo iz knjige afrika, jer samo tu ima pip roberts)?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Bolje druga opcija.
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Jeste validna - veruj mi! Iz knjige Afrika, pogledaj opciju za jedinice iz 1.Armije (tamo ih zovu Death or Glory Squadron), negde na kraju dela o Britancima! Imas ogranicenja u vidu tipa tenkova i nekih drugih stvari, ali mozes da uzmes 1950 poena kao 1500. Takodje, smanjis i utreniranost svojih ljudi sa Veteran na Trained, ali kako su SVI tenkovi, i inace, trained...jasno ti je! :D
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Minja wrote: tenkovska ceta (1 Armija, 26.Brigada, 17/21 Lancers)
--- Major General Pip Roberts sa Grantom
--- cetni HQ (3 Granta)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xValentine III)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xCrusaider III)
--- 2 baterije 25pd
--- 1 Motor platoon (redukovani ali sa PIAT-om i lakim minobacacem) ili
Limited Air Support Hurricane II avioni

Nadam se da shvatas moju veliku dilemu!
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General Pip ne moze da se prikljuci Death or Glory Squadron-u. U njegovom opisu pise da moze da se prikljuci Armoured Squadronu. Iako su i Death or Glory i Armoured squadron TENK-ovse cete ... oni NISU isti, tj Deth or GLory NIJE Armoured Squadron. Armoured Squadron se nalazi na strani 105 Afrike. Army builder podrzava moje vidjenje stvari :) a uvek mozemo pitati na FoW forumu za potvrdu ...
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Pa, dobro...nije da mi je Roberts neophodan, ali bih, ipak, voleo da ga imam u ceti, ako mogu...Pitaj, molim te, na FOW forumu. Vidim da ti imas iskustva s tim! Ja sam posao za tim da je on Independent lik, i da kao takav da moze da se prikljuci SVAKOJ tenkovskoj ceti! Narocito, sto je i sam komandovao jedinicama u Tunisu (vidi njegov fluff)!
Voleo bih to da znam, da ne igram pogresno, ali mogu i bez njega...
Inace, vidim da SVI navijaju da igram tu tenkovsku cetu! 8) Jel' stvarno toliko "dogorelo do nokata" saveznicima? Ili Nemci imaju neku zvrckicu protiv tenkova, pa jedva cekaju da "upotrebe to" na nekom protivniku sa puno tenkova? :D
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Pip ti je prakticno neophodan, jer bez njega mozes imati samo 1 support za svaki tenkovski core choice koji uzmes.... Sto nije toliko strasno u partijama DO 1500 poena, ali cim igras preko toga, prakticno je nemoguce sastaviti neku normalnu listu.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Da. ali ako pogledas u moju listu videces da imam 4 tenkovska platoona, sto je i vise nego dovoljno, jer nemam vise od 4 support platoona! Dakle, nije mi, bas, neophodan, ali bih voleo da ga imam, ako je to moguce. 8)
Naravno, uvek mi ostaje i druga mogucnost, da igram onu pesadijsku cetu ojacanu tenkovima i artiljerijom...
Videcu, kakvi su drugi "Nemci", pored Zubora (koji, prakticno, moze da igra bilo sta), pa cu odluciti nakon toga...
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Goran
HQ
Panzer III N
Panzer III M
Panzer platoon1
3x Panzer III N
Panzer platoon 2
3x Panzer III J (late)
3x SdKfz 7/1
Panzergrenadier platoon
4x 10.5 cm leFH18

Kum
Panzergrenadier platoon
Panzergrenadier platoon
HMG platoon
5x Pnazer III G
2x Marder III M
3x 15cm NW41
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4x 8cm GW34 mortar
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Minja wrote:Pa, dobro...nije da mi je Roberts neophodan, ali bih, ipak, voleo da ga imam u ceti, ako mogu...Pitaj, molim te, na FOW forumu. Vidim da ti imas iskustva s tim! Ja sam posao za tim da je on Independent lik, i da kao takav da moze da se prikljuci SVAKOJ tenkovskoj ceti! Narocito, sto je i sam komandovao jedinicama u Tunisu (vidi njegov fluff)!
Voleo bih to da znam, da ne igram pogresno, ali mogu i bez njega...
Inace, vidim da SVI navijaju da igram tu tenkovsku cetu! 8) Jel' stvarno toliko "dogorelo do nokata" saveznicima? Ili Nemci imaju neku zvrckicu protiv tenkova, pa jedva cekaju da "upotrebe to" na nekom protivniku sa puno tenkova? :D
Pitao sam za Pip-a ... mada on ti donosi samo (nije da je malo) re roll company morala ...

EDIT: Sada sam jos jednom procitao njegova pravila ... hmmm ... trenutno naginjem misljenju da ipak MOZE da se pridruzi i Death of Glory Squadron-u, jer u pravilima pise ANY armoured Squadron (sto Death or Glory jeste) i takodje pise u fluff-u da je bio Co 26th Armoured brigade (Death or Glory)

No sto se tice nokata :mrgreen:

Meni je, kao sto sam vec rekao monotono, jer UVEK igram protiv pesadije. A fakt imam i trista svasta u mom antitenkovskom arsenalu pa bih ga drage volje upotrebio :mrgreen:.

Elem da se vratimo na tvoju Army listu. ukoliko Pip ne moze (ma cak iako moze ;)) ja bih je malo izmenio jer mislim da ti fale 2 stvari, a imas jednu u visku.

Visak je po meni AVION, jer ne zaboravi da bi Avijacija nesto uradila tvoj uniti moraju biti bar 16" udaljeni od mesta dogadjanja, a tenkovi ne zele da preterano cekaju ...

A fale ti ...

Recce, kako bi oterao ambushere sto dalje od tvojih tenkova
SPAA, tj Anti Aircraft na tockovima

Tj ja bih posle HQ i 4 x 3 tenka i baterije 25-ica (dotle je sve isto kao u tvojoj listi dodao:

Light AA Platoon 6 x Bofors, osim sto teraju avione seju smrt i po pesadiji a to fali tvojim tenkovima jer ipak imaju samo po JEDAN MG.
Armoured Car Patrol 3 x Daimler Mk I (recce)
Scout Platoon 3 x UC sa dodatnim 0.5" MG
Oba platoona su RECCE i oba seju smrt po pesadiji.

Jedino sto si tanak na ANTI TENK polju, jer osim artiljerije nista drugo ne moze da povredi Tigra ili Pantera (od spreda) .... Mada sa 4 platoona + HQ-om tenkova svakako mozes izvuci po neki SIDE shoot.

Eto toliko od mene. Cim neko odgovori na FoW forumu postujem ovde odgovor i link.

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tenkovska ceta (1 Armija, 26.Brigada, 17/21 Lancers)
--- Major General Pip Roberts sa Grantom
--- cetni HQ (3 Granta)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xValentine III)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xCrusaider III)

--- 2 baterije 25pd
--- 1 Motor platoon (redukovani ali sa PIAT-om i lakim minobacacem) ili
Limited Air Support Hurricane II avioni
Da. ali ako pogledas u moju listu videces da imam 4 tenkovska platoona
Ono sto sam zacrveneo ti se racuna kao tenkovski platun. Istina, i dalje pratis pravila, jer imas samo 25 pdr i motor platun kao support (znaci 2-2). Kao sto je i Zubor primetio, meni tu fali AA (recce ne znam kako tacno rade, pa ne mogu da pricam), i isto mislim da su avioni visak (za tenkovsku cetu.... za pesadijsku su super). Ako bi mogao da uglavis jos i anti-tenk platun (sa barem 6 pdr - taj je weapon a ne support.... barem kod pesadije ;) ), to bi bilo ekstra.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:
tenkovska ceta (1 Armija, 26.Brigada, 17/21 Lancers)
--- Major General Pip Roberts sa Grantom
--- cetni HQ (3 Granta)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xValentine III)
--- 2 oklopna platoona (6xCrusaider III)

--- 2 baterije 25pd
--- 1 Motor platoon (redukovani ali sa PIAT-om i lakim minobacacem) ili
Limited Air Support Hurricane II avioni
Da. ali ako pogledas u moju listu videces da imam 4 tenkovska platoona
Ono sto sam zacrveneo ti se racuna kao tenkovski platun. Istina, i dalje pratis pravila, jer imas samo 25 pdr i motor platun kao support (znaci 2-2). Kao sto je i Zubor primetio, meni tu fali AA (recce ne znam kako tacno rade, pa ne mogu da pricam), i isto mislim da su avioni visak (za tenkovsku cetu.... za pesadijsku su super). Ako bi mogao da uglavis jos i anti-tenk platun (sa barem 6 pdr - taj je weapon a ne support.... barem kod pesadije ;) ), to bi bilo ekstra.
u ovoj list Minja ima 4 combat platoona, tako da mu Pipin ne treba za support choice-ove ... znaci nije 2-2 vec 4:2 i moze imati jos 2 support platoona cak i bez Pipina. Sa pipinom ih moze imati 8!
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Ah.... nisam video sta pise ispred: 2 puta po 2..... totalno sam prevideo one dvojke ispred...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Da, da, prijatelju, to su 4 tenkovska platoona, tako da mogu da imam i 4 support...ali Zubor je u pravu! Verovatno sam u zanosu preterao sa artiljerijom, a na racun ostalih jedinica! Sta cu, znas kakvi su Briti kad je podrska u pitanju? :D
Iskreno, muce me dve stvari - jedno je sto britanski tenkovi imaju samo AP municiju (osim Grantova), pa sam to pokusao da nadoknadim pojacanom artiljerijom, ali onda imam taj nezgodni manjak u izvidjacima (anti-ambush) i brzim jedinicama... :(
Druga stvar je kvalitet tih izvidjaca...oklopni automobili pate jednako od iste AP-only municije, dok su transporteri podlozni unistavanju i od strane mitraljeza (takozvani pak-papir oklop!) :roll:
Dakle, kako god se okrenem - dupe mi je pozadi! 8)
Avione bih ostavio, ili uzeo bar kao pojacanje cete do 1750 poena (nekako!) jer su mi simpaticni...ali dobro...
Sve u svemu, s ceznjom gledam u te jenkijevske tenkove i njihovu municiju za sve prigode... :P
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Minja wrote:ali Zubor je u pravu! Verovatno sam u zanosu preterao sa artiljerijom,
ne ne prijatelju ja mislim da ti TREBA artiljerija koji su i stavio u army listu jer ona, osim sto moze da pinuje, moze da unisti i nemacke velike mace ...
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bas mi se dopada ovaj odgovor, narocito deo koji sam boldovao ...
I will answer a slightly different question... Pip Roberts became Brigadier of the 26th Armoured Brigade, comprising 16th/5th Lancers, 17th21st Lancers, 2nd Lothian and Borders Horse and 10 Bn Rifle Brigade, on 13 March 1943, at about the same time as the armoured regiments re-equiped with Shermans.

Reading Afrika, I would say no. the 'Armoured Squadron' and the 'Death or Glory Squadron' are different types of unit. If it said 'any Tank Company' then he could. The 'Any' is included as he can joint either a Light or Heavy Armoured Squadron. However, I would personally tend towards the 'if you pay the points have him' approach .
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Pazi odgovor je ipak bolji nego GWovi odgovori... barem je rekao:
personally
:lol:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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:D :D :D , bas mu je super odgovor! Mozda jeste, mozda nije...(mislim da ima jedan narodnjak s tom temom...) :roll: Dakle, sada nam je jasno da nam nista nije jasno... 8) Videcu. Jos se mislim oko raznih stvari, ali hvala vam na pomoci, u svakom slucaju.
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Reading Afrika, I would say no. the 'Armoured Squadron' and the 'Death or Glory Squadron' are different types of unit. If it said 'any Tank Company' then he could.
personally
if you pay the points have him
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Jel'te, prijatelji, a mogu li ja malko da promenim svoju afilijaciju ka americkom oklopu?! A? Jel' bi to bilo OK za nasu malu scenu? Mislim, oni imaju lek za sve ono sto me "zulja" kod Engleza! :D A, Bog'me, ni Rik ne da popust sto bih igrao "for King & Country"! :D
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Minja wrote:Jel'te, prijatelji, a mogu li ja malko da promenim svoju afilijaciju ka americkom oklopu?! A? Jel' bi to bilo OK za nasu malu scenu? Mislim, oni imaju lek za sve ono sto me "zulja" kod Engleza! :D A, Bog'me, ni Rik ne da popust sto bih igrao "for King & Country"! :D
Neeeeeeeee...
Zaštoooooooooooooooooooo?????
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Pa, najvise zbog gore opisanih razloga! Dakle, svi (originalno) engleski tenkovi imaju samo AP municiju, pa bih bio, gotovo, nemocan protiv dobro ukopane pesadije. Dalje, sve tenkovske snage padaju u iskustvu, u odnosu na pesadiju (Trained umesto Veteran), a kako bih, ipak, uzeo oklopnu cetu to bih bio na cistom minusu. Ako uzmem heavy (americke) tenkove, onda mi je bolje da uzmem i americku cetu! :D I jos dalje...da bih iskoristio specijalu za britanske topove, morao bih da uzmem 8 cevi (skupo u poenima), pa ne bi bilo mnogo mesta za izvidjace i ostale pratece stvari...AA im je nemotorizovan, pa bi se vukao "kao creva" za ostatkom...i tako dalje...
Dakle, britanske cete su pravljene tako da koriste sve prednosti britanske vojske ako su PESADIJSKE, a mislio sam da ne zelite jos jednog igraca sa pesadijom...
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