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Minion Tap je ponovo igriv kazes...
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zanimljivo. kada promenite klan Clan Impersonationom, vampiru se menja i sekta, i to u onu koja je default tog klana. Ako je na pocetku bio van default sekte svog prvobitnog klana, po spaljivanju vraca se u default sektu svog prvobitnog klana.

cudno... ali rulovano.
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Krle, bio si u pravu, imas pivo :-D \:D/

You must fully declare a card to play it.
You must play it before you replace it.

This is true for all cards. (This is also true for political actions, where the declaration is the calling the vote with the potential terms. Terms are only declared when the action succeeds.)

So, when playing TGB, you specify exactly which Toreador will fit each role before you replace it.
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Ne valja se raspravljati sa pripitim ljudima... :wink:
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Hej, ja uvek rado platim pivo kad pogresim :-D
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No comment...ne treba pivo hvala :-({|=

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Hej, pivo je pivo, sta si ti neki AA da odbijas pivo :-D :wink:
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Nego sta to sam ja Anson/Ashur 8-)
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ne, ne decko ti si D/K...
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Sto se tice Psajka i Rotsreka postoji tema na VEKNu o novom tekstu. Nista se ne menja.
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Pa to smo znali zar ne?
Mada su neki pokusali da ciganisu oko novog teksta x)
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ne bih voleo da ubuduce dolazi do nesporazuma ovog tipa...

http://www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/6-r ... -equipment
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Megabaja wrote:ne bih voleo da ubuduce dolazi do nesporazuma ovog tipa...

http://www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/6-r ... -equipment
Pa normalno... a kad to nije bilo jasno?
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setih se skoro ovoga :

the press to continue combat provided by Talbot's Chainsaw (in the first round) is a mandatory press. The cardtext omits "optional" as seen on most combat cards relating to maneuvers or presses, making the Talbot's Chainsaw's press a must.
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mada, sudeci po njihovom rulingu ti biras kad igras pres, i ako prvo odigras pres iz ruke, onda se kombat zavrsi... ili ja ne kapiram bas dijaloge na rec.trad....
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ne razumem sta mislis.

Pres testere moras da koristis jer nije u pitanju OPTIONAL pres, vec samo pres. isto kao sto laurie dunsirn mora da presuje, i mora da adtitional stajkuje jer nisu optional
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baci mi link ka ovom rulingu pa cu ti objasniti sta mislim. ja ne mogu da ga nadjem.
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o_O

Jos jedno pivo za mene, ali ne na nacin na koji sam ocekivao

Naime PRE rezolvovanja demidza od outside the hourglass, oposing minion moze da odigra ANY NUMBER of pre-range cards, cak i ako nisu preventi, jer se taj demidz desi tek kad oba kombatanta zavrse sa svojim pre-rangeom???

Anyway, thems the rulings :

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 879e?hl=en

http://www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/6-r ... hreck#9048
Klaital wrote:
Actually I don't think you would even have chance to play the carrion crows if you go to torpor from the OtHG since acting minion has priority to play stuff first.
This other link from LSJ should answer all your Outside the Hourglass questions.
He confirms
> - You can play horrid form (and similar cards) before preventing/
> healing damage from an OtH already played

> - You can play any (number) "only useable before range is determined"
> cards before preventing/healing damage from an OtH already played.

> - You can play Skin of Night at inferior to change the nature of the
> damage from an OtH already played if that damage is aggravated before
> preventing/healing that damage.

So you can quite happily cycle your Carrion Crows, Terror Frenzy and Drawing out the Beast in the hope of getting to the Horrid Forms you need to prevent the damage.

I had thought differently as well, but that's the official ruling.
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Horrid Form
Type: Combat
Requires: Vicissitude
Cost: 1 blood
Only usable before range is chosen.
[vic] This vampire gets +1 strength for the remainder of combat.
[VIC] As above, and this vampire may prevent 1 damage each round for the remainder of combat.
problem nije bio u tome da li moze da odigra kartu vec da li karta moze da preventuje damage koji je minionu vec nanet...

pivo cu naplatiti u subotu.
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^^^
cudan ruling cudnosti

Da moze...
Jer nijedna damage se ne desi sada odmah sada, vec u heal damage/prevent fazi u normal strajkovima, ili na kraju pre-range faze u slucaju da je damage nanesen pre range (weather control, outside the hourglass)
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koji ruling? u ovom rulingu se govori o mogucnosti da se odigraju karte, ne i mogucnosti da se preventuje vec naneta steta...
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Nego, jel se igramo danas?
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ovaj ruling je promenjen u odnosu na prvu verziju, sto je stvorilo dodatnu zabunu kod mene

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 5aa32eb639

LSJ je ranije odgovorio da se prvo preventuje steta od OtH pa onda moze da se igra ostalo, ali je reversovao ruling...

ako mene pitate neke stvari su skroz nelogicne al ajde...
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Groundfighting canceluje sve vase prljave drawing out the beastove i terror frenzije :

Groundfighting:
# Can cancel Drawing Out the Beast (or other "target cannot use equipment" card)
if the target has a weapon. [LSJ 20050221]
# Can cancel superior Thoughts Betrayed and Shape Mastery (when the latter is
used to cancel a strike) [LSJ 20050222] [LSJ 20050223]
# Cannot cancel maneuvering, setting range, burning blood, Scorpion Sting (or
other "cannot be dodged" strikes, since the opposing minion is still free to
attempt to dodge), Weakness, destroy/steal equipment/weapon effects, Withering,
Fata Amria, [LSJ 20050221] [LSJ 20050221] [LSJ 20050223] [LSJ 20050223]
# Cannot cancel restricting the ability to strike and/or gain additional strikes
(e.g., Rigor Mortis, Lapse) [LSJ 20050221] [LSJ 20050222] [LSJ 20050223]


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