Rumori
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Re: Rumori
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Re: Rumori
Nesto o novim demonima:
http://imgur.com/a/Oulir
mnogo randoma, itemi su random!!!!
Skoro svaka 3 magicna faza ce biti katastrofa za nekoga.. :D
elem, sve je random :D
http://imgur.com/a/Oulir
mnogo randoma, itemi su random!!!!
Skoro svaka 3 magicna faza ce biti katastrofa za nekoga.. :D
elem, sve je random :D
Re: Rumori
GENERAL SPECIAL RULES:
-NO ASF or Valor as we know it today.
-Elven Dexterity: units with this rule can use parry save when wielding any weapon, even if mounted (some units may use it against shooting or even if mounted).
-Special rule for rolling an additional dice on chase an remove the lowest result (or four dice removing two lowest dices to swift stride).
-IaC: more than ******** around, there are chances that the general may somehow help, dependin on region/power chosen it benefits some units.
SPECIAL RULES ON WEAPONRY:
-Elven Weapons: no penalties on two-handed or moving&shooting (there may exist extra bonus on elite units). (Translator says: in the beginning I thought of SW, but maybe maidens are also here).
-Ithilmar armor: no penalties when moving, +1AS on heavy armor (only on elite units).
-Dragon Armor: 3+ armor save against flaming attacks.
-Lion Pelt: Can also be used in CC.
MAGIC SPECIAL RULES:
-Elven Mages: +1 to dispel and can repeat channelings.
-High Magic: More powerful spells and representing the 8 lores of magic. It is said that there is one that gives life back to a dead character and other one specific against Chaos and "Bad" armies. They will be the most powerful sorcerers until Lizards get renewed after summer. Some rules will be shared with them.
SPECIFIC RULES ON UNITS:
-Martial Prowess: Elves fight and shoot with a extra rank (not specified, but this could be armywide).
-Spears and LSG: heavy armor and shield option.
-Archers: Light Armor.
-SHs: Heavy armor. Cheaper.
-Ellyrian Reavers: Same.
-T-Chariot: Same, cheaper.
-SMs: Parry save against shooting, Swords of Hoeth, Paths fighting.
-White Lions: Lumber Axes, Stubborn, Forest Stride.
-Phoenix Guard: Know their destiny (unbreakable), Magic Resistance, Ward Save. (maybe something about flaming attacks).
-SWs: Stalkers (?), Night Warriors (?).
-DPs: Caledor Proudness, all the rest remains the same.
-Lion Chariot: Same, cheaper.
-Flying Chariot: RBT on top of it, crew with elven weapons.
-RBT: cheaper, better.
-Dragons: Will of the Dragon (mix of 5ed. rule plus communion with rider that makes them share some rules). Super Dragon (Caledor Dragon?) may be wizard too.
-Phoenix: May be consecrated to Asuryan or another God (Phoenix alone or in a shrine?)
-Fire Dragons (MC): same as dragon princes, beast mounted is better than eagle but worse than a hypogryphe. Fly, 1+AS. Rare.
-Maiden Guard: Avelorn Mirror (?), Deadly in CC (?) (Translator says: I think no one knows what they'd do. I thought they would not exist, thought this was a wishlist... Maybe it's just a unit upgrade after all...).
-Warrior-mage (different from dragon-mage): Hoeth disciplines, fighting magic (guy was convinced one of them would be Belannaer).
REMEMBER: All this are rumors. Cheers
-NO ASF or Valor as we know it today.
-Elven Dexterity: units with this rule can use parry save when wielding any weapon, even if mounted (some units may use it against shooting or even if mounted).
-Special rule for rolling an additional dice on chase an remove the lowest result (or four dice removing two lowest dices to swift stride).
-IaC: more than ******** around, there are chances that the general may somehow help, dependin on region/power chosen it benefits some units.
SPECIAL RULES ON WEAPONRY:
-Elven Weapons: no penalties on two-handed or moving&shooting (there may exist extra bonus on elite units). (Translator says: in the beginning I thought of SW, but maybe maidens are also here).
-Ithilmar armor: no penalties when moving, +1AS on heavy armor (only on elite units).
-Dragon Armor: 3+ armor save against flaming attacks.
-Lion Pelt: Can also be used in CC.
MAGIC SPECIAL RULES:
-Elven Mages: +1 to dispel and can repeat channelings.
-High Magic: More powerful spells and representing the 8 lores of magic. It is said that there is one that gives life back to a dead character and other one specific against Chaos and "Bad" armies. They will be the most powerful sorcerers until Lizards get renewed after summer. Some rules will be shared with them.
SPECIFIC RULES ON UNITS:
-Martial Prowess: Elves fight and shoot with a extra rank (not specified, but this could be armywide).
-Spears and LSG: heavy armor and shield option.
-Archers: Light Armor.
-SHs: Heavy armor. Cheaper.
-Ellyrian Reavers: Same.
-T-Chariot: Same, cheaper.
-SMs: Parry save against shooting, Swords of Hoeth, Paths fighting.
-White Lions: Lumber Axes, Stubborn, Forest Stride.
-Phoenix Guard: Know their destiny (unbreakable), Magic Resistance, Ward Save. (maybe something about flaming attacks).
-SWs: Stalkers (?), Night Warriors (?).
-DPs: Caledor Proudness, all the rest remains the same.
-Lion Chariot: Same, cheaper.
-Flying Chariot: RBT on top of it, crew with elven weapons.
-RBT: cheaper, better.
-Dragons: Will of the Dragon (mix of 5ed. rule plus communion with rider that makes them share some rules). Super Dragon (Caledor Dragon?) may be wizard too.
-Phoenix: May be consecrated to Asuryan or another God (Phoenix alone or in a shrine?)
-Fire Dragons (MC): same as dragon princes, beast mounted is better than eagle but worse than a hypogryphe. Fly, 1+AS. Rare.
-Maiden Guard: Avelorn Mirror (?), Deadly in CC (?) (Translator says: I think no one knows what they'd do. I thought they would not exist, thought this was a wishlist... Maybe it's just a unit upgrade after all...).
-Warrior-mage (different from dragon-mage): Hoeth disciplines, fighting magic (guy was convinced one of them would be Belannaer).
REMEMBER: All this are rumors. Cheers
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Re: Rumori
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Re: Rumori
Ako neko nije video ima na warseer 10 novih slika za HE >
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthrea ... urs/page83
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthrea ... urs/page83
Open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded.
- PeraNekron
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Re: Rumori
Nesto mi govori da ce High Elves da postanu naj OP vojska u 8. ediciji...
via Hero's Gaming Blog
Everyone has ASF, Martial Prowess and Valour of Ages
Mages get +1 to cast High Magic now instead of +1 dispel, called Lileath's Blessing
Dragon stats are..
Sun Dragon - 5s, WS5, T5 S5, W5
Moon Dragon - 6s, 5 attacks Ld.8
Star Dragon, WS7, S7, T7, 7 wounds, I2, 6A, Ld.9
Everyone has 3+ AS, Terror
Flamespyre Phoenix = 225
WS5 S5 T5 W5 I4 A3 Ld.8
Monster
Special Rules:
Attuned to Magic - 5+ ward and close combat attacks are magical. in add, when rolling to determine the strength of the winds of magic, compare the highest d6 rolled with the table below and determine the effect.
1 = ward is 6+ instead
2 = phoenix has -1 s
3 = phoenix has +1I
4 = has +1A
5= +1S
6=ward 4+
Fireborn - 2+ ward vs. wounds caused by flaming attacks
Flaming Attacks
Fly
Large Target
Phoenix Reborn - as soon as he loves his last wound, remove the model and place a phoenix reborn counter to mark the centre of the death spot. at the end of the turn roll a d6 for each phoenix reborn counter and consult the table. 1-2 dead forever, 3-5 centre a large round template over the center, all models friendly and foe suffers s4 flaming, the counter remains in play, roll at the end of next turn, yours or oppos. Rise from the ashes on 6+, place him anywhere within 6" of the center, at least 1" away and remove marker. He is back with d3+2 wounds. If you have a rider, he dies with the phoenix, or he returns with the phoenix. If the phoenix died with a rider on him, add +1 to you roll.
Terror
Wake of Fire - if he moves over one or more uneganged enemy units, choose one of those units - that unit suffers d6 s4 hits plus d3 per rank after the first. flaming,
Frostheart Phoenix = 240
WS6 S6 T6 5W I3 4A Ld. 9
Attuned to magic
blizzard aura - any enemy UNIT in base contact with him has ASL and -1S
natural armor 5+
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower = 70 points
2 Sea Guard crew
Rare, can take up to 4
Great Eagles 1+ = 50ppm
Entire unit can get Swiftsense = ASF for 10ppm
Shredding Talons for 5ppm = AP
Tyrion = 410
WS9 BS7 S4 T3 4W I10 4A Ld.10
Sunfang = same +3S flaming, S4 breath once a game, magical
Dragon Armor of Aenarion - 1+ AS, 4+ ward and Fireborn 2+ ward vs. fire
Heart of Averlorn - MR2, if he dies, roll d6, on a 2+ he negates the wound and the heart is destroyed
Defender of Ulthuan - 18" presence
Teclis = 450
T2 3W Ld.10
Sword of Teclis - wound on 2+ no AS
Moonstaff of Lileath - one use only - you can either choose to add a bonus power die to each casting attempt, of if teclis suffers a miscast, the miscast is ignored. In either case, Teclis' S and T are both reduced to 1 for the remainder of the game ROFL
Scroll of hoeth - one use only - same
Warcrown of Saphery - Increases his Wizard level by one, so he's a Lv.5 wizard technically
Teclis does not generate spells, he either knows all of the spells from High Magic or can choose one spell from each of the 8 lores (yes, chooses)
Lileath's Blessing - +1 to cast from all lore of high magic
Magic spells:
Apotehosis
5+ augment 18"
immediately regains 1 wound, 10+ for d3 wounds. Regardless of how many wounds gained, you also gain Fear.
Arcane Unforging
13+, direct damage with 24" single enemy model. Suffers a wound on a dice grear than or equal to unmodified armor save. No AS allowed. Reveal to the caster all magic items, if you have more than one, randomly select one and its destroyed on 2+.
Drain Magic (sig)
cast on 7+
friend or foe within 18"
friendly augment, hex on enemy
all RIP spells affecting the unit are immediately dispelled, and affects of all other spells on the target unit immediately come to an end. Can be all units within 18" for 14+.
Fiery Convocation
Cast on 19+
RIP
Direct damage 24". every unit takes S4 flaming, at the end of every subsequent magic phase, every model suffers S4 flaming.
Hand of Glory 5+
augment 18"
Target's WS, BS, I or M is +d3. You can choose all for 10+.
Shield of Saphery (lore attribute)
Each time a spell is succesfully cast, the caster and his unit immediately gain +1 to their ward save to max of 3. If you don't have one, 6+. Stacks.
Soul Quench (sig)
cast on 8+
magical missile, 18", 2d6 s4 hits, or 4d6 s4 hits, 16+
Tempest 12+
direct damage. large round template within 30" of wiz, scatters d6. All models hit suffer s3 hits (models flying is s4). If a model suffers any unsaved wounds, it suffers -1 to all hit both shooting and cc. Those that do not use BS needs a 4+ to fire.
Walk between worlds
cast on 8+
augment, 24+
Gain Ethereal and can immediately move to 10" as if it were remaining moves sub-phase.
Can make it go 20" + Ethereal on a 16"
Purchaseable magic items
Blade of leaping gold - 70 points
Star Lance - 30 points, +3S, no AS
Reaver Bow - 20 points
+1S, volley Multiple shots 3
Armor of Caledor for 50 points
Shadow Armor - 25 points, 5+ AS, Scouts, Strider
Shield of the Mermrym - 15pts, shield, unless he's using a weapon that uses 2 hands, he has parry 4+, can be used with a magic weapon
golden crown of atrazar - 10 points, talisman
Moranion's wayshard - enchanted, 50 points. Models on foot only. Has ambushers special rule. He can give archers or Spearmen up to 30 units in size the same immediately before deployment. He has to join that unit if he does.
Kharine's Ring of Fury - 25 points
Gem of Sunfire - 20 points
Cloak of Beards - 10 points
Book of Hoeth - 55 points
Banner of World Dragon - 50 points - SO *********** GOOD WOW
Random Magic Items and other special rules:
Warrior mage - First spell generated by dragon mage is always flaming sword.
Windrider - Sea Helm on Lothern Skycutter has 4+ ward against shooting attacks. Can also re-roll dangerous terrain.
Witness to Destiny - 4+ ward (assuming this is anointed)
touch of the everqueen - her close combat attacks vs. forces of destruction have HKB.
The shieldstone of Isha - Talisman, the shieldstone of isha grants Alarielle and her unit a 5+ ward vs. any non-magical attacks.
Stave of Averlorn - one use only, arcane. It allows Alerielle to immediately attempt to cast a spell she already cast that phase, even if failed or miscast.
Stone of midnight - Alith 4+ ward, enemies suffer -1 to hit when shooting against Alith or his unit.
Swooping Strike - a model upgraded has Devastating Charge and +1S on the turn he charges.
Talisman of Hoeth - Eltharion has MR1, counts as a Lv.2 Wiz, who uses spells from any of the 8 lores.
Mark of Asuryan - If Caradryan dies, d3 wounds no AS.
The moonbow - 36" S7 D3 wounds quick to fire, no AS. dark Elves suffer -1 ld.
Naval Disipline - If a unit containing at least one sea helm is successfully charged during the movement phase, it can attempt to change formation immediately after your opponent has moved all of his charging units. To do so, the unit must take a Ld. test. If passed, immediately combat reform. A unit cannot use this if made a Flee! or stand and shoot (doh!).
Pelt of Charandis - Korhil counts his AS as one higher vs. CC, 2 points higher vs. non-magic shooting. Poison does not auto wound, wound as normal.
Phoenix Blade - +1S, flaming, d3 wounds, Caradryan's.
Quicksilver Shot - Models shooting attacks have quick to fire as do all sisters of averlorn and high sisters in the same unit.
Reckless - Dragon mage +2 to cast from lore of fire (cumulative with other bonuses), never receive bonuses to dispel.
Repeater Bolt Thrower - same, normal Bolt thrower or 6 shots, S4 AP.
Shadow Crown - Alith and his unit have Swiftstride.
Helm of Yvresse - +1 to Eltharion's AS and gives him and his mount 5+ ward.
Horn of Isha. enchanted. one use, can be used at the start of one of your movement phases. For the remainder of the turn, all models in the unit receive +1 to hit on all shooting and close combat attacks.
Ilthilmar Barding - No movement penalty barding
Khaine's Ring of Fury - BL3, enchanted, Soul Quench from Lore of High Magic. 18" 2d6 S4 hits
Lileath's blessing - Models with this special rule gain +1 to cast when using High Magic
Lion Cloak - models wearing a lion cloak adds +2 AS against non-magical shooting attacks.
Gem of Sunfire - Enchanted. One use only. All bearer's spells, shooting attacks, close combat (and his mounts) have +1 to wound, provided they also have the flaming attacks special rule.
Golden Crown of Atrazar - Talisman, one use. 2+ ward against first wounding hit by wearer.
Armor of Caledor 2+, 6+ Ward, Fireborn special rule - 2+ ward vs. flaming
Banner of Averlorn - Spells from Lore of Light and Life by a friendly unit containing the banner are +4 to cast. If Alarielle is slain, this is immediately lost.
Banner of World Dragon - 2+ ward vs. all wounds caused by spells, magic weapons, and magical attacks. Furthermore, all dragons within 12" of the World Dragon have Stubborn.
Blade of Leaping Gold - +3 attacks, any roll to wound of 6 ignores AS.
Book of Hoeth - Allows the user to re-roll a single dice from each of his casting or dispel attempts, results of 6 cannot be re-rolled.
Cloak of Beards - Enchanted. Cause Fear. Against Dwarfs, cause Terror. Dwarfs gain hatred vs. you. At the start of each cc phase, roll d6 for each magic item carried by each model from warhammer dwarfs in base contact with wearer. On a 4+ the magic item is destroyed and cannot be used..etc.
Deflect shots - 6+ ward against non-magical shooting attacks
Dragon Armor - 5+ armor, 6+ ward and Fireborn Special rule.
Dragon Fire - A dragon's breath weapon is S4, flaming
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
24" S5 Multiple Wounds D3, no AS
Fangsword of Iltharion - +2S, no AS caused by Fangsword
Boon of Isha - All models in the Everqueen's unit are magical. Her unit is Immune to Fear/Terror.
Blessings of Ausryan - all models that contain an anointed of Asuryan havea 6+ ward save and is ItP.
Blood Oath - Ethlarion gains +1 to hit vs. Grom.
Chaos Bane - At the start of each of Allerille's magic phase, before rolling for winds, every unit with the demonic special rule within 12" of her suffers d6 s4 distriubuted like shooting. However, she suffers -d3 penalty to her casting attempts if there is one of more models with demon within 12" of her.
Chayal - +2S, Paired Weapon, Killing Blow
Bow of Averlorn - 24" S4 Arrows of Isha, Flaming, Volley Fire
Arrows of Isha - magical. -1 AS against wounds caused to forces of destruction
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- PeraNekron
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Re: Rumori
Nova HE knjiga je uplivala u piratski zaliv. Samo pravila, doduse, ali posluzice.
EDIT : Nema pravila za spec. karaktere, ne znam zasto.
EDIT : Nema pravila za spec. karaktere, ne znam zasto.
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Re: Rumori
Jel ima nesto zablje u piratskom zaljevu?PeraNekron wrote:Nova HE knjiga je uplivala u piratski zaliv. Samo pravila, doduse, ali posluzice.
EDIT : Nema pravila za spec. karaktere, ne znam zasto.
Re: Rumori
+1st1v xtr1m wrote:Jel ima nesto zablje u piratskom zaljevu?PeraNekron wrote:Nova HE knjiga je uplivala u piratski zaliv. Samo pravila, doduse, ali posluzice.
EDIT : Nema pravila za spec. karaktere, ne znam zasto.
- PeraNekron
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Re: Rumori
Nema....za sad.
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
Re: Rumori
колко читам по форумима баш нешто и не одушевљавају нови гуштери...
Re: Rumori
erghm *kashljuc kashljuc* kome treba PDF knjiga nek mi posalje pm 8-)
Re: Rumori
Nek mi pusti neko ako ima info na PM povodom guštere, jerbo je Teclis izgleda zapalio na ETC.teclis wrote:erghm *kashljuc kashljuc* kome treba PDF knjiga nek mi posalje pm 8-)
Re: Rumori
Momci,
Najlepse vas molim da u skladu sa pravilima foruma, ne stavljate linkove sa piratizovanim sadrzajem na forum, ili linkove koji posredno vode do takvog sadrzaja. Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Najlepse vas molim da u skladu sa pravilima foruma, ne stavljate linkove sa piratizovanim sadrzajem na forum, ili linkove koji posredno vode do takvog sadrzaja. Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Re: Rumori
Awakened wrote:Momci,
Najlepse vas molim da u skladu sa pravilima foruma, ne stavljate linkove sa piratizovanim sadrzajem na forum, ili linkove koji posredno vode do takvog sadrzaja. Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Da li ovo pravilo vazi i za privatne poruke?
Re: Rumori
Pa PM ne mozemo da kontrolisemo 8-)teclis wrote: Da li ovo pravilo vazi i za privatne poruke?
Re: Rumori
Awakened wrote:Pa PM ne mozemo da kontrolisemo 8-)teclis wrote: Da li ovo pravilo vazi i za privatne poruke?
Ne znam ja nista
- PeraNekron
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Re: Rumori
Dark Elves :
October 4
September 27th (pre-orders)
And the models who claim to have seen flying are:
- Box Hydra / Kar Karond Beast (depths flying) [Multikit to build two types of hydration and the Beast
- Box of 10 Witch Elves / Multikit unique troop
- Box 10 Executioners / Black Guard Multikit
- Safety Cauldron of Blood / Altar ...
- Blister Priestess of Khaine
- Blister Murderer (Shadowblade)
- Blister Dark Fleet Admiral
- King of the Executioners Blister
Rules:
- Dark Magic up characteristics oriented characters, transformations and recovery spells 5th edition.
- Dagger of sacrifices there and synergy with the Cauldron of Blood in units (Skaven bell type.) (It is said that only power dice 4 + and one per phase)
- Fleet Admiral dark. A kind of hero who can join LV apparently endowments and improve shooting skills from other units. (Becomes his cousin sea helmet AE)
- The Vergudos oriented creatures with more than one wound and mean strengths.
- Revamp of Murderers and more important. Cheaper and the terror of the enemy characters.
- The whole army is oriented based damage poisons, multiple wounds and attacks (lethal blows) and ...
- Malekith more powerful than Teclis.
- Monster of the deep-Kar Karond more powerful than the Hydra
- The weight of the book lies Karond units Kar, Hag Graef and Clar Karond
The rumor Cruddace dark book makes is very vague and is taken from faeit 212 and heard that the author of the book is the same as AE
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
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Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Re: Rumori
Zaniljivo..
Re: Rumori
Pogledajte ovo:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/09/ ... ition.html
vrlo zanimljivo ali sumnjam da ce biti tako
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/09/ ... ition.html
vrlo zanimljivo ali sumnjam da ce biti tako
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Re: Rumori
Da ovu firmu ne vode imbecili uradili bi ovako nesto. Mada opet...
U jednog Bocu, mi verujemo!
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Re: Rumori
Nema poente da ispravljaju krive Drine, stoga ce da urade jedan masan re-boot celog sistema, sto je i dobro resenje.
Ne treba zaboraviti da je GW ozbiljna firma koja ima deonicare, a prvo pravilo uvek jeste : da deonicari budu zadovoljni. 90% promena ce biti motivisano (ne)prodajom odredjenih tipova jedinica...sto se nekako i ocekivalo.
Ovo sto pise u rumorima je zapravo veoma moguce, i hvala Bogu sto ce izdati sve hard-cover knjige do tad, umesto da budu baceni u budzak (Bretonnia i Wood Elves, pre svih). Ostaje da vidi na sta ce da lici, ja licno bih bio prezadovoljan kada bi magiju "malkice" skresali....jeste to deo igre, ali ubijem-ti-pola-vojske magija ima realno previse. I uglavnom ih ne mozes spreciti. :D I kad bi izbacili pre-measure i vratili guess range.... 8-)
Ne treba zaboraviti da je GW ozbiljna firma koja ima deonicare, a prvo pravilo uvek jeste : da deonicari budu zadovoljni. 90% promena ce biti motivisano (ne)prodajom odredjenih tipova jedinica...sto se nekako i ocekivalo.
Ovo sto pise u rumorima je zapravo veoma moguce, i hvala Bogu sto ce izdati sve hard-cover knjige do tad, umesto da budu baceni u budzak (Bretonnia i Wood Elves, pre svih). Ostaje da vidi na sta ce da lici, ja licno bih bio prezadovoljan kada bi magiju "malkice" skresali....jeste to deo igre, ali ubijem-ti-pola-vojske magija ima realno previse. I uglavnom ih ne mozes spreciti. :D I kad bi izbacili pre-measure i vratili guess range.... 8-)
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
Re: Rumori
Premeasure je dobar sistem, jer na turniru sprecava ono "ima-nema" X inca do necega (probaj da zamislis koliko bi samo takvih poziva bilo na, npr., ETC bez premeasure sistema). Ostalo je crap (na celu sa random charge range-om).
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: Rumori
Za razliku od 40k gde je charge, ops isto random.na celu sa random charge range-om
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
Re: Rumori
Ne bih ulazio u neku raspravku ovo VS ono, samo mislim da su sistemi prilicno razliciti, pa je tesko porediti ovakve stvari. Primera radi, u tom istom 40k se pomera pojedinac, a ne blok. Pa tako, nakon tog neuspelog charge-a, tvoji modeli mogu da se pomere i full move unazad i u stranu, u sledecem krugu. Ne postoje "flank" i "rear", koji dosta uticu na svasta nesto, itd., itd. Za razliku od toga, u WH kada failujes charge, postanes poprilicni glineni golub za sve (posebno jer se jos pomeris napred, cime dodatno izlosis bok / rear - sto u 40k nije slucaj).
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: Rumori
Pa sad kombinacija mogu sve da merim i nema random juriša bi tek ubilo igru. Činjenica da sam ja unapred siguran da ne možeš da me ujuriš jer sam već sve izmerio a i ti isto tako, ubija svaku neizvesnost. Zato mislim da jedna stvar isključuje drugu.
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
Re: Rumori
Ono sto naizgled izgleda da je Chargovanje zapravo useless. Ali Kiwi nam objasnjava da je chargovanje zapravo usko povezano sa magijom - jurishash, tvoja faza 6PD najjaci buff, pobedis, overrunujes. :D
Re: Rumori
@no1: Pa i ne bih se bas slozio sa tim. Ja ne vidim kako se to razlikuje od "izmedju nas je 24", tvoj charge je 10", dakle ja trebam da se pomerim malo manje od 14" i da budem miran". Sto je nesto sto je svako, ko ozbiljno igra, radio u prosloj ediciji. Efekat "nagadjanja" je bio na nivou - na celom turniru cu morati 1-2 puta da nagadjam range. A i tada, onaj ko igra puno, moze da pogodi u 0,1".
@teclis: U ozbiljnim listama, sa ozbiljnim igracima i ultra-takmicarskom okruzenju, close combat je uvek bio nesto sto zelis da izbegnes. Do njega (u pomenutim slucajevima) dolazi ako si nesto zajebao. Oduvek su magija i shooting (tim redom) bili jaci od CC-a. Ma kakve buffove ti nakrcao na sebe. Jer ako ti magija / shooting ne uspe, ti imas jos krugova. A ako ti CC faza ne uspe (recimo bacis previse miss-eva u charge krugu), ti si obicno mrtav, i to obicno sa jako puno mrtvih poena. I nema "popravnog" kruga. Mag kad baci misscast nije mrtav. Kada jedan top baci missfire, pa 1, umre 100 poena. I ostali topovi pucaju normalno. A prosecan unit kosta 300-400+ poena, bez karaktera.
@teclis: U ozbiljnim listama, sa ozbiljnim igracima i ultra-takmicarskom okruzenju, close combat je uvek bio nesto sto zelis da izbegnes. Do njega (u pomenutim slucajevima) dolazi ako si nesto zajebao. Oduvek su magija i shooting (tim redom) bili jaci od CC-a. Ma kakve buffove ti nakrcao na sebe. Jer ako ti magija / shooting ne uspe, ti imas jos krugova. A ako ti CC faza ne uspe (recimo bacis previse miss-eva u charge krugu), ti si obicno mrtav, i to obicno sa jako puno mrtvih poena. I nema "popravnog" kruga. Mag kad baci misscast nije mrtav. Kada jedan top baci missfire, pa 1, umre 100 poena. I ostali topovi pucaju normalno. A prosecan unit kosta 300-400+ poena, bez karaktera.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: Rumori
Nije bash sve tako, Dzone. U ozbiljnom ultra-takmicarskom okruzenju VC i DoC pobedjuju - a to su primarno cc armije. A oni imaju jednu shooting jedinicu ( i po koji spell; vc manje ranged spellova nego DoC ). Ali da razumem u potpunosti sta oces da kazes. Tipican primer su O&G koji ti sa sve 35pts chaffovima i milijardu jedinica ne daju da pridjes, a imaju 4 vrlo jake mashine iza sebe, jedan/dva odlican 'game changing' spell, i gomilu goblinskim spellova sa sve dodatnim pechurkama PD koji poprckuju; kad oslabis protivnika mozes ga zavrsiti sa blokom peshadije i trolovima. Zanimljiva cinjenica je da su O&G osvojili 2 velika WH turnira u UK ( 120+ igracha ).Dzon Vejn wrote: @teclis: U ozbiljnim listama, sa ozbiljnim igracima i ultra-takmicarskom okruzenju, close combat je uvek bio nesto sto zelis da izbegnes. Do njega (u pomenutim slucajevima) dolazi ako si nesto zajebao. Oduvek su magija i shooting (tim redom) bili jaci od CC-a. Ma kakve buffove ti nakrcao na sebe. Jer ako ti magija / shooting ne uspe, ti imas jos krugova. A ako ti CC faza ne uspe (recimo bacis previse miss-eva u charge krugu), ti si obicno mrtav, i to obicno sa jako puno mrtvih poena. I nema "popravnog" kruga. Mag kad baci misscast nije mrtav. Kada jedan top baci missfire, pa 1, umre 100 poena. I ostali topovi pucaju normalno. A prosecan unit kosta 300-400+ poena, bez karaktera.
Re: Rumori
Držimo se teme ljudi.........
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Re: Rumori
Close combat obično pobedjuje partije, ali nije uvek tako i netreba uvek da bude tako. Ali sa close combatom možes mnogo više pojena da pokupiš nego bez. A teško neki kombat možeš da izgubiš. Puno dobrih lista i igrača idu baš na close combat, i to odmah iz prvog poteza.
DE izgeldaju veoma obećavajuče. Imaće lep shooting i magiju, imaće odlične close combat elemente, i divertere da bi te close combat opcije ušle u combat kada trebaju da udju i gde trebau da udju.
DE izgeldaju veoma obećavajuče. Imaće lep shooting i magiju, imaće odlične close combat elemente, i divertere da bi te close combat opcije ušle u combat kada trebaju da udju i gde trebau da udju.
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Re: Rumori
Mozda znacajnija promena pravila moze da pije vodu kako bi bila uskladjena sa novim "timeframe-om" izbacivanja knjiga za armije. Sto se tice prodaje, mislim da njima to ne ide lose posto su ocigledno WH priblizili mladjim uzrastima a WH40k se trude da drze za neke malo starije.
Ostaje da se nadam da sledeca edicija nece biti magicna, odnosno da se po tabli nece setati magovi sa 40 rana (posto jedinica samo sluzi kao skup counter rana za maga)
Ostaje da se nadam da sledeca edicija nece biti magicna, odnosno da se po tabli nece setati magovi sa 40 rana (posto jedinica samo sluzi kao skup counter rana za maga)
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.