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Megabaja wrote:samo mora da bude, pazi sad :wink: , kao, slucajno :wink: :wink: .
:D :D :D
Ne mora - imas clanak o warmachine-ama koji to objasnjava i specificno kaze da moze i da je dozvoljeno. A ima i u novijem ruulebook-u gde kaze - "ignoring targeting restrictions".
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A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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Long live Great Cannons!!!!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
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TheMarko wrote:Long live Great Cannons!!!!
Misfire, pa kec. Uf, kako to volim :lol:
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Pitanje za bolter:
Da li strela probija dalje redove ako se prvi probije a potom se žrtva spasi na ward save.
Kao Bretonaca to pravilo me je uvek bunilo :-k
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Petar-Pan. wrote:Pitanje za bolter:
Da li strela probija dalje redove ako se prvi probije a potom se žrtva spasi na ward save.
Kao Bretonaca to pravilo me je uvek bunilo :-k
Strela NE ide dalje ...

Da bi strela isla dalje mora da UBIJE "cikicu" iz prvog reda ... a Bretonac se jel da spasao :mrgreen:
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correctamundo.
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Luka_Pancevo wrote:
TheMarko wrote:Long live Great Cannons!!!!
Misfire, pa kec. Uf, kako to volim :lol:
A pre toga Second sign pa reroll . . . :D phew . . . A opet, ima jos dva sta se ja brinem . . . :P
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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A jesi li siguran da možeš Second sign da koristiš da riroluješ misfire na mašinama?
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žubor wrote:
Petar-Pan. wrote:... a Bretonac se jel da spasao :mrgreen:
Nije valjda da sumnjaš u Bretonca... :D
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No 1 wrote:A jesi li siguran da možeš Second sign da koristiš da riroluješ misfire na mašinama?
Svaki d6, dakle misfire chart, ne mozes reroll-ovati artillery niti scatter dice jer, kako im ime kaze, oni su artillery i scatter dice a ne D6.
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Bilo koju d6 kocku do kraja tvog kruga . . . - Pa kako mislis da ti prezivi hellblaster?
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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Blablatruc je pomesao stvari ;) posto nije igrao eonima ;).... na misfire chart-u bacas d6 ;).... a da bi dosao do misfire-a trebas da bacis art+scat dice i da na art dobijes ! ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa da, to pokusavam i da kazem :lol:
Mozda losa upotreba interpunkcijskih znakova u mom postu stvara zabunu...
Elem, htedoh samo napomenuti da Artilleru i Scatter dice nisu D6, to je sve. Izvinjavam se zbog zabune.
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TheMarko wrote:Bilo koju d6 kocku do kraja tvog kruga . . . - Pa kako mislis da ti prezivi hellblaster?
Pa ne mora svaki imperijalac da koristi hellblaster...
POSTOJE I DOBRI LJUDI :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Svaki imperijalac koji drzi do sebe, povede bar jedan hellblaster na tablu . . . nikad se ne zna, mozda naidje nesto sto mozes da "opalis" . . . :lol:
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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TheMarko wrote:Svaki imperijalac koji drzi do sebe, povede bar jedan hellblaster na tablu . . . nikad se ne zna, mozda naidje nesto sto mozes da "opalis" . . . :lol:

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Ovo je tacno... ja sam svojevremeno izvodio 2 (jer smatram da su korisniji od bilo koje druge imperijalne rare kombinacije ;) )
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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@Dzon Vejn - :applause:
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
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... I ondak dodju svi Dark Elfovi i pojedu imperijalce :twisted:
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@Zeleni - Oces reci pojedu djulad i tanad iz pusaka i artiljerije . . .
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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...a ne, gresis Marko. Elfovi sa svojim ogromnim tafnesom i jos boljim armor sejvoj su imuni na pucanje. :lol:
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A ne Zeleni, top je no armor save snage 10 (d6 rana), a puske armor piercing -2 armor save snage 4 . . . bar 20 pucaca . . . (da ne pominjem 2 topa) i hellblaster koji tuce 3-15/6-30 snage 4/5 (mozda 5/6) armor save -2/-3 (nek me neko ispravi za hellblaster ako gresim, posto nemam dokumentaciju kod sebe)
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
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Zeleni se salio ;)...... Koliko su dobri protiv imperije, mogu samo da dam primer iz zadnje partije kada sam igrao sa ozbiljnom imperijom protiv njih (moja verzija gunline-a): nisu stigli da predju polovinu table ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pao sam na foru #-o


tako mi i treba . . .
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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Da li uz tenk automatski ide i inžinjer sa repeater pistol-om i kako se računa njegova reakcija kada neko juriša na tenk?
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Automatski - da . . . stand and shoot . . . da . . . lepota jedna . . .


Inace kada nema sta drugo da radi . . . moze u shooting fazi da iskoci i opali triput po necemu sto je na 8" od tenka ali samo ako nista drugo ne radi (npr ako nije u CC-u)
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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Misliš ono 3XST4 -2AS
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Tako nekako, samo imaj na umu da se tu skida -1 zato sto je repeater pistol i trebalo bi jos -1 zato sto jurisaju na njega
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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Kod repeater pistol-a ti ne radiš stand and shoot već pucaš u close combat-u kao prvi tj. pre nego što ti neko i priđe tako da nema penala za juriš, to je pravilo za pistoliere pa ne znam da li radi i za tenk.
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Mislim da ne . . . Jer on i ne izlazi kada je tank u CC-u . . . A deklarise se kao akcija "Stand&Shoot" tako da mislim da vazi pravilo -1 . . . A sada predajemo rec nekome ko zna vise o pravilima stanka od nas . . . kao npr . . . bojanu . . .
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
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Apsolutno
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Inzenjer ne moze da puca samo kad je tenk u CC. Tenk, ako ima cime, moze da puca i tada.

Sto se tice pucanja repeater pistoljem, -1 to hit se podrazumeva zbog vise od jednog pucanja.

Kada se deklarise juris, tenk ne moze da bezi te moze da deklarise "Stand and Shoot", ili "Hold". U slucaju da deklarise S&S, dodatnih -1 to hit za pucanje na chargere se racuna.

Kada CC pocne, inzenjer se zavuce u tenak i nada se da ce tenak da izdrzi i izgazi neprijatelja. Pri tome moze da proba da opali oruzjem koje se nalazi na tenku (top i slicno).
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Kao sto rekoh . . .
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ali uopste nije poenta u tome... poenta je da ti:
1. Nemas veru u Sigmara, i zato ti Hellblaster ne radi protiv goblina, kostura, itd.
2. Verujes u tamo neke tenkove, i ostale alternativne metodologije imperijalne borbe, dok je u stvarnosti Hellblaster osnova svega :D - dakle topovi, mortari, handugnneri, tenkovi - to sve dodje i prodje; jedino je Hellblaster siguran posao ;).
*Zbog promene sistema koji igram, ovo treba citati kao "combined late US veteran artillery barage of 12 or more barrels with first roll to range in success"
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Imaš karaktera na konju u jedinici pešadije. Tvoja pešadija razbije neprijateljsku jedinicu i ona beži. Može li da je juri samo karakter, tj važi li pravilo da karakter može uvek da napusti jedinicu sa kojom je.
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Ne.
"Once close combat has begun, a character will not be able to leave a unit he has joined until all the fighting is over and any compulsory movement, such as fleeing and pursuit, has been resolved."
BRB, p.96
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Kada pucas sa repeat oruzjem, -1 ti se podrazumeva samo ako pucas vise od jednog puta. Tada se podrazumeva za svaki hitac. Ako pucas samo jednom onda imas samo standardne modifajere na pucanje. Mislim da u s&s imas isto opciju da li ces da opalis samo jednom ili koliko mozes, isto ko i obicno. U prvoj rundi combata pucas samo jednom. posle ga koristis ko hand weapon. Nisam siguran dali se smatra za of hand ili ide kao glavno oruzje :(
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shilja wrote:Kada pucas sa repeat oruzjem, -1 ti se podrazumeva samo ako pucas vise od jednog puta. Tada se podrazumeva za svaki hitac. Ako pucas samo jednom onda imas samo standardne modifajere na pucanje. Mislim da u s&s imas isto opciju da li ces da opalis samo jednom ili koliko mozes, isto ko i obicno. U prvoj rundi combata pucas samo jednom. posle ga koristis ko hand weapon. Nisam siguran dali se smatra za of hand ili ide kao glavno oruzje :(
Ne postoji of hand u warhammeru. On se tretira kao dodatno oruzje. U prvoj rundi CC ima pravo da puca (S4 Armor piercing), posle samo kao jos jedan napad (Snaga korisnika, WS takodje!).

Drugom rukom koristi obicno ili magicno (jednorucno) oruzje.
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kgkid wrote:...Drugom rukom koristi obicno ili magicno (jednorucno) oruzje.
Ne mozes kombinovati magicno oruzje nisacim u HtH...
Mislim, da li zaista zelis da vidis Haos lorda sa 9 napada? snage 7? :)
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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Kako tunelaši polažu teror test, da li se važi mesto gde izlaze ili mesto gde su skaterovali?
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.

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Tamo gde zaista izadju.
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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