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Re: Rumori
translated from German
He says that he has seen the book. Woodelves get both prowess rules as long they are inside of a wood... asf also.
Attribute of high magic gives one additional wound to the caster or unit he is in.
Attribute of dark magic is: place a counter for each successfull hex-spell on an enemy unit. Unit will eceive 1d3 additional hits per counter when hit by a subsequent damage-spell.
Few new infos from tabletopwelt.de (user with aproximatly 1000 posts so credible?)
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/index.php?/t ... 25/page-56
No more spites for characters as no more kindreds.
Most units can be equipped with magical arrows, allowing to shoot twice, flaming attacks, poisoned, armour piercing -3.
armour piercing for all bows every time.
Regular treeman is about the cost of a hellpit, little less. Ancient is about a hellpit and one and some rat ogres.
10 magical items confirmed.
Bow of loren is in. Arrow which does 3d6 shots is still in (but dont know the rules for it)
moonstone is in.
2 magical banners.
Dryads are strength 3 and have hatred
Wardancers seem to remain unchanged in costs and profile but get dances: +1 A, armourpiercing, killin blow, +3 ward save, enemy unit wont get ranks
Magical banners give MR (3) and once for a turn unbreakable
other one: vanguard and reroll first charge roll.
New archer hero slot: waystalker with dhw(this time dhw for real )
Branchwraith is the same ruleswise.
via herohammer
some stuff from the German thread I haven't seen here.
The magic item list (no idea what has changed on some of the items the German guy didn't post it)
Spirit sword
Daith's rapier
Bow of Loren
Helm of the hunt
Acorn of eternity ( old item from 5th edition. It makes a forest if I remember correctly)
Moonstone of hidden ways
Hail of doom arrow
Some wand (wand of wytch elm?)
Banner of midwinter (same unbreakable until EoT one time only ability also now grants mr3)
A new banner that gives vanguard and extra charge distance n first charge of the game ( I think someone already posted this on above)
Dryads and the new wildwood rangers are both the same point cost and are 1/2 slave cheaper than the current cost of a glade guard. Glade guard same cost. Basic tree man is old treeman - 2 trolls + 5 slaves in cost. Ancient is old ancient - troll in cost and still is s6. Basic treeman is s5
Also unit list
Lords:
Glade lord
Spell weaver
Treeman ancient
Shadow dancer
Heroes:
Noble
Spellsinger
Branch wraith
Way watcher hero (not sure on name)
Core:
Glade guard
Eternal guard
Dryads
Glade riders
Special:
War dancers
War hawk riders
Wild riders
Tree kin
Maidens of the thorn (or whatever they are called)
Wildwood rangers
Scouts (scouting skirmishing glade guard. Used to be an upgrade in core)
Rare:
Treeman
Eagle
Way watchers.
With only 3 units in rare it seems really barren but the German guy is sure the sisters/maidens/whatever are in special
He says that he has seen the book. Woodelves get both prowess rules as long they are inside of a wood... asf also.
Attribute of high magic gives one additional wound to the caster or unit he is in.
Attribute of dark magic is: place a counter for each successfull hex-spell on an enemy unit. Unit will eceive 1d3 additional hits per counter when hit by a subsequent damage-spell.
Few new infos from tabletopwelt.de (user with aproximatly 1000 posts so credible?)
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/index.php?/t ... 25/page-56
No more spites for characters as no more kindreds.
Most units can be equipped with magical arrows, allowing to shoot twice, flaming attacks, poisoned, armour piercing -3.
armour piercing for all bows every time.
Regular treeman is about the cost of a hellpit, little less. Ancient is about a hellpit and one and some rat ogres.
10 magical items confirmed.
Bow of loren is in. Arrow which does 3d6 shots is still in (but dont know the rules for it)
moonstone is in.
2 magical banners.
Dryads are strength 3 and have hatred
Wardancers seem to remain unchanged in costs and profile but get dances: +1 A, armourpiercing, killin blow, +3 ward save, enemy unit wont get ranks
Magical banners give MR (3) and once for a turn unbreakable
other one: vanguard and reroll first charge roll.
New archer hero slot: waystalker with dhw(this time dhw for real )
Branchwraith is the same ruleswise.
via herohammer
some stuff from the German thread I haven't seen here.
The magic item list (no idea what has changed on some of the items the German guy didn't post it)
Spirit sword
Daith's rapier
Bow of Loren
Helm of the hunt
Acorn of eternity ( old item from 5th edition. It makes a forest if I remember correctly)
Moonstone of hidden ways
Hail of doom arrow
Some wand (wand of wytch elm?)
Banner of midwinter (same unbreakable until EoT one time only ability also now grants mr3)
A new banner that gives vanguard and extra charge distance n first charge of the game ( I think someone already posted this on above)
Dryads and the new wildwood rangers are both the same point cost and are 1/2 slave cheaper than the current cost of a glade guard. Glade guard same cost. Basic tree man is old treeman - 2 trolls + 5 slaves in cost. Ancient is old ancient - troll in cost and still is s6. Basic treeman is s5
Also unit list
Lords:
Glade lord
Spell weaver
Treeman ancient
Shadow dancer
Heroes:
Noble
Spellsinger
Branch wraith
Way watcher hero (not sure on name)
Core:
Glade guard
Eternal guard
Dryads
Glade riders
Special:
War dancers
War hawk riders
Wild riders
Tree kin
Maidens of the thorn (or whatever they are called)
Wildwood rangers
Scouts (scouting skirmishing glade guard. Used to be an upgrade in core)
Rare:
Treeman
Eagle
Way watchers.
With only 3 units in rare it seems really barren but the German guy is sure the sisters/maidens/whatever are in special
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Re: Rumori
Ima tu još dosta rumora sa warseera ali treba da se copy pastuju.
Way watcheri možda imaju ili dva pucanja ili no armour pucanje. Biraju po fazi. To je rumor. Isto puno su smanjeni u ceni. Eto ti Ota rešenje za tih 5 haos viteza. Ili AP(3) glade guarda ili no AS pucanje od waywatchera. Nisam siguran kako ovo kupovanje strela radi i tačno koje jedinice mogu da kupuje strele, ali nešto mi je čudno da waywatcheri imaju no AS i da kupe još neke strele, kao što je poison ili bez minusa da pucaju.
Way watcheri možda imaju ili dva pucanja ili no armour pucanje. Biraju po fazi. To je rumor. Isto puno su smanjeni u ceni. Eto ti Ota rešenje za tih 5 haos viteza. Ili AP(3) glade guarda ili no AS pucanje od waywatchera. Nisam siguran kako ovo kupovanje strela radi i tačno koje jedinice mogu da kupuje strele, ali nešto mi je čudno da waywatcheri imaju no AS i da kupe još neke strele, kao što je poison ili bez minusa da pucaju.
Re: Rumori
Eternal Guard: S3, 1A, Stubborn
Arrows: Witch's Curse: Poison.
Moonfire: +1 to wound against Order
Fast: 2 Shoots
Precise: No negatives to shooting
Razor: AP -3
Starfire: +1 to wound against Destruction
Special Rules: Forest Stalker: Forest Striders, and, in forest: fight with an additional rank, shoot with an additional rank, and reroll 1s to wound on Close combat
Blessing of the Ancients: +1 Caster level in forests
Forest Spirit: Ward Save 6++ and ItP.
Place Forest: Citadel Forest, in your half of the table
Kurnous: Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Tattoos, Fast
Weaponry: Asrai Bow, S3 AP. Javelin, 12", AP and Poison. Spears: basic spear (on foot and mounted), AP.
Sisters, WS 4++, javelins, same than warlocks, Shield of thorns and Curse. Poison. Deers of ISha...1A S4. The kurnous ride Deers of kurnous...1A S4.
Rangers, GW, +1A vs fear and terror, S3. ItP
Shadowdancer is a hero, Shadow lore.
Hawks with Killing blow on charge, and AP both rider and mount.
Waywatchers: 2 shooting modes: First is rapid fire... Multiple shoots (2). Second is Accurate shooting. Ignore armor.
Only Aedas (the lord level mage) use High and Dark Magic.
Nobles and Trueborns have the rule arrow of Kuronus... If the enemy general is at 36" and in a straight line, before the game he receives a single S3 strike that ignores armor
Treeman S5, 5A. Upgrades such as strangle. Ancient only 3A, level 2 life.
Dancers, the already mentioned dances.
Lore rules, the already mentioned ones.
Dryads are not skirmishers, S3 and hatred
Arrows: Witch's Curse: Poison.
Moonfire: +1 to wound against Order
Fast: 2 Shoots
Precise: No negatives to shooting
Razor: AP -3
Starfire: +1 to wound against Destruction
Special Rules: Forest Stalker: Forest Striders, and, in forest: fight with an additional rank, shoot with an additional rank, and reroll 1s to wound on Close combat
Blessing of the Ancients: +1 Caster level in forests
Forest Spirit: Ward Save 6++ and ItP.
Place Forest: Citadel Forest, in your half of the table
Kurnous: Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Tattoos, Fast
Weaponry: Asrai Bow, S3 AP. Javelin, 12", AP and Poison. Spears: basic spear (on foot and mounted), AP.
Sisters, WS 4++, javelins, same than warlocks, Shield of thorns and Curse. Poison. Deers of ISha...1A S4. The kurnous ride Deers of kurnous...1A S4.
Rangers, GW, +1A vs fear and terror, S3. ItP
Shadowdancer is a hero, Shadow lore.
Hawks with Killing blow on charge, and AP both rider and mount.
Waywatchers: 2 shooting modes: First is rapid fire... Multiple shoots (2). Second is Accurate shooting. Ignore armor.
Only Aedas (the lord level mage) use High and Dark Magic.
Nobles and Trueborns have the rule arrow of Kuronus... If the enemy general is at 36" and in a straight line, before the game he receives a single S3 strike that ignores armor
Treeman S5, 5A. Upgrades such as strangle. Ancient only 3A, level 2 life.
Dancers, the already mentioned dances.
Lore rules, the already mentioned ones.
Dryads are not skirmishers, S3 and hatred
Re: Rumori
Pa koliko vidim ako ne stigneš do njih napucaće te najstrašnije na svetu.
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Re: Rumori
Pa ne znam bas.. Ko ima bilo kakav mortar/velika pita ili boltere manje vise uvek pobedjuje.. kao sto je i ranije.
Postavis sve na ivicu i dobijas ih uvek zbog range.. Simpa je kada WE mora da ide ka tebi.
Naravno..to je za turnirsku igru. :P
Postavis sve na ivicu i dobijas ih uvek zbog range.. Simpa je kada WE mora da ide ka tebi.
Naravno..to je za turnirsku igru. :P
Re: Rumori
Opasne boltere imaju samo HE a kad si video zadnji put neki mortar?
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Re: Rumori
Možda. Neke stvari će još uvek da stignu do njih i ako stignu da ih pregaze ko siroče. Ili poison strele, ili -3 armour. Waywatcheri imaju rešenje za oklop pa onda te strele da budu poison? Kako rešiti monstrume? Ti rangeri su kao zamišljeni da ubiju monstere ali pre će biti obrnuto. Ostaje koja magija da se koristi? Shadow mi uz sve to pucanje zvuči mnogo primamljivo. Verujem da će kombat elementi imati ulogu u vojsci, ali samo ako ostane poena posle uzimanje strelaca i brzih elelemnta. Mislim da će da bude kao DE knjiga, liči jaka ali se sve to teško uklopi u 2400 peona.
Nikad u životu nisam bio ovako uzbuđen o knjizi, ne mogu da sačekam nikako, a daleko je.
Bolteri na sreću imaju samo 2 rane, samo su 2 sestice potrebne ovde. Ili ovaj poison. Imaš cover od šume od boltera i naravno screenovi za strelce. Možda i way watcheri koje bolteri pogađaju na 7 u šumi.
Nikad u životu nisam bio ovako uzbuđen o knjizi, ne mogu da sačekam nikako, a daleko je.
Bolteri na sreću imaju samo 2 rane, samo su 2 sestice potrebne ovde. Ili ovaj poison. Imaš cover od šume od boltera i naravno screenovi za strelce. Možda i way watcheri koje bolteri pogađaju na 7 u šumi.
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Re: Rumori
Pa...valjda su svi beskonacno jeftiniji. Mozda ne biju/pucaju toliko kao pre...ali ce ih valjda biti mnogo vise na stolu. Besmisleno je da 20 glade guarde sa full komandom kosta 270 poena...zar ne?
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Re: Rumori
Koliko ja znam i dark elfovi imaju iste takve boltere..
Kada sam rekao mortar mislio sam sve sto je u fazonu stone thrower-a. Znaci imperija, orci, patuljci, skaveni, ogrevi, tomb kings, chaos demoni, chaos patuljci, chaos warriori. Sve moze da izvede 2/3+ komada sto ih napucava sa ivice table.
Hocu da kazem dok se ne promene pravila ili njihova knjiga i playstyle generalno - oni apsolutno nemaju sta da traze u turnirskom okruzenju.
Kada sam rekao mortar mislio sam sve sto je u fazonu stone thrower-a. Znaci imperija, orci, patuljci, skaveni, ogrevi, tomb kings, chaos demoni, chaos patuljci, chaos warriori. Sve moze da izvede 2/3+ komada sto ih napucava sa ivice table.
Hocu da kazem dok se ne promene pravila ili njihova knjiga i playstyle generalno - oni apsolutno nemaju sta da traze u turnirskom okruzenju.
Re: Rumori
Pa i ne, ako poredimo sa drugima. Npr. imperijalni pucaci su ~9 poena komad, ovi su 12 poena komad. Imperija ima manji domet za 6", ima manji BS (da ne ulazim i u ostale statove), i ima penal kada se krece i puca. Ako dobro koristis te WE strelce, ti imas za 2 vecu balistiku stalno. Sto je 33% vise hitova. 9 imperijalnih poena + 33% = 12 poena od wood elfa. Wood elf pride dobije AP kada je ispod 15", veci WS, I, LD, i sve ostale statove.Pa...valjda su svi beskonacno jeftiniji. Mozda ne biju/pucaju toliko kao pre...ali ce ih valjda biti mnogo vise na stolu. Besmisleno je da 20 glade guarde sa full komandom kosta 270 poena...zar ne?
Naravno, ne ulazim u ostatak liste, i koje opcije imaju jedni i drugi. Samo kazem da, gledadano poen-na-poen, ti WE strelci uopste nisu skupi.
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Re: Rumori
Pa po ovome mogu da zamislim da su šumski vilovnjaci postali upravo to što treba da budu, lake jedinice koje skakuću po šumi i napucavaju sve živo uz pomoć malo šumske magije, živog drveća i tako to.
Mala pita snage tri i to ako pogodi nije neki meseršmits.
Mala pita snage tri i to ako pogodi nije neki meseršmits.
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Re: Rumori
I naravno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBkXJk_UV7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBkXJk_UV7M
Protiv golog vilenjaka iz sume i jeste. \:D/No 1 wrote: Mala pita snage tri i to ako pogodi nije neki meseršmits.
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Re: Rumori
Ako dodatne strele koštaju 3-5 poena, ti wood elf strelci mogu da budu do 17 poena. 20 sa komandom je onda 370. Kada izađe knjiga ima da se vidi jel su dobri ili nisu, ali verujem da će pre da se vode glade rideri ako imaju iste lukove. Mislim da će biti jaki protiv vojske koje imaju mali broj jakih jedinica, ali da će da budu slabi protiv horda ili drugih pucačkih vojska. Zavisi. Možda imaju rešenje za sve situaciju, samo treba usmeriti određenu jedinicu gde treba da ide, ili skontatni pravi izbopr magije. Biće puno mozganja, ali verujem da postoji par listi koje će biti dobre turnirske liste.
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Re: Rumori
a zar nisu sumski vilenjaci uvek bili lake jedinice koje idu oko tebe i napucavaju te? Ah, da, ima nekih i koji hoce da se biju
iz mog iskustva sumenjaci su najbolji kad ih ima sto manje po jedinici, i po mogucstvu da kostaju sto je moguce manje. Mada to i bas nije warhammer fantasy, vise mu dodje kao 40k. Po ovim pisanjima, izgleda da su resili da vam izbiju iz glave i pomisao da oni mogu da idu u hth
iz mog iskustva sumenjaci su najbolji kad ih ima sto manje po jedinici, i po mogucstvu da kostaju sto je moguce manje. Mada to i bas nije warhammer fantasy, vise mu dodje kao 40k. Po ovim pisanjima, izgleda da su resili da vam izbiju iz glave i pomisao da oni mogu da idu u hth
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Re: Rumori
Negde sam pročitao da treeman ima unbreakable ako mu se ne nanese rana.
Inače mislim da si upravu sa idejom za male jedinice.
Inače mislim da si upravu sa idejom za male jedinice.
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Re: Rumori
Nova pravila za wood elfove :
New Wood Elves rules summary
Special Rules:
Kurnous' Arrow: [Lords and Heroes] If enemy general is within 36" and LoS at start of game, one auto S3 no AS hit
Asrai Bows: S3 AP (Glade Guard, Glade Riders, Scouts, Warhawk Riders, Waywatchers, Glade Lord, Glade Captain, and Waystalker)
Asrai Spears: S3 AP Spears
Ancient's Blessings: +1 to cast in woods [ Not sure who has this rule)
No Spites or Kindreds [ Waywatcher and Wardancer Kindreds have been hard-coded as a unique hero type now ]
Magic Arrows: Upgrade to units. Can be 1 of: poison, flaming and +1W order OR destruction, AP (-3), multi-shot, ignore shooting modifiers
Dual Prowess: WE get BOTH Prowess rules when >=50% of unit is in woods. (reroll 1's to wound only for cc, fight and shoot in extra rank)
Free Forest: Citadel woods in your half(!) of table [a la garden or morr and unlike old WE AB], you choose the type (i.e. Wildwood, venom thicket, etc)
Forest Spirits: 6++, ItP
Strangeroots - 12", d6+1 S5 hits. 10 slave upgrade to Treeman/Treeman Ancient
Magic:
Access to all 8 BRB lores, plus High and Dark magic, with unique lore attributes. High magic is "+1W" [ probably just heal wound] on caster or unit; dark magic is +1 token to enemy unit per hex cast on it. when taking damage from spell, take +1D3 hits per token.
Magic Arrows: (Taken on Glade Guard, Glade Riders, Deepwood Scouts, Glade Lords, Glade Captains only) [cost are for GG] [only 1/unit or model] [characters can have 1, independent from magic item allowance]
Curse of the Witch: Poison (1.5 Slaves)
Moonfire: +1 to wound Forces of Order, Flaming (2 Slaves)
Starfire: +1 to wound Forces of Destruction, Flaming (2 Slaves)
Swift: Multiple Shots (2 Slaves)
Accurate: No to hit modifiers (2 Slaves)
Bodkins: AP(-3) (2.5 slaves)
Magic Items:
1. Soulblade: No armor save allowed. If a char/monster suffers unsaved wound, both roll 2d6 add morale. If wielder wins, difference is translated into wounds with no armor saves allowed. [>25 slaves]
2. Daith's Spear: reroll failed hits and wounds and enemy rerolls passed armor saves. [25 slaves]
3. Helm of the Hunt: +1 armor, devastating charge, +1WS
4. Bow of Loren: armor pen, number of shots=A+1, no magic arrows
5. Acorn of Eternity (makes d3 forests; you choose type; must all be the same) [50 slaves]
6. Moonstone of Hidden Ways: unit in forest and out of combat may transfer into another forest
7. Hail of Doom Arrow: 3d6 armor penetrating S4 shots
8. Wand of Wych Elm [treesinging bound spell; only arcane item; only way to access treesinging]
9. Banner of Midwinter (MR3; Unbreakable for a Turn)
10. Banner. Vanguard and extra charge distance on first charge of the game
Units:
SPECIAL CHARACTERS:
Durthu
Aralorn
Orion (300 slaves)
Drycha (Lore of Shadow)
Naestra & Arahan
LORDS:
Glade Lord (Maybe take magic arrows)
Spellsinger (May use 8 BRB lores or High / Dark)
Treeman Ancient (may not take items) (lore of life only; base Level 2; may be upgraded to L4)
HEROES:
Glade Captain (May take magic arrows)
Spellsinger (May not use High / Dark)
Branchwraith (Lore of Beasts/Life; Wizard Level 0-1, may not take items)
Waystalker (Sniper, 25pts magic items)
Shadowdancer (Shadow Dances, 25pts magic items, Can be upgraded to L1 shadow)
CORE:
Eternal Guard (WS5 LD9 elves, Spear, LA, Stubborn, 5 slaves w shield upgrade) [25pt banner]
Glade Guard (same pts as before, can take magic arrows, scouts now a separate unit) [25pt banner]
Glade Riders (9.5/10 slaves, may take magic arrows) [25pt banner]
Dryads (S3, Frenzy, no Skirmishing, no musician or standard, 10+ unit size, 5.5 slaves)
SPECIAL:
Warhawk Riders (Both Riders and Steeds AP, KB on charge for hawk [same cost as treekin; 20 slaves) [now 3W]
Wild Riders (Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Fast Cavalry, Talismanic Tattoos) [50pt banner]
Deepwood Scouts (GG with Scout and Skirmisher)
Treekin (S4)
Sisters of the Thorn (13 slaves) [50pt banner]
Wardancers (Dances: 3++, KB, +1A, break ranks; no +1S on charge, 6+ AS, no std, 7.5 slaves, can swap AHW for asrai spears for 0.5 slaves)
Wildwood Rangers [25pt banner] WS5 S3 LD9 elves, AP GWs, +1A for models in btb with fear/terror-causer
RARE:
Great Eagles (Can be taken in units now; no upgrades)
Treeman (112.5 slaves, S5, Strangleroot for 10 slaves)
Waywatchers (can either double-shot or ignore AS every time for shooting, 10 slaves)
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Re: Rumori
Samo da maltretiram Bogdana - upravo listam Wood Elves knjigu. Nije losa :D
P.S. Za sada Trimeni samo Stubborn - nisu "Nesalomivi"
P.S. Za sada Trimeni samo Stubborn - nisu "Nesalomivi"
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Re: Rumori
Neko nasao novu WE knjigu na netu? Prosledite link. :D
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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E Otoviću, samo me stavljaš u muke. Barem reci šta ti se tačno čini da nije loše? I jel treekini imaju hatred? Jel su rumori tačni do sada?Ota wrote:Samo da maltretiram Bogdana - upravo listam Wood Elves knjigu. Nije losa :D
P.S. Za sada Trimeni samo Stubborn - nisu "Nesalomivi"
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Knjigu sam kupio na Ipad-u, danas je izasla. Tako da Pero jos je nema na netu.
Vecina rumora je tacna, ali evo ovako po meni najznacajnije stvari:
Strelci - bogovi, znaci hvala bogu da ih imam stotinak, nisam za sada nigde nasao da je ogranicen broj jedinica koje mogu da upgrade-uju strele. Znaci da ne duzim - zlo i naopako.
Drajade - Krs, sve je isto poen manje, ali snaga 3 nisu skirmis i naravno sada jebeni sejv na 6++, bolje da im je ostao spirit save na 5+.
Glade Riders - super 19 poena a mogu i oni da dokupe strele, LELE KOLKO PUCANJA!! Da imaju i infiltraciju iz 40K samo na steroidima. Pocev od 2 kruga dolaze na 3+ pise mogu doci sa bilo koje ivice stola, nadam se da je to random (ne pise u knjizi - mozda ima negde u osnovnoj) u protivnom su bogovi.
Eternal Guard - nista novo - obicni kopljanici sa stabornom ako uzmu stit 12poena su komad, nece se ljudi nagledati istih na tabli osim u nekim ekstremno prijateljskim partijama.
Wilwood rendzeri - nova jedinica. OK je s'obzirom na broj fear-a u igri. Znaci protiv svega sto siri fear ili terror +1napad, inace radi se ws5 elfu sa dvorukim oruzjem - nije lose.
Wardancer-i OK su i dalje radi sve kao i pre, samo nemaju +1ST kada jurisaju, ali to je to, da mogi iz nekog razloga da koriste (da im se dokupi za poen) koplje 8O
Trikini - KRS nema hatred-a ni u najavi, sve u svemu jedna od gorih MI u igri, meh modeli su krs tako da je to OK.
Skauti i WH Rider-i - nisu vredni pisanja, nisu ni toliko losi ali ja ih necu igrati sigurno, tako da KRS kategorija za njih :D
Sisters Of The Thorn Lepe figure, nista specijalno, ali kod mene ima da budu u svakoj listi samo zbog izgleda, a i nisu preskupe u poenima 26pts.
Wild Riders - onako, dodatni napad prilikom jurisa Fast Cav. a mogu da uzmu stit za 4+ oklop OK su - nove figure ih cine obaveznim za mene :D
Great Igles - nista novo.
Waywatchers - BOGOVI biraju pre pucanja 2 moda ili 2* shot, ili No AS !!! WOW bogovi su stigli pogotovo kada nikakva im je konkurencija za rare choice. Jeeeej i jos da napomenem jeftiniji su nego u prosloj knjizi (sada su 20 poena).
Trimen Krs na kvadrat, staborn je na 9 i to je to - sve ostalo je gore negoli u prosloj knizi, da koji poen je jeftiniji, ali ako mu se uzme da moze da puca (d6 +1) pucanj snage 5 dometa 12" kosta maltene isto - sve u svemu WAYWATCHERS su BOGOVI i to je to.
Eto to su neki prvi utisci (samo sam preleteo po knjizi), uglavnom ima da napucamo sada i Skavene i Imperiju zajedno - tesko njima hehehe!!
Vecina rumora je tacna, ali evo ovako po meni najznacajnije stvari:
Strelci - bogovi, znaci hvala bogu da ih imam stotinak, nisam za sada nigde nasao da je ogranicen broj jedinica koje mogu da upgrade-uju strele. Znaci da ne duzim - zlo i naopako.
Drajade - Krs, sve je isto poen manje, ali snaga 3 nisu skirmis i naravno sada jebeni sejv na 6++, bolje da im je ostao spirit save na 5+.
Glade Riders - super 19 poena a mogu i oni da dokupe strele, LELE KOLKO PUCANJA!! Da imaju i infiltraciju iz 40K samo na steroidima. Pocev od 2 kruga dolaze na 3+ pise mogu doci sa bilo koje ivice stola, nadam se da je to random (ne pise u knjizi - mozda ima negde u osnovnoj) u protivnom su bogovi.
Eternal Guard - nista novo - obicni kopljanici sa stabornom ako uzmu stit 12poena su komad, nece se ljudi nagledati istih na tabli osim u nekim ekstremno prijateljskim partijama.
Wilwood rendzeri - nova jedinica. OK je s'obzirom na broj fear-a u igri. Znaci protiv svega sto siri fear ili terror +1napad, inace radi se ws5 elfu sa dvorukim oruzjem - nije lose.
Wardancer-i OK su i dalje radi sve kao i pre, samo nemaju +1ST kada jurisaju, ali to je to, da mogi iz nekog razloga da koriste (da im se dokupi za poen) koplje 8O
Trikini - KRS nema hatred-a ni u najavi, sve u svemu jedna od gorih MI u igri, meh modeli su krs tako da je to OK.
Skauti i WH Rider-i - nisu vredni pisanja, nisu ni toliko losi ali ja ih necu igrati sigurno, tako da KRS kategorija za njih :D
Sisters Of The Thorn Lepe figure, nista specijalno, ali kod mene ima da budu u svakoj listi samo zbog izgleda, a i nisu preskupe u poenima 26pts.
Wild Riders - onako, dodatni napad prilikom jurisa Fast Cav. a mogu da uzmu stit za 4+ oklop OK su - nove figure ih cine obaveznim za mene :D
Great Igles - nista novo.
Waywatchers - BOGOVI biraju pre pucanja 2 moda ili 2* shot, ili No AS !!! WOW bogovi su stigli pogotovo kada nikakva im je konkurencija za rare choice. Jeeeej i jos da napomenem jeftiniji su nego u prosloj knjizi (sada su 20 poena).
Trimen Krs na kvadrat, staborn je na 9 i to je to - sve ostalo je gore negoli u prosloj knizi, da koji poen je jeftiniji, ali ako mu se uzme da moze da puca (d6 +1) pucanj snage 5 dometa 12" kosta maltene isto - sve u svemu WAYWATCHERS su BOGOVI i to je to.
Eto to su neki prvi utisci (samo sam preleteo po knjizi), uglavnom ima da napucamo sada i Skavene i Imperiju zajedno - tesko njima hehehe!!
Djenrale uzalud te traze,
cuvaju te sve bozije straze.
cuvaju te sve bozije straze.
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Dosla zima, Forest Spirite u fioku, a iz naftalina sve viljenake. :D
Mislim da All-Elven lista radi sasvim fino, a moze i kompetitivno.
Mislim da All-Elven lista radi sasvim fino, a moze i kompetitivno.
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Dobro, vidim dali su mu sve sto su mogli :D
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Koja zver, 6 A, WS7, S7+1, D3 rana 8O
Cena prava sitnica...1000 poena 8O 8O 8O
Cena prava sitnica...1000 poena 8O 8O 8O
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HE zmaj ima slicne karakteristike, ne bih rekao da su one nesto sto ga izdvaja po poenima. To ce pre biti njegova specijalna pravilaMyth wrote:Koja zver, 6 A, WS7, S7+1, D3 rana 8O
Cena prava sitnica...1000 poena 8O 8O 8O
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+ thunderstomp snage 7Myth wrote:Koja zver, 6 A, WS7, S7+1, D3 rana 8O
Cena prava sitnica...1000 poena 8O 8O 8O
Cim izadje model igramo partiju sa njim da probamo.
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Uf kakav je. Ali i treba da bude! Snaga mu je u tome što baca 10 kocke na jedan spell koji tre ba da mu prođe taj potez, a miscast skoro pa i ignoriše.
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Takodjer, Lv5 je i zna 9 spelova.
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I neki lore of undeath gde se summonuju jedinice..... zvuči kao onaj demonski iz 40k.
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- PeraNekron
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Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Eto nama saveznika i u fantaziju.
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
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cek,cek da vidis kad bude legalno recimo 10 terorgejsta i tako toNo 1 wrote:Eto nama saveznika i u fantaziju.
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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Pogledaj Nagashov lore .joggy wrote:cek,cek da vidis kad bude legalno recimo 10 terorgejsta i tako toNo 1 wrote:Eto nama saveznika i u fantaziju.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Na BOLSu pricaju o tome kako ce i Chaos da dobije isti tretman uskoro.
Ja se nadam licno modelu Mazdamundija na sopstvenom Stegadonu negde na prolece, ako se ovako nastavi.
Ja se nadam licno modelu Mazdamundija na sopstvenom Stegadonu negde na prolece, ako se ovako nastavi.
I myself am a self-proclaimed expert, if I do say so myself.
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Putrid Blightkings - A multipart plastic box set that makes the basis of a new monstrous infantry for Warriors of Chaos. You can make five Putrid Blightkings, the chosen champions of Nurgle. The kit contains lots of variety as well as parts to make a standard bearer and a musician. RRP £33.50
•Gutrok Spume - A single frame plastic hero in a clampack, that makes one special character which can be used as the sixth member of Putrid Blightkings monstrous infantry . RRP £16
•Dark Eldar Wych Cult Shardstorm - Available Whilst Stocks Last - an added value box set for Dark Eldar giving approximately 20% saving against individual purchases of each product within it. Contains 1 x Succubus, 1 x Venom, 1 x Raider, 10 x Wyches and 6 x Reaver Jetbikes. RRP £95
•Gutrok Spume - A single frame plastic hero in a clampack, that makes one special character which can be used as the sixth member of Putrid Blightkings monstrous infantry . RRP £16
•Dark Eldar Wych Cult Shardstorm - Available Whilst Stocks Last - an added value box set for Dark Eldar giving approximately 20% saving against individual purchases of each product within it. Contains 1 x Succubus, 1 x Venom, 1 x Raider, 10 x Wyches and 6 x Reaver Jetbikes. RRP £95
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Vidis, oni idu na 40mm baze i ovde pise da su Monstrous Infantry!
A na onim slikama iz WD sto je Sloba pronasao pise da su Infantry!
o.O
A na onim slikama iz WD sto je Sloba pronasao pise da su Infantry!
o.O
kuliraj dete, zivot je pred tobom.
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Najzad nešto i za jadne dobrice
Karl Franz Ascendant - 10 attacks base with the new Essence of Ghal Maraz that ignore armor saves and wound automatically. He also has a 4+ ward save and magic resistance (2). Karl Franz may now just be the physical manifestation of Sigmar, and the only hope for the Empire of Man.
Plus 9 rana I7, A čekić pravi D3+1 ranu i ima bound spell koji pravi D6 S6 hitova a na 3+ jopet.
Karl Franz Ascendant - 10 attacks base with the new Essence of Ghal Maraz that ignore armor saves and wound automatically. He also has a 4+ ward save and magic resistance (2). Karl Franz may now just be the physical manifestation of Sigmar, and the only hope for the Empire of Man.
Plus 9 rana I7, A čekić pravi D3+1 ranu i ima bound spell koji pravi D6 S6 hitova a na 3+ jopet.
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.