Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
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Army builder 3 ima...
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
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Svi se zovu army builder pa mi je lociranje tog specificnog otezano ![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Link?
Ako nije velik nek mi neko posalje na mejl.
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http://www.wolflair.com
Skines 3ku, pa nadjes specifican fajl za njega za wm... E posto neces nigde naci registrovan mislim da ces po pravljenju moci samo tri jedinice da napravis, ali tri po tri i tako dobijes ono sto ti treba...
Skines 3ku, pa nadjes specifican fajl za njega za wm... E posto neces nigde naci registrovan mislim da ces po pravljenju moci samo tri jedinice da napravis, ali tri po tri i tako dobijes ono sto ti treba...
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Blagodarim.
Nije mi potreban radi pravljenja liste vec za statove tako da mi ne smeta ogranicenje.
Nije mi potreban radi pravljenja liste vec za statove tako da mi ne smeta ogranicenje.
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Dark Guidance ne radi onako kako si mi objasnio:
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5 bambija za find. Good man!
Za feat sam doduse bio u pravu :-)
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Rick, I found the ruling for trenchers, considering that situation with nyss :
Q: Can a model beginning its activation in melee with an enemy model make an Assault or Bayonet Charge against the same model?
A: It may, but it will not be able to make the ranged attack portion of its charge. Otherwise it follows all rules and restrictions of a charge attack.
Q: Can a model beginning its activation in melee with an enemy model make an Assault or Bayonet Charge against the same model?
A: It may, but it will not be able to make the ranged attack portion of its charge. Otherwise it follows all rules and restrictions of a charge attack.
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Prime:RemixPendargon wrote:Rick, I found the ruling for trenchers, considering that situation with nyss :
Q: Can a model beginning its activation in melee with an enemy model make an Assault or Bayonet Charge against the same model?
A: It may, but it will not be able to make the ranged attack portion of its charge. Otherwise it follows all rules and restrictions of a charge attack.
page 107
Trenchers
Bayonet charge(order)
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A Trencher cannot target a model with which he was in melee at the start of his activation with Bayonet Chare's ranged attack.
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Nasao sam napokon i kompletno preciznu tabelu. Drago mi je da nisam bio u krivu :-)
Maximum Deviation and Still Hit Chart for WARMACHINE
Base sizes in inches are:
30mm=1.18", radius=.59"
40mm=1.57", radius=.79"
50mm=1.97", radius=.98"
The deviation distances at which the template and the original target are in "base to base" are:
Small Base
AOE 3 hits small base on deviation of: 0~2.09"
AOE 4 = 0~2.59"
AOE 5 = 0~3.09"
Medium Base
AOE 3 = 0~2.29"
AOE 4 = 0~2.79"
AOE 5 = 0~3.29"
Large Base
AOE 3 = 0~2.48"
AOE 4 = 0~2.98"
AOE 5 = 0~3.48"
Maximum Deviation and Still Hit Chart for WARMACHINE
Base sizes in inches are:
30mm=1.18", radius=.59"
40mm=1.57", radius=.79"
50mm=1.97", radius=.98"
The deviation distances at which the template and the original target are in "base to base" are:
Small Base
AOE 3 hits small base on deviation of: 0~2.09"
AOE 4 = 0~2.59"
AOE 5 = 0~3.09"
Medium Base
AOE 3 = 0~2.29"
AOE 4 = 0~2.79"
AOE 5 = 0~3.29"
Large Base
AOE 3 = 0~2.48"
AOE 4 = 0~2.98"
AOE 5 = 0~3.48"
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Poceo sam menoth i bas su mi strava,za sada imam starter,temple flame gard,i paladina.Da li mi je to dovoljno za neku kracu partiju ili da nabavim jos modela,takodje posedujem i gajdasa.Farbam ih lubicasto,crveno,zlatno i belo,to mi je paleta boja, gde ima da se kupi pravilnik
imam pdf verziju,ali hocu original,jos jedno pitnje,kada ima ljudi u sigilu da malo probam da igram ![Question :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
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Osnovne partije su u 350 poena (trebalo bi da imas dovoljno) a sledeci nivo je 500. Knjigu Prime Remix mozes da kupis u Sigilu.
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hvala mnogo!!!! ![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Imas odlicne figure, samo napred mozes ti lepo da se igras... Ne zaboravi koristi feat cim nesto udje u tvoj control radius, a da je caster ili opaki jack ili solo...zliki wrote:Poceo sam menoth i bas su mi strava,za sada imam starter,temple flame gard,i paladina.Da li mi je to dovoljno za neku kracu partiju ili da nabavim jos modela,takodje posedujem i gajdasa.Farbam ih lubicasto,crveno,zlatno i belo,to mi je paleta boja, gde ima da se kupi pravilnikimam pdf verziju,ali hocu original,jos jedno pitnje,kada ima ljudi u sigilu da malo probam da igram
Nabavi jos jedan unit necega sto ti se svidja (zealoti sa isusom trip su a odlican unit), i hor, i redeemera i igraj se sa tim do kraja zivota ako hoces, neces morati nista da dodajes... Naravno ako ne zelis, ja eto imam 8300 poena wm/hordes i nije mi dosta...
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i stizhesh da igrash sve 4 frakcije?xclub wrote:Imas odlicne figure, samo napred mozes ti lepo da se igras... Ne zaboravi koristi feat cim nesto udje u tvoj control radius, a da je caster ili opaki jack ili solo...zliki wrote:Poceo sam menoth i bas su mi strava,za sada imam starter,temple flame gard,i paladina.Da li mi je to dovoljno za neku kracu partiju ili da nabavim jos modela,takodje posedujem i gajdasa.Farbam ih lubicasto,crveno,zlatno i belo,to mi je paleta boja, gde ima da se kupi pravilnikimam pdf verziju,ali hocu original,jos jedno pitnje,kada ima ljudi u sigilu da malo probam da igram
Nabavi jos jedan unit necega sto ti se svidja (zealoti sa isusom trip su a odlican unit), i hor, i redeemera i igraj se sa tim do kraja zivota ako hoces, neces morati nista da dodajes... Naravno ako ne zelis, ja eto imam 8300 poena wm/hordes i nije mi dosta...
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Verovali ili ne, ja sam gotovo uvek proxovao u klubu... Mrzi me da nosim...
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Nije veteran nego hrčak \:D/ ![Geek :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
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Imam jedno pitanje,na koliko poena se izvodi harbringer of menoth i koje jedinice su joj najbolja podrska.Monolith berer ide sa zilotima i kako im pomaze
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http://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/Harbinger+of+Menoth+
I ne budi lenj nego pogledaj onaj link koji ti je Bathory ostavio. Tamo mozes naci i liste i savete za svakog kastera iz Protectorata.
P.S. Protectorate je srce Cygnara!
I ne budi lenj nego pogledaj onaj link koji ti je Bathory ostavio. Tamo mozes naci i liste i savete za svakog kastera iz Protectorata.
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"The trooper can advance or run in effort to regain formation..."
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"The trooper can advance or run in effort to regain formation..."
Dule, polako gubis autoritet
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nikada nisam ni gubio autoritet, niti tvrdio drugacije. 8)
Trooperi su uvek mogli da trce (i cinili su isto), da regainuju formaciju. Pitanje je bilo : ako je jedan truper van formacije, a drugi (gazda) je u formaciji, moze li gazda da izda order run, potrci, i udje u formaciju sa truperom van formacije, a truper van formacije da samo advanceuje i napada (sto moze jer nije primio order run). Moje misljenje je bilo da moze. Truper moze, a ne MORA da trci da bi se vratio u formaciju.
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Trooperi su uvek mogli da trce (i cinili su isto), da regainuju formaciju. Pitanje je bilo : ako je jedan truper van formacije, a drugi (gazda) je u formaciji, moze li gazda da izda order run, potrci, i udje u formaciju sa truperom van formacije, a truper van formacije da samo advanceuje i napada (sto moze jer nije primio order run). Moje misljenje je bilo da moze. Truper moze, a ne MORA da trci da bi se vratio u formaciju.
Ako smo na to mislili...
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Da li su spellovi koji "last one" isto upkeep kao i "upkeep" spellovi?
U prevodu - da li mogu da imam:
1. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.)
2. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.) + 1 upkeep spell
U prevodu - da li mogu da imam:
1. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.)
2. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.) + 1 upkeep spell
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Da li su spellovi koji "last one" isto upkeep kao i "upkeep" spellovi?
U prevodu - da li mogu da imam:
1. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.)
2. vise "last one" spellova u igri na istoj meti (casteru npr.) + 1 upkeep spell
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Upkeep spelovi imaju X iliti kvacicu u koloni UP na karti.
Spell koji nema nikakvu oznaku na odgovarajucem mestu nije upkeep.
Sta definises kao "last one " nemam pojam ali gornje objasnejjne bi trebalo da je dovoljno
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Jedan od menotskih castera sa focusom 5, ima nekoliko spellova koji svi traju 1 krug... morao bih kuci da pogledam, ne znam napamet.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Amon Ad'Raza?Dzon Vejn wrote:Jedan od menotskih castera sa focusom 5, ima nekoliko spellova koji svi traju 1 krug... morao bih kuci da pogledam, ne znam napamet.
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Ne znam koji je caster... jedan od spellova daje bonus na movement i valjda ukida neke penale i sta ti ja znam sta.
Mislim da mu je feat onaj sto daje svim jackovima focus za svaki potroseni fokus.
Mislim da mu je feat onaj sto daje svim jackovima focus za svaki potroseni fokus.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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spelovi koji traju jedan turn NISU upkeeo, i mozes ih imati 1000. Upkeep su, kao sto je nikica rekao, samo oni koji imaju X pored upkeep kolone. Mageblight, mobility, dark guidance, i slicno, nisu upkeep spelovi
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aaaaaa bitno!!!
Igrali smo pogresno.
Tough nije tako los kao sto se mislilo (nije ni sjajan, ali nema veze...)
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Igrali smo pogresno.
Tough nije tako los kao sto se mislilo (nije ni sjajan, ali nema veze...)
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Dobar je Tough... Ne diraj mi Tougha...
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Sve je u redu... Samo smo do sada interpretirali tough i charge order malo drugacije. Link sve objsanjava.
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Igrali smo da ako neko sedi na d..., cela jedinica nemoze da chardzuje
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Moram priznati da se vi gubite sa pravilima za neke stvari, koje smo mi odlicno shvatili iz knjiga, a mi opet se gubimo za neke koje ste vi savrseno znali i objasnili...
Drustvo, ovo leto me je malo premorilo zbog obaveza, odoh u grcku, ali dolazim na jesen... See you until then...
Imam pitanje, kada se chargeuje sa jedinicom na nesto, da li mogu da chargeujem sa dvojicom iz unita jednu metu, a sa drugima drugu....
Drustvo, ovo leto me je malo premorilo zbog obaveza, odoh u grcku, ali dolazim na jesen... See you until then...
Imam pitanje, kada se chargeuje sa jedinicom na nesto, da li mogu da chargeujem sa dvojicom iz unita jednu metu, a sa drugima drugu....
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Unit dobije charge order, pa onda svaki truper pojedinacno bira da li ce da runuje ili chargeuje, i u koju metu ce da chargeuje...
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Nasao sam za ono sto smo trazili, Boki... Sunka je bio u pravu...Can warcaster perform a special action, and then spend focus to buy extra attacks?
Can warcaster forfeit action (for some effect, like deathchill, or something), and then spend focus to buy extra attacks?
No, and no.
If you don't take a combat action, you can't buy additional attacks. Additional attacks are something you do during your combat action. So if you forfeit it, or use it to perform a *Action, no dice.
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Kako vam deluje:
Lylith + 19 shredera u 500 pts?![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Znam da 18-19 shredera bolje radi sa Vayl, ali zanima me kako vam se cini kao ideja... ?![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
U praksi Damjan i ja smo otprilike dosli do zakljucka da nije neophodno skidati toliko fjurija sa malih smrda, posto ih protivnik ionako ubije cim prodju inicijelni kombat kada se i napune furijem. Obicno nanelsu po 3-7 dmg svaki cak i stvarima sa arm 20, a recimo kadorskog man-o-war drakhuna njih trojca skinu sa konja i pojedu zajedno sa oklopom...![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Lylith + 19 shredera u 500 pts?
![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Znam da 18-19 shredera bolje radi sa Vayl, ali zanima me kako vam se cini kao ideja... ?
![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
U praksi Damjan i ja smo otprilike dosli do zakljucka da nije neophodno skidati toliko fjurija sa malih smrda, posto ih protivnik ionako ubije cim prodju inicijelni kombat kada se i napune furijem. Obicno nanelsu po 3-7 dmg svaki cak i stvarima sa arm 20, a recimo kadorskog man-o-war drakhuna njih trojca skinu sa konja i pojedu zajedno sa oklopom...
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Izdvoji makar malo para, kupi pristojnog warlocka i jos par korisnih figura.
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Lylith i nije bas neki izbor. Ima neke odlicne osobine, ima odlicno oruzje, ali sve u svemu, mislim da je najslabiji Everblight Warlock. Svidja mi se njena osobina da automatski pogadja magijom ono sto pogodi lukom, ali su joj neke magije beskorisne protiv WM armija (Bad Blood), ili vrlo situacione. Ja bih ti predlozio da probas 350 poena sa sledecom listom: Thargosh, Carnivean, Angelius, Shredder (ili Harrier). Pored toga sto je ovo vrlo solidna 350pts lista, pruza ti dobru osnovu za dalju nadogradnju armije. Ako ipak hoces da vodis hordu Shredder-a, Vayl je mnogo bolji izbor. Ona je Warlock koji radi fantasticne stvari sa zverima, carolije su joj vrlo ubojite (Hoarfrost i Incite), ima zanimljiv feat a ima i 8 Fury poena (i samim tim, ogroman kontrolni region). Mada bih ja uz nju uvek tutnuo i jednog Carnivean-a.Mind Uploader wrote:Kako vam deluje:
Lylith + 19 shredera u 500 pts?
Znam da 18-19 shredera bolje radi sa Vayl, ali zanima me kako vam se cini kao ideja... ?
U praksi Damjan i ja smo otprilike dosli do zakljucka da nije neophodno skidati toliko fjurija sa malih smrda, posto ih protivnik ionako ubije cim prodju inicijelni kombat kada se i napune furijem. Obicno nanelsu po 3-7 dmg svaki cak i stvarima sa arm 20, a recimo kadorskog man-o-war drakhuna njih trojca skinu sa konja i pojedu zajedno sa oklopom...
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Re: Pocetnicka pitanja tj. kako poceti sa Warmachinom/Hordama
Ma, bice tu i nekih carniveana, nije problem... ![Happy :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Ovo je samo prva lista koju mogu da ofarbam u roku od dan-dva...
Nego, imam pitanje...
Da li vredi uzimati shepharda uz gomilu shredera? Rece mi Damjan da je cuo da shephard-ov abiliti ne radi na shredere?
Radi li?
U prevodu: "Animal Mastery: When a friendly Legion beast frenzies within 8" of her, she chooses the target of its rage. Any warbeast within 8" of
her taking a threshold check may opt to automatically frenzy instead of roll."
Da li radi na shredere?
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Ovo je samo prva lista koju mogu da ofarbam u roku od dan-dva...
Nego, imam pitanje...
Da li vredi uzimati shepharda uz gomilu shredera? Rece mi Damjan da je cuo da shephard-ov abiliti ne radi na shredere?
Radi li?
U prevodu: "Animal Mastery: When a friendly Legion beast frenzies within 8" of her, she chooses the target of its rage. Any warbeast within 8" of
her taking a threshold check may opt to automatically frenzy instead of roll."
Da li radi na shredere?