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DAK

Company HQ……………………………………….........60p.
HQ Sec. CC SMG team, 2iC Command SMG team
Motorcycle and sidecar
SdKfz 251/1 equip. Hull MG, passenger-fired AA MG

Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel………………….50p.
SdKfz 250/5 GRIEF, Hull MG, Rear AA MG
Fearless Veteran

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 215p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x2
SdKfz 250/1 x2

Motorised Panzergrenadier……………………………165p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
Kfz 15
Panzergrenadier x2
Kfz 70 x2

Motorised Panzergrenadier……………………………165p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
Kfz 15
Panzergrenadier x2
Kfz 70 x2

Artillery Battery……………………………………….220p.
HQ Sec. Command SMG team, Staff team,
Observer team x2, Kubelwagen x2
10.5cm leFH18 howitzer x4, firing bombardments

Light AA…...…………………………………………….90p.
SdKfz 10/5 x3, 2cm FlaK38 gun x3

Assault Gun…………………………………………….535p.
StuG F/8, 7.5cm Stuk40 gun, Hull MG

Breifing: Afrika
Company type: Armoured
Division: 10.Panzerdivision

Kao pocetnik u FOWu verujem da sama lista ima dosta mana!
Sugestije su dobrodosle i pozdrav svima :) !
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Hello!

Osnovna primedba je da "osakacene core platoon-e" ne treba voditi ...

Tj. mnogo je bolje 2 puna platoona pesadije (obicne, motorized ili armoured) nego 3 oslabljena ...

To je osnovna i skoro pa jedina zamerka ...

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žubor wrote:Hello!

Osnovna primedba je da "osakacene core platoon-e" ne treba voditi ...

Tj. mnogo je bolje 2 puna platoona pesadije (obicne, motorized ili armoured) nego 3 oslabljena ...

To je osnovna i skoro pa jedina zamerka ...

B.
Hvala :) !
Sada cu to ispraviti u listi!
Koliko se isplati avijacija u samoj igri?

EDIT: Evo i nove izmenjene liste...

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CC SMG team, 2iC Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/1 x2
equip. Hull MG, passenger-fired AA MG

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 290p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x3
SdKfz 250/1 x3

Motorised Panzergrenadier……………………………225p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
Kfz 15
Panzergrenadier x3
Kfz 70 x3

Artillery Battery……………………………………….220p.
HQ Sec. Command SMG team, Staff team,
Observer team x2, Kubelwagen x2
10.5cm leFH18 howitzer x4, firing bombardments

Armored Car Patrol…………………………………… 90p.
SdKfz 231 x2, 2cm tank gun, Co-ax MG

Light AA…...…………………………………………….60p.
SdKfz 10/5 x2, 2cm FlaK38 gun x3

Assault Gun…………………………………………….535p.
StuG F/8 x3, 7.5cm Stuk40 gun, Hull MG
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Nije lose ...

Narocito mi se dopada to sto si samostalno upgradeovao Motorcic u Halftruck u HQ-u :-)

Sto se tice aviona ... nisam pametan sta da ti kazem ... nekima rade nekima ne rade ...

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ako si listu napravio sam, svaka cast! :D
o avionima je dosta podeljeno misljenje... dobri su protiv tenkova... ali meni su ipak sranje! :)
zbog toga mi se cini da ti light AA i ne treba. A posebno to sto su od papira i umiru od mrkog pogleda! :D ...ali tih 60p nemas bas nasta pametnije da potrosis...

ali su skupi StuGovi..... 8O a u africi nemaju opciju za schurzcene... bol...
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Ako imas poena za avione, vredi uvek razmisliti o stavljanju istih u listu. Time teras protivnika da se malo drugacije pomera (jer ne sme sve da drzi na gomili), generalno vodi vise racuna, i u zavisnosti od terena, da ne moze da izvede neke manevre (ili da rizikuje da mu poklopis puno toga odjednom). Takodje, svaka greska zna skupo da ga kosta. Po mom licnom misljenju, cak su i najmanji avioni (3 kocke) sasvim dovoljni.

Mislim da ti stugovi kostaju mozda malo previse za 1 unit. Licno, za te poene, radije bih uzeo tigra, avijaciju i pojacao armored cars; ili tigra, nabio totalno armored cars i uzeo Rommel-a (mada Rommel ima jako veliki penal ako umre; ali i jako veliki bonus dok je ziv).

Ja bih uvek vozio AA, jer ako protivnik ima avione, tih 60 poena ti cuvaju puno tvojih poena. Ako nema avione, ako je misija u kojoj ti je pola jedinica na tabli, AA neces staviti na tablu, ako ih i stavljas na tablu, mogu da ti sluze kao machine gun, plus ce protivniku 1 krug odvuci paljbu.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Bilo bi bas kul da se i Romel jednom pojavi na stolu.Cisto fore radi,da se zna ko je glavni baja u pustinji :P
Lepa ti je lista,zaista.
Imas tri stuga za 580 poena? :lol: :roll: Ludilo,a ja mislio da su moji tenkovi preskupi.
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Romela nabavljam sigurno...
Sto se same liste tice imao sam pomoc ljudi koji su u tome vec dosta iskusni. HVALA na tome :D!
Stugovi jesu najskuplji u mojoj listi(535p vrede ukupno), a opet i svi ostali razni panzeri imaju priblizno istu cenu...nema veze kasnije ce se to svakako menjati...
Avijaciju za sada necu ubacivati dok se neupoznam sa samom igrom...
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Da li vredi ubacivati u DAK listu Semoventi self-propelled 75/18 Platoon umesto klasiscne artiljerije?
Samohodka ima poprilcno dobar izbor nadogradnje sto je cini primaljivom....
Evo i te varijacije u listi....da i Tigar je tu :) !

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HQ Sec. equp: Panzerknacker
CC SMG team, 2iC Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/1 x2
equip. Hull MG, passenger-fired AA MG

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 290p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x3
SdKfz 250/1 x3

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 290p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x3
SdKfz 250/1 x3

Light AA…...…………………………………………….90p.
SdKfz 10/5 x3, 2cm FlaK38 gun x3

Heavy Tank Platoon...........................385p.
Tiger I E early x 1

Self-propelled platoon........................355p.
Caroo Comando equp. AA MG, Hull 13,2mm MG
note: Self-defence AA
Semovente 75/18 x4, improvised armor x4,
75mm gun, AA MG
note: Self-defence AA

1490poena.
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Ah nemac kome su potrebni italijanski saveznici!! Odlicno!! :)

Salu na stranu, mislim da ti samovente uopste ne trebaju. Bolje uzmi neku artiljeriju posto samovente ginu od promaje sa svojim mocnim front oklopom od 4. Ako ti treba neki AT mislim da neki od PAK-ova radi odlicno posao, a opet treba ti i klasicna arty za bombardment.
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UUU istina ispustio sam prokleti oklop te samohodke :), nista od njih.....
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Sa pešadijskom listom artiljerija ti je neophodna
ko što reče capitano Rocco Semovente prilično lako ginu od drugih tenkova i at oruđa a pri tom ili nemaju MG ili imaju AA MG te mogu lako da postanu plen pešadije
za svega 35 poena (15 ako kupiš AA MG za Semovente) više možeš da uzmeš Pak40 koji je smrt za sve što se kotrlja
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Probaj umesto poslednjeg platuna da ubacis artiljeriju i jos nesto - imaces sve sto ti treba, a i 6 platuna, sto je odlican izbor.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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realno ... II listu (tj. prvi udpate :D) ne treba da menjas ...
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Kod avijacije vidim postoje dva moda u FOWu LIMITED i PRIORITY, predpostavljam da ovaj drugi znaci da ces imati vecu sansu da se pojave avioni i urade nesto u samoj bitci?

I pored stuke koja je standard, da li bi vredelo ubaciti BF109 ili FW190?

A ne, nemam nameru II listu da skorije menjam, vec samo kao ljubitelj PzKpfw VI Tiger I Ausf E, bi napravio DAK listu sa pomenutim :), a on kosta podosta pa gledam kako da izbalansiram ostatak armije...
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Ovo bi u buducnosti trebala da bude moja FUN DAK lista, gde bi bio Rommel, moj omiljeni tenak Tigar I i lovacbombarder Bf 109 Emil....cisto za prijateljske partije :)!!!

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SdKfz 251/1 x2
equip. Hull MG, passenger-fired AA MG

HERO ROMMEL .......................................50p.
SdKfz250/5 GRIEF

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 290p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x3
SdKfz 250/1 x3

Armored Panzergrenadier…………………………… 290p.
HQ Sec. equip. Panzerknacker, Command SMG team
SdKfz 251/10 equip. 3.7cm tank gun, passenger-fired AA MG
Panzergrenadier x3
SdKfz 250/1 x3

Artillery Battery……………………………………….225p.
HQ Sec. Command SMG team, Staff team, Kfz68 Radio truck
Observer team x2, Kubelwagen x2,
10.5cm leFH18 howitzer x4, firing bombardments, SdKfz 11 x4

Heavy Tank Platoon...........................385p.
Tiger I E early x 1

Priority AIR Support............................165p.
BF109E or FW190F bombs, cannons

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Vrlo lepo!
Kad ih skupis ja ti se prvi prijavljujem za partiju :D
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svidja mi se!
sigurno ces se dobro izigrati tako! :D
pogotovu sto se i ja razmisljam o nekoj listi za zezanje...
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Hoces li ih farbati bas u DAK boje ili nesto drugo?
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Da DAK shema farbanja naravno :) ....i nije neki tezak zahvat kada bolje razmislim.
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bilo bi i mnogo glupo drugacije....
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Sto se tice aviona - imas i sporadic air support (samo sto ga GER nema). Sporadic znaci da pocinjes sa 3 kocke, limited 5, priority 7. Svaki put kad bacis kockice, broj kockica u pool-u se smanjuje za jednu. Ako je bilo koja od kockica 5 ili 6, dolaze ti avioni. Koliko njih dolazi zavisi od bacanja d6: 1-2 je 1 avion, 3-5 su 2 aviona, 6 su 3 aviona. 1 znaci da svaki hit koji napravis, moras ponovo da pogodis, a 3 aviona da svaki promasaj mozes ponovo da pokusas da pogodis (takozvani re-roll :D).

Inace, sto se tice fun listi i friendly igranja - u FoW-u bas i nemas neke uber liste kao u ostalim sistemima, a svi igraci koji trenutno igraju (ok, izuzimam tebe, jer tebe jos nisam video na "delu" :D) su po default-u friendly ljudi, tako da ...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Slazem se sa Zuborom da je 1 update lista sasvim ok... nekako bih uvek radje uzeo 3 stuga nego 1 tigra
opsidiannight wrote:Nema svrhe da ga osudujemo sto prodaje figure jebo je u stisci.

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Hvala kamaradi na savetima, bio sam u subotu i gledao kakao fukcionise FOW, i prvi utisci su skroz ok :) !
Moja FUN lista generalno je upravo samo i to, tako da cu pre od pomenutog tigra i bf109e da napravim jednu malu dioramu :) !
Romel mi se cini po onome sto daje da je vredan rizika ubacivanja u ozbiljnu listu...
Sto se avijacije tice kada je budem koristio to ce biti FW 190 F....
Pozdrav svima...
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Moja prva pot. LW lista, sta mislite vredi li cemu ova kombinacija?

Company HQ...................................95p.
Fearless Veteran
SMG team
SdKfz250/1 x2
Hull MG
Passenger-fired AA MG

SS Panzerpioneer Platoon...................390p.
Fearless Veteran
HQ sec
Pioneer MG team
SdKfz251/1
Hull MG
Passenger-fired AA MG
Pioneer squad x3
SdKfz250/7
Hull MG
Passenger-fired AA MG

SS Panzerpioneer Platoon...................390p.
Fearless Veteran
HQ sec
Pioneer MG team
SdKfz251/1
Hull MG
Passenger-fired AA MG
Pioneer squad x3
SdKfz250/7
Hull MG
Passenger-fired AA MG

Heavy Tank-hunter Platoon................470p.
Confident Veteran
JAGDPANTHER x2
8.8cm PaK43 gun
Hull MG

SS Anti-aircraft gun Platoon...............150p.
Fearless Veteran
HQ sec
SMG team
AA sec x3
3.7cm FlaK43gun

1495poena
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Hmmm... mislim da se ova lista nece preterano proslaviti. Mozda se protiv neke oklopne cete i ovajdis ali ce te pesadija drati kako hoces. Jednostavno premalo vodova, premalo anti-pesadijskog kapaciteta, nista za pinovanje.
opsidiannight wrote:Nema svrhe da ga osudujemo sto prodaje figure jebo je u stisci.

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Nova varijacija LW liste...


Company HQ Panzerpioneer .......75p.
conf veteran
SMG team
SdKfz251, hull MG p-f AA MG

Panzerpioneer Platoon ...............385p.
conf veteran
HQsec. SMG team, SdKfz251(Hull MG) p-f AA MG
Pioneer Squad x3
Pioneer SMG team
SdKfz 251/7, hull MG, p-f AA MG


Panzerpioneer Platoon ...............385p.
conf veteran
HQsec. SMG team, SdKfz251(Hull MG) p-f AA MG
Pioneer Squad x3
Pioneer SMG team
SdKfz 251/7, hull MG, p-f AA MG

Tank-hunter Platoon..................285p.
Jagdpanzer IV x3
7.5cm StuK40 gun, hull MG, schurzen

Motorised Artillery Battery.........230p.
HQsec. Command SMG team
Staff team
Gun Section
Observer team
SdKfz 250, hull MG, p-f AA MG
10.5cm leFH18 gun x2

AA Platoon.............................150p.
SdKfz 7/2(3.7cm)FlaK36gun x3

1500 poena.
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Olsianon wrote:Nova varijacija LW liste...


Company HQ Panzerpioneer .......75p.
conf veteran
SMG team
SdKfz251, hull MG p-f AA MG

Panzerpioneer Platoon ...............385p.
conf veteran
HQsec. SMG team, SdKfz251(Hull MG) p-f AA MG
Pioneer Squad x3
Pioneer SMG team
SdKfz 251/7, hull MG, p-f AA MG


Panzerpioneer Platoon ...............385p.
conf veteran
HQsec. SMG team, SdKfz251(Hull MG) p-f AA MG
Pioneer Squad x3
Pioneer SMG team
SdKfz 251/7, hull MG, p-f AA MG

Tank-hunter Platoon..................285p.
Jagdpanzer IV x3
7.5cm StuK40 gun, hull MG, schurzen

Motorised Artillery Battery.........230p.
HQsec. Command SMG team
Staff team
Gun Section
Observer team
SdKfz 250, hull MG, p-f AA MG
10.5cm leFH18 gun x2

AA Platoon.............................150p.
SdKfz 7/2(3.7cm)FlaK36gun x3

1500 poena.
varijacija na temu Slovićeve liste kojm je igrao protiv mojih Sinova Severa
da se braniš protiv tenkova može, pogotovo ako te teren posluži
sakriješ negde artiljeriju, zavučeš se u šumicu da braniš objektive i to je to
e sad kod napadanja sa svim onim sada jeftinijim AT topovima i tenkovima može da bude problema
ali probaj par puta pa ćeš videti
lično mislim da je nemcima za LW bolje da koriste čistu pešadiju i da igraju defanzivno
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Panzergrenadieri mi deluju kao bolji izbor za LW
Evo pot. liste...

Company HQ panzerfaust smg
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
AA sec Platoon full
SdKfz7/1(Quad 2cm)ROF6(ovo bi protiv pesadije slatko koristio :) ) armored
MotArtBatt. full
12.2cm FH316(r) howitzer
Panzer Platoon x4
PzKpfw IV Ausf H schurzen
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzerpioneer lista

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Olsianon wrote:Panzergrenadieri mi deluju kao bolji izbor za LW
Evo pot. liste...

Company HQ panzerfaust smg
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
AA sec Platoon full
SdKfz7/1(Quad 2cm)ROF6(ovo bi protiv pesadije slatko koristio :) ) armored
MotArtBatt. full
12.2cm FH316(r) howitzer
Panzer Platoon x4
PzKpfw IV Ausf H schurzen
po kojoj je ovo knjizi?
Monty Meatgrinder?
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzerpioneer lista

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Da, Monty Meatgrinder je u pitanju....


Company HQ smg
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Armored AT Platoon full
S307(f)PaK40
AA sec Platoon full
SdKfz7/1(Quad 2cm)ROF6(ovo bi protiv pesadije slatko koristio :) ) armored
MotArtBatt. full
12.2cm FH316(r) howitzer
Panzer Platoon x4
PzKpfw IV Ausf H schurzen

Izmena sada imam i AT unit...
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzerpioneer lista

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Olsianon wrote:Da, Monty Meatgrinder je u pitanju....


Company HQ smg
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Panzergrenadier Platoon panzerfaust smg full
Armored AT Platoon full
S307(f)PaK40
AA sec Platoon full
SdKfz7/1(Quad 2cm)ROF6(ovo bi protiv pesadije slatko koristio :) ) armored
MotArtBatt. full
12.2cm FH316(r) howitzer
Panzer Platoon x4
PzKpfw IV Ausf H schurzen

Izmena sada imam i AT unit...
moram priznati da bih volčeo da igram protiv ove liste ako ništa drugo a ono zato što ja imam 3rd Canadian
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Pa eto posle formiranja DAKa ova LW lista je sledece sto cu oformirati :) ....
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzerpioneer lista + ww2 links

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LINK za ljubitelje ww2 istorije i DAKa http://www.afrikakorps.org/rommelskampfstaffel.htm
Dosta dobrih fotografija...
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzergrenadier lista + DAK link

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Postovanje.
Zam MW.
Izbaci oklopne transportere iz drugog voda pesadije i gledaj da uglavis jednu sekciju mortara.
Tigar je babo, kad ga podrzava PZIII onda je uber babo, (skil ima samo tigar).
Vidi da uzmes staticni AA ako je jeftiniji, ne treba ti kad pridjes protivniku jer te ne moze gadjati ako mu je avion blizi od 16 inca.
Razmisli o Nebelverferima.
FW 190 je super al moras biti fokusiran po pitanju upotrebe aviona. Ne rade bas dobro ako u jednom krugu pesadiju u drugom tenke u trecem artiljeriju. Nego brate udri po prioritetnoj meti ko pijan po plotu. Eventualno da pinujes nesto u odsudnom momentu.
Pusti ti Panzer grenadire i uzmi Panzer pionire iz afrike, milina jedna. Ne treba im 250/1 u HQ a vod ima 7 komada, pride i bacaci plamena i AT 4 u CC pesadiji nisu za bacanje. Kad budes narucivao transportere uzmi odma One sa stukom zu fus isto kostaju ko obicni.

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Takodje postovanje :) !
Hvala na konstruktivnim zam. za DAK listu.
Mark III panzeri + Tiger I kombinaciju cu svakako isprobati :D !!
Panzerpioneer imaju flamere, kako to pogano cudo radi u FOWu, u 40K ignorise cover, verujem da je slicno i ovde?
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzergrenadier lista + DAK link

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Olsianon wrote:Takodje postovanje :) !
Hvala na konstruktivnim zam. za DAK listu.
Mark III panzeri + Tiger I kombinaciju cu svakako isprobati :D !!
Panzerpioneer imaju flamere, kako to pogano cudo radi u FOWu, u 40K ignorise cover, verujem da je slicno i ovde?
to čudo je ultimativni ubica!
pešadija nema sejv a tenk koji je pogođen je automatski bail out
jedina loša strana je što kada opali flejmer se uklanja sa table
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Re: DAK lista + LW Panzergrenadier lista + DAK link

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LW Panzerpioneer lista po Monty's Meatgrinderu

Company HQ..................................85p.
Panzerfaust SMG team
U 304(f) leSPW half-track x2, hull MG

Panzerpioneer Platoon....................345p.
HQsec. Panzerfaust SMG team
U 307(f) (Pioneer), Hull MG, p-f AA MG
Pioneer squad x3
Pioneer MG team x2
U 307(f) (Pioneer), Hull MG, p-f AA MG
Flame-thrower team

Panzerpioneer Platoon....................360p.
HQsec. Panzerfaust SMG team
U 307(f) (Pioneer), Hull MG, p-f AA MG
Pioneer squad x3
Pioneer MG team x2
U 307(f) (Pioneer), Hull MG, p-f AA MG x2
Flame-thrower team

AA Platoon.....................................90p.
SdKfz 10/5 2cm Flak38 gun x3

Motorised Artillery Battery...............240p.
HQsec.
Command SMG team, Kfz 15 field car, Staff team, Kfz 68 radio truck
Gun sec. x2
Observer team, Kubelwagen, hull MG
12.2cm FH316(r) howitzer x2

Panzer Platoon..............................380p.
PzKpfw IV Ausf H, schurzen, x4

Ukupno 1500 poena.
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Pored DAK panzergrenadier liste koju vec formiram, za pustinjsko ratovanje sam zamislio i ovu panzerpioneer listu...

Company HQ
Rommel
Panzer Pioneer Platoon Full, flamethrowers
Panzer Pioneer Platoon Full, flamethrowers
Artillery Battery Platoon Full,
observer Panzer II
10.5cm leFH18
Light AA Platoon x2
SdKfz 10/5 2cm AA gun
Heavy Panzer Platoon
Tiger Ausf I i PzKpfw III N

Cini mi se da ova lista ima dobar potencijal, sta mislite?
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Re: DAK liste + LW liste

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Jelte a zbog cega smatrate da je
Tiger Ausf I i PzKpfw III N
mnogo jebitacna kombinacija?
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