Agram Arene 2009!

[st1v xtr1m]

Evo ove godine malo ranija pozivnica, ali zato sto sadrzi pozive na SVE arene koje odrzavamo - 40k, Painting Competition, LOTR, Fantasy.
Ove godine je fantasy turnir pomaknut tjedan dana ranije kako se ne bi poklapao sa vasim blagdanom (Sveti Nikola ako se ne varam?) pa se nadamo da ce te doci ove godine.

Naravno da cu vas jos podsjetit na svaki turnir kojih mjesec-dva prije istoga, ali evo i sad da stavite na kalendare i da imate na umu 8-)

(i na hrv i na eng, da ne bi bilo izgubljenih u prevodu :lol: )

Dragi prijatelji !

Ove godine po prvi put unaprijed najavljujemo sva Meðunarodna natjecanja u igranju stolnih strateških igara Agram Arena (Summer i Winter 2009.).

U ljeto se igra, kao i posljednjih sedam godina, Warhammer 40.000, Lord of the Rings te po se treći put zaredom održava i Natjecanje u bojanju minijatura "Crna kraljica". U zimu se, kao i uvijek, igra Warhammer Fantasy Battles!

AAS održavat će se 11.-12.07.2009. (Warhammer 40.000 i Crna kraljica) te 18.-19.07.2009. (Lord of the Rings) u MS "Cvjetni trg", Zagreb, Miškecov prolaz 3/1.
AAW održavat će se 12-13.12.2009. godine (Warhammer Fantasy Battles). Lokacija tog turnira će biti naknadno objavljena.

Ulaz je BESPLATAN za sve natjecatelje i posjetitelje !

Osvježavajuća pića za vrijeme turnira bit će besplatna za sve sudionike turnira.
Za sve zainteresirane možemo naručiti i ručak po cijeni od 75Kn za oba dva dana (odn. 37,50 Kn za jedan dan) kao i smještaj za petak odn. nedjelju - po cijeni od 105Kn / noć.

Smještaj (za natjecatelje) za subotu - iznosit će 75 Kn!

Sve minijature na svim natjecanjima moraju biti obojane !

Max. broj sudionika na AAS (WH40k): 30 !
Max. broj sudionika na AAS (Crna kraljica): neograničen !
Max. broj sudionika na AAS (LOTR): 20 !
Max. broj sudionika na AAW : 64 !

Po prvi puta, ove godine su objedinjena sva pravila svih natjecanja i nalaze se na našim stranicama na slijedećem linku:
http://www.ums-agram.hr/dokumenti/Agram ... 202009.pdf
Ovdje valja napomenuti da su pravila za igru Lord of the Rings i za Natjecanje u bojanju minijatura Crna kraljica konačna i neće se mijenjati, dok su za igre WH40k i WHFB iznesena samo okvirna pravila da bi igrači mogli već sada krenuti slagati svoje liste. Konačna pravila će biti objavljena najkasnije 30 dana prije samog natjecanja.

Prijave za AAS (WH40k) - od 15.06. do 04.07. (upute kako i gdje se prijaviti nalaze se u pravilima (gornji link)) !
Prijave za AAS (Crna kraljica) - nisu potrebne ukoliko ne trebate smještaj. Ako je smještaj potreban prijave traju do 04.07. (upute kako i gdje se prijaviti nalaze se u pravilima (gornji link)) !
Prijave za AAS (LOTR) - od 15.06. do 11.07. (upute kako i gdje se prijaviti nalaze se u pravilima (gornji link)) !
Prijave za AAW - od 15.11. do 05.12. (upute kako i gdje se prijaviti nalaze se u pravilima (gornji link)) !

Sva Vaša pitanja možete postaviti na [email protected] !

Radujemo se vašem dolasku !

Marko Paunović,
predsjednik UMS "Agram"

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Dear friends !

This year, for the first time, we are announcing all of our International tournaments Agram Arena (Summer and Winter 2009.).

Agram Arena Summer, just as previous seven years, consists of Warhammer 40.000, Lord of the Rings tournaments and, for the third year running, the "Black Queen" Miniature painting competition.
Agram Arena Winter, as always, consists of Warhammer Fantasy Battles tournament!

AAS will be held on 11.-12.July 2009. (Warhammer 40.000 i "Black Queen" MPC) and 18.-19.July 2009. (Lord of the Rings) in MS "Cvjetni trg", Miškecov prolaz 3/1, Zagreb, Croatia.
AAW will be held on 12-13.December 2009. (Warhammer Fantasy Battles). The location of the tournament will be announced in due time (but also in Zagreb, Croatia ! ).

Entry: FREE !

Refreshing drinks for all players will be free during the tournament !

Accommodation for Saturday is 75kn (10 Euro)!

Accommodation for Friday or Sunday night are available @ the price of 14 Euro.

Lunch is available at the price of 75 Kn (10 Euro) for both days (= 5 Euro/day) !

Special offer:
For all the non-Croatian players who are attending one of our tournaments for the first time, the one night accomodation (Saturday night) and both days' lunches will be free of charge!

All models must be painted !
Max. number of participants at AAS (WH40k): 30 !
Max. number of participants at AAS (Black Queen MPC): Unlimited !
Max. number of participants at AAS (LOTR): 20 !
Max. number of participants at AAW (WHFB): 64

Check out the tournament rules at http://www.ums-agram.hr/dokumenti/Agram ... 202009.pdf
It is important to stress here that while the rulespack for the Lord of the Rings tournament and The Black Queen Miniature Painting Competition are final and won't change, the rulespacks for the WH40k and WHFB are provisional only. They are just for reference so you can start preparing your armylists. The final rulespacks will be on-line at least 30 days before each event.

Official languages of all the events will be English and Croatian (while Croatian is alternative, knowledge of the English language is a must for all participants)!

Registration:
AAS (WH40k) - from 15.06. until 04.07. (you can find guidelines on registration in the rules (check out the above link)) !
AAS (Black Queen) - not neccessary unless you need accomodation. If the accomodation is needed, please register by 04.07. (you can find guidelines on registration in the rules (check out the above link)) !
AAS (LOTR) - from 15.06. until 11.07. (you can find guidelines on registration in the rules (check out the above link)) !
AAW (WHFB) - from 15.11. until 05.12. (you can find guidelines on registration in the rules (check out the above link)) !

If you need any other information please contact us at [email protected] or GSM +385 91 7620584 !

Welcome !

Marko Paunović,
president of UMS "Agram"

[PeraNekron]

8O .....a zasto se 40k turnir igra po cetvrtoj ediciji, kada je peta aktuelna?.... Molim za objasnjenje. Verujem da vecinu zanima.

[st1v xtr1m]

Naravno da se ne igra po 4., to su pravila od prosle godine... Kao sto pise, pravila tamo napisana nisu finalna, nego samo okvirno stavljena proslogodisnja da ljudi znaju sto ocekivati.

[Shunka]

Ljudi, meni se ide na Summer Arenu. Da li cu igrati Confront, Warmachine, ili cu se zapravo iscimati da ucestvujem na 40k turniru nekako mi je manje bitno... Ko jos razmislja ici?

[PeraNekron]

...li cu se zapravo iscimati da ucestvujem na 40k turniru....

Sta ovo treba da znaci, Shunka? 8) I tebi se igra ova razbibriga,a?

[Hypodermic]

Ja 99% idem (a voleo bih i da neko od njih dodje ovamo kod nas), tako da sunka fali nam jos jedan za onu voznu kartu.

[Shunka]

Sta ovo treba da znaci, Shunka? 8) I tebi se igra ova razbibriga,a?

Nikad ja nisam osporavao 40k... Dobro, jesam, ali to je bilo davno i nisam imao pojma.

[Kirgan]

Mudro to nedelju dana ranije za fantasy 99% dolazim 8)

[st1v xtr1m]

Pozdrav svima opet!

Kako se blizi datum naseg Warhammer Fantasy turnira Agram Arena Winter 2009, polako finaliziramo rules pack.

Datum je 95% sigurno da ce biti 12. i 13. Decembra 2009. (12-13.12.2009.), dobrim dijelom kako bi ljudi koji imaju Slavu 19.12. mogli sudjelovati na turniru

Nadam se da ce vas ove godine doci vise nego prosle 8)

Slijedi mali preview naseg ACa za ovu godinu:

Army Composition

Each army starts with 5 AC points and can have a maximum of -5 penalty points (for a total of 0 AC points). These AC points are added to the generalship score and, before first round, the pairings are done according to them.
Please note that -5 is not a big penalty and that it doesn’t matter much if you have -2 or -4. The point of this army comp is to define “legal lists”, not to interfere much with the overall score.
Army Comp is made in order to allow competitive lists while eliminating the cheese. We hope that army lists will be very different from each other, since some players might bring a strong magic phase, other will take close combat, shooting heavy lists, or a balanced ‘little bit of everything’ approach.
Judges reserve the right to add or subtract a penalty score as they see fit! Since Army Comp can hardly be perfect, if judges spot a loop holes in the rules, they may give additional penalty. Also, if a list clearly goes out of its way to be nice and fluffy, judges can grant it bonus AC point. In such occasions, players will be notified of the extra changes in due time before the tournament.

2.1 Characters (only the highest penalty):
Total points spend on characters is between 750 and 849 pts.: -1
Total points spend on characters is between 850 and 949 pts.: -2
Total points spend on characters is between 950 and 1049 pts.: -3
Total points spend on characters is 1050 pts. or more: -4
* All mounts are counted under characters cost, however Anvil of Doom, Cauldron of Blood and Casket of Souls are not
2.2 Units:
Every same Core slot after the second, except rank and file infantry without shooting: -1
Every same Special slot after the second: -2
Every same Rare slot after the first: -3
Every unit and single model with Fly rule after the second: -2
Each war machine (including Skaven weapons teams) after the second: -2
Each unit that has basic AS 4+ or better AND US 2+ per model*, after the third: -2
* Do not count single models (like chariots) and characters
Each chariot (or unit of chariots for tomb kings) after the second: -2
* Do not count chariots used as character mounts
Each unit of Skirmishers after the third: -1
* Units of Flyers also count as skirmishers
Every army that has more units with shooting and war machines than units without shooting: -1
* Do not count characters and chariots with missile weapons, but do count each war machine, monsters and all characters with magical bows or arrows
2.3. Magic:
- Always count in the basic PD and DD
- Each Power Die (PD) army generates after the seventh: -1
- Bound Items/Spells, one use only Bound Items (regardless of power) and Power Stones = 1 PD
- Each ability that gives knowledge of all spells from a Magic Lore counts as 1 PD
- Each Dispel die (DD) army generates after the seventh: -1
- Scrolls count as 1 DD each. Scrolls with secondary effect count as 2 DD
Tomb Kings count their Power Dice:
- do not count the basic two PD
- Tomb Prince 1 PD
- Tomb King 2 PD
- Liche Priest 3 PD
- Liche High Priest 5 PD
- Casket of Souls 3 PD
2.3 Special penalties and Exceptions:
- All Large Target characters or characters mounted on Large Target mounts: -1
- All magic Banners of 75Pts or more: -1

Beasts of Chaos:
- Penalty for 3rd chariot is -1 (with a penalty for 3rd same core unit total is -2), for 4th is -2 (total of -5)
Bretonnia:
- Each unit of Pegasus after the first an additional: -1
- Knights Errant and Realm Knights are considered to be the same unit for core troops penalty (for instance 2 KotR and 1 KE unit wound generate -1 penalty)
Daemons of Chaos:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Daemonic Gifts are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies no matter if units have shooting or not
- For each unit of Flesh Hounds after the first an additional: -2
- For every Flesh Hound model in a single unit after the 5th: -1
- Each Flamer model in a unit after the 4th: -1
- Greater Daemons of Nurgle and Tzeentch give an additional: -1
- Greater Daemons of Slaanesh gives an additional: -2
- Greater Daemon of Khorne gives an additional: -3
- All Greater Daemons take a Rare slot
- For each mounted Herald (except chariot mounts) after the first: -1
- If the Army Standard bearer has Gifts as well as a Daemonic Icon: -1
- Tzeentch’s Will counts as 1 PD
- Siren Song, Immortal Fury and Standard of Chaos Glory count as a Rare slot
* If a Daemon Prince has Immortal Fury then it does not count as a Rare slot
Dark Elves:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Ring of Hotek counts as 2 DD
- Sacrificial Dagger counts as 2 PD
- For every unit of Black Guard after the first an additional: -1
- For every shade model in a single unit after the 9th: -1
- War Hydra: -1, if there is also a Dragon or a Cauldron present in the army then: -2
- 2nd War Hydra suffers an additional penalty and is therefore illegal
- Black Dragon gives an additional: -2
- Magic Items Pendant of Kaeleth, Ring of Hotek and Standard of Hag Graef count as a Rare slot
- Each Assassin counts as a Special, Rare or a character slot (if it counts as a character slot, then his points are counted towards the total character cost)
Dogs of War:
- Arsanil the Dragonlord gives an additional: -1
- One character may buy a 5+ ward save Talisman for 30 points
Dwarfs:
- Anvil of Doom counts as a war machine
- For every unit of Hammerers after the first an additional: -1
- Flame Cannon and Cannon generate only -1 for the war machine penalty (for instance 2 bolts and 2 cannons would generate a total of -2 penalty)
- Gyrocopter does not count as a war machine or as a shooting unit for the purpose of this Army Composition.
- Master Rune of Balance counts as 1 DD
Empire:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Steam Tank: -2
- Steam Tank counts as a war machine and a 4+ armor save unit as well as suffering its basic penalty
- Each Crossbowmen and Swordsmen detachment counts as a separate choice (E.G. an army including a unit of Crossbowmen and two Crossbow detachments would suffer a penalty)
- Aldred's Casket of Sorcery counts as 1 PD
- Rod of Power counts as 2 PD
- Count Arch Lector as level 2 mage and Warrior Priests as level 1 mages
- War Altar gives an additional -1 penalty and counts as 2 PD
- Mortar and Rocket Battery count as -1 for war machine penalties (For example 1 Cannon and 2 Mortars generate -1. Also, 2 Cannons and 1 Mortar generate -1.)
High Elves:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Banner of Sorcery counts as 2 PD
- Every same Special slot after the first (expect Tyranoc Chariots, Silver Helms and Shadow Warriors) an additional: -1
- Annulian Crystal counts as 1 DD
- HE Dragon mage counts as 1 PD more then his level
- Penalty for Rare slots applies after 2nd
- Moon Dragon gives an additional: -1
- Star Dragon counts as a Rare slot and gives an additional: -2
Lizardmen:
- Mounts for Skinks take the appropriate Special or Rare slots (except if mounted on a Terradon)
- For the purpose of determining number of units with shooting, rank and file skinks are considered to be neither shooting nor not shooting units. Rank and file skinks with one or more Kroxigor with them are considered to be a not shooting unit
- Carnosaur: -1
- For every unit of Terradons after the first: -2
- Each Terradon model in a unit after the 4th: -1
- Each Stegadon and/or Ancient Stegadon after the 1st: -1
- Horn of Kygor counts as a Special slot
- Diadem of Power counts as 1 DD
- Cupped Hands count as a 1 DD
- Slann Discipline Becalming Cogitation counts as 2 DD
- Slann Discipline Focused Rumination counts as 3 PD
Ogre Kingdoms:
- Second Gorger gives a total of -2 as a second Rare slot
Orcs and Goblins:
- Penalty for war machines is applied after the 3rd machine
- Morks Spirit Totem counts as 2 DD
- Staff of Sneaky Stealin' counts as 1 DD
Skaven:
- Grey Seer counts as generating 5 power dice for the purpose of this Army Composition
- Warpstone Tokens do not count as power dice unless they were bought additionally
- Penalty for skirmishers is applied after the 4th unit
- Screaming Bell counts as 2 PD
- Eye of the Horned Rat counts as 1 PD
- For every unit of Jezzails after the first an additional: -1
- For every Jezzail model after 14: -1
Tomb King:
- Hieratic Jar counts as 1 Power Die for the Liche Priest and 2 Power Dice for the Liche High Priest
- Casket of Souls counts as 1 DD
- Second Catapult suffers a total of -4
- Third Liche Priest gives an additional -1 penalty
Vampire Counts:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Bloodline Powers are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies, no matter if units have shooting or not
- For every unit of Black Knights after the first an additional: -1, Blood Knights also count as Black Knights (for example a unit of Black Knights and a unit of Blood Knights would generate a -1 penalty. 2 units of Black and one unit of Blood Knights would generate -4)
- Black Periapt counts as 1 PD
- Skulstaff counts as 2 PD
- Corpse Cart normally counts as 1PD, with Balefire it also counts as 1 DD
- If the Vampire lord has movement greater then 6 (with the use of Magic Items, Bloodlines or Mounts): -1
- Zombie Dragon gives an additional: -1
- Magic Items Helm of Commandment, Dreadlance and Drakenhof Banner count as a Rare slot
- Each Wraith model in a unit after the 4th: -1
- Any Double Rare slot suffers a total of: -4
- If both Rare slots are used up: -1
Warriors of Chaos:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- For the rule “Each unit that has basic AS 4+ or better AND US 2+ per model, after the third: -2” count the following: Chaos Ogres (if they buy Chaos Armor), Dragon Ogres, Chaos Knights, Shaggoth and the Hellcannon
- Hellcannon: -1
- Giant, if he has Mark of Slaanesh: -1
- Tendrils of Tzeentch counts as 1 PD
- Infernal Puppet counts as 1 DD, if Black Tongue is also present then as 2 DD
- Skull of Katam and Book of Secrets count as 1 PD each
- Each unit of Chaos Knights after the first an additional: -1
- Chaos Dragon gives an additional: -2
- If Spell Familiar is used on Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch it counts as 1 PD
Wood Elves:
- Treeman: -1
- 2nd Treeman suffers an additional penalty and is therefore illegal
* Treeman and Treeman Ancient are considered to be the same unit type for the purpose of this army composition.
- Wand of the Wych Elm counts as 1 DD
- Each unit of Wild Riders after the first an additional: -1
- Green Dragon gives an additional: -1

There is also a ladder for armies:
"Strong" armies: Vampire Counts, Daemons of Chaos, Dark Elves, Lizardmen
"Weak" armies: Orks & Goblins, Beastmen, Dogs of War, Ogre Kingdoms

This ladder means nothing, EXCEPT when weak armies play against strong armies, weak armies get 10% extra Victory points at the end of the battle.
Example:
VC kills 1000 pts of OnG army.
OnG kills 1000 pts of VC army. OnG gets extra 100 pts for total of 1100.

Komentari vezani za AC i slicno mogu slobodno ovdje u ovaj topic (zbog guzve cu samo njega provjeravati, vi slobodno drugdje komentirajte, samo ne obecajem da cu te komentare vidjeti) ili na moj mail, [email protected]

Jos bih vas samo zamolio sve koji planiraju doci da mi jave (isto ovdje u ovaj topic ili na mail), tek toliko da vidimo mi okvirno koliko ce ljudi doci iz kojih zemalja. Nista obvezujuce, ali bio bih zahvalan ako bi se javili samo oni koji stvarno misle ici :D
Sluzbene prijave ce kao i uvijek, nekih mjesec dana ranije ili tako...

Vidimo se na turniru u Beogradu

[orome pancevo]

8O
Koliko pravila!
mrzi me da citam...

[PeraNekron]

Naucna fantastika....

[st1v xtr1m]

8O
Koliko pravila!
mrzi me da citam...

Pa ne moras sve, samo one osnovne i za svoju vojsku :D

[st1v xtr1m]

A evo i sluzbene najave te gotovog rules packa 8-)

Dragi prijatelji !

Dolazi vrijeme za sedmo po redu međunarodno natjecanje u igranju stolnih strateških igara, pod nazivom Agram Arena Winter (2009.)!

Igrat će se Warhammer Fantasy Battles!

AAW održavat će se 12-13.12.2008. godine u galeriji "Zvonimir", Bauerova 33, Zagreb.

Ulaz je BESPLATAN za natjecatelje i posjetitelje !

Osvježavajuća pića za vrijeme turnira biti će besplatna za sve sudionike turnira.

Za sve zainteresirane možemo naručiti i ručak po cijeni od 75Kn za oba dva dana (odn. 37,50 Kn za jedan dan) kao i smještaj za petak odn. nedjelju - po cijeni od 105Kn / noć.

Smještaj (za natjecatelje) za subotu - iznosit će 75 Kn!

Igrat će se s vojskama od max 2250 bodova !

Sve minijature moraju biti obojane !

Max. broj sudionika : 68 !

Više detalja kao i cjelokupna pravila nalaze se na našim stranicama na slijedećem linku: http://www.ums-agram.hr/dokumenti/AAW_2 ... espack.pdf

Prijave - od 30.11. do 08.12. (upute kako i gdje se prijaviti nalaze se u pravilima (gornji link)) !

Sva Vaša pitanja možete postaviti na [email protected] !

Radujemo se vašem dolasku !

Marko Paunović,
predsjednik UMS "Agram"

[st1v xtr1m]

Samo podsjetnik za sve koji planiraju doci!

Regsitracije za ovogodisnju Arenu krecu danas (30.11.) i traju nesto vise od tjedan dana (do 08.12.), tako da se prijavite dok jos ima mjesta! OBAVEZNO sa prijavom posaljite i svoju listu i provjerite sve po AC-u.

Da jos jednom ponovim, turnir je besplatan (ukljucuje i besplatno pice). Svatko kome je ovo prvi put da dolazi na turnir, dobiva placenu i hranu oba dana, i smjestaj u subotu navecer.

Posebna promocija se odnosi na sve izvan Hrvatske - svaki prvi koji se prijavi iz svake drzave (osim Hrvatske, jelte) dobiva besplatan smjesaj u subotu navecer!

Ako ima ikakvih pitanja, slobodno pitajte na: [email protected]

Prijatno

[novot]

I ko na kraju ide na Arenu ?

[Mrzimsvee]

izgleda da niko ne ide.

[kgkid]

ja pokusavam da se organizujem sa nekom ekipom...

[Kirgan]

I ja al ipak rodjos pada taman na prvi dan a sledece god sigurno dolazim 8)

[st1v xtr1m]

izgleda da niko ne ide.

A jebiga, bas steta :?

Izgleda da cemo morat neke no-AC turnire za vas organizirat :lol:

[Mrzimsvee]

Mislim da nije do toga, izgleda da su vecini finansije u krizi.

[st1v xtr1m]

Ako se netko jos premislja, ima jos koji dan samo!

Evo popisa do sad prijavljenih:

1. Davide Collarich, yes?, no
2. Antonio Napoli, yes?, no
3. Ivan Živko, no, YES
4. Ivan Sumić, no, YES
5. Marko Lukić, no, YES
6. Mladen Jović, yes, YES
7. Jurica Korać, no, YES
8. Marin Jakelić, no, YES
9. Marko Mlinar, no, YES
10. Hrvoje Petrić, ?, no
11. Ivan Bedi, no, YES
12. Jure Cukar, no, YES
13. Zlatko Mornar, no, YES
14. Primož Pirš, yes, YES
15. Gregor Sodec, yes, no
16. Anže Horvat, yes, YES
17. Roko Nikolić, no, YES
18. Luka Kani, no, YES
19. Roko Veić Sukreški, no, YES
20. Vid Veić Sukreški, no, no
21. Miha Logar, yes, YES - army penalty modified!
22. Mislav Gorupec, no, YES
23. Tevž Delak, yes, YES
24. Damir Rukavina, no, no
25. Dražen Panžić, no, YES
26. Ante Majić, no, YES
27. Dragomir Dopuđa, yes, YES - army penalty modified!
28. Marin Tuđman, no, YES
29. Tomislav Zovak, no, no
30. Lovro Anić, no, YES
31. Filip Berecka, no, YES
32. Daniel Dujmić, no, YES
33. Marko Jerkov, no, no
34. Marko Rajčević, no, YES
35. Alberto Scarpari, yes (for friday too), YES
36. Renato Cipriani, yes (for friday too), YES
37. Bruno Magri, yes (for friday too), YES
38. Boris Samec, no, YES
39. Bojan Valentić, no, no
40. Josip Marić, no?, YES
41. Davor Valjin, no, no
42. Tomislav Šehtel, no, YES
43. Alen Andrić, no, YES
44. Mihael Čeliković, no, YES
45. Franjo Đaković, no, YES
46. Slaven Pranjić, no, no
47. Krunoslav Lapenda, no, no
48. Vedran Banjeglav, no, YES
49. Marko Petrović, no, no

[st1v xtr1m]

Gotova i Arena.

Broj natjecatelja je na kraju stao na 56, sto je ok, ali ne bas broj na koji smo pucali. Da je bilo vas vise, da slovenci nisu podbacili, koji madjar i talijan viska, bilo bi taman koliko smo ocekivali.

Ova je bila najbolja do sad, kako i nama iz organizacije (sad smo vec stvarno uhodani 8) ), tako i svima prisutnima.

Neka vam bude zao sto niste dosli, a za slijedecu godinu vec sad rezervirajte datum