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Pitanja - airbrush problemi

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Naime, kada nakacim kabl na kompresor i pistolj, i ukljucim kompresor, vec oko 2 bara mi se desava da ona kapica koja je oko srafa ostane na kompresoru a crevo izleti odatle. Da li radim nesto pogresno, imam pogresan kabl, nisam nesto dobro prikljucio ili sta?

Ovo je vec drugi kabl... tako da sad vise ne mislim da je do kabla :D.

edit: desava kao u: desava svaki put.

Kabl je neki gumeni sa pletenim omotom i metalom na vrhu. Sraf je metalni.
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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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možda ti je sjebano crevo tu gde se spaja sa metalnim delom
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Ma novo kupio juce. Nemoguce je da su mi 2 creva za redom sjebana na isti nacin na istom mestu. Nesto ne radim kako treba, a ne znam sta.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Rekao bih da ti je pretanko crevo,tj da nije pravljeno da ide preko 1-1.5 bara.Ili je jako jako losa veza izmedju creva i metalne kapice na kraju.
Ako ne brines oko vracanja creva i sl,probaj kada navuces crevo preko kapice te metalne blago upaljacem da zagrejes taj deo creva,taman dovoljno da krene malo da se topi,pa prestanes i pustis da se ohladi i samo stisne oko kapice.Ja sam svojevremeno imao isti problem sa preslabim crevom,odradio to sa upaljacem (sto sam na nekom maketarskom forumu procitao) i godinama me je sluzilo bez problema.
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Ne znam, koristim crevo 1/8", koje je i preporuceno u uputstvu za kompresor. Identicno sam video u klubu na dekinom kompresoru koji vrlo lici na moj.

Da li mogu nekako da smanjim pritisak pre neko sto ukljucim kompresor? I kako? Jer onaj ventil kad vrtim levo-desno ne desava se nista. Ili barem ja ne provaljujemkako da ga vrtim.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo npr. upravo sam ponovo pokusao, i kada dodjem do 1 bar crevo vec spadne sa pipka (kapice ili kako god da se zove ono).

Ostaje jos da probam burazerovo crevo na svom kompresoru i svoje crevo i airbursh na tudjem kompresoru i svoj airbrush na tudjem crevu i kompresoru.

Mada mislim da je sve ok osim necega sa crevom.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ne znam da li mozes da smanjis pritisak,predpostavljam da moze,nekako,samo da ja ne znam kako.
Ako budes menjao crevo u radnji probaj da trazis veceg promera i\ili pancirno mada ti pancirno ne znaci nista za prskanje maketa.Samo da mozes da okacis na svoju opremu.
Ako ne budes menjao crevo a nista ti drugo ne pomogne probaj ono sa upaljacem mozda ti resi problem.
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Posto sam probleme sa kablom nekako prevazisao, imam pitanje u vezi sa drugim problemom:

Koristio sam danas airbrush. Rasklopio ga, oprao, da ga spremim za sledecu boju. Vratio sve nazad. Mehanizam ne povlaci iglu. Pokusao da izvadim iglu - igla je zaglavljena unutra. Znaci skinuo sam sve sa igle, nema ni jedan delic vise na njoj i ne mogu da je izvucem iz onog njenog kanala.

Bilo koja ideja je dobrodosla.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Postigao napredak: uspeo sam da izvucem iglu sa prednje strane. Sad znam da je zaglavljena u onom nozzle delu. Samo jos ne znam kako da je izvadim :?

edit: dakle sad sam rastavio u potpunosti sve, i u onom prednjem delu ima ona mala kapica koja moze onom alatkom da se odsrafi - e ta mala kapica i igla su zaglavljene jedna u drugoj.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Obavezno kada cistis na kraju dana odsrafi diznu i nju detaljno ocisti.Takodje pazljvo je vracaj posle,na nekim modelima ume da bude losijeg kvaliteta (?) pa da se sama dizna polomi.Meni se tako polomila na delu koji se srafi nazad u mehanizam.
Kapica je ustvari vrh koji se srafi na kraj prskalice i koji smanjuje rasprskavanje.Takodje i nju cisti ukoliko je koristis.Upotreba kapice nije obavezna,narocito ako prskas vece povrsine.Ukoliko radis nesto sitno savetujem da je nakacis.Znaci ne govorim o dizni (prčvoljak metala) nego o vecem delu koji inace stoji na kraju prskalice.

Ako ti je boja zapekla na nekom od tih delova probaj stapicem za usi da nanosis po malo acetona ili nekog slicnog sredstva za uklanjanje boje,cisto da malo popusti da mozes da odvrnes.Nemoj prejako da stezes diznu kad je vracas da ne pukne,i nemoj prejako da je odvrces ukoliko si stegao.Mera koju ja koristim je kada kljucic vise nece da se okrece jednim prstom dosta je.Stezanje preko toga moze da osteti diznu a nista bolje nece funkcionisati.

OBAVEZNO iglu pazljivo izvlaci,i gledaj da ne savijes vrh (spic).Kada je detaljno ocistis uzmi na neki tufer malo nekog kozmetickog ulja,recimo ono johnson bebi ulje,i da premazse iglu time,CELU.To ti uveliko pomaze da se igla nakon toga lakse vrati u prskalicu i da moze lakse da se pomera u samom mehanizmu.

Proveri ukoliko mozes od cega je pravljena prskalica kako slucajno ne bi ostetio unutrasnjost nekim pogresnim sredstvom za ciscenje.
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Dizna i igla su zaglavljene. Ona kapica za suzavanje prskanja je ok. Na mom modelu su te 2 stvari potpuno odvojene.

Stavljao sam airbrush thinner, ali to nije pomoglo. A pise i da se ne stavlja rastvor zbog onog o-ringa oko dizne, koji je valjda osetljiv na to.

Probacu veceras jos jednom sa raznim tim acetonima / thinnerima / slicnim.

Nista nije polomljeno / krivo / neispravno. Deluje mi kao najverovatnije da se negde ili neka boja zapekla ili tako neka glupost da je u pitanju.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Da verovatno je samo zapeklo.Srecno onda sa time.

Inace nemoj mnogo da brines oko tog prstencica oko dizne on tu stoji samo da te spreci da prejako stegnes diznu.Kada je cistis skines ga.Ako se upropasti vremenom nije nista strasno,savrseno sve radi i bez njega.
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Nocenje u acetonu nije pomoglo.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Da li si:
-stavio acetona i unutra i spolja?
-probao neki drugi skidac laka za nokte bez acetona?Meni aceton nije toliko skidao boju koliko ovi bez acetona (konkretno Dahlia uljani skidac laka za nokte bez acetona)
-probao malko jace da odvrnes diznu?

Ukoliko je bas zapeklo jedino ti treba strpljenje,dok ne popusti.
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koji model airbrusha koristiš?
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Bojim se da ne shvatate :D. Znaci diznu sam odsrafio, nije zapeklo na delu gde se dizna srafi za onu njenu "kucicu". Ceo je rastavljen u delice. Sama dizna (onaj deo koji ima oblik "srafcica") je zaglavljena sa iglom. Znaci onaj najmanji delic. Nakacicu kasnije u toku dana sliku.

Koristio sam neki ulljani aceton. Bila je potopljena samo igla i dizna.

Fengde bd 181a je model. Koliko uopste kostaju nove igle i dizne, da li to ima da se kupi u BG?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dakle imaš ovaj model http://www.alexandar-cosmetics.com/sr/p ... 1A/0/10513
Sve deliće imaju u Aleksandru i nisu skupi tipa oko 300din je igla, dizna hmmm pa slično oko 200din i poštarina za slanje oko 300din otprilike za sve ti treba do 1000din.
Za dobro čišćenje ti je Vallejov Airbrush Cleaner opako dobar, a ja kao alternativu koristim axel sgrasso, aceton ja ne bi koristio.
I obavezno nabavi Vallejov Airbrush Thinner radi dobro sa svim akrilnim bojama nebitan je proizvođač, osnovno da ti poveća prohodnost boje koju koristiš pored što je i razredi lepo....
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A da ti nisi koristio ne adekvatnu iglu na tu diznu?Recimo 0.3 diznu i 0.5 iglu?Ako su istog promera ne bi trebalo da se zaglavljuju tako.

Imas i u Papir coloru AB delove,iwata sve,a cene su...ne pitaj.
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Dada, to je taj set. Airbrush thinner sam vec uzeo, onu novu veliku bocu, super je. Probao sam i sa njim da odglavim :D. Danas onda idem da pazarim i axel i vallejo cleaner, mozda nesto od toga pomogne.

Malo mi je cudno sto se zaglavilo. Sve sam bas ultra cistio, sumnjam da je iko bas toliko cistio svoje aparate. I to mi se jos zaglavilo nakon ciscenja (kad sam vadio iglu da ocistim sve je bilo ok, zaglavila se kad sam je vracao unutra).

Ovo su mi igla i dizna koji su dosli u setu. Sad, ako u setu dodje pogresno, onda sam koristio pogresno :D. Mada mi to deluje malo verovatno.

Elem, evo slika:
Slika 1
Slika 2
Slika 3

Sad sam stavio i Axel sagrgrgrgrg kako se vec zove :D. Pa cemo videti ucinak.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Sa slikama se menja problem.Ne bih rekao da je u pitanju zapekla boja jer bi se delovi do sada vec odvojili.
Moze biti zaglavljena zbog razlike u promeru igle i dizne.
Takodje moze biti da je doslo do ostecenja pri vrhu igle koje se ni ne primeti toliko pa da ono sprecava da iglu izvcuces napolje.
U oba slucaja da probas da nauljis nekako pa da izadje?Svakako mozes kasnije da ocistis kad ih razdvojis.Sledeci put iglu kad cistis namazi je bebi uljem pa probaj da li ce se ponavljati problem.

Gledajuci cene na Olsianonovom linku cak i da nista ne upali,nova igla i dizna ti nece biti previse skupi (kao na nekim mestima).
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Hvala svima za informacije. Nadao sam se da cu danas nastaviti sa bojenjem, ali ako ovi axeli i slicna cuda ne prorade - mislim da cu morati da sacekam porudzbinu :( .
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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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a da li ste probali kod njihovim dfistributera u BG-u:

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Njih sam zvao kad sam kupovao AB, i tada nisu imali ni AB ni kompresor. Predpostavljam da rezervne delove tek nemaju :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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:( a ja se nadao da cu izbeci put do Novog Sada ;) jer su mi ovi u Klare Cetkin 200m od kuce :)
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Tesko ;). U BG imas samo iwata AB, po povoljnim cenama :D. A mislim da u papir coloru nemaju kompresore, tako da za NS moras pa moras.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Papir Color sarađuje sas novosadistima, pa probaj kod njih...

A i tvoj omiljeni Spektar M hobi takođe...

Probaj kod njih prvo pre nego što kreneš u NS...
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Zuborove komsije nemaju, "ali mogu da poruce" (hvala, to umem i sam). Ovi drugi su mislili da sam narkoman kad sam trazio iglu za AB.

Na moje veliko iznenadjenje, papir color ima igle i dizne za fengdine modele, i kostaju 220 dinara (each). Odoh ka tamo :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Epilog: pozvao papir color, vele imaju i dizne i igle. Odem tamo - naravno nema :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: .

Odem u M hobby, hteo da kupim po 2 igle i dizne 0.2, covek da naplati, pita u cemu je problem, ja objasnim i dam mu iglu i diznu koji su zaglavljeni. Samo ih je pipnuo i ono se odglavilo..... caka je bila: ja sam pokusavao da izvucem iglu, a on je "odsrafio" (vrtis malo levo-desno).

Veli, problem je u tome sto nisam dobro ocistio diznu. I sto akrilici nisu za 0.2 iglu, i stalno prave taj problem na tim iglama. Tako da sam na kraju kupio 0.2 i 0.3 igle i dizne. I dobio gratis "opravku" ove koju sam vec imao :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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ti si bre ko onaj bosanac: "aaa upalis motorku"
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Da li postoji nacin za nanosenje 2. nijanse na figuru, a da se 1. nijansa ne promeni? Govorimo o WH / WH40K / Warmahordes figurama, ako pravi razliku.

Npr. nesto sam uradio na jednoj figuri, i pokusao sam da nanesem drugi sloj, na druge delove figura, i koliko god se trudio i bio precizan, uvek nesto ode i na onaj prvi sloj. Dakle kako da zastitim ono sto sam vec uradio?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ako sam ja tebe dobro razumeo treba ti Vallejo Liquid Mask...

Naneseš na delove figure koji su već završeni, i onda možeš da farbaš preko toga...

Kada završiš, ukloniš masku i to je to...
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Sto ja znam/koristim: liquid mask, masking tape, blu tack (uhu patafix) i prst :D (ukoliko je povrsina odgovarajuca).
Cini mi se da je Igor u nekom tutorijalu za FOW koristio uhu patafix za maskiranje pa ga mozes potraziti u kreativnoj sekciji.
U sustini, cilj je isti, nekako zastititi obojenu povrsinu. Tako da u zavisnosti od povrsine, koristis odgovarajuce sredstvo.
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Koliko sam ja razumeo - liquid mask ostavlja weathering tragove, sto ne zelim bas uvek.

Gde mogu da kupim masking tape i blue tack? edit: i da li oni imaju neki "nusefekat" (npr. skidanje farbe, weathering, itd.)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Koliko sam ja razumeo - liquid mask ostavlja weathering tragove, sto ne zelim bas uvek.

Gde mogu da kupim masking tape i blue tack? edit: i da li oni imaju neki "nusefekat" (npr. skidanje farbe, weathering, itd.)
liquid mask te više muči da pažljivo skineš isti sa modela tj da ne oštetiš isti u procesu, tj može obična gumica za brisanje da se koristi, Humbrolov je odličan....
masking tape i blue tack su skoro imali na lageru u M Hobiju na NBG-u, UHU Patafix ja koristim i odličan je, cena oko 300din ja sam koristio isti za maskiranje panzera i SS Marinca neoštećuje boju prethodno nanetu!
UHU imaš u Office One knjižarama.
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OK, hvala!
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Hello,

kao (novi) ponosni vlasnik airbrusha imam pitanje ... cime ga cistite?

Videh na razno raznim tutorijalima da ameri cesto koriste "simple green", sta bi bio nas ekvivalent?

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žubor wrote:Hello,

kao (novi) ponosni vlasnik airbrusha imam pitanje ... cime ga cistite?

Videh na razno raznim tutorijalima da ameri cesto koriste "simple green", sta bi bio nas ekvivalent?

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a moja alternativa njemu je Axel Sgrass-o
Koji model AB-a si kupio?
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Thanks,
bejah danas u Papir koloru :-( ah ...
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Dobar je taj 203, dolazi sa diznom i iglom 0.2 beše, moja preporuka da poručiš diznu i iglu 0.3 za isti model u tom slučaju!
0.3 je daleko komfornija za rad :)
I da obavezno Vallejo Airbrush Thinner kupi pogotovo ako ćeš koristiti akrilne boje koje nisu predviđene za AB
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