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Opet sam poceo da razmisljam o lizardmenskoj armiji (oh ne :D ), i opet imam isti problem - kako napraviti teradone. Originalne figure mi se em ne svidjaju (mislim da su pored kameleon skinkova to jedine figure u lizard armiji koje mi se ne svidjaju), em su skupi ko lek, a meni treba dosta njih.

Ima li nekih ideja za konverziju? Ja sam nesto razmisljao o vampirskim sis-misima, ili screamerima, mada su dosta razlicite figure.... mada, sve je bolje od one odrane macke sa nakacenim krilima na kojima visi skink :roll:

edit: odrane macke sa oversize-ovanim krilima...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Da li si video nove modele?Skoro su izasli ,i deluju prilicno OK.
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Da. Jednako su mi odvratni kao oni stari. Nije u pitanju da nemaju detalje ili tako nesto, naprotiv, jednostavno mi se ne svidja idejno resenje vajara.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Ja sam Livadi svojevremeno radio teradone i posto je bio u manjku za jednu jedinicu ja sam mu napravio skinkove sa krilima i bas mi se svidjaju takvi mnogo vise no ovako kako izgledaju 8) :twisted:
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a avijacija u stilu Evoka iz "Povratka Dzedaja"? drveno-kozne krilaste skalamerije i jedan-dva skinka (jedan sa kopljem jedan sa kamedzurom)? Njihovi letaci su bili napravljeni bas da lete kroz sumu?
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Bas se danas vidjam sa bracom Livada, pa cu bas da pitam za te skinkove.

Ovo sa Evocima je odlicna ideja, to bi moglo da udje u razmatranje ;). Moram samo da provalim kako se rade custom krila, tj., od kog materijala da uradim one kozne delove krila.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Od toalet-papira natopljenog drvofiksom.
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Hm to mi nikada ne bi palo na pamet... samo cu verovatno videti da iskoristim punogramski papir, jer on moze lepo da se oblikuje.

A sad pitanja za one koji su radili vise sa drvofixom:
1. koliko mu treba da se potpuno osusi
2. nakon koliko sati / minuta / cega god, pocne da se stvrdnjava
3. posle koliko vise ne moze da se oblikuje?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Uh... Ako ces papir da topis drvofiksom, valja ga razrediti. Sto znaci da ce mu dugo trebati da se osusi. Dakle napravis drvenu konstrukciju, i onda ili umocis papir u razredjeni drvofiks, pa ga onda naneses na konstrukciju, ili ga prvo metnes gde hoces, a onda ga cetkom namazes rastvorom (u tom slucaju moze i gusci rastvor). Obzirom da to treba da predstavlja komad koze rastegnut izmedju komada drveta, nema tu sta da se oblikuje. A guz papir je dobar zbog teksture.
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los guz papir ima dobru teksturu :)

nije losa ideja da, ako hoces da pravis da su krila onako malo od vazduha zekrivljena, prvo napravis "kalupe" sa tom krivinom, od plastelina je dovoljno dobro, pa onda papir sa vrlo razredjenim tutkalom, samo naneses preko.

mislim (misljenje je kao guzica, svako ga ima) da ne bi trbalo da se preterano tesko skine (davno sam se time igrao), ali mozda (pretpostavka je majka zajeba) ne bi bilo lose da se "kalup" prvo necim zamasti, da lepak ne prijanja (ovo pak moze da pravi probleme kasnije, pri farbanju, ali mozda i nece ;) ).

ko nije probao, ne zna...
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Vidis, nisam razmisljao o zakrivljenim krilima... Mada je i to jednostavno - ostavis viska papira kad ga nanosis (da ne bude zategnut nego da labavo visi), i okacis celu konstrukciju naglavacke, da bi lukovi bili nagore. Obrati paznju da mokar papir se malo zategne kad se osusi.
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Da ne otvaram bez potrebe novu temu, i ova ce posluziti svrsi. Elem modeli teradona su jedni od najproblematicniji u mojoj gusterskoj armiji. Ne samo da mi se izgled samih modela ne svidja nego je problem i njihova neprakticnost (mnogo su kabasti i nezgodni za prenosenje). Gledajuci juce film Avatar pade mi na pamet ideja da napravim svoje teradone poput onih letecih zivuljki iz filma (svako ko je gledao zna o cemu pricam za one koji ne znaju evo linka: http://avatartrailer.com/wp-content/upl ... _art_1.jpg ). Moja ideja je da koristim blago modifikovane dark elfovske cold one-ove koje bi jahali skinkovi i kojima bih naravno nalepio krila. E sad treba mi savet i predlog da li da koristim krila nekih vec postojecih modela (na pamet mi padaju furije ili dark pegazi) ili bi bilo bolje da ih sam vajam od epoksidne smole i green stafa. A mozda je ovo i potpuno losa ideja pa bi bilo bolje da odustanem od nje :D
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Ne znam da li velicina odgovara, ali novi gargojli sa sobom donose 10 pari plasitcnih krila... plus ja bi bio zainteresovan za trupove. Savvy?
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Gargolji ne znam koje su velicine, ali mislim da su ti za cold ones, krila furija premala, a krila pegaza prevelika.

U svakom slucaju, sta god da odlucis i uradis, jako bih voleo da vidim te slike ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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I ja se plasim da ce krila furija biti mala a pegaza prevelika, samo sam ih navodio kao primer, zato se iskreno nadam da ce ova od gargojla odgovarati. Sto se slika tice obavezno cu da ih postavim kad zavrsim. Istina malo ce ovaj projekat da priceka posto mi je farbanje tiranida trenutno prioritet, ali posto njih spremim za turnir za maj, na red ce da dodju teradoni.
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Meni je Kirgan nakalemio krila pegaza na Cold Onea (to mi je kao neki wyrmling umesto Dark Pegasusa), i, po meni, izgleda baš kul (samo nikako da ga obojim). Problem je bio pozicionirati Cold Onea tako da bude (relativno) stabilan. Ako hoćeš, mogu da slikam, pa da okačim sliku ili da ga donesem neki dan u Hobby Store, pa da pogledaš.
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Hvala na ponudi ali mislim da ću ipak probati sa plastičnim krilima gargojla iz više razloga: biće mnogo jeftinije, praktičnije i lakše ću prenositi i pakovati skroz plastične modele bez straha da će se krila medjusobno guliti, planiram da napravim 10 ovakvih "teradona" tako da bi mi teško pozicioniranje modela dosta otežalo posao. U svakom slučaju još jednom hvala na ponudi :)
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Nema na čemu, sad sam i sam video nove gargojle i pomislio: E, ovo bi išlo sto puta lakše...
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Pazite, ne znam kakvi su novi gargojli (tj. njihova krila), ali ja sam ranije nameravao da napravim sledecu konverziju:

Cold One 4 ed. + krila od dark pegaza = dark pegaz (u mojoj verziji).

Moglo bi da prodje kao pteradon bez problema, a sigurno je daleko lepse od postojecih modela.
Nakacio sam krila jednom da vidim kako izgleda i mogu reci da je sasvim OK.
Ako uzmete najnovije cold one modele (7. ed.) bice i jos bolje, ili mi se samo cini.
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Ova konverzija je i rađena sa najnovijim Cold Oneom, pošto oni i izgledaju baš onako... speedy, za tešku konjicu su mi ipak bolji oni debeljušci iz prethodne edicije i ispalo je, kako rekoh, sjajno. Sa gargojl-krilima je mnogo lakše jer su, za početak, plastična...
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Cold one iz 4. ed . nije debeljuskast. Moze se reci da su oni posluzili kao inspiracija za 7.ed.
Matalan je i nesto veci.
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