Tag Team Terror

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:55 pm

I have a rather strange version of menoth list which I will, of course, discuss with Moma before the tourney. No reedemers, Menoth needs to leave long-range rockets to Magnus, he and Master gunner are far better at that

Bathory · Post by **Bathory** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:23 pm

Don't worry Rick, I listed Harby, Kreoss and Sevy as the tournament casters for Menoth, not THE casters I'll use in our 'Tag Team Terror Tournament'.

So you can expect the oldman or Mr. Knockdown for th TTT. Reznik wont be painted at that time (and I don't know how to play with him, still

)

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:36 pm

Well, OK I understand if you're scared to play the Harbinger.....

Let's see if he takes the bait

mladjano bugarce · Post by **mladjano bugarce** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:58 pm

kada smo kod Severiusa da li znas da njegov fit zaustavlja chanelovanje u njegovoj kontroli na jednu rundu i to ne kao puls vec kao buble. Pogldeaj PP eratu za menot.

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:43 am

Ajde sad da neko to prevede, za nas sa jeftinijom ulaznicom :D

Bathory · Post by **Bathory** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:18 am

Jel moze link, posto na zvanicnom FAQ-u nista ne vidim...

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:47 am

Prva recenica

Erratum: Prime p.97 : Divine Might
Replace second paragraph with the following: No spells may be cast or channeled in Severius’ control area except by friendly Protectorate models for one round. Enemy models with the Focus Manipulation ability currently in Severius’ control area do not receive focus points next turn.

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:24 am

Ako sam ja, ovako neuk, dobro razumeo: to znaci da NI caster NI nod ne smeju da budu u 16"? Umesto kako je ranije bilo: ako je caster na 17" a nod na 10", onda je moglo da se castuje kroz nod?

Bathory · Post by **Bathory** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:27 am

Pa dobro, sta tu ima specijalno, moras da castujes i chanelujes van njegovog range-a, ne vidim razliku, tako sam igrao i ranije

Post by **Dzon Vejn** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:42 am

Ima onih koji nisu

... Meni su svi do sada rekli da ako je caster van 16", nema veze gde je nod... on moze da castuje. Do duse, pitaj boga kada sam ja zadnji put igrao.

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:01 pm

Meni su svi do sada rekli da ako je caster van 16", nema veze gde je nod.

Sto je bilo i tacno, dok nisu ubacili ovo sto je nikica boldovao u wording feata.
Ali, bottom line je, da je to nebitno. Severiusov feat ce SIGURNO zahvatiti protivnickog castera, jer ima range 21 inch (potencijalno 23). A ako caster nema fokusa, ne moze ni da channeluje. A i dalje je jednako useless protiv hordi, jer one ne channeluju...

mladjano bugarce · Post by **mladjano bugarce** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:07 pm

Znam ali sada je koristan i protiv kastera koji stoje na drugoj strani table, koven ili hejli npr.

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:46 pm

Mnjeh... kao sto rekoh, dohvatice ih on, jer ako se pomerao u prvom krugu, u drugom moze da ucharguje nekog svog, i hvata featom do kraja table.
Mnogo mu je bolja errata to sto sada moze da ukine fokus i neprijateljskim menotovcima, a pre nije mogao :-)

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:42 pm

mladjano bugarce wrote:Znam ali sada je koristan i protiv kastera koji stoje na drugoj strani table, koven ili hejli npr.

Ne radi na Vjestice-vile.
One su warcaster ali one nemaju fokus vec Egregor, koji je imun na focus redjusing efekte.

EDIT
da ne bude zabune, ostatak fita radi ali bar ce jedna vjestica da se izvuce iz Severiusove kontrole

Post by **Shunka** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:41 am

Ostavljam Dawngreetera i Trolovi se pridruzuju Stevi i Cygnaru.

Ako se ja dobro secam Dawny moze da bira izmedju:

Stefaz - Cryx
Nikica - Cryx
Kruno - Cygnar
Vedran - Khador

Druga bitna stvar - od preostalih igraca, neko moze da uzme neku od nasih Hordi ne bi li se udruzio sa nekim!

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:39 pm

Nikice, rasta-Isuse, da se mi odma dogovorimo da cu da pristanem da me blamiras pred svim tim svetom kao moj saborac ako dobijem cokoladicu za uzvrat?

:D

mladjano bugarce · Post by **mladjano bugarce** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:03 am

Moj covek!

Rover · Post by **Rover** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:09 am

ja ne igram 90% ispitni rok mi je od 5-9 novembra..

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:28 am

Dawngreeter wrote:Nikice, rasta-Isuse, da se mi odma dogovorimo da cu da pristanem da me blamiras pred svim tim svetom kao moj saborac ako dobijem cokoladicu za uzvrat? :D

Podrzavam ali moramo da napravimo dres za tim...
I trljanje bradavica ja ukljuceno u victory dance

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:50 pm

Nista bez trljanja bradavica, naravno :lol:

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:45 pm

So - whose with who?

Post by **Shunka** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:53 pm

Bojan (Khador) & Dalibor (Orboros)
Miroslav (Legion) & Vuk (Khador)
Shark (Menoth) & Rick (HBC)
Shunka (Trollbloods) & Steva (Cygnar)
Dawngreeter (Skorne) & Nikica (Cryx)
Pendargon (Mercenaries) & Moma (Menoth)

Did I miss anyone?

RatGod · Post by **RatGod** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:23 pm

Me as Orboros and Paja as Cygnar!

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:42 am

@ Ratgod - please remember to pay your entrance fee for the last tournament before entering for another one.

Bojan (Khador) & Dalibor (Orboros)
Miroslav (Legion) & Vuk (Khador)
Shark (Menoth) & Rick (HBC)
Shunka (Trollbloods) & Steva (Cygnar)
Dawngreeter (Skorne) & Nikica (Cryx)
Pendargon (Mercenaries) & Moma (Menoth)
Ratgod (Orboros) & Pavlik (Cygnar)

So one more space. I believe we have Stefan looking to play Cryx - do we have another Skorne of Everblight player? I can lend a pretty strong Skorne list to someone? It would be nice to get a representation from Novi Sad as well.

stefaz · Post by **stefaz** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:00 am

I'm still looking for a comrade....

stefaz · Post by **stefaz** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:05 pm

I'll play with Ines. Cryx and Everblight.

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:21 pm

stefaz wrote:I'll play with Ines. Cryx and Everblight.

Good man.

And then there were 8 or infact 16.

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:50 pm

So... next Sunday, 9th of November, right?

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:26 am

@Shark
Have you been bl**dy practicing?!?!

Further announcement;

On Sunday 9th Sigil has also decided to put on a promotion.

Basically they are looking to return some of the stock that is not that popular. This is a great opportunity if you've been flirting with buying some stuff for fluff-purposes or to fill out lists from 500 points to 750 points. You can pick up some real bargains as most of it will be being sold at 25% - 33% discount.
It will be one day only and it is a limited number of bargains.

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:44 pm

Kad pocinje turnir?

Da li su modeli mog druga iz tima friendly modeli?
Da li smem da merim kontrol rejndz njegovog kastera/vorloka?
Da li smem da aktiviram njegove modele/junite?
Koliki je tajm limit za rundu/potez/partiju?
Da li ce teren biti predefinisan na svakom stolu ili ce se postavljati po Terrain Placement Rulles iz knjige?
Po kom sistemu ce se odradjivati parovi posle prve runde?
Ko su sudije?

During the match 1 player may ask to confer with his partner.

Jel to znaci da se igra stopira ili jendostavno mogu da pricam partneru sta da radi i kako da pomera figurice?

Every time a player discusses/suggests/signs a tactic to his partner outside of the conference a Victory Point is awarded to the opposing team

Sta ce spreciti ljude da naknadno kazu: "Confer! Confer! I wanted to say confer!"?
Cak i da neko potrosi sva 3 confera najmanji je problem dati protivnicima 1VP i ispricati partneru taktiku kako bi se napravio bitan potez u igri. 1Vp je beznacajna kazna.

An entrance fee of 200 dinars per team needs to be paid. This entitles each player to a free drink during the game

Pretpostavljam da si hteo da napises dz pice za ceo turnir?

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:15 pm

Da li su modeli mog druga iz tima friendly modeli?
Da li smem da merim kontrol rejndz njegovog kastera/vorloka?
Da li smem da aktiviram njegove modele/junite?
Koliki je tajm limit za rundu/potez/partiju?
Da li ce teren biti predefinisan na svakom stolu ili ce se postavljati po Terrain Placement Rulles iz knjige?
Po kom sistemu ce se odradjivati parovi posle prve runde?

1: da
2: ne
3: ne
4: nema (zasad)
5: verovatno predefinisan
6: po svajcarcu
7: verovatno ja i bojan :-)

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:22 pm

To expand upon Dule's answer

Resurrection wrote:Kad pocinje turnir?

11 'o' clock

Resurrection wrote:Da li su modeli mog druga iz tima friendly modeli?

Yes, though they are not your faction. Each team relates to the other as Mercenaries or Minions.

Resurrection wrote:Da li smem da aktiviram njegove modele/junite?

No. During the activation if you say "I'll activate my banes" now that's fine. If you say "You activate your unit now" that's a VP a way. As is "why don't you activate so-and-so now?"

Resurrection wrote:Koliki je tajm limit za rundu/potez/partiju?

I would say to aim for 2 hours for the match. As this is an unusual tournament I don't want to be strict but 10-15 minutes a side should be ample. If you feel your opponents are time wasting let them know.

Resurrection wrote:Da li ce teren biti predefinisan na svakom stolu ili ce se postavljati po Terrain Placement Rulles iz knjige?

6-8 pieces of terrain per table. Each team gets to place 3-4 pieces and they can't be within 3" of one another. Standard stuff.

Resurrection wrote:Po kom sistemu ce se odradjivati parovi posle prve runde?

I have no idea what "odradjivati" means so I'll ignore that question.

Resurrection wrote:Ko su sudije?

Each team knows the rules and therefore it is self governing. If there is a dispute just ask a player on another table what he thinks. Remember anytime you have a conversation with your partner about what is going on at the table and you are not conferring you lose a victory point. Even saying "I wouldn't do that, or "not so far" or "No!" as they move gives a VP away. If you review your own plan out loud to yourself that is also a victory point away. If you say "I really need to becareful about such and such model" then that too alerts your partner to a threat and is a VP away.

Resurrection wrote:Jel to znaci da se igra stopira ili jendostavno mogu da pricam partneru sta da radi i kako da pomera figurice?

The game stops and both players may talk at the board or away from the board. It is the opposing team's responsibility to time 2 minutes and in view of sportsmanship not to use the opportunity to discuss tactics themselves in the other team's timeout.

Resurrection wrote:Sta ce spreciti ljude da naknadno kazu: "Confer! Confer! I wanted to say confer!"?

Tough. 1 VP away.

Resurrection wrote:Cak i da neko potrosi sva 3 confera najmanji je problem dati protivnicima 1VP i ispricati partneru taktiku kako bi se napravio bitan potez u igri. 1Vp je beznacajna kazna.

If the attitude is "it's only 1 VP so what I'll save more than that by telling him" then the people playing are at this tournament for the wrong reason. The VP penalty system is not to keep players honest - it is to equal the advantage to the other team that may have been gained by an involuntary slip such as "No not there, his cavalry will get you, oops sorry - I didn't mean to say that". If people persistantly cheat or develop a secret code to get round the rules then, really, I just won't let them enter anymore tournaments that I organise. Part of the fun of this is to see you partner move to within Obliterator rocket range and then think "how the hell am I going to keep him alive? - How can I take out that model?" Try and play this game to win but win fairly (I know that's tricky for a Cryx player).

Resurrection wrote:Pretpostavljam da si hteo da napises dz pice za ceo turnir?

And there was me thinking your last question would be "What do I get for winning hey?"

The fluff behind this tournament is that your factions hate each other but their fates are inextricably entwined. There are no message runners or aldiss lamps or semaphore signalsmen like there would be in a coherent single faction. In the heat of battle occassionally the 2 leaders have a brief discussion as to their tactics as they both know that when this battle is over hostilities between them will resume. They loath helping each other but must or die.

Now (without back tracking) we do have several inexperienced players in the tournament. If they seem unsure of how something works then they can ask the table. So for example "can my unit shoot a target up on a hill?" is fine, though if the partner answered "yes but this target would be better" or "yes but use CRA to ensure you hit" or "why don't you use this special unit ability" that would be a VP away. I think this balances out because VP's gained from the improved kill will be offset by the loss of VP's.

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:25 pm

FGSerbia wrote:they seem unsure of how something works then they can ask the table

Of course I don't literally mean 'ask the table' I mean ask the 3 other players in the game.

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:21 pm

Damn. And I was really hoping I'd finally get a chance to use my How to Communicate With Furniture in 10 Easy Steps manual

:lol:

Resurrection · Post by **Resurrection** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:46 pm

Rick wrote:If the attitude is "it's only 1 VP so what I'll save more than that by telling him" then the people playing are at this tournament or the wrong reason. The VP penalty system is not to keep players honest - it is to equal the advantage to the other team that may have been gained by an involuntary slip such as "No not there, his cavalry will get you, oops sorry - I didn't mean to say that". If people persistantly cheat or develop a secret code to get round the rules then, really, I just won't let them enter anymore tournaments that I organise. Part of the fun of this is to see you partner move to within Obliterator rocket range and then think "how the hell am I going to keep him alive? - How can I take out that model?" Try and play this game to win but win fairly (I know that's tricky for a Cryx player).

Pitao sam jer je krajnje nedefinisano, a ne volim kad su pravila nedefinisana jer onda lako dodje do razlicitih interpretacija.
(da ne bude da se jedan VP kazne racuna: "Ne! (ne ne radi to!)" i "Pogledaj ovaj dijagram napada a sledece 2 runde.")

Moje namere us casne

Najmanji mi je problem da budem fini ako i ostali budu.

And there was me thinking your last question would be "What do I get for winning hey?"

Igram sa Griterom; besplatn pica su sve cemu mogu da se nadam

...pogotovo sto ce neko da metne sumu na sred stola kad bude igrao protivu DG i mene

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:02 am

Resurrection wrote:Igram sa Griterom; besplatn pica su sve cemu mogu da se nadam

He may surprise you. He lulls opponents into a real sense of security and then somehow pulls a victory.

Also look at poor Momcilo he knows he'll have a -50 VP total at the end of each game as Dule will be passing comments on all 4 matches simultaneously.

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:26 am

Also look at poor Momcilo he knows he'll have a -50 VP total at the end of each game as Dule will be passing comments on all 4 matches simultaneously.

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: So true... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Dawngreeter · Post by **Dawngreeter** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:11 pm

FGSerbia wrote:
Resurrection wrote:Igram sa Griterom; besplatn pica su sve cemu mogu da se nadam
He may surprise you. He lulls opponents into a real sense of security and then somehow pulls a victory.

This is what we will refer to as the Dawngreeter Maneuver. It usually involves a Kreya. It's also unique among the tactical maneuvers in that it also surprises the person pulling it off as well as the opponent.

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:59 pm

@Rick: I just came back from camping ... i probably will be practicing this Thu/Fri tho

FGSerbia · Post by **FGSerbia** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:30 am

Tuesday night from 19:00.