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evo zvanicnog sajta na kome moze da se digitalno kupi i downloaduje igra
http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/

a evo i opisa na gamespotu, dobio ocenu 7.0
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sports/bloodbowl/review.html
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Jel to znaci da te vise nikad necemo videti u javnosti ili samo sledecih 10-ak meseci? :)

P.S. proveri ponekad poruke na mobilnom. To je ona plasticna stvarcica koja zvoni i iz koje se cuju neki glasovi, a uvek si se pitao zasta sluzi :)
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Da, izaslaje igra i nikako ne mogu da nadjem crack... :(
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Say no to drugs, especialy crack.

Jedva cekam da vidim na sta lici, izgaram.
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uporno pokusavam danima da platim karticom, medjutim servis im je toliko ubog da jos nije uspela da prodje
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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Blood Bowl je stigao i u nase prodavnice, ima da se kupi u Game-s u Uscu i Delta Cityju za 3000 dindzi.

Inace uporno insistirajte da radnja u koju ste usli IMA tu igru u prodaji, bez obzira koliko vas ovi ubedjivali da nemaju. Moje iskustvo:

Ulazim u radnju, ljubazni prodavac me odma pozdravlja i pita dal moze da pomogne:
- Dal imate za PC igru Blood B...
- NE!!!
- ...owl
- NEMAMO!!!
- Ali na internetu...
Ovaj pocetak recenice je ocigledno bio previse za obicnog prodavca te se odma obratio za pomoc vodji smene, velikom misliocu i parapsihologu
- E, ajde vidi jel imamo Blood Bath
- Nemamo
- Ja: Bowl. Ali na internetu pise da ima
- To mozda ima samo tamo u prodavnici u novom sadu
- Ali na internetu pise da imate bas u ovoj radnji
- ........Ajde da vidimo kako si ti to nasao.
- Ides na sajt, pa pc, pa igre, pa poredjaj najnovije (ovo je sve proslo bez problema, e ali onda sledi problem), pa onda pritisnes ovde da ga poredja u opadajuce, ne u rastuce..
*Desni klik* 8O, *levi click* (sajt krece da se ucitava) *click* (pre nego sto je ucitao, sto se naravno odrazilo time sto je opet ucitao staru stranu).
- Sta je bre ovo
- Znas...*click,click,click* .... treba da sacekas.... *Cliick, clickckckckckcc*.... samo jednom.... *clickckckckckckckckcc* ..... da pritisnes (urnebesno je bilo to sto svaki put kad je prestao i sacekao 2 sekunde, to je bio onaj pogresan parni klik)....

5 minuta kasnije je ipak uspeo da ga poredja kako treba.

- e sad na kojoj je to strani
- na trecoj
- aha, evo, gde
- eto tu
- gde

sledi jos 15 sekundi buljenja u ekran na cijoj sredini stoji ispisana igra.
- AHAAAA, pa evo je ovde

Ironija je bila i to sto se igrica nalazila na 1m od njega, na najisturnijoj polici, koju ja nisam pogledao jer me je onaj prvi odma pitao da pomogne. Tako mi i treba kad verujem da nas prodavac moze zaista da mi pomogne.




E a sad sama igra. Za razliku od warhammer online koji je 3 dana po izlasku imao patch od 800mb, ovaj ima patch od samo par megabajta, tako da je to proslo prilicno bezbolno. Sledi startovanje, naravno program odma namesti pogrsno sve video opcije, sledi manuelna promena, pa restart i onda je proradio kako treba.
Igra izgleda jako lepo, samo mi nije bas najjasnije zbog cega tolika hardverska zahtevnost. Mozes da mrdas kameru vamo tamo, u toku utakmice ima dva komentatora koji su barem meni bili prilicno dobro odradjeni, mozes da biras na kom terenu ces da igras (ima humanski, dwarfovski, elfovski, chaos, i svi izgledaju jako lepo. Moze da se ukljuci grid kako bi se lepo videle kockice, moze da se ukljuce tackle zone sto u bitnoj meri ubrzava partiju, i na prvi mah je sve to lepo.
Medjutim jos uvek ima tu sitnijih bagova i krupnijih nedostataka:
01. Recimo, igra ti pokazuje pre nego sto napadnes kolko bi bacao kockica. Medjutim, kad recimo beastman sa hornsima pravi charge na drugog igraca snage 3, igra pokazuje da ces bacati jednu kockicu, iako kad stvarno dodje bacanje na red on baci uredno 2.
02. Kod pravljenja tima, a kolko sam video ni posle nemas opciju da biras imena igracima, vec kako ti random zapadne
03. Postoji free liga koja je vlasnistvo same firme koja je napravila igru, i more drugih liga koje su napravili igraci. Kada se pritisne taj tab, komp odma ucita spisak liga, medjutim, ako se slucajno pritinse dugme search tokom ovog ucitavanja, igra odma zaglavi
04. Ako se protivnik namerno diskonektuje tokom partije, jedino sto mozes da uradis je da ga stavis na black listu.
05. Za vreme utakmice ne vidis koji player ima koliko SPP (bar ja nisam nasao) sto dosta smeta prilikom odabira junaka za prvu liniju. Svi abilitji se uredno vide.

Naravno, sve me to nece spreciti da igram :). To je to za sada, pa ako nesto novo budem uocio napisacu i o tome
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Znaci sada jos da ovi u HS dobiju jacu masinu pa bi pojedinci mogli od kuce da igraju dok im je protivnik u HS-u. Samo jos nekako da se uskladi bacanje kockica :)
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Evo posle 20 i kusur odigranih partija ponovni utisci

Da krenemo sa update-om ranijih utisaka:

01. Ovo sa beastmenima i hornsima i blitz akciji i pogresnom pokazivanju broja kockica stoji samo ako beastman blitzuje sa zemlje, u ostalim slucajevima radi normalno

02. Kod pravljenja tima, nakon kupovine igraca, imas mogucnost da mu promenis ime (samo je opcija malo zabacena, ali postoji), ali cim stisnes dugme submit (cime se tim snima na njihov server) ime postaje trajno.

03. problem sa radom sa ligama koje su napravili igraci je ozbiljniji, naime da li ce se igra zaglaviti je potpuno random, ne zavisi ni od cega, jednostavno nekad imas srece, a nekad ne :evil:

04. Osim sto protivnika mozes da stavis na black listu, za svakog igraca postoji i "reliability" koji pokazuje koliko je taj igrac zapocetih partija i zavrsio (u procentima), i to je vrlo pregledno prikazano, sto umnogome obeshrabruje takav vid ponasanja jer ako ti procenat padne ispod "ocekivanog" (sto je za sada oko 75%) niko vise nece da igra sa tobom. Na chatu u samoj igri kruzi prica da ako odjavis tim iz public lige (a to radis ako hoces da igras lige koje su pravili igraci), pa se onda opet prijavis, taj procenat se resetuje. Medjutim, resetuje se i broj pobeda, kao i broj poena u samoj public ligi (public liga ima ranking sistem, a bodovi zavise od mnogo faktora), tako da opet ni to ne ide na ruku potencijalnim prevarantima. medjutim danas sam uspeo da izvucem rezultat iz bitke u kojoj se protivnik odjavio (sad da li je to bio bug ili tako radi ostaje proverim). Naime, ako se neko diskonektuje pojavi se poruka da je izgubljena veza, i odbrojavanje od 1 min. Nakon tog odbrojavanja se pojavljuje prozor koji obavestava da je mec prekinut i da pritisnes "quit", medjutim u pozadini sat ponovo odbrojava jos 1 min. Ako se saceka i taj drugi minut pa onda pritisne "quit", izgleda da igra prihvati to kao da je onaj predao mec.

05. Za vreme utakmice mozes da vidis koliko koji igrac ima SPP (trebalo je samo da procitam uputstvo 8O ), doduse dosta traljavo uradjeno, ali opet IMA.

06. Kada nadjes protivnika, ucitavanje terena i igraca pred pocetak meca traje vise od 1 minut (mozda i 2) sto je imbecilno dugacko vreme. Kada igra krene onda ide sasvim lepo. Takodje, na mom kompu se igra "crash"-uje sa vremena na vreme prilikom ucitavanja terena (pred pocetak bitke), sto je jako jako frustrirajuce

07. Danas mi se desilo (i svima ostalima koji poseduju igru i koji su igrali mec u to vreme) da je pao server koji update-uje timove. Rezultat: u igri se pojavi poruka da je server pao, medjutim mozes da nastavis da igras igru do kraja. Na kraju meca ispadne kao da ga nisi ni igrao, osim sto ti reliability padne za odgovarajuci procenat :evil:. Ljudi su zbog ovog satima i satima pljuvali po cyanidu (firmi koja je napravila igru) na public chatu

08. Sam interfejs u kome se vrsi chat i pregled i izbor protivnika je vrlo lepo zamisljen, a ocajno odradjen. Sve opcije postoje, ali je bolno kolko je to nedostuno i nelogicno

09. Pojedinci se kunu u majku da bacanje kockica nije skroz random, vec zavisi od toga koji mod si izabrao prvi put kad si igrao single game (postoji Easy, Normal i Hard). Ja sam izabrao Hard, ali nisam primetio da me kockica nece vise nego inace (znaci standardno za mene, dobiti 3+ za mene je 50% sanse :wink: )

10. AI u single modu je urnebesno glup cak i na hard. Doduse, nisam ni ocekivao da bude drugacije, sa obzirom da je blood bowl ko sah na srecu, imas milione kombinacija, i verovatno bi trebala citava armija programera da ga natera da igra priblizno ko "zivi" protivnik
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skoro 7 partija dnevno u proseku... novi WoW za Nikolu :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Nikse nemoj da zaboravis da skines kacigu kad krenes na posao ovih dana. :-({|=
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Stevan wrote:Nikse nemoj da zaboravis da skines kacigu kad krenes na posao ovih dana. :-({|=
Bice dobro ako se ne uzivi u skill wild animal u prisustvu kolega :lol: :mrgreen:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo da kazem i nesto pozitivno da ne bude da igra ne valja 8O

Kampanja za single player je vrhunski odradjena, ljudi koji nikad nisu igrali bb na tabli (dada, ima i takvih 8O 8O ) jos uvek nisu ni isprobali multiplayer opciju. Imas kao mapu imperije i onda putujes po njoj sa svojim timom i ucestvujes na raznim turnirima. To je super samo je ai glup, pa meni nije zanimljivo, ali ko ne zna da igra ili treba da se douci to je prava stvar.

Iako postoje mnogobrojni problemi koji su uglavnom vezani za server na kome ide chat i na kome se update-uju timovi i mecevi, posto on nije testiran dovoljo, momci iz cijanida se trude da sve ispeglaju u sto brzem vremenu jer su i sami zaludjenici za bb. Za mesec dana je izaslo 3 patcha (i ne nisu od 1GB svaki, nego par megabajta, jer kao sto rekoh nije sama igra problem nego jebeni chat i udate server), na svaki problem koji se pojavi na forumu odgovara neki administrator i tako.

U opisu igre na gamespotu jedna od glavnih zamerki je bilo uzasno odradjeni komentatori meceva. To uopste nije tacno ako se ja pitam. Istina je, uvek ista dvojca prenose meceve, ali to su upravo ona dvojca sa slike za blood bowl ako se secate (onaj star player minotaur i onaj goblin), istina je da se komentri ponavaljaju, ali ima ih sasvim dosta da ne bude dosadno. Recimo, svaki roll na tabeli prilikom kick off-a ima svoj komentar (moj najbolji je kada neko ispuca minotaur vikne chaaaarge, a goblin odma dont take me dont take me, na sta ovaj opet oooo, sorry, im alright). Kada sam igrao sa goblinima, minotaur je prokomentarisao nesto vrlo slicno ovome. "Heh, dada, ovi goblini su zaista glupi, secam se kad sam ja trebao da igram protiv jedne ekipe, dosao je jedan i rekao mi da sam ja neprijatelj. Glupak nije znao da je on ustvari neprijatelj"

Grafika je kao sto rekoh vrlo simpaticna, mada ne vidim zasto tolika hardverska zahtevnost. Medjutim, sve na terenu je animirano, postoje otprilike tereni za sve rase koji se podosta razlikuju u izgledu, duz out linije sa jedne strane igraju cheer lideri jedne ekipe a sa druge strane drugi. Dwarfovi recimo drze u rukama bugmans pivo i igraju na na buricima, pa onda neki ljosne na zemlju, i onda se opet podigne i popne; Chaos lidersice umesto onih pufni masu sa ljudskim glavama, a elfice sa cvecem. Svaka akcija bilo kog igraca ne terenu ima svoju animaciju. Ako recimo nekom probijes armor, pojavi se mala lokva krvi na terenu pa onda u sledecem krugu nestane. Ako je neki KO, onda mrlja ostane malo duze. Ako je neki Badly hurt ili gore, javi se velika mrlja, ponekad i sa kojom koskom koja ostaje do kraja meca. Svaka rasa ima specifican "victory dance" prilikom touchdown-a. Svaki KO, injury i touchdown je propracen usporenim snimkom koji izgleda kao da snima kamera sa strane.

Iako postoje ljudi koji rade logoff meni se desilo samo 2 puta u 30 meceva, sto je mnooogo manji procenat budala od bilo koje druge online igre.

toliko za sada.
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I-jel vredelo para kupiti originalnu igru?
I, jos vaznije-kolika je tacna zahtevnost igre, tj-kojom masinom ti teras i na kom nivou grafike?
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Danas sam i ja probao BB. Meni se prilicno svideo. Nekoliko brzih utisaka:

- u odnosu na fumbbl bolje je to sto ti odmah, pre pokretanja, pokaze koliko bi kockica imao. Dosta olaksava pocetnicima, a i meni se cak jednom desilo da nisam nesto dobro preracunao, tako da sam mogao na vreme da pretvorim 1 kocku u 2 kocke za mene
- grafika je ultra dobra za moj ukus (side note: ja nisam bas nesto graficki zahtevan tip, tako da to mozda i nije neki parametar)
- utakmicu sam pronasao u roku od 3 piko sekunde, sto je velika prednost. I sam engine pokretanja utakmica je dosta bolji - izlaze ti u uglu sve ponude, tako da ne moras prvo da palis chat, pa da se dogovaras, pa onaj da gleda liste, pa trt-mrt - dakle ima opcija i da se krene ODMAH.
- naravno, ja sam imao tu srecu da sam odmah naleteo na nekoga ko nema pojma da igra, pa su onda poceli komentari kako ga nece i kako je sranje partija (ja nista nisam pisao u chat-u, samo sam tukao, orkovski :D). I naravno, na kraju se diskonektovao :roll: . Sto doduse nije sprecilo engine da mi pribelezi pobedu (nisam siguran kako je izracunao da sam pobedio sa 2-0, posto je u tom momentu bilo 1:0 za mene i blitzer mi je bio na 1 polju od gola). Otprilike, izbacivao sam mu po 1 igraca po krugu u publiku, i otprilike, u 3. krugu su mu svi lezali. Onda su krenuli neki blitzevi sa black orkom kroz tackle zone, isl. :D. Nikola kaze da ima i dosta dobrih protivnika, ali ja eto naletoh na ovog. Thrower mi je dobio strong arm \:D/ .
- reliability je odlicna stvarcica, jer ti omogucava da iz momenta otkacis mentole. Dakle on kad ti ponudi partiju odmah vidis koji mu je reliability, i po mojoj proceni, ako nije preko 90, to odmah ignore.
- igra se bas dugo ucitava, ali kad se ucita sve radi brzo i kako treba
- koliko sam shvatio, standard je da se podesavaju utakmice na 2 minuta, sto je meni bilo sasvim dovoljno (krug u kome sam najvise razmisljao sam zavrsio TACNO za 2 min - dakle kad sam pomerio poslednjeg igraca zavrsio mi se krug). U principu, racuna samo 2 minuta RAZMISLJANJA - dakle dok rolas kockice, biras gde ces ga gurnuti, itd., to ti nista ne ulazi u vreme. Mozda bi protiv nekog boljeg protivnika bilo malo gusce, ali zato postoji i opcija da se podesi na 4 min ;).
- Malo je konfuzno kreiranje tima (barem meni bilo), i da Nikola nije sedeo pored, nisam bas siguran da bih sve uradio kako treba (ne nalazi se sve na jednom ekranu, nego se nesto setas po ekranima, pa zatim ne postoji mogucnost da se predomislis za nesto, nego ako pogresis, moras da pravis tim iz pocetka, itd.).
- Meni se malo nepregledno cine pozicije igraca - u prvom trenutku nisam bas najbolje mogao da razlikujem black orka, blitzera, linemana i throwera - svi su mi izgledali isto. Istina, posle pola utakmice mi je vec bilo malo lakse, mada i dalje ne bas onako kako bih ja voleo - ono, iz aviona da se vidi sta je sta. Mozda se ovo moze popraviti sa izmenom izgleda opreme (sto nisam proucavao, jer sam hteo samo da vidim kako izgleda igra).
- Grid nije neophodan, jer je i bez njega dosta pregledno (kad pomeras igraca, on sve lepo iscrta, tako da nema problema).
- Engine ima dosta dobar izbor najbolje moguce rute, mada mozes i da mu klikces polje po polje, ili 2-3 polja odjednom, pa polje po polje, pa opet 2-3 polja (ako imas dovoljan move, naravno). Sve se odmah vidi - koliko GFI rolova imas, gde ces morati da radis dodge, koliko kockica, da li je blitz ili nije (doduse, ako hoces da radis vise radnji (prvo da probas move 2-3 polja), moras rucno da ukljucis blitz (na b slovo) - mada to tako i treba, jelte).
- I malo mi je, za prvi put, bilo nepregledno sta kompjuter rolla od kockica, ali to nije bitno, jer na ekranu sasvim jasno vidis sta se desava - kada je neko samo oboren ima par zvezdica oko sebe, kada je probijen oklop ima zastavu EU oko sebe :D, kada je KO pokaze se zvonce prvo, pa nestane sa terena, a CAS nisam uspeo da napravim (posto sam mu sve gurao u publiku :D - i to izgleda jako lepo), pa ne znam kako to izgleda, ali predpostavljam da je prilicno jasno i to.
- Mnogo je cool uradjeno kada se priblizavas golu, sto si blizi, to jace orkovi udaraju u bubnjeve :D. Predpostavljam da svaki tim ima neku foru :D.

Jos niste otisli da kupite svoj primerak? :P

edit: cena je 3000 dinara, video sam da ima u platou. Zahtevnost kompa je koliko sam shvatio velika.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Stavrogin wrote:I-jel vredelo para kupiti originalnu igru?
I, jos vaznije-kolika je tacna zahtevnost igre, tj-kojom masinom ti teras i na kom nivou grafike?
Ja igram za sada u proseku 4-5 partija dnevno, pa ti sam proceni dal se isplati :D (jedna partija traje oko 1 do 1,5 sat

Moja masina je vrlo dobra (2,6 Core 2 duo, 9600GeForce, 4GB rama) pa nemam ama bas nikakvih problema, osim duzine ucitavanja samog meca, medjutim to nije problem do masine, vec do programera.
Nema nesto mnogo podesavanja grafike u igri, ima da izaberes rezoluciju i svega jos par onih boxova.
Na kutiji pise da radi na 2,4GHz procesoru i grafickoj.... cini mi se GeForce 6400+, i 1gb rama (za vistu 2).


P.S. Danas mi se desilo opet de se jedan diskonektuje (u preko 50 partija diskonektovalo se nekih 5 protivnika, sto je ultra dobar prosek), ja sacekao da prodje vreme i komp je uredno to protumacio kao da je on predao, odnosno meni dao duple pare, pobedu od 2:0 (posto je bilo 1:0 u tom trenutku, 3SPP je dobio igrac koji je u tom trenutku nosio loptu, svi ostali dobili svoje SPP koje su ostvarili tokom meca). Izgleda da je nesto uradjeno po tom pitanju u zadnjem patchu (koji je bio pre dva dana).
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Posteno, vredi...nazalost, meni je grafika 5200, pa cemo morati da cekamo... ](*,)
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samo mala ispravka, minimalna grafika je geforce 6600
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Danas odigrah jos 2 partije, i evo novih momenata:

- preglednost na terenu mi je sada malo bolja nego pre. Mada mi se i pored toga desilo jednom da sam mislio od linemana da je blitzer (istina, potpuno mojom greskom, jer pri odabiru kockice lepo pise i koje skillove imas).
- ne svidja mi se kako kompjuter baca CAS roll-ove :D... ja to radim mnogo bolje :D... jos uvek nemam ni jedan CAS :roll: , a u poslednjoj partiji sam napravio oko 10 KO :D.
- Cini mi se da ima dosta igraca koji nemaju pojma... doduse to ne znaci da ne umeju da bacaju kockice :D.

1. partija VS wood elfa: da skratim, necu pricati sta je sve uspeo da uradi da me natera da ja tek u zadnjem krugu dodjem do gola (spomenucu recimo da sam loptu, sa throwerom sa sure hands podigao u 4. krugu uz koriscenje sure hands skilla :D)... elem, dolazim do gola, fali mi GFI. Naravno, bacim 1. Scatter, naravno u publiku (imao sam na druga dva mesta u TD zoni po 1 igraca...). Nalazim se u desnom sideline-u. Scatter desno u publiku. Scatter na sred srede. Scatter levo u publiku. Scatter ka sredini table na treemana. Treeman 6 da uhvati. Treeman prodje root. Treeman uradi 2 GFI rolla. Treeman pass - dobije 6 :D. Catcher u mojoj tackle zoni, hvata. Dodge, go :roll: . Jebiga, onda ga u njegovom krugu nije bas toliko kenjalo, pa sam uspeo da izjednacim :D.

2. partija VS humana: ja sam se setkao totalno opusteno po tabli sa throwerom koji je nosio loptu. Zasto? Covek nema ni jedan RR 8O . I naravno, to ga ne sprecava da pokusava da radi dodge na 4 pa na 3 :D. Ovoga ipak nije htelo kao onog prethodnog, pa je pretezno padao dodge rollove. Doduse, od jedno 25 blokova koje je napravio na 1 kocku ili 2 protiv sebe, dobio je samo 1 8O attacker down, i to kada je bacao 2 kocke protiv sebe 8O .

Jedino sto mi se cini kao zamerka trenutno je malo (barem meni) nepregledan nacin "manage-ovanja" tima. I OK, preglednost je mozda mogla malo bolje da se osmisli. Npr. kada bi omogucili da imas razlicite nijanse na oklopu na rukama za svaku od pozicija, to bi vec bio dobar napredak.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo jos par partija i jos par negativnih iskustava (posto sam pozitivne poprilicno pobrojao):

1. Cini mi se da ljudi pomalo izbegavaju orkove i dwarfove. Mozda sam samo ja ubo pogresan dan poslednji put, ali u chatu je bilo X orkova i dwarfova koji (neuspesno) traze partiju.

2. Mnogo je lose uradjeno to sto kada neko ima lonere, ne vidis mu realnu vrednost tima. Pa mi se tako desilo vec 2 puta da protiv orkova igraju timovi koji su dosta jaci od mene, ali imaju 3 lonera - pa tako, tek kad prihvatim mec, vidim njihovu stvarnu vrednost i dobijem inducemente.

3. Nisu uradjeni svi inducementi... npr. nema goblina sa testerom za orkove.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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evo odigrah 100 utakmica u sreci i veselju, u jubilarnoj tekmi igrali moji parcovi sa orkovima, pobedili 3:0, i sakupio konacno pare za rat ogre-a

a sad malo brojki slova i utisaka sa odigranih utakmica :)
u 100 utakmica imao sam 62 pobede, 24 neresene, i 24 poraza. (da, znam, to je 110, valjda program ne racuna kada se neko diskonektuje ili preda mec). Posle 100 utakmica imam 14 idijota na listi za idijote (ignore), sto ce reci 14% igraca su idijoti, sto je neverovatno mali procenat za neku multiplayer igru (recimo pvp wow server ima oko 70% idjota, a pve server ima oko 35% istih). Isto vredi napomenuti da su najveci dilberi spanci, pa odma za njima amerikanci, dok recimo francuzi igraju sasvim fer i korektno, bez diskonekcija i sranja o tome kako ja varam.

Imam sve timove napravljene (sledi W,D,L)
Chaos: 11,7,7
Wood Elf: 18,2,4
Goblin: 6,6,6 :twisted:
Dwarf: 8,5,2
Human: 8,2,4
Orc: 6,2,0
Skaven: 3,0,0
Lizardmen: 2,0,1

Goblini mi idu najslabije, vrlo verovatno iz razloga sto nemaju bombasa (jednostavno ga nema), kao i buga po kome onaj sa ball&chain se sva 3 puta krece na onu stranu koju si prvo odredio, time ga cineci prakticno neupotrebljivim.
Na forumu ima kukanja oko svega i svacega, ali je cinjenica da zaista mnoge stvari nisu odradjene kako treba (ja lepo reko da treba da izadje na bozic, otprilike su morali odma da izdaju, a do bozica se moze ocekivati peglanje vecine skillova)
Za sada, na mene je jedino uticao bug kod bacanja lopte. Naime, ako igrac koji ima pass skill pri prvom pokusaju ne uspe da baci, on automatski pokusava drugi put. Naravno, drugi put je u mom slucaju bio fambl, a to mi bas nije odgovaralo, dok je neuspesan pas bio sasvim prihvatljiv. Koliko sam video, u trenutku kad je igra izbacena na trziste, jedini skill koji je radio kako treba je bio block 8O . Svi ostali su imali neku gresku (a polovina ih ima i dan danas), medjutim programeri se zaista trude da poprave sve to. Najveci problem su im do sada zadavale diskonekcije protivnika kada gube, kao i nedovoljna zastita fajlova, koja je omogucavala igracima da preprave tabelu povreda pre nego sto se mec zavede na serveru, kao i bug kod koga si mogao da napravis nov tim i das svim igracima koje god oces statove 8O 8O 8O . To sad fala bogu vise ne moze.
Medjutim, sve se to brzo zaboravi kad odigras neki mec sa odlicnim protivnikom, pun preokreta :D . I pored svih nedostataka, ovo je igra u kojoj cu uzivati jos mnogo, mnogo utakmica :)
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a evo i potpunog spiska skillova i gresaka:

Accurate: Does not work with Throw Team-mate skill.
Always Hungry: No bugs reported.
Ball & Chain: Not letting you pick direction every square of movement for normal movement (first square and GFI works correctly) also a conflict with Multi-block which should never work with this skill.
Big Hand: No bugs reported.
Block: No bugs reported.
Blood Lust: Not implemented.
Bombardier: Not implemented.
Bone-head: Incorrectly rolled for during Pass Block (counts for your roll on the next turn and your move has begun so you can't block, blitz or foul same as Shadow bug). Also asks if you want to use Dump-Off while boneheaded, but correctly does not use the skill.
Break Tackle: Game automatically uses this skill for you on the first dodge attempt you make, should be your choice.
Catch: No bugs reported.
Chainsaw: gives +3 to armor roll if you are tackled leaving TZ of chainsaw.
Claw/Claws: No bugs reported.
Dauntless: Player reported description is inaccurate. (Not verified)
Decay: Not implemented.
Dirty Player: Not adding assists before determining if DP is needed on armor (if you break armor with dice roll it applies to injury roll correctly). Also description only says it adds to armor roll (should be same as Might Blow Armor OR Injury).
Disturbing Presence: Adding to the difficulty instead of subtracting from the roll.
Diving Catch: No bugs reported. Testing shows it is working correctly including 2 DC canceling each other out.
Diving Tackle: Poorly implemented needs to have more information instead of just telling you player rolled a 4 use DT? Needs to be Player X with dodge skill rolled # on a dodge roll 2+... or Player X failed a dodge roll and the reroll was # on a dodge roll 2+ use DT? Also not correctly applying the -2 to the reroll and might not be stacking with Prehensile Tail.
Dodge: use of dodge should be optional (both when blocked or when dodging).
Dump-Off: Incorrectly prompts you for skill use while Really Stupid or Boneheaded but correctly does not actually use skill even if you say yes.
Extra Arms: Most other Catch, Intercept and Pick-Up ball skills and modifiers modify the difficulty of the roll and Extra Arms is adding 1 to the die roll, this means with high enough AG you can not fail to Catch or Pick-Up ball and with a low AG and/or significant negative modifiers you can automatically succeed on a 5+ instead of a 6+ (verified with Intercepting).
Fan Favorite: Not implemented.
Fend: No bugs reported although should be optional.
Foul Appearance: does not show the die roll for Foul Appearance it just says when it works (probably is rolling correctly) but no re-roll is being allowed (my player had Pro and I couldn't reroll).
Frenzy: Problem with counting movement when Blitzing and computer may crash when combined with a bouncing ball on the field.
Grab: Not optional (can't push people off field normally). Incorrectly working during a Blitz action (should only work for Blocks) except in regards to Side Step.
Guard: sometimes canceled by a Multi-Block bug.
Hail Mary Pass: Not working can only throw to end of passing ruler and perhaps treating the throw as a long bomb instead of just a 2+ inaccurate pass to anywhere on the field.
Horns: If you click to stand up (but before doing it) and then push the blitz button without moving any additional squares you get the +1 ST incorrectly.
Hypnotic Gaze: Not implemented.
Juggernaut: Not optional.
Jump-Up: No bugs reported.
Kick: Kick should be optional after the dice are rolled or at least show where the ball will land with and without kick so the player can choose.
Kick-Off Return: If used this skill cancels "High Kick" roll on kick-off table (you won't get to move anyone under the ball).
Leader: (not confirmed by me or on the list) Leader might be bypassing Loner roll.
Leap: No bugs reported. (checked out worked correctly with VLL, Shadow, Tentacles, and PT).
Loner: (not confirmed by me or on the list) Leader might be bypassing Loner roll.
Might Blow: Not optional and not counted when re-rolling with Piling On skill. Also I had it fail to work on the injury roll when I knocked down a player on defense using Block skill and breaking armor naturally.
Multiple Block: Can crash game if blocking non-adjacent opponents, incorrectly working with Ball and Chain (but also causes crash), canceling guard skill of the players blocked.
Nerves of Steel: Does not work with Throw Team-Mate.
No Hands: At least sometimes not working against AI on a Touchback result. Also AI will attempt to pick up ball with No Hands players (have seen a deathroller take the computer's first move to try to pick up the ball).
Pass: Not optional and not usable with Throw Team-Mate.
Pass Block: Might not be requiring Dodge rolls. Requiring Wild Animal (if you have it) roll to use (have not checked Really Stupid or Boneheaded yet) and that roll carries over to your next turn (if you fail your player starts his next turn unavailable). Also when failing a Wild Animal on a move action the turn before the pass block, the game moved my player automatically along the route I had chosen the turn before (moving 3 squares then going for it twice, not dodging when passing from TZs and ending up in an illegal position for Pass Block skill).
Piling On: Not working with Might Blow correctly.
Prehensile Tail: Possibly not stacking with Diving Tackle (increases difficulty it is working correctly). Two PT stack correctly (giving +2 difficulty) unless one of the players with them successfully Shadows then the second tail is canceled out.
Pro: Like regular rerolls can not be used to reroll a "success" also when used with a failed dodge roll if Pro also fails, the game prompts for a regular reroll for the Pro roll, if you say NO it gives you a new dodge roll and it should not. (I was able to confirm).
Really Stupid: Other stupid players give a +2 to the die roll for Really Stupid roll. Incorrectly rolled for during Pass Block (counts for your roll on the next turn and your move has begun so you can't block, blitz or foul same as Shadow bug). Also asks if you want to use Dump-Off while stupid, but correctly does not use the skill.
Regeneration: No bugs reported.
Right Stuff: If thrown before they have moved and fails to land but is uninjured may not take their turn.
Safe Throw: The AG roll is not displayed and the skill is not canceled by Very Long Legs.
Secret Weapon: If KO'ed no option is given for bribing Ref.
Shadowing: Still listed as a bug not able to use Pro skill and if you tackle the player you were shadowing it appears to count as if you moved on your next turn (thus you cannot block, blitz or foul). A shadowing roll incorrectly fails on a tie. Also a successful shadow cancels out a neighboring Prehensile Tail.
Side Step: Does not work correctly when chain-pushed.
Sneaky Git: No bugs reported.
Sprint: No bugs reported.
Stab: Not implemented.
Stakes: Not implemented.
Stand Firm: Not optional and works when prone.
Strip Ball: No bugs reported.
Strong Arm: Does not work with Throw Team-Mate.
Stunty: No bugs reported.
Sure Feet: No bugs reported.
Sure Hands: No bugs reported.
Tackle: Not optional (useful to Frenzy someone off the board).
Take Root: No bugs reported.
Tentacles: Not accepting Pro rolls.
Thick Skill: No bugs reported.
Throw Team-mate: Not working with Strong Arm, Accurate, Pass or Nerves of Steel.
Titchy: Not implemented.
Very Long Legs: Does not cancel Safe Throw. Also incorrectly reducing difficulty of an interception by 1 instead of adding 1 to the die roll (as Extra Arms does) which should not effect game play (because all other mods also are adjusting difficulty with the exception of Extra Arms).
Wild Animal: Incorrectly requiring a roll before using Pass Block skill and if that roll fails you lose your next turn as well. Also if you fail your roll the turn before you Pass Block then make your roll you try to execute the move you failed to carry out the turn before as if your MA was 3 (even if it is not a legal move for Pass Block).
Wrestle: No bugs reported.
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I jos: ne mozes da radis foul ako ti treba GFI da bi ga uradio.

Mislim da multiple block bug objasnjava kako mi se crashovala igra kada sam igrao (i vodio) protiv elfa (slinavi spanac je verovatno znao za foru, kao sto je i znao za foru da ja ne vidim njegov pravi rating kada prihvatam partiju)....

Kupovinom CD-a dobijate 2 licence. I nedao vam bog da vam recimo crkne hard, jer ste onda 1 aktivaciju potrosili. Gluplju zastitu u zivotu nisam video... Internet verziju ne mozes pa ne mozes da igras, jer imas poseban key za online igranje (one use only), te nije moguce sa 1 kljucem igrati na 2 masine u isto vreme, a hotseat ce biti krekovan, pa ce biti krekovan, samo pitanje kada. Ovakve idiJotske zastite zapravo ne stete piratima, nego onima koji su regularno kupili igru i imaju regularan problem. Takodje, kada uradite unistall igre, ne brise aktivaciju automatski, nego mora rucno. I ne vidim sta me sprecava da uradim kloniranje hard diska u 8653 primeraka, te samim tim "preskocim" ogranicenje na 2 licence. I ne vidim zasto ja ne mogu da imam recimo 10oro dece, 10 kompjutera i da hocu da se svi igraju hot seat sa 1 kupovinom CD-a... totalno kretenski.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ok momci,javite mi kad se vratite u stvaran svet,da se vidimo:)
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"Pa kako onda mirise?"
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Re: Izasao Blood Bowl

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diskonekcija protivnika u toku meca kad mu ne krene dobro - popravljeno skroz

ultra lag u lobiju gde trazis protivnike za tekme - popravljeno skroz, sada sve radi za milisekundu

mogucnost prepravljanja tabele sa povredama i kreiranje tima sa statovima kojim oces - popravljeno skroz

Bug koji uzrokuje da ti se tekma ne racuna ako padne njihov update server tokom meca, i da pritom jos i dobijes -reliability jer se racuna kao nezavrsena tekma - popravljen skroz (ovo sam saznao na tezi nacin, ja ubedjen da nista nece biti, krenuo bahato da se ponasam u mecu, i onda ne samo sto ispade nereseno, nego se i ispovredjivali moji igraci )

Moj parcovski tim posle skora od 7:0:0 (sedam pobeda), usao medju prvih 1000 timova :)
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Jos uvek imaju neki bugovi oko konekcije. Drugar i ja smo sinoc igrali, prvu partiju odigramo normalno, na drugoj ga server izbaci pred kraj, meni uracuna kao pobedu (pritom se zablokira cela igra i njemu i meni dok on nije konacno kliknuo na abandon match), treci put krenemo i u 1-2 krugu se desi isto sto i malo pre, prikaze mi kao da mi je dodelio pobedu 2-0, dobijene SPP, i ne uracuna partiju. Postoji mogucnost da je njemu neki antivirus ili neko cudo blokiralo neke portove, pa da je usled toga nastao problem. Provericemo veceras opet.

Dodao bih samo, jos jednom, da su spanci najvece ljige :D... medjutim, tvrdoglav kakav jesam, u nastojanju da dokazem sebi da nisu bas svi takvi, juce sam igrao samo protiv spanaca :D i evo rezultata:

partija 1: igram novonapravljeni wood elf tim, prvi krug, ubije mi linemana. Rekoh sebi, necu da budem slina ko oni, ajd da zavrsim partiju, pa cu obrisati tim. Malo sam odugovlacio kao da igram na sigurno, dam go u 3. krugu. Ide on, krece prvo na loptu :D - ne uhvati je: leap, dodge, blitz, pick-up, sledeci krug dodge, go :D. Onda je krenuo festival mojih keceva :D, tako da sam poluvreme zavrsio samo sa 2-0 za mene :D. Krece njegovo poluvreme, pravo na loptu, ne uhvati je, leap, dodge, blitz, pick-up :D, sledeci krug dodge, go :D. Pogodicete, sledi disconnect :D. Dobije mi wardancer nivo, i thrower, i posto sam dobio duple pare, ja odlucim da ne rastavim tim.

partija 2: ork, gotovo ista prica kao malopre, stim sto sam vec u prvom poluvremenu dao 3. go - disconnect :D.

partija 3: human, ista prica, ali ovaj je, eto, bio posten i odigrao je do kraja, cak nije ni kukao po chatu, lepo se na kraju zahvalio za partiju, razmenili smo tople pozdrave kako je utakmica bila super, itd. Izgubio je 4-0. Taj tim mi je usao u prvih 10.000 :oops: :D, sa 3 pobede 0 neresenih i 0 poraza.

Eto, dakle moze se povremeno naci i neki posteni spanac ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Re: Izasao Blood Bowl

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Gde igra ima da se kupi? i kakva je internet konekcija potrebna za igranje?
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Re: Izasao Blood Bowl

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Imas da kupis u games-u i na platou da ja znam. Cena je 3000 din. Mislim da sa bilo kakvim ADSL-om i / ili kablom radi bez frke, a vrlo verovatno da bi ti radilo cak i na dial up konekciji. Ja imam 1M ADSL i radi sve kako treba. Treba ti medjutim malo jaci komp da bi ti sve radilo kako treba (ono sto pise na igri kao minimum je realno i minimum - a bilo bi pozeljno i preko toga da imas).

Wood elfovi su mi dospeli na 2817. mesto 8O .... sa obzirom na to da sam od svih partija samo 1 imao cast da odigram do kraja... ostali su ili radili DC ili su morali da idu na posao, itd. :D.

I tako... sad mi se tim ekstra razvio, jer sam stalno dobijao duple pare, duple MVP igrace i po dva bonus TD svaki put.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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6. pobeda nas dovodi na 990. mesto ;). Neverovatno, ali ovu partiju je cak protivnik odigrao do kraja :mrgreen:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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E a da vi otvorite neki blog na facebooky npr:)
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Imam dobar komp tako da hardverska zahtevnost ne bi trebala predstavljati neki problem. E sad jos nesto da pitam video sam da se neki fan factor spominje, kako se to dobija i koju ulogu ima?? :)
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e to vec lepo odes na games workshop sajt, pa skines living rulebook 5.0 za blood bowl, pa procitas pravila, i sve ti bude odma jasno :). Fan factor mozes da kupis samo na pocetku pri pravljenju tima, a kasnije imas sansu da dobijes prakticno kad pobedis. Utice na neke rollove pri kickoff-u kao i na pare koje dobijas posle utakmice.

Zabagovanje igre izgleda moze da se desi prilikom tabovanja iz igre, kao i ako ti neki drugi program radi u pozadini.

Parcovi 8 pobeda, 1 neresena, 0 poraza, 654 mesto :)
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Nisam se tabovao, ne radi mi nista osim pinga u pozadini (koji jede 0 resursa). Tabujem se iskljucivo izmedju partija.

Moji wood elfi su popili 2 poraza (2 keca, re roll 2 keca, novi krug 2 keca re roll 2 keca 8O ; a u drugoj partiji mi je pobio u prvom krugu 2 igraca (ni apotekar nije pomogao) i tu je poprilicno bilo izgubljeno :D.... sad sam na nekom bijednom 4000. mestu :D).

Primetio sam i da ljudi koji igraju u nocnim casovima imaju manju tendenciju da se diskonektuju (predpostavljam da u prepodnevnim casovima pretezno igraju klinci... ili ljudi koji su na neki drugi nacin mentally challandged :D).

Konacno sam ukapirao i kako moze da se gleda rang lista, i ono... prilicno sam siguran da je 99% top 50 ljudi (a verovatno i sire) namesteno. Prosto je nemoguce da imas 40 pobeda i 1 izgubljenu... teoretski je nemoguce da ti se barem u svakoj 10. partiji ne desi losa sreca da izgubis (ili barem igras nereseno). Tako da to malo umanjuje moju zelju da udjem u top-bilo-koliko :? .

PS: Danas sam odigrao preko 10 partija :oops: :D (igrao sam mozda nekih bednih 14-15 sati :D). I sada su mi svi timovi lepo sareno razvijeni :D.

edit: dobro Stevane, jel ti Nikola i ja licimo na ljude koji imaju facebook nalog? :D :P
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Nego, igra li jos neko sa foruma, osim nas dvojce ociglednih :D, blood bowl-a online? Ako da, mozemo da kreiramo neku ligu, pa da bude jos interesantnije ;).

Vidjao sam po chatu neka imena koja su "nasa" ali nikada ne stignem da uradim invite blagovremeno :(.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Usled nepostojeceg odgovora na prethodno pitanje moracu jos malo da promovisem igru :D :P....

Skavenski tim, koji mi se razvija bolje nego kada bih birao svaki roll za level (accurate, +AG thrower, 1turn TD gutter runner, itd.) mi je jednostavno UKLET...

a) dakle sa tim 1turn TD gutterom jos nisam uspeo da dam gol u jednom krugu :) (bez dodgeva, bez icega, samo da uhvati loptu i uradi 3 GFI - sve to sa 1 RR)

b) u zadnjih jedno pet partija nisam uspeo da zavrsim utakmicu sa preko 5 igraca na terenu (i ne, ne idem da se bijem sa skavenima :D). Gotovo svaki injury roll koji mi naprave mora da bude barem KO. A onaj koji ode u KO, taj se ne vraca :D.

c) i dalje imaju problem: kada mene bas nece, protivnika ide osrednje, kada mene ide osrednje, protivnika kenja... mene nikada ne kenja sa njima :D (mislim da sve pozitivne rollove iskoriste na levele :D :D :D).

Sa druge strane lizardi mi jako lepo napreduju (5-2-0)... dobio sam skinka sa block i snagom, kroxu sa guard i duple sestice (ali sam uzeo block, vise mi treba sigurnost pri blitzu koji povremeno radim), imam jos jednog skinka sa block i tako ;).

Ali!

Sve to nije kao kada bi se jos vas, prekaljenih BB igraca, odlucilo da se pridruzi maniji ;) (do sada sam odigrao svega 38 partija :oops: :oops: :oops: )

edit: i moram dodati da je potraga za igracima postala DALEKO laksa od kada sam provalio foru sa sortiranjem - u search opciji ubacite samo minimalni i maksimalni team value (ja obicno stavim +- 100 u odnosu na moj TR), i od ponudjenih odaberete sta vam se svidja. Puno ljudi nece da se oglasi u glavnom chatu zbog previse budala koje ti ponude da igras mec sa 500 TR manjim od njih ili podese 40 sec krug (pa ko ne obrati paznju izjebe se najstrasnije), isl.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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par pitanja: da li je mogucje igrati u hot seat-u, i da li je mogucje praviti turnire u istom??
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Hot seat postoji (opcija da se igraju 2 igraca na 1 kompu), ali koliko ja znam samo sa pregenerisanim timovima (kompjuterskim) koji se koriste u single player kampanji kao tvoji protivnici. Moguce je da gresim, jer nisam previse cackao ne-online opcije ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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turnire i lige nije moguce praviti hotseat, to samo radi preko neta. Nisam ni ja cackao ali cini mi se da postoji mogucnost da namestis hot seat da igraju timovi koji ti hoces, sa igracima kojim ti hoces i sa skilovima kojim hoces, tako da je verovatno moguce praviti neku kombinaciju gde se sva propratna desavanja vezana za levelovanje itd obavljaju rucno, a sama igra ide na kompu
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"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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Ddoao bih samo da je konacno uradjen sistem koji prikazuje poslednje odigrane partije... pa sam danas tako odmah ubacio jos dvojcu na black list, posto je cak i teoretski nemoguce da gobli protiv haosa igra 7-9 ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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