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Ovde mozete postovati liste koje isprobavate kao i razne zle kombinacije.

Evo za nase voljene Tau igrace, kada rade allies sa Farsight suplementom mogu da naprave ovo :

The Ovesa Death Star. 2 riptides/ a buff commander/farsight/4 shield drones/2 marker drones all in a Death Star. All are twin linked, all ignore cover, riptides can split fire out with tank hunters or mc hunters while the remainder of the unit markerlights and removes cover and shoots smart missiles at bs5. Also talisman for protection againt jaws. Not to mention rerollable nova charge on Ovesa for that 3++ and 2+ and majority t6 all around which means wound allocations up the wazoo.

A evo i liste :

Tau Empire: Farsight Enclaves (2013) (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ (No Category) + (305pts)

* Farsight's Commander Team (305pts)
(HQ choice (not counting towards FoC))
* Honour-Shas'vre O'Vesa (305pts)
(Independent Character, Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire)
Early warning override, Earth Caste Pilot Array (*), Ion accelerator, Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Stimulant injector, Twin-linked fusion blaster
* 2x Shielded Missile Drone
2x Missile pod, 2x Shield generator


+ HQ + (165pts)

* Commander Farsight (165pts)
(Independent Character, Preferred Enemy (Orks), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky)
Crisis battlesuit, Plasma rifle, Shield generator, The Dawn Blade


+ Elites + (650pts)

* XV104 Riptide (270pts)
(Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire)
Early warning override (5pts), Ion accelerator (5pts), Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Talisman of Arthas Moloch (25pts) (*), Target lock (5pts), Twin-linked fusion blaster
* 2x Shielded Missile Drone (50pts)
2x Missile pod, 2x Shield generator


* XV104 Riptide (190pts)
(Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire)
Early warning override (5pts), Ion accelerator (5pts), Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked smart missile system


* XV104 Riptide (190pts)
(Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire)
Early warning override (5pts), Ion accelerator (5pts), Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked smart missile system


+ Troops + (229pts)

* Kroot Carnivore Squad (65pts)
(Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Stealth (Forests) ())
Kroot Hound (5pts) (Acute Senses)
* 10x Kroot (60pts)
10x Kroot rifle


* XV8 Crisis Team (compulsory) (164pts)
(Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky)
Bonding Knife Ritual (3pts) (*)
* Crisis Shas'ui (57pts)
Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)
* Crisis Shas'ui (52pts)
Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts)
* Crisis Shas'ui (52pts)
Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts)


+ Heavy Support + (232pts)

* Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship (116pts)
Blacksun filter (1pts), 2x Networked markerlight, 6x Seeker missile, Two Gun Drones, Velocity tracker


* Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship (116pts)
Blacksun filter (1pts), 2x Networked markerlight, 6x Seeker missile, Two Gun Drones, Velocity tracker


Tau Empire 6th Ed (2013) (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (204pts)

* Commander (204pts)
(Independent Character, Supporting Fire, Very Bulky)
Command and Control Node (15pts), Crisis battlesuit, Drone controller (8pts), Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite (20pts), Neuroweb System Jammer (2pts), Onager Gauntlet (5pts), Puretide Engram Neurochip (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts), XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit (25pts)
* 2x Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight


+ Troops + (65pts)

* Kroot Carnivore Squad (65pts)
(Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Stealth (Forests) ())
Kroot Hound (5pts) (Acute Senses)
* 10x Kroot (60pts)
10x Kroot rifle

Total: 1850 on the dot.
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Zanimljivo. 8O
Imam modele da ovo testiramo, tako da vec od utorka ko hoce - mozemo da probamo.
Jedino mi je smor sto nemam suplement knjigu, ali valjda ce to biti uskoro dostupno da se kupi van ebook varijante. :)
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Tacna lista koja je sada uzela NOVA turnir :

Ok guys, here is the NOVA Open winning list demonstrating what I was talking about: Justin Cook, Tau/Tau

Primary detachment (farsight enclaves)

Hq

farsight
165

O’vesa
305

Troops:

3 crisis suits, bonding knifex3, missile podx3
114

10 kroot
60

1 crisis suit, missile pod, bonding knife
38

1 crisis suit, missile pod, bonding knife
38

Elites:

riptide, ion accelerator, twin linked smart missile system, early warning override
190

riptide, ion accelerator, twin linked smart missile system, early warning override, positional relay
195

riptide, heavy burst cannon, twin linked smart missile system, velocity tracker, target lock, 2 shielded missile drones, talisman of arthas moloch
280

Heavy support

skyray, smart missile system, blacksun filter
116

skyray, smart missile system, blacksun filter
116

Allied detachment (codex tau)

Hq:
commander, command and control node, multispectrum sensor suite, iridium armor, puretide chip, onager gauntlet, vectored retrothrusters, neuroweb system jammer
172

Troops:

10 kroot
60

1849pts.
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IDEJA: deny points lista

HQ:
mag, bez marka, bike, sigil of corruption (4+ inv), force axe, familiar (RR neuspelih magija), level 3, warlord
mag, bez marka, bike, sigil of corruption (4+ inv), force axe, familiar (RR neuspelih magija), level 3

TROOP:
2 x cultists

FAST:
5 nurgle spawns
5 nurgle spawns
5 spawns

HEAVY:
nurgle obliterator
nurgle obliterator
nurgle obliterator

ALLY:
5 necron warriors in nightscythe
5 necron warriors in nightscythe
5 deathmarks in nightscythe
cryptek sa template-om
necron overlord sa warscythe i mindshackle scarabs

Neke od mogucih varijacija na temu: izbaci se 1 obliterator i ne-warlordu 4+ inv da bi se ubacila jos jedna anhi. barge-a, deathmarci se zamene sa wraithovima, 1 spawns se zamene sa zmajem, itd. Mislim da ovako sastavljena lista moze svakoj listi da odgovori sa ~10:10, mada sve to jos treba dosta testirati. Cryptek + deathmark unit je tu kada se pojavi nesto sa saveom 2+. Osim za to, za drugo mi nisu potrebni generalno. Eventualno za high-T modele. Nekronske letelice su se izuzetno pokazale u svakoj partiji do sada. Necron overlord ima duplu ulogu - moze nekog zajebanog baju da zaveze sa mind. scarabs, a moze i da posluzi za rastakanje nekih vozila. 3 x po 1 obliterator mi se pokazao bolje nego 2x2 obliteratora.

Ovako nesto sam probao na turniru i imao 3 pobede. Probao sam juce protiv Luke, sa sve isprovanjem raznih fora sam odigrao 9:11 (plus nisam dobio ni jedan invisibility). Moram da probam protiv par ozbiljnih tau lista (koje mislim da su mi i najveca pretnja). I protiv puno fly MC-a (mislim da ovo cak trebam i da dobijam). I protiv Suticevih 1 wound instakill delija :D (mada mi ova lista deluje bolje od one prethodne sa kojom sam isto igrao oko 10-10 sa njim).

edit: ostaje i dilema: da li force axe ili force staff...

Testeri dobrodosli.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Eve vam pobednička lista sas ovogodišnjega Adepticon-a...

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smehotresno...
Pamti, pa vrati...

Ignorance is bliss.
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I ja kazem, poenta je Dule da se Adepticon igra mnogo drugacije, misije su mnogo drugacije kao i ukupno bodovanje. Nick jeste dobar igrac ali lista nije toliko jaka :wink: .
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Dule?........................................................... :?
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hodor? hodoooor!
Pamti, pa vrati...

Ignorance is bliss.
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Mislio sam Deko \:D/
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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5 od 6 misija su kill poeni + screamer star ima 2+,4+ inv a ne 2+ sa re rollom :twisted: ( tako su ga kompovali ).
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Top 16 listi sa ovogodisnjeg Adepticona:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2014/04/ ... ips-lists/\

Uzivajte. 8-)
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Ja bogami nasao 4 paklene liste :applause:
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Nisam pogledao sve liste detaljno, ali od onoga sto sam video, najzanimljivija mi je ona sa Karandrasom, Eldradom i Asdrubael Vectom..nema nekog logicnog objasnjenja, jednostavno bih voleo da je odigram u nekom trenutku. :D

A bi li, ooo mocni kapitenu, podelio sa nama neukima koje su to cetiri liste koje su ti zapale za oko?
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Report Nick-a sa Adepticona, trenutno smo u kontaktu :twisted:

http://www.torrentoffire.com/4339/how-the-win-went-down
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@nenad

ja bih svakako ubacio zmaja u tu listu posto on odnese skvod marinaca ko nista. Samo to nije deny lista nego lista za pobedu
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Ja bi zamolio da svi dobro prouce liste, malo cemo prodiskutovati o njima.
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Imam 3 zmaja u listi ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Mislim da ti ne trebaju ni zasta 3, dva bi trebalo da budu MAX !
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Da mi to probamo pa da vidimo ;).

Svi najbolji CSM igraci od prosle godine su imali 3 komada ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa pogledaj malo liste koje su se plasirale daleko na Adepticonu i drugim turnirima, a mozes i ETC od prosle godine da uzmes liste i vidis kako su se plasirali ti igraci iako se meta promenila zbog Eldara, nema nigde 3 zmaja :geek:
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Cekaj, taj adepticon, koliko sam razumeo, ima neki composition. To automatski znaci da on nema veze sa ETC-om. Takodje, ako se ne varam, adepticon ima terene koji su prilicno visoki, sto ETC nema. To takodje znatno utice na cinjenicu da li 4 demona rade ili ne rade (prevedeno na srpski: da li imaju gde da se sakriju ili masu krilcima po poljani dok protivnik puca po njima).

A proslogodisnje liste sam detaljno gledao i nisi bas u pravu. Prvih nekoliko igraca su svi imali 3 zmaja. Gledao sam recimo top 5-6-7 CSM igraca. Polovina njih je imala neku varijaciju liste koju ja hocu da vodim (3 zmaja, nekron saveznici sa nekoliko nighty scythe-ova + barza ili onaj heavy letac sto puca liniju (u kom slucaju imaju manje night scytheova)). Jedan je imao saveznike IG + CSM i listu koja je bila bazirana na 120 pucanja autocannonima (mislim da je on bio 2. CSM igrac na celom ETC-u). Mislim da samo 1 ili 2 od prvih 7 nije imao 3 nego 2 zmaja, i da su to bili igraci koji su iza top 5 CSM igraca. Mislim da je 1 od top 7 irgaca imao neki combo sa bastionom.

Svakako cu pogledati liste i sa adepticona, a pogledacu i jos jednom liste sa ETC-a, ali znam sigurno da su imali po 3 komada.

edit: saboravih: a bitna je i cinjenica da li sam ja igrac koji ce biti champion (o cemu smo prethodno pricali) ili igrac koji ce biti uparen "da uzme sve poene". Jer to znatno menja sastav armije.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo i detalja:
#1 CSM, i #2 igrac na UKUPNOM ETCu:
Dan Aher:

PRIMARY
HQ 1: Typhus: Warlord - [230]
Troop 1: 18 Plague Zombies - [82]
Troop 2: 17 Plague Zombies - [78]
FA 1: Helldrake: Bale Flamer - [170]
FA 2: Helldrake: Bale Flamer - [170]
FA 3: Helldrake: Bale Flamer - [170]
PRIMARY TOTAL: [900]

ALLIES
HQ 1: Overlord(90): Warscythe(10), Sempiternal Weave(15), Mindshackle Scarabs(15) - [130]
HQ 1a: Royal Court: 2 Harbingers of the Storm (50) with Voltaic Staffs (0) ; Harbinger of Despair (25) with an Abyssal staff (5) - [80]
Elite 1: 5 Deathmarks - [95] in Transport 1
Troop 1: 5 Immortals with Gauss Blasters - [85] in Transport 2
Troop 2: 5 Immortals with Gauss Blasters - [85] in Transport 3
HS 1: Doom Scythe - [175]
Transport 1: Nightscythe - [100]
Transport 1: Nightscythe - [100]
Transport 1: Nightscythe - [100]

ALLY TOTAL [950]
ARMY TOTAL: [1850]

#2 CSM, #13 na ukupnom ETC-u:
Anze Horvat(woody) - to je ta lista sa beskonacno autocannona
PLAYER 1: Anže "woody" Horvat
ARMY PRIMARY DETACHMENT DESCRIPTION : Chaos Space Marines
ARMY ALLIED DETACHMENT DESCRIPTION : Imperial Guard

PRIMARY DETACHMENT: Chaos Space Marines
HQ1 - Warlord : Daemon Prince (145pts), (Psyker- Mastery Level 3 (75 pts), Power Armour (20 pts), Wings (40 pts), Daemon ot Tzeentch (15 pts), Gift of Mutation (10 pts), Spell Familiar (15 pts),
Weapon: The Black Mace (45 pts)) Total cost: 365pts

Troop 1 : Chaos space marines (4 marines (52pts)- (3bolters, 1 Meltagun (10pts)), 1 aspiring champion (23pts) (bolt pistol, ccw)) Total cost: 85pts
Troop 2 : Chaos Cultists (9 custists (36pts)- (9 autopistols, 9 CCW), 1 Custist Champion (14pts)- (autopistol, CCW)) Total cost: 50pts

FA1: Chaos Spawn (5 Chaos Spawns (30 pts per model- 150pts), Mark of nurgle (6pts per model- total cost 30 pts) Total cost: 180pts
FA2: Chaos Spawn (5 Chaos Spawns (30 pts per model- 150pts), Mark of nurgle (6pts per model- total cost 30 pts) Total cost: 180pts
FA3: Heldrake (Baleflamer) Total cost: 170pts

HS1: Chaos Havocs (4 Havoc (52pts) - (4 Autocannon (40pts)), Aspiring Champion (bolt pistol, CCW (23pts))) Total cost: 115pts
HS2: Chaos Havocs (4 Havoc (52pts) - (4 Autocannon (40pts)), Aspiring Champion (bolt pistol, CCW (23pts))) Total cost: 115pts
HS3: Chaos Havocs (4 Havoc (52pts) - (4 Autocannon (40pts)), Aspiring Champion (bolt pistol, CCW (23pts))) Total cost: 115pts

FORTIFICATIONS: Aegis defence line (50pts), Gun emplacement : Quad-gun (50pts) Total cost:100 pts
PRIMARY TOTAL [ 1475pts ]

ALLIED DETACHMENT: Imperial Guard
HQ1 : Company Command Squad (50pts) - (4 Guardsmen (Lasgun), Company Commander (Las pistol, CCW) Total cost: 50pts

Troop 1 : Infantry platoon ( Infantry Squad1 (50pts) - 6 Guardsmen (Lasgun), 1 Seargent (Las pistol, CCW), Heavy Weapons Team (Autocannon (10pts), Special weapon Flamer (5pts)) Total cost: 65pts)
( Infantry Squad2 (50pts) - 7 Guardsmen (Lasgun, 1 Vox Caster-5pts), 1 Seargent (Las pistol, CCW), Heavy Weapons Team (Autocannon (10pts), Special weapon Flamer (5pts)), Total cost: 70pts)

(Platoon Command Squad (30pts) - Platoon Commander (Las pistol, CCW), 4 Guardsmen (3x Lasgun, 1x Meltagun (10pts))), Total cost: 40pts)

(Heavy Weapons Squad1 (60pts) - 3 Autocannon (15pts), Total cost: 75pts)
(Heavy Weapons Squad2 (60pts) - 3 Autocannon (15pts), Total cost: 75pts)
Total cost: 325pts

ALLIED TOTAL [ 375pts ]
ARMY TOTAL [ 1850pts ]

#3 CSM, #25 ukupno:
Eduard Berdjugin
ARMY PRIMARY DETACHMENT DESCRIPTION : Chaos Space Marines
ARMY ALLIED DETACHMENT DESCRIPTION : Chaos Daemons

PRIMARY DETACHMENT (1380 pts):

HQ1 (warlord): Daemon Prince (The Black Mace(45); Daemon of Tzeentch(15); Power Armour(20); Wings(40)) [265 pts]
HQ2: Daemon Prince (axe of blind fury (35), daemon of khorne(15), power armor(20), wings(40)) [255 pts]
Troop 1: Chaos cultists [50 pts]
Troop 2: 5 Chaos Space Marines (mark of nurgle (3x5)) [90 pts]
FA1: Helldrake (baleflamer) [170 pts]
FA2: Helldrake (baleflamer) [170 pts]
FA3: Helldrake (baleflamer) [170 pts]
HS1: Havocs (4x autocannons (10x4)) [115 pts]
Fort: Imperial Bastion (comms relay) [95 pts]
ALLIED DETACHMENT (470 pts):

HQ3: Bloodthirster (2x greater rewards (20x2)) [290 pts]
Troop 3: Daemonettes of Slaanesh [90 pts]
Troop 4: Daemonettes of Slaanesh [90 pts]
[TOTAL: 1850pts]

#4 CSM, #26 ukupno:
Mathieu T(Throst)
Army: Chaos Space Marines, Necron allies

HQ1 (Warlord): Abaddon - [265pts]
Troop1: 28 Cultists (50+18x4), 2 Flamers (2x5) - [132pts]
Troop2: 10 Cultists (50), Heavy Stubber (5) - [55pts]
FA1: Helldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) - [170pts]
FA2: Helldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) - [170pts]
FA3: Helldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) - [170pts]
Fo1: Aegis Defense Line (50), Quad-gun (50) - [100pts]
PRIMARY TOTAL [1 062pts]

ALLIES (Necrons)
HQ1a: Necron Overlord (90), Warscythe (10), Smpiternal Weave (15), Mindshackle Scarabs (15) - [130pts] in Transport 1
HQ1b: Cryptek (25), Harbingers of the Storm with Voltaic Staff (-) - [25pts]
HQ1c: Cryptek (25), Harbingers of the Storm with Voltaic Staff (-) - [25pts]
Troop1: 8 Necron Warriors (8x13) - [104pts] in Transport 2
Troop2: 8 Necron Warriors (8x13) - [104pts] in Transport 3
HS1: Annihilation Barge (90), Tesla Cannon (0) - [90pts]
Transport1 : Catacomb Command Barge , Tesla Cannon (0) - [80pts] transporting HQ1
Transport2 : Ghost Ark - [115pts] transporting Troop2
Transport3 : Ghost Ark - [115pts] transporting Troop2
ALLIED TOTAL [788pts]

ARMY TOTAL [1 850pts]

#5 CSM, #28 ukupno:
Jonathan V(Elda)
PRIMARY DETACHMENT:

HQ1 : Chaos Lord (65): Juggernaut of Khorne (35), Mark of Khorne (10), Sigil Of Corruption (25), Axe Of Blind Fury (35) melta bomb (5) [175]
HQ2: Sorcerer (65): lvl 3 (50), WARLORD [115]
Troop 1: 10 Cultists [50]
Troop 2: 10 Cultists [50]
FA 1: Heldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) [170]
FA 2: Heldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) [170]
FA 3: Heldrake (170), Baleflamer (0) [170]
Fortification: Aegis Defense Line (50), Comms Relay (20) [70]
ALLIED DETACHMENT:
HQ1 : Destroyer Lord (125), Sempiternal Wave (15), Mindshackle Scarabs (20) [160]
Troop 1 : Immortals (85), with gauss (0) [85] in Transport 1
Troop 2 : Immortals (85), with gauss (0) [85] in Transport 2
FA1: 5 Wraiths (175) [175]
HS1: Doomscythe [175]
Transport1 : Nightscythe [100]
Transport2 : Nightscythe [100]
ARMY TOTAL [1850pts]

Dakle od top 5 igraca, 4 su imali 3 helldrake-a. Mogu i dalje da gledam, ali znam da je tako bilo....

edit: referentni linkovi:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=expl ... 281%29.pdf
https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=expl ... 0+Team.pdf
http://forum.klubzmaj.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11048
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ne vidim cemu uopste "rasprava" kada vam to ionako nece biti konacne liste..ima jos puno meseci do predaje lista za ETC, a samim tim i puno pripremnih partija da se odigra. :roll:

Dule (SW Drop Pod) i ja smo igrali 3-4 bitke i prosli kroz jos jedno 5-6 listi pre nego sto smo dosli do one "optimalne", a sada se i to izmenilo posto mu ne trebaju Choser of the Slain jer, po sadasnjem FAQ-u ne moras da bacas to-hit sa JOWW, tako da je tu dobio nekih 40-60 poena koji uticu na neke izmene u listi...itd itd.

Tako da, sedite, dogovorite se oko jednog termina nedeljno i pocnite da se spremate. Na PM. Jer se ljudi ocigledno slabo odazivaju kada neko javno kaze da ce doci da se igra.
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Pa i nije rasprava, nego komentarisanje cinjenica, valjda? Nema nikakve negativnosti, barem sa moje strane. Jasno je meni da Luka worshipuje Nicka Navatija :D, ali to ne znaci da lista sa kojom on uzme turnir (a koji ima zasebna pravila i drugacjie terene) automatski prestavlja jedini dobar izbor (pri cemu uopste ne sporim kvalitet liste sa 4 demon princa - cak sam je i isprobavao).

Meni licno ne lezi stil igre gde imam 5 modela, svaki po 350 poena (isprobao). I generalno ono gde ima jako malo modela. Npr. Sutic je pokazao da njemu takve liste savrseno leze :D.

Takodje, to sto si pomenuo je jako dobar komentar - ja smatram izuzetno neozbiljnim cinjenicu da se bas niko ne javi za probne partije. Sada je skoro polovina aprila. Prosle godine, ja sam u februaru vec imao neki ozbiljan broj testnih partija.... Mislim da bi svi trebali da se uozbilje i krenu sa igranjem. Naravno, ukoliko se stvarno juri top 5 pozicija (vodite racuna da su Finci bili u top 5, sa sve onim klincem koji deluje kao retard: ali je svako od njih odigrao po 270 partija u zadnjih mesec dana pred turnir). Hocu da kazem - testiranje liste je jednako vazan aspekt igranja, kao i sastavljanje igre.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Takodje nista lose ni sa moje strane.
Ne worshipujem Nicka Navatija, vec mi samo sluzi kao primer ( ja ispadoh cak i bolji Demon igrac od njega :wink: , a i inace ).

Meta se menja, i iako kod nas to nije uzelo maha jer nemamo Eldar/Tau/Dark Eldar kombinacije to je ono sto sada maltretira, bas kao i SM sa raznim nekim mogucnostima.

Poenta nije da mislim da je zmaj los, vec ajde da vidimo koga on maltretira i da li tih modela ima u igri toliko ( slazem se da treba da budu sa Necronima, i da se maksimizuje broj letelica), znaci ovakvo je moje zapazanje :

Protiv sledecih:

Tau - moze da mu ubije trupe koje i ovako ginu od promaje, ali ima problem sa brodsidima i riptideima ( sad ce biti lista sa 5 ), i tu je taj treci previse bolje da iskoriste poeni na nesto drugo.

Eldar/DE - ima sve u vozilima, i ima seer-e sa re roll AS 2+ ili Inv 2+ sa rerollom, opet problem ti ljudi nemaju trupe koje stoje napolju zato su tu bastioni AV 14 ( opet problem za zmaja ).

Demoni - da trupe im umru od zmaja i vecina ne moze da stigne da ubije ni 2 pre toga a kamo li tri, pa opet taj treci je visak

SM - njih maltretira, ali oni su supportovani sa svojim avionima i tu je natezanje i cini mi se da opet taj 1 ne pravi razliku, vec da je za te poene bolje imati jedne spawnove sa lordom koji su versatilni i ne moraju uvek da se zalecu preko pola table u prvom potezu a opet kad se pojave poljance

ovo je moje misljenje.

Misije su kljucne i da drukcije su nego na svim ostalim turnirima pa zato i nije bitno sto oni igraju cele godine kad igraju drukcije, bice im i teze da promene stil igre :D
Ja takodje apelujem na igrace da se odazivaju na pripremne partije, posebno NIKOLA ( ponesi SUticu modele ) :D

P.S. Nenade uzmi u obzir ne samo koji su ti CSM bili prosle godine kao CSM vec i sta je njihova reprzentacija uradila u ukupnom plasmanu ;)
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Potpuno se slazem da je potrebno sve testirati. Takodje, potrebno je definisati uloge. Nije isto da li lista ide kao "sampion" ili kao "uzmi bodove". Jer ako idem kao "uzmi bodove", onda necemo uopste razmatrati mnogo sta - ja cu cekati uparivanje koje mi odgovara da bih uzeo poene. Ako idem kao "sampion", onda moram da imam poneko resenje za sve. Tako sam i sastavio listu (mada mislim da ta lista u mnogo situacija moze da radi i kao "uzmi poene" lista).

Evo sta cemu sluzi:
Necron Lord sa warscythe na barzi - on otvara velike oklope. Preletanjem preko necega, njegov warscythe radi najnormalnije.
Deathmarci sa cryptekom - imaju jednom po partiji AP 2 pitu. Dovoljno za terminatore i slicne stvari.
Ostala 2 kripteka sluze za liste sa puno vozila, za lake glance/pen hitove.
Letelice - cuvaju poene, ponistavaju objektive, napucavaju, itd. Nekronske letelice cuvaju trupere koji se u poslednjem krugu pojave na tabli, na objektivu (efektivni range je bese 30" ili cak 36", posto imaju ono ultrasonic pravilo).
Demon princ - moze da otvori velike oklope, a moze i da radi protiv mase. Generalno se negde steka, dok ne dodje pravi trenutak.
Zid sa comm. links - daje cover kultistima (u cosku table) ukoliko dobijem neku losu tablu, i daje celoj armiji da ima re-roll toga kada ce doci. To je onda 6 letelica koje na 3+ sa RR dolaze u drugom krugu (plus jedna koja je tu od prvog kruga i steka se negde, dok ne dodju ostale).
Kultisti - dolaze iz rezerve (princ i barza su tu na startu, tako da oba unita kultista mogu da dolaze kasnije).
Dobar zglob - tera protivnika da igra prvi, kako bi mu propalo sto vise krugova pucanja :D.

Shodno tome, ovo je jedna prilicno verzatilna lista, koja moze puno toga da regulise. Smatram da ne mogu da regulisem neku gadnu gomilu AS2+ (mada ne znam koja je to lista koja ima toliko AS2+), imam problem sa velikim brojem AV14 listi. Pa i AV 13 mi bas ne prijaju, mada su lakse za regulisanje. Mislim da bih imao problem sa Tau armijom koja ima "pravilno opremljen" death star (protiv te armije, odugovlacio bih maksimalno dolazenje aviona, kako bih pokusao da moji avioni dodju POSLE death stara). Mislim da Tau bez death stara ima problem da me pobedi, ali to sve treba testirati.

Sa druge strane, ne vidim kako bih spawnove uklopio u koncept ove armije. Problem je sto ne vidim sta ce 1 unit spawnova da uradi (osim da umre i pokloni poene). To naravno ne znaci i da ne gresim i da postoji nesto sto sam prevideo - to se vec ustanovljava testiranjem ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Gde mogu da nadjem koja reprezentacija je zavrsila na kom mestu? Ima sve ostale raznorazne imbecilne statistike, ali nigde nemam ovo?

Inace, znam da su nemci valjda bili u top 3 (njihov CSM igrac je bio #6 CSM), i sad tek vidim da je to skoro identicna lista koju sam ja sastavio. Razlika je sto on ima doom scythe, a ja bolje opremljenog demona i vise kripteka.

Ostalih top 5 CSM igraca je iz:
Irska
Slovenija
Latvia
Francuska
Belgija
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ni jedna od tih reprezentacija nije uradila nista. :D

Aj pricacemo uzivo, samo nemoj biti tvrdoglav na kraju :wink:

A da moramo da vidimo i za uloge, po meni ti DP u listi ne treba vec za te poene mozda lord i spawnovi ( vise rana, skoro isto biju ), i mislim da ti ne treba toliko crypteka.

Pogledaj liste Nemaca, Poljaka, Svedjana ( kapitena ), Spanaca, Finaca, Engleza, Belorusija, Rusija, Ukrajna. Pa jos onda nadji te ljude sta su uradili na singles-u jer su svi vodili iste liste tako da ih samo nadji po imenima ;)

P.S. Tesko ce deathmarci i cryptek ubiti terminatore ili sta god sa AS 2+ jer to ima i Inv bar 3+ .
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Pa i nije rasprava, nego komentarisanje cinjenica, valjda? Nema nikakve negativnosti, barem sa moje strane............................
RatGod wrote:Takodje nista lose ni sa moje strane.
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Jeste rasprava, samo nije NEGATIVNA rasprava kao sto obojica mislite. :P
Rasprava ≠ Svadja


Jedva cekam da vas vidim u klubu kako vezbate jedan protiv drugog. :lol:
Predlog: Obojica napravite listu koja ide na win, Primary Detachment CSM, ostalo po izboru, pa Best of 3. :D
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Pogledacu i to, ali znam da su nemci bili dobro plasirani (cak ako se ne varam prvi?), i da je njegova lista skoro pa ista kao moja.

Nisam tvrdoglav, nemam problem da ubacim spawnove (manje farbanja! :D), samo moram da znam koja je ideja sa njima, jer je ne vidim. Mislim da se mnogo bavimo teorijom a malo praksom.

Ispisacu i taj spisak (singles + prvih par reprezentacija CSM). Moze i ta opcija da probamo obe liste, pa best of 3. A i Luka i ja smo raspravili (malo uzivo, malo preko PM) sta smo imali, i ne vidim da cemo imati problem (i to mogu da garantujem sa obe strane) da odigramo partiju, niti da odradimo bilo kakvo vezbanje ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pokusacu iz glave da izvucem ko su bili dobri timovi:
NEMACKA:
Nils „Schnuffi“ Peters, nije igrao singles, #6 CSM, #37 overall, lista skoro identicna mojoj

POLJSKA:
Romek, Split, Łakomiak, nije igrao singles, #18 CSM, #137 overall, lista ima 3 helldrake-a, samo umesto DP ima lorda nurgleovca, ima obliteratore, ima manje necron saveznika (verujem da je to eksperimentisanje i razlog ovakvog plasmana)

SPANIJA:
Fernado Castañón (Shadowblade), nije igrao singles, #7 CSM, #38 overall, u listi ima kombinaciju 2 helldrakea, 2 unita obliteratora, i unit wraithova.

FINSKA:
Jukka "Tukka-Jukka" Halme, nije igrao singles, #23 CSM, #164 overall (to je losije cak i od moje deny liste (#20 CSM, #143 overall). Inace je imao neki cudni combo CSM + orks.

SVEDZZZZZANI:
Daniel "Papa D" Hesselberg, #8 CSM, #45 overall, na singlesu #14. On je ima combo 2 sa 2 unita spawnova i unitom wraithova, plus 1 zmaj i nekronske letelice.

USA (mislim da nisu imali neki plasman, ali da su dobri igraci):
Joe “The Hammer” Cherry, nije igrao singles, #25 (od 26) CSM, #197 (od 224) overall. Imao je listu sa ahrimanom i gomilom kultista. Licno, sa tom listom, smatram da je i to mesto uspeh :D.

WALES (to su oni sto su nas razbili najstrasnije):
Matt, Solvay, Robertson, 78 na singlesu, #12 CSM, #83 overall, 3 zmaja, 2 unita obliteratora, wraithovi i par necron letelica.

Iz singlesa (ne znam kakvi su Rusi bili overall kao tim):
Bogdan "Sentinel" Novikov (RUS), #9 singles, #13 timski CSM, #89 timski overall. Typhus, plague marinci u rhinou, plague kultisti, 2 zmaja, spawnovi, bastion, havocs, 2 puta obliteratori

Inace u singlesu vise i nema nekih ozbiljnih CSM igraca (nakon toga, prvi sledeci je 40. na listi).

Od pomenutih listi, ono sto bih ja izdvojio jesu:
Nemacka, Spanija i Svedzzzzzani. To su liste na koje bih ja obratio paznju. Svaka od njih ima specificnu rolu u timu. I mislim da sve rade ono sto treba da rade. Jedna od njih naginje mojoj listi, jedna naginje onome sto ti predlazes, i jedna je neki combo izmedju te dve opcije.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Nesto nije u redu sa top 16 na adeptikonu. nema grej najtova.
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Ja sam igrao protiv tog Rusa, jeste smrad ali jako dobar igrac.

Ja sad pocinjem ozbiljno da se igram i igracu sa svakim, samo molim da i ostali polako pocinju i malo urade na internetu pretragu reportova sa turnira, i za armije koje ih zanimaju, malo vise angazovanja nego prosle godine.
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
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Nove 3 liste za isprobavanje su (pocinjem da bivam ubedjen da su necroni prava armija za Nikolu):

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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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a plast? nemoj da zobravis plast koji krivi vreme
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plast koji krivi vreme bi trebao da stavi figure u moju kutiju u klubu. debeli.
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Mislim da je krajnje vreme da krenes dalje Suticu. Ti i lista ne mozete biti doveka zajedno, a i udaljili ste se dosta u poslednje vreme, ne vidjate se..
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Jako zanimljiv clanak, preporucujem svima da bace pogled, a ja cu samo quote-ovati jedan deo Nikoli..setice se on nase price juce.. :D
Na ovogodisnjem Adepticonu...
Top Allied Combinations were:

Space Marines/Tau (Centurionstars)
Eldar/Dark Eldar (Beaststars)
Tau/ Eldar (Commander/Seer hi jinx)
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/04/ ... ition.html

P.S.
Sada sam siguran da onaj moj Centurionstar moze da se unapredi i napravi da bude jos bolji.. 8-)
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da li neko zna napamet da li moze imperijalna garda da se udruzi (ally) sama sa sobom?

interesuje me bas ETC ruling
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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