Rumori

Post by **teclis** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:53 am

PeraNekron wrote:TK Tomb Guard kosta 11 poena, ima light armour i hand weapon/shield. Da uzme halberdu, kosta 2 poena po modelu.
VC Grave Guard kosta 11 poena, ima heavy armour i hand weapon/shield. Da uzme great weapon, kosta 1 poen po modelu.
Hmmm........

uvek je bilo tako...

tg_vs_gg

pros:
- halebarda je I3 - sasvim fino protiv orkova, saurusa, halebardira, ogrova...
- tomb garda ima WS5/6
- tomb garda moze uzeti necrotehnichare (hatred)
- buffovi (5s killing blow, +1A, 5+ ward)

cons:
- gg moze da marshira

- obe jedinice nemaju magicne napade (kao u proslim edicijama). sto znaci puno problema protiv all_etheral armija.
- necrotehnichara je lako ubiti
- S6 je po nekima veca prednost od 'S5 i sposobnosti da udare MOZDA pre neprijatelja'
- buffovi su mnogo jaci (rroll to hit, rroll to wound)
- invokacijom D6 (+4) grave gardista se vraca iz mrtvih 8O

Stavrogin · Post by **Stavrogin** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:19 pm

Procitah novu VC knjigu.
Ne svidja mi se narocito.

Pogotovo mi se ne dopada povratak nekromanser lorda kao centerpiecea armije dok ce se vampirski general kukavicki kriti-po novim pravilima vampiri ce biti maltene izlisni-general ne mora da bude vampir.
takodje mi se ne dopada cinjenica da vampiri imaju samo 1 oruzje,1 armor i 2 zastave u svom magicnom arsenalu.
Prosto imam osecaj kako ce se u buducnosti armije razlikovati samo po bojama...dok GW ne pocne da prodaje prepainted(©by racham) minijature

RatGod · Post by **RatGod** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:35 pm

Cek cek ono sto sam ja citao u review ima kao sto je ovaj: http://lkhero.blogspot.com/2012/01/8th- ... eview.html

Deluju mega zanimljivo,bas zato sto ce se sada dosta razlikovati upravo vojiske po karakter loadout-u,jedi sto su se usrali u zivot ljudima sa 100 ghoulova ,jel su sada kosturi keva :D

Takodje izgleda mi da cu konacno moci da napravim all etheral listu kao sto ce ljudi moci i all ghoul liste ,posto njihov lord moze da jebe mamu.

Jedino ne znam gde sad spadaju blood knights ,koji slot i koja im je cena?

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:08 pm

Stavrogin wrote:Procitah novu VC knjigu.

Ako si skinuo sa neta, prosledi mi link na pm.

Dorian · Post by **Dorian** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:11 pm

Moj utisak posle citanja je pozitivan. Jeste par stvari oslabljeno, mozda mi se najmanje dopada sto sada pomocu Danse Macabre ne moze vise da se uleti u borbu. S druge strane, Invocation ce u proseku biti efektniji. Tu su i lepe nove stvari, mogucnost pravljenja vise razlicitih tematskih listi...

Blood Knights su i dalje Rare, pet poena su jeftiniji po modelu, a imaju poen inicijative vise.

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:45 pm

Sad sam prelistao....sasvim su ok. Da, vise nemaju "one" kombinacije, ali sad barem mogu da se prave tematske liste, i drago mi je da napokon core valja necemu ; dire wolves dobise opet slavering charge, kosturi su jeftiniji, ghoulovi sada imaju realnu cenu, a zombiji nisu vise toliko beskorisni. Vampire Lord dobi napad vise, i vratise one stare vampiric bloodline powere, sto je cool. Sad moze da se izvede Strigoi Ghoul armija, ili Blood Dragon entourage. :D

kgkid · Post by **kgkid** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:22 pm

RatGod wrote:izgleda mi da cu konacno moci da napravim all etheral listu

Eto gde cela prica o kvalitetu pada u vodu. Mozes da napravis nesto slicno. Ili da utrpas milion vristanja i da tvrdis kako ti je lista tematska, sa temom tradicionalne rumunske opere, ili srpske svadbarske muzike?

:?

Post by **teclis** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:49 pm

RatGod wrote:Cek cek ono sto sam ja citao u review ima kao sto je ovaj: http://lkhero.blogspot.com/2012/01/8th- ... eview.html

Deluju mega zanimljivo,bas zato sto ce se sada dosta razlikovati upravo vojiske po karakter loadout-u,jedi sto su se usrali u zivot ljudima sa 100 ghoulova ,jel su sada kosturi keva :D

Takodje izgleda mi da cu konacno moci da napravim all etheral listu kao sto ce ljudi moci i all ghoul liste ,posto njihov lord moze da jebe mamu.

Jedino ne znam gde sad spadaju blood knights ,koji slot i koja im je cena?

kako ces izvesti da ti core bude etheral?

blood knightovi su 50pts (5 poena jeftiniji) i imaju inicijativu vishe.

RatGod wrote:jedi sto su se usrali u zivot ljudima sa 100 ghoulova ,jel su sada kosturi keva :D

gulovi su sada FTW al samo ako vodis corpse cartove i ako ti uspe JEDNA! augment magija (a vampiri imaju 3 jebene augment magije u njihovom loru). kola daju ASF svim jedinicama u 6" ako je bacena augment magija koja ih zahvata. sto znaci da gulovi imaju sa poisonom rroll to hit protiv vecine core trupa (osim: Warriors of Chaos, svi elfovi, Demoni i to ne nurgle, pacovi, i imperijalni swordsmani, skinkovi). da ne pomenem da mozes da im bacis Hellish Vigour pa onda sa tolko pogodaka mogu i da rerolluju i 'to wound'. znaci od 15 armija koje postoje 65% se useravaju u protivnikove osnovne trupe (i ostale beshtije).

ghoul king sa scabrcrathom, napitkom za +3 strength i talismanom koji ga stiti od vatre, +1W od vampirske moci i -1Ld za neprijatelje (sa doom & darknessom koji necromanceri sad mogu da bace on u proseku iz jednog bacanja ubije stvorenje od 6 rana bez warda i regena sa Ld10!!!) i jos posle toga udari sa 6 napada rroll to hit u svakoj rundi sa snagom 8 ako zeli 8-)

RatGod · Post by **RatGod** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:26 pm

Tematsku zato sto su spirit hostovi od 1 ,sto JE MNOGO BITNIJE od vristanja

Ali ne mislim da je to ubagovano ako na to mislis nego konacno mogu da se igram sa led diodama :D

E sad opet sad citam knjigu pa cu da vidim.

Post by **deka** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:46 pm

...igram sa led diodama...

LED = Light Emitting Diode

Ili izbaci D iz skraćenice, ili diode iza skraćenice...

Kada napišeš i jedno i drugo to je pleonazam (suvišno nagomilavanje reči istog značenja)...

Verterdegete · Post by **Verterdegete** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:36 pm

PeraNekron wrote:
Stavrogin wrote:Procitah novu VC knjigu.
Ako si skinuo sa neta, prosledi mi link na pm.

I meni, ako su skenirani fluff i slicice.

Dellamorte · Post by **Dellamorte** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:25 pm

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/02/empi ... .html#more

Dellamorte · Post by **Dellamorte** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:20 pm

March: Tervigon/Tyrannofex / Space Wolves
April: Empire/ New Paints
May: 40k Codex / Possible Necron Wave
June: Lord of the Rings?
July: 6th Edition
Sept: Starter Set- Chaos vs Dark Angels
Oct: 40k Codex
Rest of Year – Hobbit/Lord of the Rings

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:52 pm

Nesto o Empire:

Rumours about the Timescale:

Opinions vary but I think....
Empire is being released in April 2012
A date of the 7th of April has been suggested.

Rumours about the Book:

Nothing solid ... not even who has written the book ... but Jervis has been suggested.
The book is expected with the first wave of models in April.

Rumours about the army:

Nothing solid on army wide changes

Rumours about models:

Empire will get 4 plastic kits and 2 plastic 'single pose' characters. (6 Plastic in total)
Also at least one new sculpt in finecast as well as some old models being redone in finecast.
This will see The Empire become the first fantasy army that can be all plastic.

Rumours of Characters/Lords/Heroes

I heard something about a mounted Wizard..... as a mount option for the Griffon. (Amber wizard)
Also something about a Jade wizard ... this guy will be in finecast.
I heard something about an engineer. I heard it was plastic and a very nice sculpt.
I heard something about a plastic Captain ... also very nice.
Marius Leitdorf will be re-released in Finecast.

Rumours of Karl Franz OR Lord/Hero on Griffon.

There are rumours of a plastic Lord/Hero on a Griffon that could 'pass' as Karl Franz. (Harry)
There is a rumour that it IS Karl Franz. (which is an interesting development as this is the first time we have seen a special, named character as a plastic kit). (Harry and Hastings)
“The new plastic Empire hero on griffon is also supposed to be very nice” (hastings)
Griffin, which to be honest is a bit of a let down. It's big, Manticore sized, and looks almost like an update of the Deathclaw mini only a bit more static, oddly it was painted a deep ruddy brown. (Darnock via birdy)

As you see opinions vary ... I heard it was BIG and the paint job and the camera angle have not done it any favours. So I shall wait until I have it in my hands before passing judgement.

More importantly I heard it has the option of KF a generic lord/hero or an Amber wizard.

Rumours of a plastic War Altar (and something new?)

There are rumours of a dual plastic kit which makes a War Altar and something else. (Harry, hastings, malladin.ben)
It is rumoured that the War Altar can be customised to make Sigmar, Ulric or Morr. (ghost21)
There is a rumour that it makes a War Altar and a “College of Magic wizardlordmobile”. (NatTreehouse, Harry)
A war altar combo kit with a wizardy casting platform thing which had lots of globes almost like a celestial model. (Darnock via birdy)

Have heard a conflicting rumour that whilst working from the same chassis these may be two seperate kits.
Nice little rumour from Kyte that the War Alter may be pushed into combat by Flagellants rather than pulled by horses.
I have heard the iconic statue of the griffon remains. (This pours water on the customise for different religions rumour. I feel like I would have heard 'you can have a Griffon like the last one or a big wolf' ... Didn't hear that. )
Have heard it is a two headed Griffon. So not exactly like the old one.

Rumours of new Warrior priests:

There were lots of rumours of new warrior priests early on.
I think that any new priests will be done for the plastic War Altar.
(Rather than an additional kit or individual sculpts)
But I get the impression there is more than one priest with the kit .... extras left over for a Preist on foot.

Rumours of Demi-Griffon knights.

There are rumours of Demi-Griffon knights. (Eldargal and others )
Don't expect the same as the Forge World one ... expect something a bit different.

Rumours of knights:

So many conflicting rumours about Knights I don't know what to make of it.
I have heard nearly nothing about new Knights .... so I assume that is what is happening. (Nearly nothing. )

My guess is sprues have been seen/heard about for demi-griff knights...and conclusions have been leapt to.

But see what you can pick out of this lot.

Rumours of Inner Circle knights:

There is a rumour of a new box of inner circle knights with lots of options for different orders.(ghost21)
This is the reason for no new knights. (ghost21)
There is a rumour that the Inner Circle Knights and Demi-griffon knights are the same dual kit.

Rumours of new Knights:

No new knights. (hastings)
Rumour of the sprue re-cut for the knights. (ghost21)
Rumour of individual Knightly Orders rather than redone generic set. (eldargal)
Rumour of new Knights of Morr. (Mirbeau)
Rumour of more packs like the blazing sun bits pack to customize the existing knights. (ghost21)

Rumours of a Nuln Siege Cannon:

There were rumours of a BIG cannon ....

I have heard nothing about this .... so I assume this isn't happening.

There are rumours of some things back from 4th edition:

Rumours of Halflings:

There are rumours that halflings are back in the book BUT as I have not heard about new halfling plastics and I have heard the whole army can be done in plastic I am not convinced.
On the other hand it follows that IF they are in the book then there MUST be a halfling kit in the works.

Rumours of the War Wagon:

There is a rumour the War Wagon is back in the book with a combat, shooty or mixed option.(ghost21)

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:05 pm

Nesto o novim Warriors of Chaos :

Some sources place new Warriors of Chaos book as early as august most rumourmongers peg it into Q4 2012.

KIT RELEASES-
New Models:
-Warshrine/ Chariot combi kit[PLASTIC].
-Chaos Dragon
-Dragon Ogres[PLASTIC]
-Forsaken possibly combi-kit with Chosen[PLASTIC]
-Character models[Possible Troll King,Krom,Egrimm van Horstman]
-No new chaos dragon, but a combo-shaggoth kit to make either normal shaggoth or Shaggoth Lord is also a possibility.
-Poseable Dragon Ogres similar to the Minotaur sprues.Options for extra hand weapons or Great Weapons and overall larger models much more in keeping with size expectations for an Ogre Centaur.Also includes bits for representing marks.

LORDS & HEROES.
- SC Kromm & Engrimm Von Hortsman
-Chaos lord price reduction[15%], same stat line.100 points of War gear,50 points of Gifts of the Gods.Same mount options.Comes with two unnamed special rules;Firstly Re-roll to all panic,fear andterror for any model within LOS.Secondly, Must declare and Accept Challenges and may not flee as a charge reaction.Option to mark work different for lords. ( TZ makes you a caster up to lvl 2...)
-Daemon Princes base price rumoured at 80 points cheaper than present.4+ as 5+ ward base.100 points to spend on gifts.Wings are 60pts.
-Lore of Shadow available to Hero level casters.

CORE
-Warriors.Cheaper, 12 is a number thats being mentioned.Quite possibly losing the ability to be marked.May be losing some Initiative and/or Chaos Armour.Chaos Armour if out purchaseable at 2ppm
-Marauders rumoured to be getting more expensive.If Warrior can't take marks I doubt Marauders will be able to either.

SPECIAL
-Chosen "to go down to warriors +1 ppm and have the same statline" unclear as to whether this is old or new warrior price comparison.
-Knights,Cheaper.5 points cheaper but Magic Weapons are a 5 point upgrade
-Forsaken might be moving to core.Skirmishers,Same points,d3+2 attacks. Base str 5 ld 5.
-Dragon Ogres,T5, possible receiver of new kit syndrome.
-Ogres,Cheaper.
-Chaos Chariots,markable have an upgrade for re-rollable impact hits

RARE
-Spawn, WS 5.
-Shaggoth,Optional Heavy Armour,May upgrade to ranged lightning attack similar to kholek with 12 inch range str 4 d6+ hits magical.
-Shrines,Moves over to providing passive aura's determined by Mark with 6"range. ie khorne shrine = frenzy / +1 attack, MosS +1 init /asf, MoN 6+/5+ posion
-Hellcannon,Fires small blast. Magical. Cheaper. Gets a 5++ ward. Misfire sucks even harder.Monster with handlers rules.Think Ogre Kingdoms Ironblaster for general rules direction but Move OR Fire.
-Giant,Cheaper

ARMY RULES AND OPTIONS-
Eye of the Gods either reworked or stripped out entirely.

Marks reworked to be an added cost per model, and not per unit.
Mark of Tzeentch, no longer boosts ward save.Multiple conflicting rumour sources :
-Tzeentch gets MR1 and are able to channel Power Dice like wizards
-Tzeentch boosts regen as per Forgeworld Skinwolves.
Mark of Slaanesh,cheap, possibly stay the same.

Mark of Nurge,either Poisoned Attacks or staying the same.
Mark of Khorne,quite probably staying the same.

Magic Items List cut down to 8th ed book standard.Chaos daemon sword,runesword, armor of damnation, crown of everlasting conquest,helm of many eyes are rumoured to be in there,Favour of the Gods is gone.
Gifts of the Gods, these rumours are slightly confusing so I will just list them by patron.
Khorneevastating Charge, Killing Blow,collar of khorne(same effect) ,extra attacks based on turn number max 10
Nurgle: +1 T but -1 initative, -1 to hit,stream of corruption, on a d6 of 6 recover a wound at start of turn.
Slaanesh:-1 ld in BTB, pass LD test to attack on doubles hit own side,armor peircing, every wound suffered +1 attack and init.
Tzeentch:+1 to channeling attempts, +d3 casting and dispel
Undivided:+1 to AS , +1 to LD,extended ld range, eternal hatred, +d3 additional attacks at base str and init 1.
Gifts Cost 15-25 or 30-45 each

Lores get updated significantly. Slaanesh is almost total rewrite except frenzy spell.

Post by **deka** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:17 am

E pa nova imperija vi je zvanicno najavljena za 31. mart...

kekenda · Post by **kekenda** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... D7YVR5Cm98

Dellamorte · Post by **Dellamorte** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:42 pm

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:49 pm

Tacno sam znao da ce da im uvale monstrous cavalry, neku karakondzulu na 2 chariot baze i po koji multi-kit....neka, neka, samo napred. :D
Grifon je predobar, odlican dizajn, razmera i poza.

(jedino mi nije jasan onaj sa dve glave :? :? )

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:48 pm

Demigrifi su mi bas odlicni, oni su mi se bas svideli (posebno onaj skroz levo, sa onom fensi kacigom).

Oni dodaci za vrh kocije su mi bas super (izuzev grifona koji mi jadnjikavo deluje, posebno u nogama), i tockovi su mi ok, ali me sama kocija nesto ne odusevljava.

Grifon mi se bas nije dopao... lepsi mi je ovaj iz Isle of Blood.

Ovi single, on foot, coveculjci su mi isto ok.

milosh · Post by **milosh** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:57 pm

PeraNekron wrote:Tacno sam znao da ce da im uvale monstrous cavalry, neku karakondzulu na 2 chariot baze i po koji multi-kit....neka, neka, samo napred. :D

I nije trebalo biti Nostradamus pa ovo predvideti jer su taj trend uveli u svim knjigama 8. edicije :D

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:58 pm

Neki rumor

What I can get from the WD:

units led by Empire Generals and Captains roll 3D6 for Break Test, discard highest;
Witch Hunters have Sniper and Killing Blow;
Imperial Griffons are S6, 5W - I don't have my old Army Book here, but it seems to me these are different? They can be two-headed as a special option (with built-in game effect);
Karl Franz grants his Ld to models within 18"; 24" if he is upon Deathclaw or the Imperial Dragon;
Deathclaw has +1 A and Ld respect an Imperial Griffon, the usual faithful rule and makes enemy units roll an additional D6, discard lowest when testing Fear/Terror caused by it.

The General on the Imperial Griffon model has the option of two heads (helmetd or not) and lance or sword (different from the Reikland Runefang).
The two magic altars can be fielded without Wizard on top, thus counting as a rare choice (I guess that was already known).
Demi-Gryphs Knights with cavalry halberds are shown with the shield too (I guess they'll use it only against shooting).

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:37 pm

igor · Post by **igor** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:52 pm

dva vagona 80e, dve kutije kokosaka 88e
8 novih figura 168e
gg

Histericni Istoricar · Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:54 pm

Nisu to kokoske, to su pilici. Kokoske su one velike ticurine.

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:03 pm

dva vagona 80e

Kao 2 predator tenka za 40k.

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:22 pm

Nisu to kokoske, to su pilici. Kokoske su one velike ticurine.

To su kokoske, a ono veliko je Cupakabra :D :P.

Salu na stranu, sto se tice kokosi, nisam siguran da ce 2 kutije biti dovoljno :oops: ... pre mi se cini da ce to biti, recimo, 10 modela ti treba. Uzas. Za te pare je bre nekad mogla da se kupi cela armija 8O .

Histericni Istoricar · Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:29 pm

Nenade ne razumes se u ticurine.
Uzasno su skupi, jezivo. Ja sam mislio da ce biti sest pilica u boksu jer su mali. Medjutim ovo je stvarno strasno. Ako se odlucim da isporbam tu cudnu igru WHFB kupi cu ih.

igor · Post by **igor** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:49 pm

Morace nesto mnogo dobro da rade da opravdaju cenu od 40eura za tri modela sa 3a s5 i jos napad s5 od jahaca sa halberdom..a sve to na postolje za kociju sa tri rane t4 i osecam nekih 60 poena.. Za te poene ce moci dosta stvari da se uzme (jedinica od 6 pilica sa komandom ~400p)..
Smor..

orome pancevo · Post by **orome pancevo** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:06 pm

Izgleda da je Argeta bila sponzor ove knjige.
Pileca konjica, mama kokoska sa dve glave (koja pritom izgleda kao da ce da snese jaje-ili je mozda 7-8 mesec trudnoce).
A ove portable relikvije...astronom koji je poneo svu svoju zbirku planeta u bitku, fizicar sa svojim ogledalcima i korumpirani svestenik, koji vuce svoju zlatnu statuu okolo(to mogu i da razumem. Da ja imam tolko zlato, isto bih se bojao da ga neko ne mazne)...
A mozete videti i zivotni put divljaka samana, koji je postao ratni svestenik nakon primanja hriscanstva...
Na sve to, baja sa naslovne strane lici na dvorsku ludu, i to vrlo pijanu.
Bas su se potrudili :D ...

Post by **teclis** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:54 pm

ae pali... grifoni sa odsechenim krilima... tolko su mi smeshni modeli, a u isto vreme su invalidi (ili preciznije da se izrazim retardirani grifoni) pa je pogreshno smejati se. znam samo da necu moci da se iskontrolisem da prasnem od smeha ako ih ikad budem video na bojnom polju (posto su jelte - bezobrazno jezivo skupi)

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:20 pm

Ti pilici su manje besmisleni od zmijo-jahaca....

A lik na slici je tipican oficir iz renesansnog perioda - nakindjuren, naoruzan do zuba, i pijan k'o letva. :D

Ovo ce vam pojasniti zasto je u ono doba zapravo bilo dobro biti pripit za vreme bitke. :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_courage

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:58 pm

Meni ovaj grifon izgleda kao najbolji GW-ov do sada a ako su ga nabudžili kao što kažu S6, 5W može da bude upotrebljiv. Sad ako altari budu radili pametne stvari mogu zameniti tenkove (za koje pak ne znamo kako će proći sa pravilima u novoj knjizi). Negde pročitah da pilići imaju devastating charge.

Post by **teclis** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:23 pm

PeraNekron wrote:Ti pilici su manje besmisleni od zmijo-jahaca....

ispravka pero: zmijo-surfera. niko me ne tera niti da ih kupujem niti da ih koristim. verujem da ce tako biti i za pilice. sumnjam da ce biti jaci od 4 mournfanga u chargu sa zastavom 'rrolujemo keceve na sve'

al to poredjenje naravno nema nikakve veze. pitanje je kakvu ce to pile da ima sinergiju sa imperijalnom magijom.

grifon je prelep

kekenda · Post by **kekenda** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:08 am

treba da prekrste igru u warhammer steampunk battle -.-

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:18 am

Treba da ga prekrste u Warhammer Kidney Battle... posto ce ti, ovim tempom, biti potrebno taman toliko para da skupis armiju, koliko dobijes prodajom pomenutog.

kgkid · Post by **kgkid** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:52 am

Grifon mi se prilicno svidja. Model ima neki smek, plastican je pa nece biti preskup, a docice sa gomilom ekstra stvari koje ce bit odlicne za konverzije.

Kocije su pomalo zanimljive, a steampunk mi potpuno ide uz Imperiju (bar onaj inzinjerijski deo Imperije oduvek je i bio u Steampunk fazonu, dok je ostalo bilo kvazigotika i kvazirenesansa pomalo) i mozda Pacove.

Na neki cudan nacin, verovatno zato sto me se mnogo ne tice, meni sve ove gluposti od novih imperijalnih jedinica ne smetaju. Iako nisu ruzni modeli, Demigrifoni su mi mozda najmanje interesantni.

Ipak, nije meni ni neocekivano, ni lose sto su uveli Demigrifone. Jedino sto sam ja ocekivao, a nije se desilo, je da se pojavi i neka monstruozna pesadija. Imperija je oduvek imala sve sto igra ima da ponudi, u varijantama koje su nesto jeftinije i slabije od najjacih verzija u armijama koje se na njima baziraju. Zato sam ocekivao da ce da sada Imperija dobije i nove tipove jedinica.

Problem nije u Imperiji, jer je ona tako i koncipirana. Balans i dostupnost svega i svacega oduvek je bila karakteristika Imperije i Orkova. Problem je u drugim armijama, koje su bile specificne u nekim stvarima, a koje su sada sve uniformisane u taj neki "sve na gomili" prosek.

Ostaje jos da se vide pravila za sve ovo i da se sve to oproba na bojistu. To je uvek najveci rizik. Vec mi se javlja da ce da se jave kamare skoro neunistivih "heroj-mobila", pre nego jata grifona...

Post by **teclis** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:36 pm

Histericni Istoricar wrote:Nenade ne razumes se u ticurine.
Uzasno su skupi, jezivo. Ja sam mislio da ce biti sest pilica u boksu jer su mali. Medjutim ovo je stvarno strasno. Ako se odlucim da isporbam tu cudnu igru WHFB kupi cu ih.

ha smanjili su im bazu ali u duzinu (50x75). i dalje izgledaju ko da su mogli savrseno da stanu na obicnu cavalry bazu. ali to bi znacilo 231455 napada vishe, sto nije dobro u igri.

takodje kolko vidim na sajtu 1+ as, al opet samo T3. sto znaci da moji strelci upucaju celu jedinicu od 3 pilica u 2 poteza. i imaju M7

Post by **bojan** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:03 pm

teclis wrote:
Histericni Istoricar wrote:Nenade ne razumes se u ticurine.
...sto znaci da moji strelci upucaju celu jedinicu od 3 pilica u 2 poteza. i imaju M7

108 pogodaka da bi umrli (3 rane * 3 curke * 2 (s3 vs t3) * 6 (1+ AS) , sto sa tvojim strelcima znaci 324 pucanja. Tj.162 po potezu.

Post by **teclis** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:31 pm

ma padace kecevi to je cinjenica