[VtES] Ovladavanje pravilima...

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zanima me da li moze rotschreck da se odigra na Gotsdam-a? U sinocnoj partiji je doslo do toga, i presudili smo da moze, ali za svaki slucaj bih hteo da mi neko potvrdi da li smo pravilno odigrali.Mislim da jesmo jer na karti kaze da se aktivira pri pokusaju nanosenja agg damage-a ali ne pise da to nanosenje treba da bude uspesno.
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Filipenda wrote:zanima me da li moze rotschreck da se odigra na Gotsdam-a? U sinocnoj partiji je doslo do toga, i presudili smo da moze, ali za svaki slucaj bih hteo da mi neko potvrdi da li smo pravilno odigrali.Mislim da jesmo jer na karti kaze da se aktivira pri pokusaju nanosenja agg damage-a ali ne pise da to nanosenje treba da bude uspesno.
Ako je vampir imun na agg onda Rotschreck moze da se odigra jer, kao sto si rekao, dmg se i ne nanosi vec je bino da je u pitanju validan pokusaj nannosenja agg dmg.

Vasa situacija je malo drugacija - boldovao sam relevantan tekst na Gotsdamu u Rotschrecku pa ces i sam videti sta ste pogresno odigrali:

Gotsdam, The Tired Warrior
Clan: Ventrue (group 4)
Capacity: 9
Disciplines: AUS DOM FOR PRE ani
Camarilla: Gotsdam may end combat as a strike that costs 1 blood. He treats aggravated damage as normal damage in combat. He is immune to frenzy cards.

Rotschreck
Type: Master
Master: out-of-turn. Frenzy.
Put this card on a vampire when an opposing minion attempts to inflict aggravated damage on him or her, whether the damage would be successfully inflicted or not. Combat ends. This vampire is tapped and sent to torpor. This vampire does not untap as normal. During this vampire's next untap phase, burn this card.


Dakle: Rotschreck ne moze da se odigra na Gotsdama jer je on imun na te karte a ne zato sto "ignorise" agg dmg.
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bas smo zeznuli tu partiju :D drugar nije bacio jednom Rotsc na Gotsdam-a vec dva puta,u svakom slucaju hvala na ukazanoj gresci i na brzom odgovoru.
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Filipenda wrote:bas smo zeznuli tu partiju :D drugar nije bacio jednom Rotsc na Gotsdam-a vec dva puta,u svakom slucaju hvala na ukazanoj gresci i na brzom odgovoru.

U edicijama pre KMW ne pise na karti da je Frenzy pa ste mozda zato prevideli.
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jos jedno pitanjce, kada neko stavi na svog vampira vessel da li mu on omogucava da sprzi tudji blood doll?? A sto se tice svracanja do kluba, hvala na pozivu ... Kragujevcani ovde
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da. znaci da mozes, ali ne moras, da unistis bilo koji blood doll na tabli.
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Filipenda wrote:jos jedno pitanjce, kada neko stavi na svog vampira vessel da li mu on omogucava da sprzi tudji blood doll?? A sto se tice svracanja do kluba, hvala na pozivu ... Kragujevcani ovde
Vessel
Type: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: trifle.
Put this card on a vampire, and you may burn a Blood Doll in play (if any). During this vampire's controller's untap phase, he or she may move 1 blood from this vampire to his or her pool or from his or her pool to this vampire.

Ne pise you control ili slicno, vec in play sto ce reci da mozes koji god Blood Doll na tabli.

Znam da ste iz Kragujevca ali poziv stoji :)
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Filipenda wrote:kada neko stavi na svog vampira vessel da li mu on omogucava da sprzi tudji blood doll??
omogucava.
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ifke wrote:
Filipenda wrote:kada neko stavi na svog vampira vessel da li mu on omogucava da sprzi tudji blood doll??
omogucava.
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ako je Ivke ovako rekao to mora da je tacno. Mislim ipak je njegova zadnja na tu temu :applause: :applause:
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Naidjosmo na ovo sinoc, zahvaljujuci krletovom Una deku :) :
Ako si na 3 pula, a neko te bliduje za 4+, mozes li uopste da odigras Archon investigation? I ako mozes, sta se zapravo desava (oustovan si naravno, ali da li je investigation ubio vampira...)
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Ako neki vampir pokusa akciju u kojoj tapuje strom sewers, a vampir koji ima sniper rifle blokira tu akciju, da li je range long ili close u kombatu?


Name: Storm Sewers
[Jyhad:U, VTES:U, CE:R2, KoT:R]
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Nosferatu
Master: unique location.
You may tap this card as a minion you control announces an action. If the action is blocked, the range of each round of the resulting combat is automatically close. Skip the determine range step each round.
Artist: Tom Wänerstrand; Brian LeBlanc

Name: Sniper Rifle
[FN:R2, LoB:PO, KoT:U/PT3]
Cardtype: Equipment
Cost: 2 pool
Weapon, gun.
2R damage each strike. Only usable at long range. If the bearer blocks an action, he or she may, before range is determined, set the range for the first round of the resulting combat to long; if he or she does so, skip the determine range step that round, and the bearer's initial strike that round must be with this weapon.
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Knight wrote:Naidjosmo na ovo sinoc, zahvaljujuci krletovom Una deku :) :
Ako si na 3 pula, a neko te bliduje za 4+, mozes li uopste da odigras Archon investigation? I ako mozes, sta se zapravo desava (oustovan si naravno, ali da li je investigation ubio vampira...)
Naravno.
Ako si platio ima i da gori.
Ako neki vampir pokusa akciju u kojoj tapuje Storm sewers, a vampir koji ima Sniper rifle blokira tu akciju, da li je range long ili close u kombatu?
Kao u i uvek prvo se za sve efekte pita acting pa onda reacting metuselah sto ce reci da je range close u gornjoj situaciji.
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A ja mislio da me vi poznajete... pa ne bi se ja mucio textom nego ako postujem samo violine boca mi obrise post... :-({|=
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Ne, nego ga brisme jer jos uvek ne sviras tu violinu dobro :P
A i sto odgovaras na temu od prosle godine? :D
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Znaci ono "ne smes da odigras (kartu/influence-ujes/stagod da ste pricali) tako da sam sebe oustujes" je u stvari laz... 8)

a pod 8) mislim :-({|=
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Jeste.
A jutros sam izasrao narocito veliko govno i od smrada me providjenja udarilo i odlucio sam da promenim pravilo.
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Dodji da ti trsimo te nosferatuje Bocoo :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=
ps: jel ja sviram bolje violinu ?
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Resurrection wrote:Jeste.
A jutros sam izasrao narocito veliko govno i od smrada me providjenja udarilo i odlucio sam da promenim pravilo.
Zvacu ga Goxy.
Od danas imamo i novo pravilo :D zvano Goxy :-({|= :-({|= :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=

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Ne, ali imas bend od 3 iza sebe, pa zvuci lepo kada krenes da pevas :P

Docicu sada u subotu sa nosferatuima i sa bruhama, tremere na spidu su na maloj reviziji :)
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Cek cek cek stani, bre, znaci kad mogu da se pozovem na Goxy? Samo cetvrtkom, ili onda kada je Goxy fizicki (ne?)prisutan?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Jeste.
To nisi ti pricao idiote.

edit: zaboravio sam :-({|=
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GoxY wrote:
Jeste.
To nisi ti pricao idiote.

edit: zaboravio sam :-({|=
Samo 4 meseca ti je trebalo da smislis 5 reci :P bravo :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: Goxy mislim da je ovo neki novi rekord :P zovite ginnisovu knjigu rekorda pred nama je novi rekorder
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Pamti, pa vrati...

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Brijac brije i ljudi i vampire isto izgleda, ja sam iskreno mislio da vampiru sa koga huntuje skida samo jedan blood ali suprotno je dokazano.
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Obrijo mi Lodina za 2 blooda samo tako :lol: .
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dobro ga nije i osisao pa da ostane bez onako lepu plavu kosu :P
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A mogao si samo da me zoves da ih ucutkam :)
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nadao sam se da cu nekoga navuci na opkladu, al nista...
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Ma vi ste neki rules lawyeri a? :-({|=
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Megabaja wrote:nadao sam se da cu nekoga navuci na opkladu, al nista...
hteo ja ali se predomislio Djordje jer sam neredovni platisa tih opklada, stvarno geju od princa reci jednom da ces doci pa da donesem milku da se goste ljudi :)
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Duplo golo za poznavanje pravila :-D

> 1) When player looks at prays hand using Revelations, and then
> discards a card, can he also see which card is drawn to replace it?

No.

i takodje

> 3)Some Rotschreck questions:
> a) When acting vampire plays Majesty and blocking vampire plays agr
> damage and Rotschreck, does acting vampire goes to torpor untapped?

No. Rötschreck ends combat when played, before moving to strike
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Sto ce reci slusajte mene a ne Nikicu za pravila :-({|=
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> 1) When player looks at prays hand using Revelations, and then
> discards a card, can he also see which card is drawn to replace it?

No.
ovo nikada nije odigrano za mojim stolom. sa druge strane imali smo slicnu situaciju za owl companiona kada se vide sve karte koje se riplejsuju u toku kombata.
> 3)Some Rotschreck questions:
> a) When acting vampire plays Majesty and blocking vampire plays agr
> damage and Rotschreck, does acting vampire goes to torpor untapped?

No. Rötschreck ends combat when played, before moving to strike
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Odakle ti ovaj odgovor? Tacnije oba? Daj neki link...

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LSJ odgovorio na discussions boardu. Ne umem da linkujem do tamo... ali probacu od kuce ( glupi komp na faksu ne une da cita board)
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da li ste primetili ko je postavio pitanja na doticnom linku
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prethodno sam rekao da je odgovor pogresan, a mislio sam nekompletan, jer na rotsreku lepo pise "this vampire is tapped", odmah posle combat ends.
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negde sam zaboravio oci ocigledno... tek sam sad primetio da rotschreck i tappuje

mada ovo za majesty je iz drugih razloga tj ne stigne da se resolvuje strike jer rotschreck radi pre strike resolutiona

tako da kako god okrenes ne valja :)
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 8755ca249f#

zanimljiv ruling vezan za villein. Cinilo mi se relevantno jerbo mislim da cemo ih odsada mnogo cesce vidjati ovde :-D
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reci cu samo... e jebi ga. mislim da su preterali, i da na karti lepo pise da ne moze da se igra ...
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