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... and let the funeral bells toll...

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Istina je... nema vise V:tes-a
White wolf je digao ruke, a niku drugi ne zeli da preuzme licencu. Sranje, sranje, sranje, sranje...
A taman nam je krenulo ovde u srbiji...

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Kao sto rekoh korporacijska pohlepa...bolje da je umesto ovoga izumro magic ili yugi ili neko drugo sranje koje zaglupljuje ljude...

Takodje sto se Srbije tice ja ne nameravam da odustanem od vtesa zbog ovoga, a ni da se manje cimam,nadam se da i ostali dele isto misljenje.
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From now or five thousand years from now.
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Poslednja expanzija im je bila rasprodata, nije mi jasno zasto prestaju.
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Well... sta reci? Nije da cemo mi prestati da je igramo, a ova igra je svakako prezivela jedan cetvorogodisnji prekid sa bazom igraca koja nije bila manja.
Doduse tuzno je to sto nema ko da preuzme igru koja je rasprodata... koliko glup mozes biti, pa ne produziti licencu za nesto sto donosi profit bez ikakve reklame i povratkom ulaganja u roku od mesec, dva sa ogromnom zaradom....
Pamti, pa vrati...

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Krle wrote:Kao sto rekoh korporacijska pohlepa...bolje da je umesto ovoga izumro magic ili yugi ili neko drugo sranje koje zaglupljuje ljude...

Takodje sto se Srbije tice ja ne nameravam da odustanem od vtesa zbog ovoga, a ni da se manje cimam,nadam se da i ostali dele isto misljenje.
I'm with you.
Ali povecanje player baze kada igra prestane da dobija official support-= nemoguce. Nema strtera, nema bustera, nema novih karata...
Ali da cemo prestati da se igramo- necemo. Ako nista, za par meseci ocekujem da bi trebalo da padne cena nekih retkih karata, pa da pokupujem sve to sto mi fali.
Na kraju krajeva, igra je vec jednom prezivela hijatus od 3 godine neizlazenja, mozda se dogodi i drugi izlazak iz torpora. You never know...
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Pendargon wrote:
I'm with you.
Ali povecanje player baze kada igra prestane da dobija official support-= nemoguce. Nema strtera, nema bustera, nema novih karata...
Not necessarily. Rage CCG je prestao da se proizvodi pre 10+ godina, ali zahvaljujuci jakoj bazi fanova koja je uzela stvar u svoje ruke i nastavila da radi i prave fan setove Rage ne samo sto je ziv, vec raste. Verovatno ne u meri u kakvoj bi raslo da se to proizvodi jos, ali opet. I uvek ce biti karata za nove ljude, mnogi su oni koji ce iz besa prodavati svoje kolekcije na ebay-u i sl. While there is a will, there is a way.
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Rat with a tool wrote:
Pendargon wrote:
I'm with you.
Ali povecanje player baze kada igra prestane da dobija official support-= nemoguce. Nema strtera, nema bustera, nema novih karata...
Not necessarily. Rage CCG je prestao da se proizvodi pre 10+ godina, ali zahvaljujuci jakoj bazi fanova
Mislim da si u jakoj, jakoj zabludi... rage ccg nije nikada niti ce ikada imati fan base za cetvrtinu onoga koliko ima vtes.
A i sta ces da kazes novom igracu: idi na net, kupi neke karte, a ostal odstampaj na papiru...? Ne fercera...
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Pendargon wrote:
Mislim da si u jakoj, jakoj zabludi... rage ccg nije nikada niti ce ikada imati fan base za cetvrtinu onoga koliko ima vtes.
A i sta ces da kazes novom igracu: idi na net, kupi neke karte, a ostal odstampaj na papiru...? Ne fercera...
Pa tako se pocinje, prvo mi je Krle dao dek da probam igru, posle sam kupio starter tzimisca ( nije da nemozete da sklopite ljudima koji su novi i koji hoce da se igraju neki starter dek od svih karata koje imate ), pa posle sam malo stampao karte koje mi se svidjaju, pa sam na kraju narucivao i sa neta iste.
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pretpostavljam da ste svi raspolozeni da nastavimo da se igramo? to sto se nista novo ne stampa ne znaci da stare karte prestaju da vaze :) taman mi se dopada kako je zazivela scena zadnjih dva meseca, opet, sto kaze Zivkovic, moze se novim igracima pomoci, a starih startera ima jos puno na netu i bice ih sigurno jos godinama, nece ih baciti, moraju ih rasprodati.
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Pendargon wrote:
Rat with a tool wrote:
Pendargon wrote:
I'm with you.
Ali povecanje player baze kada igra prestane da dobija official support-= nemoguce. Nema strtera, nema bustera, nema novih karata...
Not necessarily. Rage CCG je prestao da se proizvodi pre 10+ godina, ali zahvaljujuci jakoj bazi fanova
Mislim da si u jakoj, jakoj zabludi... rage ccg nije nikada niti ce ikada imati fan base za cetvrtinu onoga koliko ima vtes.
Er, nije li to zapravo bolje po vtes? Ima vecu bazu fanova, lakse ce se odrzati u zivotu nakon prestanka produkcije. Da, cinjenica je, Rage nikad nece imati toliku bazu fanova, jer je igra zivela tipa godinu/dve. Ali baza je jaka, to je poenta. Uz jaku potporu vtes moze da ostane ziv i cak i da se razvije. Osim ako igraci nemaju stap u dupetu, pa ne zele da se "cimaju".
A sto se tice nabavke karata, eto nakon tih pomenutih 10+godina uspeo sam da nabavim dovoljno karata za igranje Rage-a, uz minimalno cimanja na ebay-u i to bez stampanja ikakvih karata, jer se trenutno drzim samo oficijalnih izdanja.
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Tracak nade: Neko se javlja da otkupi prava:
Actually, FWIW, I told Ben this morning when I heard that V:TES was
going to die that Stronghold Games could continue to print V:TES!...

...but then I remembered who owns 1/2 the rights: WotC. WotC/AH/
Hasbro do not generally permit sublicensing of their IP, or at least
not easily. I would definitely consider doing this, but I do not
think I could get the rights from one or the other companies that hold
the licenses.

If anyone here has direct access to the right people (i.e. directly to
the Directors of Licensing) at both firms (WotC and CCP), please do
not hesitate to contact me. I would do everything I could to keep
V:TES moving forward. As you can see from the games we are currently
publishing, not to mention the several *major* surprises that we have
yet to announce as we work through those licenses, we like to bring
back out of print games. This is part of our business model, and we
would definitely consider printing V:TES given the chance. Let me
know if one has the correct contacts within these firms. You can
reach me at "stephen AT stronghold-games DOT com".

In any case, my post was to just re-introduce myself to the V:TES
community. I know that Robert Goudie, Ben Peal, LSJ, and some of the
old timers here already knew of Stronghold Games -- Robert and Ben at
least are on the Stronghold Games mailing list. I just wanted to let
the rest of you know who I was and let you know about Stronghold
Games.

No carcass picking going on here... :)

Thanks,
Stephen M. Buonocore
Managing Director
Stronghold Games LLC
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lepo, lepo...
Pamti, pa vrati...

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