Pred kraj leta izlazi set, fokusiran na Sabbat. Najavljuju 100 novih karata, reprinte starih bitnih karata od kojih ce neke dobiti nove ilustracije i cetri startera: !Tremere, !Brujah, !Malkavian i Tzimisce (nemam pojma zasto ne Lasombra)
Ko zeli ozbiljno da igra VtES, savetujem stekanje para za kupovinu ovoga. Camarilla edicija je out of print i nece se skoro (ako ikada) reprintovati, tako da ce ovo biti glavni izvor core karata koje svakom deck-u trebaju.
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy?
Kako bre camarila out of print? A sta bi sa informacijama da ce i camarila karte biti reprintovane krajem leta?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Taj 'reprint' je upravo Third Edition. Cuo sam da neki jos uvek tvrde da ce Camarilla reprinta biti, ali sam veoma skeptican prema takvim tvrdnjama jer bih nekako radije verovato White Wolf zvanicnicima i VEKN glavesinama.
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy?
1. Lots of new artwork for old favorites: Torn Signpost, Taste of Vitae, Kine Resources Contested, among others.
2. The "draftferior" powers range from "this card does something new" to "use the basic power with an alternate discipline" or "the usual effect, but less effective." Force of Will, for example, is an aus action that untaps a vampire. Changeling allows for +1 bleed with ani. Meld With The Land is the effect of the Dodge card. And so on.
3. Starter deck fun: Aranthebes and Creepshow in the !Brujah. Club Zombie in the Tzi. Golconda in the !Tre.
Apologies if this list has already been posted. Unconfirmed list.
NOTE: All vampires are GROUP 4 uhless otherwse indicated.]
"Keep it Simple"
Reaction, 1 blood.
Reduce a bleed against you by 1 for each point of
stealth the action minion has when this card is played.
"Dogs of War"
Vote, !Brujah.
If this referendum passes, put this card in play.
Any !Bru may enter combat with a ready minion as a (D) action.
You may burn this card to cancel a blood hunt called on a !Bru.
Any vampire may call a vote to burn this card etc.
"Auto-da-fe"
Vote. Requires a Cardinal, Regent or Inquisitor.
Choose a vampire with capacity less than 8. Successful referendum
means that vampire's controller burns X pool or burns that vampire,
where X is the difference between 8 and that vamp's capacity.
"Perpetual Care"
Vote (no requirement)
Successful referendum means each Meth burns 2 pool for
each vampire in torpor he or she controls.
"Fabrizia Contreraz"
!Malk, 4-cap. dem pot. Sabbat Archbishop of Miami.
If your prey controls no ready Camarilla vampires, Fabrizia
gets two fewer votes in each referendum.
"NRA PAC"
Event. Government.
Any minion who successfully performs an equip
action untaps at the end of the turn.
"Wash"
Master. Out of turn. Trifle.
Do not replace until your next untap phase. Cancel a master card
played by your predator or prey as it is paid (no cost is paid).
That Meth gains a master phase action (if the canceled card is an
OOT master, it doesn't count against that Meth's next master phase.)
"Glancing Blow"
Combat.
Do not replace until your next untap phase.
Prevent 1 damage from the opposing minion's strike.
"Sha-Ennu"
Tzi, 11-cap. ANI AUS CHI VIC obf tha. Sabbat Regent.
Vampires with capacity less than 4 cannot block Sha-Ennu. +2 bleed.
"Malgorzata"
!Tre, 10 cap. AUS DOM THA VIC pre. Sabbat priscus.
Malgorzata may remove a vampire in your uncontrolled region from
the game to add 4 blood from the blood bank to another vampire in
your uncontrolled region as a +1 stealth action
"Mosfair"
!Tre, 4 cap. dom tha cel. Sabbat Black Hand.
"On the Que Vive"
Reaction. Only usable by a tapped minion.
This reaction minion can play reaction cards and attempt to block
as though untapped until the current action is concluded. If this
minion is an ally, he or she does not untap is normal during his
or her next untap phase. A minion may only play one OTQV between
his or her untap phases.
"Mirror Walk"
Action modifier. Do not replace until your discard phase.
[tha] plus 1 stealth.
[THA]: as [tha] above, and if this action is blocked, the action ends
(with no combat).
[DRAFT]: [obf] as [tha] above.
"Helicopter"
Equipment, 3 pool. Vehicle.
When a minion equips with the Helicopter, tap it.
After resolving a successful action, this minion may tap
the Helicopter to untap. A minion can only have one vehicle.
"Frontal Assault"
Master.
Put this card in play. Each ready minion you control may enter combat
with any minion controlled by your prey as a (D) action. You gain 1
pool
each time a ready minion controlled by your prey is burned or sent to
torpor.
During your influence phase, burn this card and burn 1 pool for each
ready minion controlled by your prey.
"Cracking the Wall"
Master.
Do not replace until your discard phase. Play Rock-Paper-Scissors with
any other Methuselah. If you tie, you each discard a card at random.
Otherwise, the loser discards his or her hand and draws a new hand.
"Instability"
Master.
Only usable if your prey controls the Edge or the Edge is uncontrolled.
Your prey may take the Edge if it is uncontrolled. You gain 2 pool.
Only one Instability may be played each turn.
"Orlando Oriundus"
!Tre, 9 cap. AUS DOM THA obf. Bishop.
During a referendum, if Orlando is ready, your vampire's votes
are doubled when votes are tallied, and other multipliers may
not be played on your vampires. +1 bleed
"Nickolai, the Survivor"
!Tre, 6 cap. aus, dom, pot, pre, tha, vic.
Nickolai may gain 1 level of any discipline another of your ready
vampires has at superior as a +1 stealth action.
"Dr. Julius Sutphen"
Las, 5 cap. dom, obt, POT. Advanced, Sabbat.
During a D action, Julius may burn 1 blood to get +1 stealth.
(Merge): Archbishop of Atlanta: Julius gets +1 strength
in combat with a Camarilla vampire.
"Keith Moody"
!tre, 3 cap. DOM. Sabbat.
During your untap phase, if your prey ahs the Edge, he or she
may burn it to cause Keith to burn 1 blood.
"Melinda Galbraith"
Las, 10 cap. obt AUS CEL DOM POT PRE. Sabbat Cardinal.
"Melinda Galbraith"
!Tor, 10 cap. obt AUS CEL DOM POT PRE. Advanced. Sabbat bishop.
During your untap phase, Melinda can tap a Sabbat vampire with capacity
less than 7.
(Merge): Sabbat regent. +2 bleed.
"Luc"
!malk, 5 cap. dem, vic, OBF. Sabbat.
Luc gets +1 stealth on diablerie actions.
He may give you +3 hand size until your next untap phase as a +1
stealth action.
"Rico Loco"
!ven, 2 cap. FOR. Sabbat. Black Hand.
If Rico is ready during your master phase, move a Bomb from
your hand or ash heap to him (no cost) or he takes 1 damage.
During your untap phase if Rico is ready and has a Bomb, burn
the Bomb and another ready minion you control takes 2 damage.
"Neighbor John"
!Ventrue, 5 cap. dom for AUS. Sabbat.
+1 intercept.
"Schuyler"
Pander, 1 cap. tha. Sabbat.
When Schuyler is blocked, your prey may move a library card from
his or her ash heap to the top of his or her library.
"Caroline Bishops"
Pander, 3-cap. pot cel for. Sabbat.
Caroline cannot block non-Camarilla vampires.
"Servius Marius Pustula"
!Nos, 10 cap. obf ANI CHI DOM OBT POT. Sabbat.
Each Meth gets +X hand size, where X is the number of ready vampires
with cap above 7 he or she controls.
"Radu Bistri"
Tzi, 8-cap. ani pre vic AUS DOM. Sabbat Cardinal.
During your untap phase, Radu gains 1 blood if the Purchase Pact is in
play.
"Abbot"
+1 stealth action. Requires a sabbat vampire.
Put this card on this acting Sabbat vampire and untap him or her.
This Sabbat vampire gets +1 intercept against (D) actions directed
at his or her controller. A vampire may have only one Abbot.
"Jacques Molay"
!Bru, 9-cap. obf val CEL POT PRE. Sabbat.
Jacques may enter combat with an ally or younger vampire as a (D)
action.
+1 strength.
"Armin Brenner"
!Bru, 10-cap. ani obf CEL FOR POT PRE. Sabbat Archbishop of Washington
DC.
When a referendum Armin calls passes, you gain 1 pool.
"Bela Kardoza"
!Bru, 10-cap. ani dom CEL POT PRE VIC. Sabbat.
During a referendum, Bela may burn X blood to get X additional votes.
"Hektor"
!Bru, 9-cap. for CEL POT PRE QUI. Sabbat Priscus.
Damage from Hektor's hand strikes is aggravated.
Baali get +1 bleed when bleeding you.
"Rodrigo"
!Bru, 5-cap. pot pre qui CEL. Sabbat.
"Harold Zettler, Pentex Director"
!Malk, 9-cap. vic AUS DEM OBF POT. Sabbat.
Giovanni get +1 bleed when bleeding you. +1 stealth.
"Stick"
!Nos, 3-cap. ANI. Sabbat.
"Heart of Nizchetus"
Unique Equipment. 1 pool.
During your untap phase, if the bearer is ready, you may draw
up to three cards from your library and then move the same number
of cards from your hand to the bottom of your library.
"Esoara"
!Tre, 5-cap. aus for pot DOM. Sabbat.
"Frondator"
!Tre, 5cap. dom tha AUS. Sabbat Bishop.
Rescuing a vampire from torpor costs Frondator 1 less blood.
"Rumble"
Action. Requires a Sabbat vampire.
(D) Enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Meth.
In that combat, your hand size is increased by 1. If this acting
vampire is not ready at the end of the action, burn 1 pool.
"Minor Irritation"
Reaction.
Only usable when this vampire successfully blocks an ally or younger
vampire (play before combat, if any). This vampire doesn't tap for
successfully blocking.
"Hexaped"
1 pool. !Tre Ally with 3 life, 1 str, 0 bleed.
Hexaped may give a link counter to any Meth as a +1 stealth (D) action.
Remove Hexaped from the game if that action succeeds. The !Tre who
recruited the Hexaped gets +1 bleed and +1 stealth when bleeding the
Methuselah with that link counter.
"Grooming the Protege"
Master.
Move up to 3 blood from a ready vampire you control to a younger
vampire
of the same clan in your uncontrolled region.
"Yawp Court"
Master: unique location. Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
Tap when a political action is successful, before the referendum, to
have
a ready untapped Sabbat vampire you control tap and enter combat with
the
acting vampire. If the acting vampire is still ready at the end of
combat,
the Sabbat vampire takes 2 damage and the referendum is conducted as
normal.
"Martinelli's Ring"
Unique equipment.
Cards that require Malk, !Malk, Dem or Ser cannot be placed on this
minion.
Burn any cards on the minion that require any of those clans or
disciplines.
"Gurchon Hall"
3 pool. Master: unique Location. Requires a ready cardinal. Hunting
ground.
During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from the blood bank to
each of the two
ready oldest vampires you control. A vamp can only gain 1/hunting
ground per turn.
"Ermenegildo, The Rake"
Las, 5-cap. pot DOM OBT. Sabbat Black Hand.
"Lord Vauxhall"
Las, 7-cap. DOM OBT POT THA. Sabbat.
"Ysador the Foul"
!Nos, 10-cap. obt ANI DEM FOR OBF POT. Sabbat Cardinal.
Non-infernal, non-demon minions opposing Ysador in combat
cannot use maneuvers to maneuver to close range.
"Isouda de Blaise"
!Tor, 7-cap. aus CEL OBF PRE. Sabbat.
You may burn the edge during your discard phase to untap Isouda.
"Mugur Sabau"
!Gan, 9-cap. vic CEL NEC OBF PRO. Sabbat Archbishop of Pittsburgh.
Each time Mugur commits diablerie, he gets an additional +1 bleed
Moram da nabavim ovaj set! AAAA!
Fantasticne karte.
Nejvise potencijala vidim u "Keep it Simple" (prva je na listi)
Nema vise blid za 6 sa 5 stealtha a sto je najbolje ne zahteva disciplinu :D
"Grooming the Protege"
Master.
Move up to 3 blood from a ready vampire you control to a younger
vampire
of the same clan in your uncontrolled region.
Dusu dalo za dekove koji se baziraju na jednom vampiru i pomagacima.
"Heart of Nizchetus"
Unique Equipment. 1 pool.
During your untap phase, if the bearer is ready, you may draw
up to three cards from your library and then move the same number
of cards from your hand to the bottom of your library.
Nabolji equipment ikad. Vrtis karte dok ne nadjes sta ti treba. U kombinacija sa Blackhorse Tannerom i Dremas of the Spinx bukvalno zamenis ceo hand bez ikakvih posledica.
Crypt Clan
Aaron Bathurst; Nosferatu antitribu
Aksinya Daclau' Gangrel antitribu
Alessandro Garcia; Brujah antitribu
Andrew Emory; Lasombra
Antonio d'Erlette; Tremere antitribu
Antón de Concepción; Lasombra
Apache Jones; Malkavian antitribu
Armin Brenner; Brujah antitribu
Axel Von Anders; Brujah antitribu
Beauregard Krueller; Malkavian antitribu
Bela Kardoza; Brujah antitribu
Bill Butler; Gangrel antitribu
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Bold su nove karte a ostalo su reprinti i to dosta ih je iz Sabbat i Camarilla edicije... sad ih je lakse nabaviti nego prvobitni plan pravljnja vremaplova :D
Nastavak, naravno sledi. Mislim da updateuju svaki dan.
Library - Rarity Abandoning the Flesh R Abbot U
Ablative Skin R
Acrobatics C
Admonitions, The U
Aid from Bats C
Anarch Revolt U
Anarchist Uprising C
Apportation C
Archon Investigation U
Art Scam R
Art of Love, The U
Art of Pain, The R
Assault Rifle U Auto-da-fé U
Awe R
Backstab U
Bang Nakh -- Tiger's Claws C
Banshee Ironwail R
Bauble R Black Forest Base R
Black Gloves R
Black Metamorphosis R
Black Spiral Buddy U Blade of Enoch R
Blood of the Sabbat R
Bloodbath R
Blow Torch C
Blur C
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Bomb U
Boxed In C
Brass Knuckles C
Burning Wrath U
Burst of Sunlight U
Cardinal Benediction U
Cardinal Sin: Insubordination U
Carrion Crows C
Catatonic Fear U
Changeling C Cheval de Bataille U
Chiropteran Marauder C
Claws of the Dead C Codex of the Damned R
Coma U
Combat Shotgun C
Command of the Beast U
Command U
Communal Haven: Cathedral U
Confusion C
Consanguineous Boon C
Conservative Agitation C Corrupt Construction C
Courier U Cracking the Wall R2
Creation Rites U - - - - - Koncano!
Cryptic Rider U
Cull the Herd
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Sta radi draft? Samo menja disciplinu koja moze da koristi kartu, ili mora i nesto da se plati/doplati?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Draft format znam sta je, mada ne verujem da cemo mi to ikada igrati (nedovoljan broj ucesnika za tako nesto, a fali nam i ono osnovno - pREDSTAVNIK za nasu zemlju, tj radnja... )
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
9-cap Sabbat Archbishop of Chicago. Anton gets an optional maneuver on the first round of combat aus ANI DOM OBT POT
Axel Von Anders,
5-cap Sabbat cel obf pot PRE
Blade of Enoch,
Unique melee weapon. One pool cost. Strength +1 damage each strike, only usable by a vampire with capacity above 5. Damage inflicted by this weapon a Brujah or Brujah antitribu is aggravated. This vampire with capacity above 5 is immune to the effects of Frenzy cards.
Corrupt Construction
Vicissitude. One pool cost. Ghoul with 1 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. regular
When the construction enters play, you may remove from the game any number of ally, retainer, or vampire cards from your ash heap or hand. The Construction gains one life for each card removed in that way. The
Construction gets +1 strength for each life counter it has. During your
untap phase, the Construction burns 1 life.
superior As above, and the Construction has an additional life.
Jos "spojlera"
Harvest Rites
Action
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action. Requires a Sabbat vampire
Put this card on this acting Sabbat vampire. Once each turn when the
vampire with this card successfully hunts, he or she gains 1 additional
blood. A vampire can only have one Harvest Rites.
Old Neddacka
Nos Anti
Capacity: 2
Sabbat
obf
Blister
Nos Anti
Capacity: 3
Sabbat
obf pot
Titus Camille
Ven Anti
Capacity: 8
Sabbat: Titus can steal equipment from a minion controlled by your
predator or prey as a D action. +1 strength.
for AUS DOM OBF
Stil crtanja je manje realistican i manje istice cleavage, ali to ne znaci da je ona ruznija. Plus, tako je savrseno egocentricna i ubedjena da svi postoje samo zarad nje da je to prosto fenomenalno. Kao sto rekoh, don't mess with the Pretty Ones :P
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy?
Malo skupo ali mnogo korisno. konacno untap i za one koji nemaju fortitude ili rutor's hand.
I onda to lepo stavite na ovu ribu:
Hesha Ruhadze
Clan: Follower of Set (group 2)
Capacity: 6
Disciplines: SER ani obf pre
Independent: When hunting, Hesha gets an additional +1 stealth and gains an additional blood if successful.
I stavite joj 6 blood dollova i Aaron's feeding razor i bloat za 6 u svakom krugu:)
Resurrection wrote:I onda to lepo stavite na ovu ribu:
Hesha Ruhadze
Clan: Follower of Set (group 2)
Capacity: 6
Disciplines: SER ani obf pre
Independent: When hunting, Hesha gets an additional +1 stealth and gains an additional blood if successful.
Hesha je musko
EDIT: A i ne moze da ponovi dva puta istu akciju (jelte hunt) :P
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy?
-bleed twice in a turn
-take a political action twice in a turn
-use the same action card twice in a turn
-take the action allowed by a card in play twice in a turn
by the new rules, with no restrictions on, for example, hunting or equipping
(assuming the minion can untap, of course). The last item (card in play) includes
any special ability the minion may have.
As equipment cards (and retainers, and allies) all count as action cards, you may
take multiple equip minion actions with the same minion on any given turn,
but they cannot be the same piece of equipment.
You can: Equip with a Sport Bike, Untap, Equip with a .44 Magnum.
You cannot: Equip with a .44 Magnum, Untap, Equip with a second .44 Magnum.
Super za stavljanje u deck koji se oslanja na neku specificnu kartu. U toj situaciji mozes da racunas da tebi koristi mnogo vise nego drugim igracima na stolu.
Na primer, u Toreador power vote deck stavim i mogu da izvucem Toreador Grand Ball ako mi bas fali. A izbacivanje vampira iz igre je prilicno visoka cena.
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy?
Nije visoka cena ako igras star vampire deck ili ti kad ima 5 kopija jednog vampira da bi bio siguran da ce izaci taman se otarasis duplikata iz uncontroled.
Ti mozes da trazis Toreadors Grand Ball a tvoj predator i prej Sudden reversal:)
Problem je u tome sto dajes tu mogucnos kopanja po librariju i 2 ljudi koji te mrze:)
Nekadasnji sam igrac magica. Zainteresovao me je Vtes.
Juche sam kupio starter Malkavian antitribu, pa me interesuje ima li svrhe igrati sa njim bez upgrade-a ili ce sa mnom svi brisati patos kao sa svim starter deckovima u tcg igrama. Shta preporucujete pocetnicima da kupuju iz novog seta i na koje strategije da se orijentishu. Koliko sam shvatio ovde nema formata tipa block, standard, extended i slichno, vec se moze igrati sa svim kartama do sada?? Ima li u tom klubu the guild trenutno bustera, blood countera i kako se krecu cene? Hvala!
Guild ne radi od letos, tako da je nabavka karata malo otezana. Starter deckovi su relativno solidni za igru, ali najbolje prodjes ako kupis dva ista startera ili dva slicna startera pa iskombinujes karte iz dva u jedan deck. Sve karte iz svih edicija su validne, i taktika je drasticno razlicita u odnosu na magic. Prvenstvneo jer treba da brines na ostale igracE (standardno se igra u cetvoro) a ne samo na jednog.
Informisacemo te preko foruma kada cemo igrati sledeci put tokom ove nedelje i u kom od beogradskih klubova, pa dodji na druzenje.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
U stvari, da. Generalno, svi ce tobom brisati patos. Sto nije razlog da se ne igras, jer vtes nije igra sa jednim protivnikom, a cesto od pojedinaca zavisi kako ce se ostatak igre odvijati.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss. Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Shade wrote:Nekadasnji sam igrac magica. Zainteresovao me je Vtes.
Juche sam kupio starter Malkavian antitribu, pa me interesuje ima li svrhe igrati sa njim bez upgrade-a ili ce sa mnom svi brisati patos kao sa svim starter deckovima u tcg igrama. Shta preporucujete pocetnicima da kupuju iz novog seta i na koje strategije da se orijentishu. Koliko sam shvatio ovde nema formata tipa block, standard, extended i slichno, vec se moze igrati sa svim kartama do sada?? Ima li u tom klubu the guild trenutno bustera, blood countera i kako se krecu cene? Hvala!
Odabrao si odlican dek za pocetak jer ima savrseno jednostavan koncept i izvedbu. Razlog sto ce svi obrisati patos tobom je sto vecina nas igra VtES bar godinu i po i sto svi maje-vise preziru stealth&bleed koncept koji Malkaviani forsiraju i to stvaro najbolje rade (podobno ce ti biti objasnjeno sta to znaci :D)
Ne postoje formati i sve karte ikad ostampane su dozvoljene. Naravno na nekima je updateovan tekst ali tesko da ces ih nabaviti tako da nema potrebe da te opterecujem s tim.
Karte koje su najbitnije su ceto obicni commoni i kroz edicije i neki reareovi se menjaju u uncommone i tako postaju sire dostupni. Odavde zakljucujes da karte na komad nemaju visoku cenu jer ih nije tesko nabaviti.
Trenutno ganjamo distirbutera a cene su ti 10 dolara starter i 2,5 dolara buster. Dolar je 0.7 eura pa preracunaj. Krajnje jeftino.
Za blood countere mozes da koristis bilo sta cega imas 40 komada.
Naravno ako nameravas da koristis kriske hleba niko nece moci da procita sta ti pise na karti :D Imam ja par kesica crvenih countera sa znakom camarille ili sabbata (mesano) i dacu ti kesicu za 50 din jer si novi igrac. Dobices i neke promoe.
Daj mi mejl da te stavim na mejling listu i da ti dam par linkova da se upoznas s i grom.
Znas li ikoga od trenutnih igraca da im naredim da ti pokazu kako se igra?:D
:badger: :badger: :badger:
