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Koristim AB2 za WH. I ne prijavljuje mi gresku, pa mi se ucinilo malo cudnim mogucnost da imam 6 ancient stegadona u armiji ;).

Na kraju, jer greska u AB3, AB2, ili u cemu? Koliko ja vidim knjigu lizardmena, moze?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Nema greške, Lizardmene sad zovu Jura park armija.
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Koristim AB2 za WH. I ne prijavljuje mi gresku, pa mi se ucinilo malo cudnim mogucnost da imam 6 ancient stegadona u armiji ;).

Na kraju, jer greska u AB3, AB2, ili u cemu? Koliko ja vidim knjigu lizardmena, moze?
Greska je u AB3 da ti zauzimaju, inace kao stokaze No1 ne zauzimaju.
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Jel moze jedinica da odluci da ne udara u CC?

Ako recimo 3 jedinice urade u jednu siroku, i ubiju dovoljno modela, da ostane samo jedna u b2b (ona centralna jeli, obzirom da se podjednako sklanjaju modeli), dal se ove dve racunaju kao da su i dalje u borbi, ili mogu da overrunuju? Kontam da ako jedinica zagine skroz da je to gotovo, al ako ostane par modela?
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UVEK moras da udaras u cc-u.

Ako jedinica nije u kontaktu sa drugom na kraju cc faze ne racuna se kao da je u cc-u ali ne moze da overanuje ako jedinica nije brejkovana ili zbrisana.
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U do jaja, znaci mora jedinica skroz da pukne da bi ovi overanovali :)
E pa to otvara mogucnosti za nove besmislene taktike ;)
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Monstrous infantry jedinica u combatu, 6 njih, 2 reda po 3. Koliko stomp napada prave, 3 ili 6? (pod uslovom, naravno, da biju u front, i da svi prezive na kraju, posto je stomp always strike last.)
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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PeraNekron wrote:Monstrous infantry jedinica u combatu, 6 njih, 2 reda po 3. Koliko stomp napada prave, 3 ili 6? (pod uslovom, naravno, da biju u front, i da svi prezive na kraju, posto je stomp always strike last.)
6. Stompove rade svi koji se biju.
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Zanimljivo. U knjizi pravila pise da stomp rade samo oni u base-to-base kontaktu. Ali dobro, valjda je faq-ovano negde, a ja to nisam video. :)
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Stomp radi samo na modele/jedinice u kontaktu.

Drugi red dobija samo Support napade, ali ti nisu Stomp!

Provereno, p. 76 u knjizi, i pretrcano kroz ceo FAQ.

Ukoliko gresim, molim referencu... ;)
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Ne gresis, stomp radi samo u base-to-base kontaktu ;)
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Da, ipak su 3 stompa....jos uvek sprovodimo opite za 8. ediciju, pa smo danas naisli na zanimljivu situaciju.
Blood forest, odnosno zla suma sto jede i seta po tabli ; dobili smo da gricka i da se pomera. Jel ona moze da ode sa table? Jeste malo blesavo da parce terena "odseta" sa stola, ali dobili smo pravac strelice i jedno 8 inca ka najblizoj ivici stola. :lol:
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Ljudi kako radi 6. magija kod vampira?

Ima fora da se podigne brdo zombija, ili ona druga varijanta koju bas ne kontam...

Jel to 3D6 modela koje rasporedim kako hocu u jedinice, ili u jednu jedinicu, ili kako vec...
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Druga varijanta je 3d6 modela, koje rasporedis kako god hoces, s tim sto vampiri, ethereali i konjica mogu dobiti samo jednu ranu.
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Tako nekako. Rasporedis 3d6 rana jedinicama...

Samo ne smes nicemu sto nije pesadija, a jeste vampir ili ethereal da das vise od jedne rane.
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i ono sto je kul je sto mozes da koristis Lord of the dead.
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Nesto me buni... U erati za O&G pise da je doom diver "stone trower" da li to znaci da on udara sa pitom (kao stone trower) ili i dalje koristi svoja specijalna pravila-d6 st5 No AS, ali puca kao ST?
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Mislim da je stone thrower za potrebe misfirea i dometa (12''-60''), posto postoji univerzalna tablica u knjizi pravila. Sve ostalo radi kako pise u armybooku : d6 hitova snage 5, no armour save, sto ga cini jako zajebanim u sustini...mada bio bi mnogo bolji da je mala pita snage 5 no armour save, ail mnogo bi ti... :D
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Eye of the Gods tabela result 6 : increase armour save by +1, to a maximum of 0+.
Jel ovo znaci da miljenik moze jedini u igri da dobije 0+ save, ili ne moze da ode ispod 1+, kao sto pise u osnovnoj knjizi pravila?
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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PeraNekron wrote:Eye of the Gods tabela result 6 : increase armour save by +1, to a maximum of 0+.
Jel ovo znaci da miljenik moze jedini u igri da dobije 0+ save, ili ne moze da ode ispod 1+, kao sto pise u osnovnoj knjizi pravila?
Ja bih rekao da ne mre ispod 1+, ali se moze raspravljati i suprotno.
A ako ne moze evo pitanja - koristis EoG na haos konjici i dobijes 6 - sta sada? Da li rerolujes rezultat ili ona dobije 0+ save ili je roll protracen?
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U osnovnoj knjizi pravila, negde pri pocetku, pise da su sva pravila iz pojedinacnih knjiga "jaca" od osnovne knjige pravila. To bi znacilo da "normalnim" putem ne mozes da dodjes na bolje od 1+ (primera radi kombinovanje, konja, bardinga, i cega vec, sa magicnim oklopima, helmovima, itd.), ali da ako ti negde bas pise da mozes na 0 (kao u ovom slucaju) - onda to moze.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Army books su jace od core rulebooka. Ako armijska knjiga kaze da dobijas 0+ save, onda bi trebalo da dobijas 0+ save, zar ne?
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"Note that a model can never hava a save (of any kind) batter than 1+ for any raeson, and that, even than the roll of 1 is always a failure." strana 43. Tako da ne, ne moze da ima save bolji od 1+.
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Snotling wrote:"Note that a model can never hava a save (of any kind) batter than 1+ for any raeson, and that, even than the roll of 1 is always a failure." strana 43. Tako da ne, ne moze da ima save bolji od 1+.
Osim sto nisi u pravu...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Mislim da u ovom slučaju armybook poništava pravilo iz osnovne knjige. Ali naravno čak i konjica sa 0+ sejvom će pasti sejv ako rola keca, to nije sporno.
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Da li to znači da u imperiji pop dodaje jednu a papa dve dispel kockice.
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Evo iz erate:
Change the third paragraph to “Note that a save of any kind
can never be better than 1+. This does not prevent a model
having items or special rules that would take the save even
lower, it simply caps the saving throw at 1+. Also, remember
that a roll of 1 is always a failure.”
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pise u armijskoj knjizi da moze da bude 0+, znaci moze da bude, jer u rulebooku pise da ako nekad postoji direktan sukob izmedju pravila iz rulebooka i army booka treba da se koristi pravilo iz army booka, koliko ja znam.
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Errata ispravlja sve knjige, i osnovnu i armijske i vazi ono sto ona kaze, a ona kaze ono iz mog prethodnog posta - ne moze bolje od 1+.
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Rečenica koju si naveo iz errate se odnosi na pasus u glavnoj knjizi, zar ne...?
Onda ona ispravlja tekst u glavnoj knjizi, a ne u armijskoj knjizi.
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Ispravlja se rulebook, a u armijskoj pise da moze da se ima 0+ a armijska knjiga prepravlja pravila iz rulebooka koliko ja znam?

edit: sva sreca pa citam postove pre nego sto odgovaram i nisam napisao isto sto i covek iznad mene :mrgreen:
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U errati piše da Kragi riroluje Torekovo lupanje po anvilu jednom po partiji u armijskoj knjizi kaže svaki put, koje bi vi tumačenje koristili.

Errata ti upravo kaže da iako u armijskim knjgama postoje predmeti koji ti mogu dati sejv bolji od jedan ,oni se i dalje mogu koristiti ali se računa da model ima oklop na maksimalno na 1+, tj ispravlja sve armijske knjige.
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Ne shvatas - postoji erata army booka i erata main rulebooka. I svaka menja svoju knjigu. To sto je neko pravilo iz main rulebooka promenjeno, to ne menja cinjenicu da su armijske knjige jace od osnovne knjige. Sa druge strane, to sto ti je u armijskoj knjizi promenjeno eratom - jebiga, promenjeno je ;).

Ja cak ni ne vidim sta je ovde sporno...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Raspravu mozete nastaviti u temi za 8. ediciju. Ova je odradila...
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