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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... ma puhsti transport choche...
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http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx ... _cat_id=65

staro pravilo za italijanske 47/32 i 65/17 topove, sada izbaceno.
naime ovi topovi se racunaju kao INFANTRY tim! Trench Guns pravilo. jako interesantno....
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Tzv pravilo ''kupite italijane'' :) . Pa lepo, solothurni sad lice na nesto, a elefantini jos pride imaju i bolji save, doduse malo su sporiji...Lepo,lepo.

Pitanje: da li se jos uvek solothurni kupuju pojedinacno a 47/32 kao unit? Tj to ostaje isto samo se tretiraju kao pesadija.
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ovo nije važeće pravilo već iz prve edicije
naime u tekstu stoji rečenica: Avanti Savoia introduces the Trench Gun special rule...
Avanti Savoia je Italijansa armijska knjiga za prvu ediciji
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Pa zasto stoji na zvancinom sajtu?
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house rule je cudo! :D

mislim da bi trebalo uvrstiti Trench gun pravilo za italijane u igri!
sjajno je!
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zašto stoji na sajtu?
verovatno stari ne ažurirani članak...
a za House Rule jednom kada kreneš nema kraja, na kraju igraš nešto što ni sam ne znaš šta je...
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A mozda ce u novim pravilima to vratiti. Iskreno mislim da je tako nesto dobro poboljsanje za italijane, posto nekako nadoknadjuje njihov nedostatak postenih tenkova. Ovako imaju tzv ''amassed firepower''. Gomila AT 7 oruzja, sto omogucava ubijanje neprijateljskog oklopa bez potrebe koriscenja saveznika.
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to je druga stvar koja mi je pala na pamet
videćemo krajem avgusta kada izađe nova Afrika
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cisto sumljam da ce vratiti to pravilo... :(
a i videh na forumu da ce North Africa kasniti! :(((((((( e sad da li je to istina....
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vezano za:
Skobra wrote: Slovic je geometarski powergamer
Evo jedan geometarski biser, geometarskog powergamera: Timu koji SPOTUJE potreban je jedan inch prostora uzmedju 2 friendly tima kako bi video protivnika ... detalje sa poslednje kampanjske partije iz III kruga ...

A mozda sam ja u krivu (kao sto u poslednje vreme jesam sve cesce i cesce ...)
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Podrzavam geometra... osim za kozacku cetu... Kozacki observeri mogu da spotuju kroz konjicke timove! Ne secam se koja strana u rulebuku ali slozicete se da je istorijski realno da svaki konj ima noge razmaknute za makar 1"... :D
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Friendly Tank teams block LOS
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Golub87 wrote:Friendly Tank teams block LOS
a ko je rekao drugacije ...

observer gleda IZMEDJU kuce i tenka ... (ukoliko se opaska odnosi na observera :-))
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videvši i pročitavši sve ovo ja sam se upiškio od sreće

http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1329
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Mora da je zbog smešnih tenkića i vatrogasnih šlemova. :D :D

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Na današnji dan pre tačno 65 godina počela ja operacija Market-Garden.
Ono što je za nas sve interesantno je da pored knjige Hells Highway koja će pokrivati Britanski XXX korpus, 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne kao i njihove nemačke protivnke koji između ostalog obuhvataju 3te Fallschirmjagger najavljena je i kampanja Firestorm Market-Garden koja će pokrivati celokupnu operaciju.
Jedino što nemamo nikoga da vodi 1st Airborne...
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Nećeš verovati ali u Beogradu postoji ta osoba, bar in potentia. Naime, Milan je svojevremeno kupio kutiju engleskih padobranaca i ubrzo je prodao nekom ortaku. Još kad bi znali ko je i kad bi taj hteo da igra???
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Rumuni su borbeno spremni
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Mislim da je ovo oksimoron?
Rumuni su borbeno spremni
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Sarkazam?
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opsidiannight wrote:Mislim da je ovo oksimoron?
Rumuni su borbeno spremni
što reče Stalone u jednom filmu: you are an ox and a moron!
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Čekaj bre, samo Moma i Miloš mogu da citiraju Stalonea. Oni igraju sa istima.
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Ajd sad nesto ozbiljnije ...

Citajuci pravila naidjoh ne sledece i zaprepastih se:

Ukoliko je Warrior Team (CiC recimo) Transport Team ... posle njegovog unistenja u shooting fazi protivnik baca kockicu i na 4+ Warrior Team je unisten ... a na 1,2 i 3 ... NIJE MU NISTA!!!
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Nije mu nista ako ima tim u rangu u koji moze da se "pretvori"... ukoliko nema... puf. To je valjda za sve isto. E sad na koji transport warrior tim mislis?

edit: U pravu je zubor. E sad koji su warrirori transport tim? Romel sa onim svojim vozilom?
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Skobra wrote:Nije mu nista ako ima tim u rangu u koji moze da se "pretvori"... ukoliko nema... puf. To je valjda za sve isto. E sad na koji transport warrior tim mislis?

edit: U pravu je zubor. E sad koji su warrirori transport tim? Romel sa onim svojim vozilom?
Bilo koji CiC ili Higher Command team koji je Transport Team ...

Npr. Major General Ernest N Harmon

Nema toga puno ali mi je bilo interesantno da covek fakticki ima pravi ward save na 4- :D
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Ma verovatno su hteli da mu daju malo vecu prezivljivost takvim timovima
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Evo (bar za mene) jos jednog bisera ...

Who Can Defensive Fire:

Any enemy platon that has team within 4" of an assaulting team is counted as being assaulted and is eligible to conduct Defensife Fire

Da li to u stvari znaci da si Assaultovao 2 platoona?

Moje poznavanje engleskog mi kaze da je to bas tako ...
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Pa znaci... a sto ti je to biser? To je po istom principu kao i onaj breaktrough assault....
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Skobra wrote:Pa znaci... a sto ti je to biser? To je po istom principu kao i onaj breaktrough assault....
Sto mi je biser?

Pa nikada do sada nisam igrao da ukoliko DRUGI platoon radi defensive fire da je fakticki i on assaultovan tj da moze da radi counterattack...
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Ajd da probam i sa ovim ...

Platoon je CV i njemu se pridruzi FV CiC ... na kraju ... recimo shooting faze ... platoon baca moral test (jer je ispod pola) ...

Dobija 3 ... tj ne uspeva ...

Zbog CiC-a, ima pravo na re-roll

Dobija 3 ... tj opet ne uspeva jer se moral testira na NAJNIZI MORAL U PLATOONU ... (strana 7 male knjige odnosno 29. strana velikog rulebooka)
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na 117 strani pdf pod independent teams pise
Platoons use their Motivation for platoon Morale Checks, rather than that of any Independent teams that have joined them.
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Chempress wrote:na 117 strani pdf pod independent teams pise
Platoons use their Motivation for platoon Morale Checks, rather than that of any Independent teams that have joined them.
pa da ... tako i jeste u mom gore navedenom primeru :D ali nisam siguran da smo tako i igrali do sada ...

edit: da, trebao sam to pravilo da navedem a ne ono o mixed moralu ... mada ... krajnji rezultat je isti :D
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pa da tek kad si sad to sve pomenuo.... cinimi se da smo to mozda igrali pogresno..... :D

mada pise valjda pored nekih junaka da platoon koji vode prolazi moral na 3+, +2+......
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Pa da, štaviše nezavisni tim mora da bude u komandnoj distanci manjeg morala da bi se pridružio jedinici. Primer FW pešadija se pridružuje FT vodu, morada bude u 4'', i FW nezavisni pešadijski tim se pridružuje tenkovskoj FW jedinici, opet mora da bude u 6'' kolika je njegova komandna distanca a ne u 8'' kolika je za jedinicu tenkova. :)
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opsidiannight wrote:Pa da, štaviše nezavisni tim mora da bude u komandnoj distanci manjeg morala da bi se pridružio jedinici. Primer FW pešadija se pridružuje FT vodu, morada bude u 4'', i FW nezavisni pešadijski tim se pridružuje tenkovskoj FW jedinici, opet mora da bude u 6'' kolika je njegova komandna distanca a ne u 8'' kolika je za jedinicu tenkova. :)
ni na taj detalja do sada nisam obracao paznju.... cool :D
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pa da ... tako i jeste u mom gore navedenom primeru ali nisam siguran da smo tako i igrali do sada ...
Pa igrali smo... recimo primer kada u jurisu pridruzis Nebelwefer observera (CV) platunu Falshcimjagera (FV) gleda se moral platuna - znaci FV.
Pa da, štaviše nezavisni tim mora da bude u komandnoj distanci manjeg morala da bi se pridružio jedinici. Primer FW pešadija se pridružuje FT vodu, morada bude u 4'', i FW nezavisni pešadijski tim se pridružuje tenkovskoj FW jedinici, opet mora da bude u 6'' kolika je njegova komandna distanca a ne u 8'' kolika je za jedinicu tenkova.
Slovic je takodje generalno u pravu - osim sto se za komandni radijus gleda skil a ne moral
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Skobra wrote:
pa da ... tako i jeste u mom gore navedenom primeru ali nisam siguran da smo tako i igrali do sada ...
Pa igrali smo... recimo primer kada u jurisu pridruzis Nebelwefer observera (CV) platunu Falshcimjagera (FV) gleda se moral platuna - znaci FV.
Pa da, štaviše nezavisni tim mora da bude u komandnoj distanci manjeg morala da bi se pridružio jedinici. Primer FW pešadija se pridružuje FT vodu, morada bude u 4'', i FW nezavisni pešadijski tim se pridružuje tenkovskoj FW jedinici, opet mora da bude u 6'' kolika je njegova komandna distanca a ne u 8'' kolika je za jedinicu tenkova.
Slovic je takodje generalno u pravu - osim sto se za komandni radijus gleda skil a ne moral
ono o cemu ja pricam je re-roll zbog CiC-a ... a njega DEFINITIVNO nismo igrali kako treba ...
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I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

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