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Knight wrote:MK3 je golden. Iskustvo na tabli je odlicno, ja sam uspeo da odigram dosta partija i SADA nemam zamerki (mogu da oborim socnu metu i pocistim je flenkujucim sword knightovima :P )
Errata je bila nuzna da bi se ispravile gluposti (tj greske koje nastaju kada plejtesteri igraju tumaceci pravilo na odredjeni nacin ali sama konstrukcija recenice daje prostora za dodatno tumacenje koje nije predvidjeno)
ujedno su usput zatvorili vrata za potencijalni t1 assassination run - u praksi, covek koji saradjuje i postavi se tako da je t1 kill moguc svakako je jedan od onih koji najglasnije kukaju xD

Skorna moze da radi na tabli ali je postala uzasno plitka (premalo dobrih kombinacija - u Skorni vidim dve-mooozda tri liste koje bih poveo na turnir, a zabrinjavajuce je velik broj identicnih modela u svim verzijama) dok Cygnar ima barem 7 odlicnih turnirskih listi koje pritom koriste znacajno razlicite koncepte.
Problem kod Skorne je sto i tih par stvari koje rade samo mozes da kazes da su balansirane tj da covek koji ih igra optimalno ima sansu u partiju, dok Cygnar/Khador/Menoth daju liste od kojih se ocekuje da lako pobede odredjene matchupe.

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Ljudi su poceli da kukaju oko njegovog feat turna: Ako nisi spreman za isti, gubis na scenario na licu mesta.
Takodje kukaju oko njegovor spela koji te tera da se odreknes movementa ili akcije - veoma je socan kada protivnik ima low model count.
Basically it becomes a very powerful denial turn which even true sight and eyeless sight can’t ignore. Only tree walker (so Circle and Khador) can do much that round but it is basically very similar to the witch coven’s old feat. Not a problem it has just shifted the circle meta forward in certain steam roller scenarios.
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First look at tier lists

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Interesting - I can't see any huge overpoweredness. Obvious synergies with Damiano as he can run lots of units and still get armour cracking.
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Upcoming release schedule

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October 2016
Stormsmith Grenadiers – Cygnar Unit (metal)
Knights Exemplar Officer– Protectorate Command Attachment (metal)
Satyxis Gunslingers – Cryx Unit (metal)
Tiberion – Skorne Titan Heavy Warbeast (metal/resin resculpt)

November 2016
Conquest/Victor – Khadoran Colossal Warjack (plastic)
Hammerfall Siege Crawler – Mercenary Rhulic Battle Engine (plastic)
Major Harrison Gibbs-Mercenary Llaelese Trencher Solo (metal)
Megalith—Circle Orboros Heavy Warbeast (metal/resin resculpt)
Blighted Nyss Warlord— Legion of Everblight Solo (metal)
Praetorian Karax Commander & Standard—Skorne Command Attachment (metal/resin)
Farrow Brigands/Farrow Commandos– Minions Unit (plastic)
No Quarter #69

December 2016
Guardian/Indictor-Protectorate of Menoth Heavy Warjack Kit (plastic)
Forces of HORDES: Trollbloods Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Thumper/Pummler-Trollbloods Weapon Crew (plastic)
Madrak (III), Great Chieftan-Trollbloods Warlock (metal/resin)
Storm Raptor-Circle Orboros Gargantuan (plastic)
Tharn Wolf Rider Champion-Circle Orboros Solo (metal/resin)


January 2017
Forces of HORDES: Protectorate of Menoth Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Sovereign Tristan Durant (Tristan II) - Protectorate Warcaster (metal)
Feora, The Conquering Flame (Feora III) - Protectorate Warcaster (Metal/Resin)
Eye of Truth - Protectorate Warjack (Metal/Resin)
Helios/Hyperion - Retribution Colossal Warjack (hard plastic)
Desert Hydra - Skorne Gargantuan Warbeast (hard plastic)
No Quarter #70
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Meh.
Until we see that errata, PP might as well postpone all releases.
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Stevo, Stevo, pogresan ti je to stav - meni je ovo prvi put da me nova edicija neke igre nije ni najmanje zanimala u smislu modela ;). Jer sam kupovao modele koji mi se svidjaju ;). Ja cu recimo svakako uzeti i raptora kad se pojavi i elderhorna u nekom trenutku i Unu The Falconer, iako ne rade nista ;). Ali su lepi :).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Una je kljucni deo Tannith turnirske liste, munchkine jedan! ;)
Pazi, u zadnja dva-tri meseca WM kod nas igraju 4 coveka, igra je blizu izumiranja. Serija losih poteza PP-a ce ako nista omoguciti da se jeftino udje u hobi - sekundarno trziste je prepuno armija - ali zasto bih kupovao nesto ako neces imati s kime da se igras.

Pritom nemaju hrabrosti da rese probleme u mehanici igre vec rade prepravke na nivou modela - samo iskoci novi talas problema, to smo vec videli sa raznim composition ogranicenjima kojima su pokusavali da poprave Warhammer fantasy.

Ja se poslednjih par nedelja zapravo lepse zabavljam igrajuci moje 40k bajkere, tu me barem igra ne laze da je ozbiljno izbalansirana,a fluff je neizmerno bolji,
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To što četvoro ljudi aktivno dolazi do kluba ne znači da niko više ne igra Warmahordes. Ja recimo još nemam sklopljenu armiju (još malo pa završavam Mk2 battlebox) i retko sam u mogućnosti da dolazim do kluba da farbam. Ne verujem da sam jedini koji je prostorno-vremenski ograničen u tom pogledu.
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WMH se ne igra, jer nemas vise tih par ljudi koji ce da zvrckaju telefonom ostale da dodju. Na dnevnom nivou.

Ja licno nisam stekao neki utisak da nova edicija nije balansirana, da ce izumreti, niti sam doziveo promene kod Orborosa kao doom & gloom :). Sasvim sigurno ih necu prodati, i to je prva armija za koju to mogu kazem, upravo zato sto sam kupovao modele koji mi se svidjaju, a ne one koji su mi potrebni za turnire ;).

Ja u narednih godinu dana sigurno necu biti u mogucnosti da se igram, zbog kolicine obaveza koje imam i nemogucnosti da odvojim 1 popodne cisto onako za igranje. Ako se neko bude igrao WMH i tada, Orborosi ce uredno cekati u torbi, lepi i ofarbani :).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Knight wrote:Una je kljucni deo Tannith turnirske liste, munchkine jedan! ;)
Serija losih poteza PP-a ce ako nista omoguciti da se jeftino udje u hobi - sekundarno trziste je prepuno armija - ali zasto bih kupovao nesto ako neces imati s kime da se igras.
Yes and no. Cryx, Everblight and Skorne armies were (and are) cheap on line while Orboros, Retribution and Khador have been buying up quite well. The were several problems in the cross-over to Mk3 and it may bounce back or cool down. Exactly the same thing happened when MK2 hit - for 2 years I think Nemanja and I were the only people playing regularly with Stef and Dalibor occasionally having a game. In the UK loads of people left when Age of Sigmar dropped and now people are coming back to it. A new edition means new expense, new learning and power models and lots of players don't want to invest the time or money. I think several people are gone for good and the sad thing is we will struggle to get new players into the game until there is a bit of a buzz about it. MK3 problems include;
  • -The changeover to MK3 wasn't done that well by PP (low stocks, drip feeding spoilers and seeming to get peeved by the card leak, early erratas etc)
    -The player base here was too lazy to organise themselves and no one organised them to get decks and build up an anticipation for the changeover
    -There is no pressganger nor anyone willing to become one so no regular events or someone engaging the community
    -Fractured player base with certain players unwilling to play against others in a small community
    -Several of the more proactive player base now have young kids and have dropped out
But it is important to note MK3 is fine and an improvement on MK2 just as MK2 was an improvement on MK1. It is the change not the edition that is painful. Certain things are stronger but it is not like MK2 Cryx were every caster was overpowered and at the head of a selection of units that were overpowered OR MK2 Everblight which ignored just about every rule in the game. There is no dominant faction there are dominant casters and several faction have a few. Could it be better? Yes but IT IS BETTER.
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I think January will see some Skorne beasts dropping in point cost and maybe cataphracts going back up to 8 wounds or gaining an ARM version of defensive line. Cryx will get some stealth back or some casters will get Occultation. A few solos will gain points costs and a few special rules will be altered on Warmachine casters and maybe the cost of one or two jacks increased. A lot of small changes to see how that affects the balance.
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Skorne needs something bad. They pooped it up on that one. Fingers crossed, for Hydra and her rules revamp. Gorgeous model, shittiest gargantuan ever.
As for Mk3 transit vs mk2 transit, i disagree. They pooped that one also. I was around when mk2 hit, (yes i am that old, in fact, i was around since prime, third warmachine army in serbia, after bojan and dalibor, was probably me), and mk1>mk2 transit was waaay better and more organized than this hodgepodge. For one privateer press openly lied to its buyers (thorough 3 year playtesting, bull), majorly overpowered warmachine in comparison to hordes, completely obliterated playstyle of one faction (cryx... and for the second time, as they did it in mk2 also. And yes , they were the strongest in mk2, but it is NOT the point, the point is they did not tone it down, they did not get them in line, they COMPLETELY changed how the faction plays), and completely and without any real reason, blasted the skorne to rock bottom ( the faction with least tournament wins in mk2, barring mercs/minions, heck even mercs i believe had more thanks to thor/colossal shenaningans).
They wrote their rules so poorly, that, when mk3 hit the stores, with printed books and everything, you could not charge knocked down models, and GAstone Crosse could not be legaly fielded in any army (merc included). Truth is, they got sloppy, they got panicked that Guild ball started to steal their fanbase and best players, and they dropped a half-finished and unpolished product on us prematurely.
And now, trust is lost, but there appears to be a road ahead. At least they admitted the problem, and promised to fix it.
As for me personally, all my WM related purchases are on hold (and i have almost entire Skorne army and most Menoth, and pretty large Merc collection) until i see what they will do in december/january errata/fixup. That will make or break the deal for me.
In the meantime, i am buying my 3rd guild for guild ball. Feels and plays like old warmachine used to be, fast, dynamic and brainy.
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Yes the transition was better to MK2 but the game still died here at that point.
MK3 could have been done better - of that there's no doubt but if you ignore the dopey mistakes (charges, flank and gang on knocked down models, certain glaringly obvious interaction errors) which have or are being rectified, the game has improved. If you listed all the problems with MK2 in which Cryx and Hordes completely invalidated Jack heavy lists and defined an infantry heavy playstyle for warmachine which Cryx dominated - this in a huge leap forward. Currently Hordes warbeasts are overpriced. The beasts that stayed relatively the same from MK2 to MK3 are 1-2 points overcosted and the ones that were nerfed (so a lot of Skorne's) are 2-3 or even 3-4 points overcosted. Cryx and Skorne need some anti shooting tech and the game is pretty much there. This should have been play-tested wider, released in a better and more organised way but to be fair lots of meta's rolled with it if they wanted to. Ours has loads of issues and there is a lot of history/politics whatever.
As for Cryx.
MK1 - Bane Knights with that dopey Spirit Shift dominate the mid field with Mechanithralls and Bile thralls having WAY too much threat and any of the casters threaten caster assassination or debuff tougher targets through arc nodes or through crushing feats.
MK 2 - Bane Thralls with stealth, tough, free stand up or recursioning mechanithralls or incorporeal recursioning units dominate the mid field and most of the casters threaten caster assassination or buff their own armies or debuff enemy tougher targets through arc nodes or through crushing feats.
Mk 3 - No outright dominating infantry and so a necessary switch to a mix of jacks and [Satyxis] to have a DEF skew. No easy button that shuts down gun lines (which no other faction ever had). Casters are still great and can still threaten assassination or buff their own armies or debuff enemy tougher targets through arc nodes or through crushing feats.
No massive change in play style across the systems if you ask me and to be honest - looks spot on.

Just to be clear I am just listing what new stuff is coming out as this is a new model thread - not advocating playing Warmachine/Hordes. I don't make any money off the game and mostly lose money whenever I get involved. I believe the game has improved (recently played in an amazing event in Budapest with a fantastic group of guys), there are still issues but I think if people were honest with themselves the reasons not to play are completely unrelated to the rule set.
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Oh and out of interest Nemanja also played in the Hungarian masters and went 3 and 1 beating 2 Cygnar and a Khador list and losing only to Skorne.
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http://www.captiongenerator.com/196742/ ... on-Karchev
This really made me laugh both times I watched it.
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It's sad actually - end of that joke is precisely the reason game is losing players, no one want to jump into the game with pending erratas...

Heck, crappy Guildball is handling things better, giving insight to playerbase about the direction game will turn into, adjusting balance..not lying about 3 years of testing..stuff like that. :P
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Lololololollol, everyone cries because of Karchev, who would have thought :D
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Oh come on Steva don't be so dramatic. I genuinely think MK3 is an improvement, truly I do - but the rhetoric that the game is now perfect is very obviously bullshit and PP deserves to be called out on it and teased mercilessly.
With regards to this - I find it hilarious - a toothless little Mexican dude pissing himself laughing is so perfect.
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MK3 improvements, all factions are balanced, competitive and equal... Clogcon, 17 circle players :-P

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Sta, vidis da imaju i 2 pairinga u kojima nema makar 1 circle igrac :).

Sta sada igraju kod circle-a?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Read the comment below. Circle is the first faction alphabetically and when people signed up they were all listed at Circle and then later changed to their actual faction - but not all were changed. Circle did win the event - a player with Una 2 I believe and they are definitely on top of the Hordes game. No-one is denying PP have made several huge mistakes with regards to game balance but luckily no one here plays skew lists and is prepared to buy the multiples of the same models in order to do that.
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January 2017
Forces of Warmachine: Protectorate of Menoth Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Sovereign Tristan Durant (Tristan II) - Protectorate Warcaster (metal)
Feora, The Conquering Flame (Feora III) - Protectorate Warcaster (Metal/Resin)
Eye of Truth - Protectorate Warjack (Metal/Resin)
Helios/Hyperion - Retribution Colossal Warjack (hard plastic)
Desert Hydra - Skorne Gargantuan Warbeast (hard plastic)
No Quarter #70

February 2017
Forces of Hordes: Circle Orboros Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Thorn Gun Mages - Mercenary Llaelese Unit (Metal)
Colbie Sterling, Leader of the BRI (Variant) - Mercenary Solo (Metal)
Horgle the Anvil - Trollbloods Warlock (Metal/Resin)
Kaya the Wildheart - Circle Orboros Warlock (Metal/Resin)
Loki - Circle Orboros Character Warbeast (Metal/Resin)
Una the Skyhunter - Circle Orboros Warlock (Metal)
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No purchases until errata for me. Wanna see them own up on their Skorne promise.
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I know - and think most people are in that situation. I don't order or sell WM/H anymore (except my own stuff :wink: ) and am doing this just as information and to promote discussion.
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I like Kaya3, and i'm a bit late for commenting on it, but Megalith looks great now.
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Kaya 3 looks amazing both rules wise and model wise
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Really interesting read regarding the state of the game

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http://www.courageofcaspia.com/2016/11/ ... level.html

Written by one of the recognised top players in Europe.

S-tier: Khador
A-tier: Circle, Retribution, Cygnar
B-tier: Minions, Protectorate, Mercenaries, Trollbloods
C-tier: Legion, Cryx, Skorne
D-tier: Convergence

Convergence will just struggle big time no matter what their pairing is. They will have glaring holes and especially against the powerhouse factions. I'm sad to see them this low. Legion, Cryx and Skorne are a little better off. Legion has some solid builds in Vayl2, Lylyth3 and Absylonia2 for example, but regardless of how you mix these you will have significant holes in your pairing. Cryx has Skarre12, Deneghra1 and Coven, but again we see some rather big, big problems here. Skorne has a single powerful build, Makeda2 kitkat. This is playable into a ton of builds and downright favourable against multiple of the powerhouse pairings. However almost everything else in Skorne is crap.

The next tier consists of factions which have fairly solid options but tend to rely heavily on a crutch or two to stay competitive. Minions have Rask, Protectorate have the High Reclaimer, Mercenaries have Ossrum/Magnus2 and Trollbloods have Madrak2. In and of itself the need to rely on a crutch doesn't make you less competitive, but these crutches are fairly polarized in my experience and the top factions have decent answers.

The top factions at the moment I consider to be Retribution, Cygnar, Khador and Circle. They all have a handful of competitively viable casters and can play a number of combinations of pairings with good faction coverage. These factions all have really solid options, ranging from Arcanist Mechaniks to Thorn, Rifle Corps Rocketeers to Sentry Stones etc. They also have some of the best casters in the game, e.g. Wurmwood, Haley3, Karchev, but unlike the tier below these casters aren't as essential to the faction's strength. Remove Karchev from the game entirely for example and I still consider Khador top 4.
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Pretty acurate. Except skorne.Grevious wounds (which are everywhere nowadays) kills Makeda2 kitkat dead.
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Annnnnnnndddddd go!
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Fingers crossed.
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March 2017

Forces of WARMACHINE: Cygnar Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Forces of HORDES: Legion of Everblight Command (soft cover and hard cover)
Captain Allison Jakes - Cygnar Warcaster (Metal)
Brickhouse - Cygnar Heavy Character Warjack (Metal/Resin)
Caine's Hellslingers - Mercenary Warcaster Unit (Metal)
Fyanna, Torment of Everblight - Legion Strider Warlock (Metal)
Kallas, Devastation of Everblight - Legion Warlock (Metal/Resin)
Azrael - Legion Heavy Nephilim Character Warbeast (Metal/Resin)
No Quarter #71

Considering I have Everblight and Cygnar and am a completionist - March is going to a very expensive month.
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April 2017

Hurricane/Stormwall – Cygnar Colossal Warjack Kit (plastic)

Forces of WARMACHINE: Khador Command (soft cover)
Forces of WARMACHINE: Khador Command (hard cover)
Kommander Andrei Malakov – Khador Warcaster (metal)
Greylord Forge Seer – Khador Solo (metal/resin)
Assault Kommander Strakov – Khador Warcaster Unit (metal)

Forces of WARMACHINE: Cryx Command (soft cover)
Forces of WARMACHINE: Cryx Command (soft cover)
Captain Aiakos – Cryx Warcaster (metal)
Mortenebra, Numen of the Necrogenesis – Cryx Warcaster (metal/resin)
Kharybdis – Cryx Heavy Warjack (metal/resin)
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somebody ran out of inspiration and visited malyfaux
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Re: MK3 Novi Modeli Hotness

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Baš sam o tome razmišljao. Ako ništa drugo, imaćemo dobar izvor alternativnih modela.
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Re: MK3 Novi Modeli Hotness

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Pendargon wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:36 am somebody ran out of inspiration and visited malyfaux
Yup
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Re: MK3 Novi Modeli Hotness

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I like their fluff. This whole thing about them defying the curse placed upon them by Menoth makes the whole metaphysics of Iron Kingdoms more dynamic. If they could fight his divine will, perhaps they could top him over as well.
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Also this whole thing about their warlocks not having "normal" feats like other warlocks sounds cool on paper. How it would look like on table remains to be seen.
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Đura_Samurajac wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:47 pm If they could fight his divine will, perhaps they could top him over as well.
Sure. Morrow couldn't do it. Thamar couldn't do it. The bloody Devourer Worm is trill trying but nothing. But maybe Jack Skellington & Co can succeed where everyone else failed? :mrgreen:

Still, the Scraplossus looks impresive. Although now they're on the same base, I assume the arc node will be some sort of spell range amplifier.
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Re: MK3 Novi Modeli Hotness

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TheSerbianRaven wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:26 am
Đura_Samurajac wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:47 pm If they could fight his divine will, perhaps they could top him over as well.
Sure. Morrow couldn't do it. Thamar couldn't do it. The bloody Devourer Worm is trill trying but nothing. But maybe Jack Skellington & Co can succeed where everyone else failed? :mrgreen:
To every "couldn't do it", one can add "not yet" and "Menoth couldn't top him/her/it either". So maybe Jack Skellington & Co actualy can do as much as everyone else :grin: . Which doesn' realy make them look unrealisticaly strong, but makes Menoth (and Wyrm by extension, Morrow and Tamar not so much in my opinion) look really weak in comparison :mrgreen: .
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