Pravila koja sam primetio da se pogresno igraju

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Sutic je nasao da u ETC pravilima za ovu godinu nece biti dozvoljen multi asault single modelom... :(
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eto badava smo se ubedjivali satima :)
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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A gde je tu pecat \:D/
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A gde je tu pecat \:D/
to ostaje. u zvanicnim pravilima i gw faq nema nista o tome.
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Kakav sam ja magarac pa Black Mace je flashbane :D
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Samo jedan hint za TAU igrace VOZILIMA NE SKIDATE COVER SAVE ! ! ! Zato sto pravilo ignore cover usr radi na wounds ;)
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RatGod wrote:Samo jedan hint za TAU igrace VOZILIMA NE SKIDATE COVER SAVE ! ! ! Zato sto pravilo ignore cover usr radi na wounds ;)
Hmmm..

Iz knjige: "Cover saves cannot be taken against Wounds coused by weapons with the Ignore cover special rule."

Ako je stvarno tako samo na "to wound" to je retardirano.. :roll:
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njihov odgovor je bio citiram >
vehicles do not have wounds.

na pitanje da li razna svojstva koja daju reroll to wound rollova rade na armour penetration roll.
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Bas tako, ne vidim u cemu je tu problem.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
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"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
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"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Dark excommunication:
- during assault phase
- unit in base contact
- any Daemonic Gifts
- until the end of the phase


Pitanje, sta tacno prestaje da radi ostaje za ETC tim - da li rade psychic poweri u igri, da li mogu da se bace, i da li rade efekti itema iz sekcije Daemonic Gifts?
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ETC faq:

2.9 The Ignores Cover special rule also negates
cover saves for vehicles.

Fjuu, lakse se dise. ;)

I ovo je super sto je ovako kao sto sam igrao:

The way markerlights, target lock and drone
controller interact, a unit may see its ballistic skill
increase even though it is not actually firing at the
target of the pinpoint attack

Znaci moj kombo sa komandirom i ML dronovima radi po pravilima 100% :wink:

Ali sada npr:

1.4 A Multi-Tracker can only be used in the
shooting phase, and not during overwatch or when
using the intercept special rule.

Znaci broadside/ripdite/komandir ne mogu sa po 2 oruzja da pucaju overwatch/intercept.. zesci fail za tau :(
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Za Taue bitno : Jetpack-Units can only use their thrust move in
the assaultphase, when the unit consists entirely of
jetpack-models
. This applies also to units consisting
of Eldarjetbikes and Jetpack-Models. Znaci ako ima drone-ova nema jumpa.

I

An Ethereal's Invocation of Elements only
affects individual models within it's range. Measure
range at the start of the movement phase and
consider the ability to be an ongoing effect on
affected models.


Takodje za GK "i've been expecting you" does not work from a transport.

Za CSM - A Chaos lord on bike cannot change the bike's
bolter for an artefact from the Chaos Armoury.
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Dronovi su jetpack infantry.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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6.5 Units that don't always necessarily consist of
one model (Carnifex, Riptide, Paladin) can be joined
by IC's.

9.2 Maledictions with the same name from different
sources/casters do stack

9.3 Focussed witchfire, if successfully cast in the
case of one model unit, will affect that model
regardless of the result of the roll specified in the
rulebook.

2.7 Flying monstrous creatures gain cover saves in
the same way as monstrous creatures.

4.3 Special rules or abilities that automatically
affect enemy units and are not strictly speaking a
weapon or an attack (e.g. Tesla Arc, Objuration
Mechanicum psychic power, Malantaï's spirit leech
or Njal’s Lord of Tempests special rules) do affect
Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous
Creatures.

Models sufficiently obscured by any
portion of a Skyshield Landing Pad will receive a 3+
cover save. In order to take advantage of the 4+
invulnerable save generated by the landing pad,
only units FULLY on the top floor can claim such a
save.

1.8 Necron HQ that died in a challenge and pass
their Reanimation protocol remain locked in
challenge.

17. "I've been expecting you" applies to any unit
arriving from reserve passing within 12' and in LOS
of Coteaz during their movement, or finishing their
movement within 12' and in LOS of Coteaz. Units
that simply arrive using the deepstrike rules (gate
of infinity, Ghostwalk Mantle, …) without rolling for
reserves are exempt from this rule.. ( vau znaci moji iz portaglzpha nisu afektovani posto nema reserv roll :D )

(Ok ako jesu onda sam ja pogresio, svi dronovi?)
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ovo je jako vazno.

8.2 When special rules or wargear allowing or
forcing to reroll failed rolls oppose each other, they
cancel each other
for the type of rolls concerned.
For example, Eldar Fortune or Daemon Oracle of
Eternity vs Divination Misfortune (for any saving
throws) or Space Marines Null Zone (for
invulnerable saves). Some other examples : Yarrick
force field vs Eldar Malediction, Coteaz Spy Network
in mirror matches.

1.5 FMC cannot change facing after deepstriking
scatter in the turn it arrived.

6.9 A vehicle in base to base contact is eligible to
use a gun emplacement.

16. Fortifications cannot be placed within 3 inches
of other fortifications, or within other terrain. If the
placement of your fortification is not possible
following these guidelines, then you cannot play the
fortification that game.
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.... back to the drawing table... znaci coteaz ne moze da bude u transportu, a ovo drugo mi je sad i logicno kad malo razmislim, ne dolaze iz rezerve samo koriste deep strike rules. Sto ce onda reci da ne radi ni na gate of infinity recimo.

Ako sam dobro razumeo, ako si obscured na landing padu onda dobijas 3+ cover, sto ce reci da je landing pad ipak must za mene
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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za nenada

4.2 You can't run part of a unit while turbo boosting
the other.
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To nisam ni radio ako se ne varam. Mislim da su bili odvojeni uniti u pitanju (lord na bike-u i chaos spawns). Ako mislis na zadnju partiju i zadnje krugove kada se lord priblizio spawnovima.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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i ne kazem da jesi nego da je bitno. bajker ne moze da se krece sa njima tokom suting faze.

@svi
Takodje po ovim pravilima modeli na ovalnim bazama ulaze u btb kontakt uzom, a ne sirom stranom.


@Luka:
Ovaj FAQ nije odgovorio skoro ni na jedno pitanje koje sam imao za GK. Sta cemo da radimo?
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Bajker moze da se krece sa njima tokom suting faze, ali ne moze da radi TB ;). Bajker ima pravo na run kao i svi drugi. A umesto run moze da radi TB. Moram samo da proverim da li se fleet prenosi na sve modele u unitu ako neko ima fleet, to je dosta bitno.

Ovo za ovalne baze moze biti bitno, mada ja nisam video nikoga kod nas ko je ulazio drugacije.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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1.4. If a model in Reserve has an ability that
occurs at the start of the turn it can't arrive from
Reserves and utilize that ability in the same turn.

2.1 Models are expected to be WYSIWYG (What you
see is what you get). There’s will be a margin of
tolerance for non-weapon wargear. Units and
detachments must be differentiated by any visible
means (squad markings, weapons, shoulder pads,
helmet colours...) or preferably a combination of
such means. Using differentiating colour marks
on the side of the base provides a default
objective criteria for referee decision in
differentiating units and detachments. Referee
will ask non-compliant models to be removed from
the table upon inspection or opponent’s request.

2.4 In case of ruling required where the size of the
model must be taken into account, the size
dimensions of the latest range of citadel
warhammer 40000 miniatures models will be used.
Players using converted, old or alternate models
are expected to be able to provide the model from - ETC 2013 Clarifications v1.0 - 3 / 33
the latest range upon referee or opponent’s
request.

4.1 When deploying forces, units can be deployed
into impassable terrain only if it has a special rule
allowing it to do so or if it would be allowed to
move there during the game (such as a skimmer on
top of an impassable building).

2.1 Feel free to move aside trees getting in
the way during games.


4.1 sam stavio zbog sebe. Da li se ovo odnosi i na landing pad sa mantikorama na njemu? Posto sam landing pad nije impassable nego open ground, ali mantikore ne bi mogle same da se popnu na njega posto vozila ne mogu da se penju na spratove. Molim te Luka, postavi ovo pitanje na forumu, da znam da li mi treba landing pad ili aegis.
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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Za Sutica, pitao sam sve ali vidim i ja da fale stvari ne znam sta da ti kazem.
Nikola ja verujem da moze na pad, a pitanja su zatvorena nema vise to je sto je.
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Avioni izbacuju maksimum dve rakete !
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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gde pise?
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U BRB-u.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Ali od Perilsa nemam sajv nikakav tako da to znaci da generalno ne smem da idem na stormravene ;)
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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