Englezi v1.1

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2 cevke istina ne rade nista, ali UK mogu da udruze cevke, a tada je potrebno da ih bude 6 ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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2 cevke mogu da dime... a one 4 da tuku... ili da se udruze pa da tuku sa 6 cevki.
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Nesto mi se ne slaze racunica, jer kod mene u knjizi stoji da 4 cevke kostaju 270, a dve 155 poena!?!
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Minja wrote:Nesto mi se ne slaze racunica, jer kod mene u knjizi stoji da 4 cevke kostaju 270, a dve 155 poena!?!
Afrika update:

Page 127: Royal Horse Artillery Battery
Royal Horse Artillery Batteries are rated as Fearless Veteran.
A Battery with four Gun Troops costs 465 points, one with two
Gun Troops costs 270 points, while a single Gun Troop costs
165 points.

Page 127: Field Battery, Royal Artillery
A Battery with four Gun Troops costs 415 points, one with two
Gun Troops costs 240 points, while a single Gun Troop costs
145 points.
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Ah, sad mi je jasno...Nisam se setio da pogledam u Afrika update...
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bump :!:

Ovde je bila diskusija o raznim UK listama, pa cisto za (potencijalno) nove igrace, da vide ;).

Bilo bi ekstra da uradimo za svaku armiju neki discussion thread, i jos jedan thread kao sto je (pijani) Slovic otvorio, i da se to sve stavi kao sticky... mada onda bi imali 10+ sticky tema :?

edit: sve to pod predpostavkom da potencijalno novi igraci postoje. Mislim da bi ozbiljno trebalo da se poradi na "reklamiranju" FoW-a. Manje prazne diskusije, manje pametovanja ciji je duzi, vise slika lepih terena, figura i custom postolja. Vise battle reportova sa slikama (ali pravim, lepim, ne onim gde Pedja iscrta u paintu bitku (sto je i dalje bolje ni od cega)).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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a jeli ...
ti si cekao da se ja povucem pa da se onda aktiviras?
jel to iz straha? ili?
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Pa nisam se ja nista posebno aktivirao... odigrao sam 1-2 FoW u poslednjih XYZ meseci... delom zato sto nema bas puno ljudi.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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pa pre nisi ni pisao ...
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Pa nisam se ja nista posebno aktivirao... odigrao sam 1-2 FoW u poslednjih XYZ meseci... delom zato sto nema bas puno ljudi.
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Nemo molim te da zaboravis velikog ljubitelja rasnih, zaobljenih arijevki i bavarskog piva :mrgreen:
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Au sunce ti poljubim!
Kako to da mi se dogodi... :oops:
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To se dobodilo zato sto su te divizije u Francuskoj u okolini grada svetlosti. Gde njihov komandir vodi miran i donekle raskalasni zivot. Doduse, samo je pitanje vremena kada ce napraviti gresku koja ce dopreti do usiju vrhovne komande i samim tim sebi potpisati ekspresnu kartu u jednom pravcu za istocni front. Tamo ce dobiti priliku da umre kao heroj za Faterhland i na taj nacin okaja svoje grehe i poraste u Firerovim ocima zasluzivsi drzavnu sahranu.

Ah, Pariz u prolece 1943, ljubav je vazduhu a crna berza prosto cveta. Rat je tako daleko a zivot pun malih zadovoljstava.
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Sluzi tome da hita ka cilju, i trosi tvoje dragocene metke dok te avijacija zasipa... za 100 poena, vise su nego odlicni.

Transport platoon je tu samo da bi doveo broj platoona na 8 (pa kad se podeli sa 2, 4 platuna su mi na tabli)
hm mislio sam da se za to ne racuna..... sta za 15 poena dobijes ceo vod....
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Da, ne racuna se. Imali smo ovu raspravu ranije.

Transport platun se mora pre deplojmenta atacovati nekom platuni i samim tim zasebno to nije vec je deo tog platuna.
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Postoji i tema: "englezi", mislim da je unutar nje ovo raspravljeno.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo sastavljam opet neke liste, pa sam dosao do dileme da li je bolje:

a) 4x 20mm portee AA
b) 3x 40mm bofor AA

bofori imaju 4 pucanja manje u tom slucaju, ali veci AT (ako pucas po necemu sto nisu avioni) i sto je mnogo bitnije bolji FP i veci domet. Jedina mi je dilema sto ne znam kako se tretiraju 20mm portee - kao gun timovi, infantry timovi ili kao vozila (u kom slucaju imaju da dodaju d6 na armor)?

ninja edit: Chemprese, meni AB prikazuje za 25 pdr da je heavy a ne immobile, a imam i quad & limber?

edit: nova lista je:

HQ - 30 poena

HERO - Upham 50 poena

COMBAT:
Rifle sa 3 sekcije + sticky bombs + AT - 205
Rifle sa 3 sekcije + sticky bombs + light mortar - 195

WEAPON:
full AT - 195 poena

SUPPORT:
Full artillery - 415 poena
Full mine flail sa skinutim 2 pdr - 100 poena (ako ne laze AB... prvi i treci me kostaju 35 poena, a drugi 30?)
Full tenk platoon matildi II (bez CS)

+
ili 4x 20mm portee
ili 3x 40mm bofor

total = 1500 poena

Moze se eventualno uzeti i valentin umesto matildi, pa da se popune skroz rifle platuni
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Portee: to znači da izvorno dolazi na kamiončiću ali da ako želiš može da se skine sa istog.
Dok je na vozilu tretira se kao vozilo i ima save 5+. Pošto nema nikakvu karakteristiku oklopa (-) to znači da ne bacaju D6 kada ih neko gađa već samo prolaze save.
Kada siđu sa vozila računaju se kao Gun Team i imaju save od 5+. Takođe ppošto su AA topovi ne mogu da budu Concealed kada su ukopani.
Što se tiče 25pdr, tačno oni su Heavy Gun Team.
Samim tim mogu da se kreću 2" na ruke a kamiončiće dobijaš ako iz nekog samo tebi znanog razloga poželiš da ih mrdaš negde malo dalje.
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Jel se kad je portee racunaju kao passengeri? Mislim jel 5+ save za vozilo pa ako ne prodje vozilo je unisteno a passengeri bacaju 5+ save da prezive? Nesto mi se cini daje to tako - mislim da je isti slucaj sa tachankama?
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ziveo sam u zabludi da su 25pdr nepokretni! hvala sto mi otvoriste oci! :D
a kapiram da portee nemaju putnicki save... mada bolje da ja cutim
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Ma ja nikako u Africi da nadjem te 20mm portee AA? U svakom slucaju boforsi su imobile pa mi se nekako cine dobrim samo za zastitu artiljerije....

Uzgred one moje tachanke su i HMG carieri pa to objasnjava zasto njihov HMG tim ima passenger save 5+...

Uzgred Pedja izgleda da smo ipak gresili kod GtG u sumi... u pravilima pise "Enemy teams that are concealed and did not move or shoot in their own turn are gone to ground"... Tako da pesadija koja se krece po sumi nije automatski GtG (bez obzira sto je Concealed zbog terena)... fakticki samo recce trupe mogu da se krecu i da ukoliko svoj potez zavrse kao concealed (znaci u sumi ili kuci) da dobiju i GtG status... (63 strana rulebuka)
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Rekao bih da nemaju.
Za topove koji imaju klasičnu vuču piše da su Passangers.
Za Portee ne piše.
A nekako po mom iskustvu ako nešto u pravilima ne piše znači da ne može/nije.
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Skobra wrote:Ma ja nikako u Africi da nadjem te 20mm portee AA? U svakom slucaju boforsi su imobile pa mi se nekako cine dobrim samo za zastitu artiljerije....

Uzgred one moje tachanke su i HMG carieri pa to objasnjava zasto njihov HMG tim ima passenger save 5+...

Uzgred Pedja izgleda da smo ipak gresili kod GtG u sumi... u pravilima pise "Enemy teams that are concealed and did not move or shoot in their own turn are gone to ground"... Tako da pesadija koja se krece po sumi nije automatski GtG (bez obzira sto je Concealed zbog terena)... fakticki samo recce trupe mogu da se krecu i da ukoliko svoj potez zavrse kao concealed (znaci u sumi ili kuci) da dobiju i GtG status... (63 strana rulebuka)
Tačno. Moja grešak. :oops:
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Pri tom ni Breda ni Oerlikon nisu Portee...
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ako pogledas 117 stranu Afrike, videces da pise da jesu.... pa ko je tu sad pametan..... 8O
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Mada su u svetlu ovoga oni tvoji ruski izvidjaci sad jos bolji... kad su u sumi :D

Ma ako su u pitanju Breda ili Oerlikon tanki su mnogo... znaci nema priblizavanja cak ni pesadiji... a ako su vec "pozadinci" onda bolje uzeti boforse. Mada bi(ako moze u listi) trebalo razmisliti o onim dingo dzipovima... em su recce em imaju oklop da se ne boje pesadije, em imaju AA MG... ja bi se definitivno odlucio za njih.

Sto rece Cempres stvarno pise na 117 da su portee... a i za onaj italijanski 20/65 SP AA pise da je portee... mada nema ni pomena u corrections
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Chempress wrote:ako pogledas 117 stranu Afrike, videces da pise da jesu.... pa ko je tu sad pametan..... 8O
da me jebeš ako znam...
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Ali evo dobrog mogućeg rešenja.
Ne pravi se dimountovan 20mm AA model.
Ipso facto nisu Portee.
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znaci na 117 strani brisemo sve iza "under development" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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najgore što na E-Store oba ova samohodna AA topa se vode kao portee ali nigde nema opcija da in kupiš dismountovane.
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Takođe nigde nema karakteristika za te 20mm AA topove u Britanskoj Gun Teams sekciji pa mislim da je to još jedan dokaz da nisu Portee
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Chempress wrote:ziveo sam u zabludi da su 25pdr nepokretni! hvala sto mi otvoriste oci! :D
a kapiram da portee nemaju putnicki save... mada bolje da ja cutim
Pa ja sam bio siguran da su heavy, ali reko' ajde da te ne ubedjujem, igras vise od mene, pa valjda bolje znas :D

OK, dilema resena, posto ako nemam dodatnih d6 na oklop, to znaci da umirem od promaje sa save-om od 5+, sto znaci da je domet dosta bitan. A tu je bofor bolji. A ima i taj FP koji je bolji...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:
Chempress wrote:ziveo sam u zabludi da su 25pdr nepokretni! hvala sto mi otvoriste oci! :D
a kapiram da portee nemaju putnicki save... mada bolje da ja cutim
Pa ja sam bio siguran da su heavy, ali reko' ajde da te ne ubedjujem, igras vise od mene, pa valjda bolje znas :D

OK, dilema resena, posto ako nemam dodatnih d6 na oklop, to znaci da umirem od promaje sa save-om od 5+, sto znaci da je domet dosta bitan. A tu je bofor bolji. A ima i taj FP koji je bolji...
Plus što Bofora možeš da ukopaš pa ćeš imati i Bulletproof cover.
Dilema je rešena.
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Dzon Vejn wrote:
Chempress wrote:ziveo sam u zabludi da su 25pdr nepokretni! hvala sto mi otvoriste oci! :D
a kapiram da portee nemaju putnicki save... mada bolje da ja cutim
Pa ja sam bio siguran da su heavy, ali reko' ajde da te ne ubedjujem, igras vise od mene, pa valjda bolje znas :D

OK, dilema resena, posto ako nemam dodatnih d6 na oklop, to znaci da umirem od promaje sa save-om od 5+, sto znaci da je domet dosta bitan. A tu je bofor bolji. A ima i taj FP koji je bolji...
xexe pa da ali ovo mi je 2 put da stavljam 25pdr na tablu... pa je doslo do pometnje :D
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Jedino što meni nije jasno je zašto si nezadovoljan Bišopima...
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:Jedino što meni nije jasno je zašto si nezadovoljan Bišopima...
Zato sto su 25 pdr bolji? Cim tenk / AT pripuca na bishopa, ti vise nemas bishopa, za razliku od 25 pdr koji i dalje ima svoj 5+ "ward save".
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Duc d' Elchingen
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Ali zato Bišop ignoriše vatru pešadije i HMG dok 25pdr ima svoj Imperijalna Garda 5+ save i tada...
Jedina prava prednost 25pdr je što je Turntable.
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:Ali zato Bišop ignoriše vatru pešadije i HMG dok 25pdr ima svoj Imperijalna Garda 5+ save i tada...
Jedina prava prednost 25pdr je što je Turntable.
Jeste, ali nemoj da zaboravis da to moze biti ukopano, itd., pa onda trebas da prodjes i FP na 6+ ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Sa druge strane ovi su znatno mobilniji. Mogu da odu od eventualne opasne situacije, tenkovi ne mogu da ih asaltuju...
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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pa sve ima svoje prednosti i mane...
ali moje dosadasnje iskustvo je .... bisopi su laka i cesta meta! najcesce su bili pod napadom jedinica sa 32" dometom i umirali najstrasnije... retko su bili pod puscanom vatrom tako da onaj oklop 1 im je vise odmogao nego pomogao. ukopani mogu vise da zaprete tenkovim koji im greskom pridju u 24", jer su se i kao mobilan at lose pokazali (bilo je par svetlih trenutaka, ali su cesce izginuli brutalno)
to je mozda kao sto si se ti medo zalio na kacuse.. da se protivnik fokusira na njih i oduva ih brzo i lako a tebi ode solidno poena u kurac!
sa 25pdr imas bar taj +5 save sto je mnogo bolje nego da protivnik samo baci fp
+ sto su do jaja ruzni! :D
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