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Re: Heldorado

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Meni odgovara!!!Samose vas dvojica dogovorite.I ja bi d vidim kako se igra!!!
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Meni dogovara neka mantine varijanta ,sto ce reci od 14h. Preciziracemo dan (ponedeljak ili utorak).
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Sto se tice vremena u nekom od tih dana meni je svejedno
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Moze li ponedeljak 14h, 200poena?
p.s. imas li kartice na engleskom?
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Moze,imam kartice na engleskom za saracene odstampane
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Re: Heldorado

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Evo prvih utisaka.
Igra je drugacija od bilo cega sto sam do sada igrao.
Naravno, bila je prva partija pa smo se malo "rvali" sa pravilima, ali su mi utisci izuzetno povoljni.
Mislim da je potrebno odigrati par partija dok se ne uhvati sta koji junit tacno radi i sa kim treb da bude "povezan". Pobedu zapadnjacima omogucile su sinergije i lecenje (Doppelsoldneri su majka,a God guides my Hand na macevaocu je obaveza iako kosta 2 CMD i to "zauvek").
Treba dobor izuciti abilitije i "zonglirati" sa komand poenima.
Ono sto je kljucna razlika u odnosu na druge igre jeste da u bliskoj borbi udaraju obe strane isovremeno. Prevedeno to znaci da obicno nema velike razlike da li napadas ti ili te napadaju - jedinica je snazna koliko je snazna (osim kad jurisa, onda moze da ima razne penale.
Veoma, veoma dobar sistem (prvi utisak).
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Evo da se i ja nadovezem stvarno zanimljiva igra.Pucanje ne nanosi mnogo stete,a charge-ovanje uopste ne mora da donosi prednost kao sto smo se danas uverili.Takodje command je veoma bitan i treba dobro razmisliti da li ce nesto da se potrosi na permanent.Takodje vazni su abilitie-i jedinica i treba dobro kombinovati jedinice da bi mogle da uspesno suportuju jedni druge.
Toliko za prvi utisak.
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evo i prvog utiska posmatracha :D
igra deluje jako jako zabavno...
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Evo i mog prvog utiska: Mrzim vodoinstalatere!!
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Dobro Zulufe - imas opravdan izostanak. :wink:
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Pitanje (glupo): Ako charge daje penale, zasto bi se uopste chargeovalo?
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zato shto se pomerash na primer 6" a chardzujesh 12"....
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Chargujes ako prelazis vise od svog muvmenta da bi dosao u kontakt s neprijateljem. Sasvim je logicno, jer neprijatelj te gleda kako trcis preko polja i lepo se spremio da te napenali. U opste uzevsim, mislim da je igra izuzetno verna kopija borbe iz 17 veka.
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nadam se da ce biti jos prilika da se vidi neka partija
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Naravno da hoce
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Da li ce, i zna li se kad, izdati igru na engleskom?
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Bili su rumori da treba da izadje ove godine u avgustu,septembru
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ok pitanje: ako na oficiru pishe da moze da vodi troopere of her choise, da li to znachi da moze da vodi meshovitu druzinu??
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jel to pod Prestige? 3
Posto samo Prestige ti omogucuje da vodis trupe koje ne pripadaju tvojoj vojsci (mislim da Prestige imaju samo mersenari).
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jeste...cica merc ima prestige da moze da vodi trupere of her choise
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Jedino sto je cica merc limitid edishn :? :(
A ince, izdali su kartu za novo izmenjeno izdanje cice.
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Ofarbane figure Vestenera možete videti na mom blogu
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(koa i neke figure za Infinity i Warzone)
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Zvanican prevod karata za Heldorado.
http://helldorado.fr/telechargements/index.php
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Ima dosta propusta pri prevodu (ne znam koliko je dobar vec je nesto ostalo na Francuskom ili su patili od Bocizma :))

Zeko, u kol'ko pojena se igra i kol'ko para kosta armijica?
(posto Rik revnosno updejtuje cenovnik :) )

Igrao, neigrao moracu nabaviti Jinx, Annoying slave (beba sa plikovima - so kjut!)
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Partija se igra u 200 poena (premda ima najava da ce podici na 250). 200 poena se nalazi u starteru, koji je pri tome veoma isplativ (u odnosu na "bustere" ali u odnosu i na startere za druge igre). Rik na turnirima pravi promocije, pa je to dobar trenutak da se uzme starter i 1-2 bustera (cisto da imas malo da menjas listu).
Kartice su beta verzija, a "ispravljene" izlaze tokom sledece nedelje.
Na UKCORDOvom sajtu ima i prevod pravila za teren, ali nije kompletan. Zvanican prevod pravila za teren se ocekuju uskoro.
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To j' lepo, mog uda sacekam WM turnir u Novembru ako tad bude popusta a i imam vremena da se smislim da li bih igrao.
Koliko kosta starter u novcima?:)
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To ce morati neko iz Sigila (mislim da je nesto oko 3000).
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Zekina banda wrote:To ce morati neko iz Sigila (mislim da je nesto oko 3000).
3300.
Mali boksici su izmedju 1100 i 1700.
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Od Ruskog drvosece pa nadalje, Asmodee ce paralelno sa privjuom figure izbacivati kartu i na engleskom (juce izbacili za Ruskog drvosecu i Harona).
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Svratih do njihovog foruma i pročitah da bi pravila na engleskom trebalo da izađu u prvom delu 2009.
Info je još uvek nezvaničan pa ne verujem dok ne vidim svojim očima, ali mi je drago da postoji verovatnoća da se to desi. Samim tim su i veće šanse da se igra popularizuje.
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HELLDORADO U 2009

Engleska knjiga u drugom kvartalu, a zvanicne odstampane karte i ranije. Nova frakcija ..... uostalom, procitajte sami:

Helldorado in 2009:

- new profiles '1635' for around 80% of the existing miniatures, ETA Jan 09. They will be available as free download or in exchange of PM and retailers carrying the line (in English?).

- new recruitment rules will be in effect ASAP, including stricter enrollment of non-faction fighters. Full faction companies will also be rewarded in game terms. Some competences will also have slightly altered game mechanics.

- English (and spanish) rules officially announced for Q2 2009.

- a rulebook extension (in English?) featuring a campaign system, new recruitment rules, additional background, revised profiles and previews. Available Q2 2009.

- new Retiarus, Hashishin, Fencer and Succubus sculpts. No ETA or means of availability confirmed. concept example:

http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/sec ... eur2-2.jpg

- new sub-factions for existing factions: Pre-colombian (Lost), Dissidents Luciferians (Demon), Templars (Mercenary?)

- a new faction 'The Immortals' at the end of Feb 09, inspired from medieval China and will include humans, demons and part-human part-demon fighters. i.e Imperial Sentinel (Immortal demon):

http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/sec ... elle-2.jpg

It will introduce a new approach to commandment points management. The starter will contain more than 200AP to provide sideboard from the get go.

- releases will be monthly from now on, with 2 new boxes every time. Immortals will get the lion's share to catch up with existing factions.

- background: Thomas Cheilan, one of the main contributor to the background texts of the rulebook and author of the first -to-be-released- Helldorado novel will open the hostility with short story arcs to be published on the website starting this December, to further and evolve the universe and storyline.

- Zeabas Chronicles season 4 in January will see a new terrain type for your conflicts: the Garden of Torments. The campaign's stakes will have deep geopolitical, military, cultural and mystic aftermaths. scenery sample from upcoming campaign kit:

http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/sec ... -verso.jpg

- Claustrophobia, a boardgame based on Helldorado, with PPP. Some figs from game should also be available in Metal for the tabletop game. Availability Oct 2009.


... some of this is old news but there's a few interesting info. I will update if other details transpire
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Divno, menjaju pravila posle nepunih pola godine... Confrontation style baby!! 8O 8O :lol:
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Koliko sam razumeo ne menjaju pravila, nego nastavljaju tok price, pa shodno tome, menjaju se statovi ucesnika (neka vrsta RPG elementa u igri). Znaci, novi profili su za novo doba u igri, tj. kao druga knjiga u warmachinu gde se radnja razvijala kroz nekoliko knjiga.
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Jel to znaci i da ce poceti da izdaju figure iz startera u blisterima(posto vidim da ce izdavati nekoliko kutija mesecno i novi skulpt hashasina)?
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Mislim da ce izdavati samo alternativne skulptove u blisterima. Premda se suskalo i o toj varijanti o kojoj pricas, ali bez potvrde za sada.
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Zekina banda wrote:a new faction 'The Immortals' at the end of Feb 09, inspired from medieval China and will include humans, demons and part-human part-demon fighters. i.e Imperial Sentinel (Immortal demon):

http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/sec ... elle-2.jpg
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ASMODEE JE RESIO DA PRESTANE SA IZDAVANJEM HELLDORADA NA KRAJU JUNA MESECA
Ovo obavestenje je okacio Geof (tvorac HDa) na frnacuskom forumu. Asmodee ga je obavestio pre pet dana. Covek sad pokusava da nadje druge investitore. U rukama ima kompletan sistem podrzan do juna meseca (sto znaci: Novu frakciju,kao i po jedan dodatnu kutiju za svaku frakciju; prvu reviziju pravila nazvanu 1635 sa svim karticama (sve to na engleskom i francuskom); prevod knjige pravila na engleski (zavrsen 80%); podrsku u nagradama za turnire itd.
Ja mu licno zelim srecu, jer je sistem dobar, iako su neke figure daleko od mog ukusa.
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:cry:
:roll:
Jos jedan francuski sistem down the drain...
Steta, neke od tih figura su zapravo lepe :-)
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eto posla za starca....da otkupi helldorado :D :D :D
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e sad da nadjem moje saracene,pravila i kartice i bacim ih u kantu :roll:
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