Englezi v1.1

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Re: Englezi v1.1

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A ne! Od Kaćuša nema beskorisnije artiljerije pogotovo ako je jedina artiljerija.
Nemaju oklop znači 5+ save, ne mogu da se ukopaju.
Mukice, jedina prednost što su Trained i ima ih poprilično...
Mada ove za LW, za Gardijski teški tenkovski puk su već nešto drugo.
Ono čudovište od templejta je ipak primamljivo...
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Chempress wrote: + sto su do jaja ruzni! :D
lies! :D
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Nakon svih onih diskusija, dosao sam u trilemu da malo (vrlo malo) izmenim ono sto smatram UK top listom (za moj stil igranja). Elem, dosao sam do sledece 2 varijacije na temu:

HQ - 30
Upham - 50
Full rifle platoon sa svime - 215
Full rifle platoon sa svime - 215
Full rifle platoon sa svime osim bombama - 180
Full anti-tank - 195
Full artiljerija - 415
3 matilde bez kupoli - 100
Recce platoon sa 1 Humber LRC i 2 Humber MK II / III - 100

varijacija na temu je da se umesto recce platoona i light mortara u najmanjoj pesadiji ubaci light AA platoon sa 3 boforca (to bi mozda imalo prednost za turnire... mada sam jos u trilemi).

I jos uvek ne mogu da shvatim ulogu UK ROYAL inzenjera?!?! Sta ja ovde propustam? AT 4, ali beze i ne mogu da rade counter assault?!?!
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa tvoji inzinjeri su pravi inzinjeri, zidaju grade, a ne biju se :D
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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u mojoj bibliji kaze za recce platoon da kosta 90p.....
u bilo kojoj kombinaciji LRC III /2/1
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U AB ti uredno naplati to 5 poena. Vrlo verovatno je izasao neki FAQ za Afriku. Ako je to ipak besplatno, moze se ubaciti onoj 3. pesadiji, umesto anti tank i light mortara, bombe; u varijanti 2, ne mora se izbaciti light mortar.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Imam jos jednu listu, sastavicu ispod nje pros i cons:

armoured car squadron

HQ
4 humber mk II / III
uz dodatak 4 breda 20mm portee - 300 sve zajedno

COMBAT
2 humber mk II / III plus 1 upgrade u AEC - 125
2 humber mk II / III plus 1 upgrade u AEC - 125
3 AEC I - 170

SUPPORT
full artiljerija - 465
3 matilde bez topa - 100
full 6 pdr gunovi sa sve sticky bombama (ostalo 20 poena viska...) - 215

pros:
- puno recce stvari, koje su brzo tamo
- ima jedan veliki unit recce modela koji je tamo u 2. krugu, pa mozda uspe i da pobije nesto
- to je puno automobilcica na jednoj tabli

cons:
- imao bih puno modela koje ne mogu da iskoristim u drugim listama (bacene pare?)
- nemam karaktera (Uphameeeeee :oops: )
- AEC vozila imaju to idiJotsko UK pravilo no HE... pa je njihova isplatljivost pod duplim znakom pitanja (sa AT 7 se nece naubijati tenkova, a sa no HE ni pesadije...)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Opis flail matilde na FoW sajtu kaze:

Contains fail tank and a length of chain to make the flails. :D :D :D
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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E ajd sad ozbiljno za recce platoon:

- u knjizi pise da upgrade radim besplatno za up to 3 humber LRC u humber II / III
- u AB pise isto to, ali mi uredno naplati po 5 poena za svaki :D
- isto radi i u najnovijem data file-u

Slovicu, gospodaru pdf-ova na mobilnom telefonu, posotji li negde neki pdf koji ukazuje na to :D ?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Dzon Vejn wrote:E ajd sad ozbiljno za recce platoon:

- u knjizi pise da upgrade radim besplatno za up to 3 humber LRC u humber II / III
- u AB pise isto to, ali mi uredno naplati po 5 poena za svaki :D
- isto radi i u najnovijem data file-u

Slovicu, gospodaru pdf-ova na mobilnom telefonu, posotji li negde neki pdf koji ukazuje na to :D ?
u nedostatku Slovića odgovoriću ti je
knjiga je ta koja je u pravu a ne AB
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Ne, cak je i AB u pravu (on kaze da je to at no cost :D)... samo sto ti naplati uredno :D.

Jedino mi sada ostaje dilema, zasto 1 Humber II / III kosta isto kao 2 Humber LRC-a :D. I da li su bolji Humberi ili universal carrier-i. Humberi imaju veci armor, ali UC moze da dokupi pusku koja je pritom bolja od Humber main weapona. I plus su UC weapon tim.... edit: i ultra su jeftiniji UC :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Danas isprobato (i mislim da cu to igrati neko vreme):

HQ:
HQ = 30

HERO:
Upham = 50

COMBAT:
rifle platoon sa 3 sekcije, bombama, AT rifle team i light mortar = 215
rifle platoon sa 3 sekcije, bombama i AT rifle team = 205

WEAPON:
* carrier platoon sa 3 dodana MG = 105
AT platoon, 2 sekcije, 6 pdr towed = 195

SUPPORT:
Mine flail matilde, komada 3, bez AT pucaljke = 100
full artiljerija = 415
recce platoon sa 3 Humbera II / III = 90

AIR:
sporadic, kittyhawk = 95

* - Chempress mi rece da su dodatni MG hull mounted (sto jesu), ali da sa hull-a ne mogu da pucaju 2 oruzja (sto jos uvek pokusavam da pronadjem u pravilima, ali verujem da je tako), i da ih on igra kao dodatni MG.

To me dovodi do pitanja - kako tretiramo ovakve ocigledne "nelogicnosti" / "predvidjaje" u pravilima (kao npr i ono sa GMT pravilom, i svime ostalime na sta naletimo ili smo naleteli a da ja nisam upucen jos :D )?

Recimo da sam ja uzdrzan po tom pitanju (kako kaze vecina), samo bih voleo da sve takve stvari tretiramo isto (takoreci - ili da igramo by the book, ili da uvedemo house rulinge za sve takve stvari gde je nesto propusteno u textu, a ne samo za pojedinosti).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa,evo u Ameriki npr,ljudi su na nekom skorasnjem turniru uradili set house rule-ova za Brogward bIV dem carrier jer su,po njima,trenutna pravila jako losa.
I igrali su sa tim pravilima na turniru bez frke..i utisci su bili sjajni kod ogromne vecine ucesnika.
Pazte..dok god huse rules imaju veze sa mozgom,ne prave disbalans nego se prave zbog smeka ili "istorijske tacnosti" :))),ja sam za to da ih ljudi opusteno korsite..samo se lepo dogovorimo da su u igri ta pravila i to je to.
Naravno..ovo treba primenjivati SAMO u slucajevima extremno loseg rulinga naravno...sto ce reci...vrlo vrlo retko:)
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To je jasno.Kad je nesto lose uredjeno u knjizi,napravi se house rule i sve je ok.
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Pretezno se slazem sa Stevakisom.

Dodao bih samo za onu listu iznad mali side note - lista ima 8 vodova (posto se artiljerija racuna kao 2 kada se postavi na tablu - UK special rule), plus avijaciju :D. Dakle san svake pesadije :D. I jos 3 stvari koje se voze.

I tek sam sada shvatio da je matilda jos bolja nego sto sam mislio - kada se igra mrak (tj. u vecini slucajeva kada UK igracu zapadne da napada), jedna od njenih mana (slow tank - 8" move) se totalno ignorise... jer se niko ne moze kretati vise od 8" :D.

edit: ako se moderatori slazu - mogli bi da dodamo ticky temu sa house rules, pad aje punimo sa raznim stvarima, kako se nailazi na "greske"?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:
* - Chempress mi rece da su dodatni MG hull mounted (sto jesu), ali da sa hull-a ne mogu da pucaju 2 oruzja (sto jos uvek pokusavam da pronadjem u pravilima, ali verujem da je tako), i da ih on igra kao dodatni MG.
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Tu stranu sam video, ali na njoj ne pise da ne mozes da pucas sa 2 hull weapona, vec samo objasnjava sta je koji tip weapona, i kako rade multiple main gunovi...

Strana 87 (91 pdf) kaze da hull MG ne moze da puca kada i hull main weapon (a na strani kojoj si naveo pise da main gun nikada ne moze biti machinegun).

Cak ni za Humbere ne vazi tako nesto, jer kod Humbera LRC, stoji nakacen turret front MG (za koga jasno pise da ne moze da puca kada puca main gun (znaci ako opalis sa boys anti-tank rifle, ne moze TF MG, a ako pucas sa machine gun-om, ne mozes dodati kockice za main gun)), dok za Humbre II / III, opremljene co-ax MG lepo pise da mogu da pucaju kada i ostali weaponi, ali imaju ROF 1 u tom slucaju.

:-k
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Tu stranu sam video, ali na njoj ne pise da ne mozes da pucas sa 2 hull weapona, vec samo objasnjava sta je koji tip weapona, i kako rade multiple main gunovi...

Strana 87 (91 pdf) kaze da hull MG ne moze da puca kada i hull main weapon (a na strani kojoj si naveo pise da main gun nikada ne moze biti machinegun).

Cak ni za Humbere ne vazi tako nesto, jer kod Humbera LRC, stoji nakacen turret front MG (za koga jasno pise da ne moze da puca kada puca main gun (znaci ako opalis sa boys anti-tank rifle, ne moze TF MG, a ako pucas sa machine gun-om, ne mozes dodati kockice za main gun)), dok za Humbre II / III, opremljene co-ax MG lepo pise da mogu da pucaju kada i ostali weaponi, ali imaju ROF 1 u tom slucaju.

:-k
ali na toj strani ti lepo pise da svako dodatno oruzje puca sa ROF 1? ne kapiram sta te muci? hull mg + hull mg = 4 kockice
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pa da li 2 hull mg mogu da pucaju u isto vreme...?
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Chempress wrote:pa da li 2 hull mg mogu da pucaju u isto vreme...?
da, sa rof4 (3+1) na sledecoj strani ima i dijagram koji kaze multiple MG firing: 3 shoots + 1 for each additinal MG ... a kod hull mg pise da ne moze da puca sa hull main gunom i to je to ... nema restrickija za pucanje vise MG-a "montiranih" na isit nacin :D
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E pa upravo to me je mucilo... ni ja nigde nisam nasao da ne moze da puca vise MG montiranih na hull.

Ono Pedjino otkrice za UC cini taj unit malo... bleh... ali dobro, ima se mesta u supportu za jos 1 recce tim koji jeste fully armored :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:E pa upravo to me je mucilo... ni ja nigde nisam nasao da ne moze da puca vise MG montiranih na hull.

Ono Pedjino otkrice za UC cini taj unit malo... bleh... ali dobro, ima se mesta u supportu za jos 1 recce tim koji jeste fully armored :D.
izvini ali koji je to?
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:
Dzon Vejn wrote:british recce tim koji jeste fully armored :D.
izvini ali koji je to?
e neka si mu rekao :D
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koliko ja znam u MW jedino nemci imaju rece timove koji su FA
Luch i Panzer II F
u LW je već druga priča...
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Iz nekog razloga sam top armor procitao kao front armor :D, pa sam pomislio na humbere...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Dzon Vejn wrote:Iz nekog razloga sam top armor procitao kao front armor :D, pa sam pomislio na humbere...
što je babi milo to joj se i snilo :D
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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armoured car squadron:

HQ - 4 Daimler MK 1 = 180
COMBAT Daimler MK 1 = 135
COMBAT Humber MK II / III = 105
COMBAT Marmon Herrington = 90
SUPPORT full royal horse artillery = 465
SUPPORT full AT royal artillery, 6 pdrs = 195
SUPPORT full AA = 195
Limited kittyhawk = 130

total = 1495

za ovo ce mi faliti svega 10 vozila kada stigne ova porudzbina :D.... vrlo verovatno cu ovo nabaviti posle Finske liste.

Jedino sto ostaje neverovatno je da su 3 daimler dingo autica 7.5 funti, a 1 daimler mk 1 je 6.5.... ali dobro, to su te cudne matematike :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Dzon Vejn wrote:armoured car squadron:

HQ - 4 Daimler MK 1 = 180
COMBAT Daimler MK 1 = 135
COMBAT Humber MK II / III = 105
COMBAT Marmon Herrington = 90
SUPPORT full royal horse artillery = 465
SUPPORT full AT royal artillery, 6 pdrs = 195
SUPPORT full AA = 195
Limited kittyhawk = 130

total = 1495

za ovo ce mi faliti svega 10 vozila kada stigne ova porudzbina :D.... vrlo verovatno cu ovo nabaviti posle Finske liste.

Jedino sto ostaje neverovatno je da su 3 daimler dingo autica 7.5 funti, a 1 daimler mk 1 je 6.5.... ali dobro, to su te cudne matematike :D.
protiv ovog bi bilo vrlo interesantno igrati ali ne tenkovima
to bi ubilo draž...
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Ja mislim da protiv ove liste pesadija nema sta da trazi :D.

Jedini realni nedostatak liste je sto je vrlo oskudna u tamanjenju oklopa 9. To je i najveci razlog zasto se avioni nalaze u listi.

Umesto aviona se mogu ubaciti 17/25 puske (u poen identicno), koje mogu realno da povrede sta god od tenkova, ali onda protivnik prvo opali sve po njima, pa 17/25 sa svojim mocnim saveom od 5+ umre. I onda vise nema sta da ubije tigra. Ovako, sa avionima, postoji konstantna pretnja ;).

Meni bi bilo interesantno da se oprobam sa ovim protiv tenkova ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ja mislim da protiv ove liste pesadija nema sta da trazi :D.

Jedini realni nedostatak liste je sto je vrlo oskudna u tamanjenju oklopa 9. To je i najveci razlog zasto se avioni nalaze u listi.

Umesto aviona se mogu ubaciti 17/25 puske (u poen identicno), koje mogu realno da povrede sta god od tenkova, ali onda protivnik prvo opali sve po njima, pa 17/25 sa svojim mocnim saveom od 5+ umre. I onda vise nema sta da ubije tigra. Ovako, sa avionima, postoji konstantna pretnja ;).

Meni bi bilo interesantno da se oprobam sa ovim protiv tenkova ;).
poenta je što bi u tom slučaju pešadija sigurno imala AT topove a za ova čuda čak je i onaj Pak36 bensedin
još ako ti scenario da ambush do dva...
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Pa... ambush ti nece puno pomoci jer je pola vojske recce, mislim da je dosta tesko uraditi kvalitetan ambush protiv ove vojske.

Armor 1 jeste mali, ali oni su i dalje veterani (sto znaci da me u najboljem slucaju pogadjas na 4+), pa onda trebas i FP da prodjes, i uz sve to ti opalis ROF1, pa onda ja mozda pobegnem ;) (a ako uspem da pobegnem, u proseku, to je mozda 1 bail out, a mozda ni jedan). Mislim da to nije bas lako pobiti, posebno ne glavni unit, koji je fully armored, sto znaci da sam imun na pinovanje u assaultu. Plus imam 6 AA machine guns :D, pa onda jos 13 vozila sa machine guns, plus na sve to avioni, i na kraju velika artiljerija ;).

Pak36 sumnjam da ce neko ubaciti u turnirsku (generalnu) listu ;). Inace, ako se ova lista pravi bas protiv pesadije, onda lete AT puske, ubacuju se mine flail matilde (koje pesadije moze intenzivno da mrzi :D) i radi se upgrade 1 unita u AEC vozila. Moze da se iskombinuje i smanjenje AA na 1 sekciju, pa da se ubace jos i stuarti.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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a ko je Fully Armoured?
odnosno ko ima Top Armour 1 ili 2?
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dobro odigrati sa recce cetom mi se cini zeznuto... treba tu malo da se vezba... ali ko se izvezba guzice sve redom! :D
vrlo zajebano! :D
video sam negde pravila i listu za LRDG......? pedja ae pomagaj! :D
bilo bi ludnica za igrati!

ovo bi mozda bilo neko moje buduce ulaganje! :D
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Chempress wrote:dobro odigrati sa recce cetom mi se cini zeznuto... treba tu malo da se vezba... ali ko se izvezba guzice sve redom! :D
vrlo zajebano! :D
video sam negde pravila i listu za LRDG......? pedja ae pomagaj! :D
bilo bi ludnica za igrati!

ovo bi mozda bilo neko moje buduce ulaganje! :D
fow sajt, sekcija brifinzi
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p...e niko ne komentarise moje zabare za lw... :( :(
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cekaj to je tek posebna prica! :D
dozn me je sada podsetio nesto.... :D

e jbg ne mogu da nadjem sad LRDG!
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koliko sam prso....
pise lepo armouerd car a ja citam recce.... :applause:

recce bi bilo ipak ludje igrati! :D
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uuu ma da i ovaj armoured car je ludnica! :D
bas sam se sad zapalio! :D
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Re: Englezi v1.1

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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:a ko je Fully Armoured?
odnosno ko ima Top Armour 1 ili 2?
Daimler kola. Sto ce reci HQ + njihova trupa = total od 7 vozila ;). Mozes anravno da uzmes sve daimlere, nego sam ja to malo sarolikosti radi ubacio ovako ;).

edit: heh... jos jedan od bugova u AB-u :(

edit2: aaah, divote.... sad vidim i da matilda scorpion ima top armor 1 (a uzeo sam ih najvise zbog cinjenice da imaju top armor 2 :( )
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Najbolje da deinstaliras Army Builder :)
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