Klub Zmaj

Hopefully we've got enough people to have another Warmachine/Hordes tournament. If nothing else it should be a lot of fun.
Details at http://www.fantasygamesserbia.com/ikcarnage.pdf

Great idea, Rick!
I like it all, 'cept for one thing :
in 350 mangled metal, you allow one solo. This defies the whole idea of warcaster+ warjacks, and in such environment, imagine somebody (if not all), brings Eyriss to the table? Or Alexia Ciannor? Or MOW Drakhun?
the list goes on...
I think that mangled metal should be just that... mangled metal. Apart from that little "hickup", excellent work! Can't wait for september... :D :D

You can field anything upto 350pts including 1 solo. If you take the Man of War Solo you are losing a warjack. I do expect a lot of Eyriss' and Bokurs just like I expect Alten Ashley to be popular in the Tooth and Claw lists. Alexia will receive no new units so I don't think she'll be that popular in a mangled metal list.
From what I understand this is standard rule though? You just don't want Eyriss knocking out the Iron Liche's focus every round and turning your 6 chickens into elaborate paperweights!!
:P

FGSerbia wrote:If you take the Man of War Solo you are losing a warjack.

The Drakhun is much better than any warjack.

No, you are not...
Butcher
Juggernaut
Juggernaut
Drakhun
349 pts.
and, no, it is not a standard rule, Mangled metal format does not include solos. There is , however, another format that it does... it is called 1-1-1-1, and that means that in 350 you can take 1 warcaster, 1 unit , 1 warjack, and one solo. Each unit attachment counts as a solo. Quite fun to start and introduce new players, unlike Mangled metal, where they only see giant robots and warcasters.

Butcher
Juggernaut
Juggernaut
Drakhun

Yes but you are only fielding 2 Warjacks. The archetypal list that I've seen is the cygnar starter + a solo

Commander Stryker
Charger
Lancer
Iron Clad
Gun Mage Adept
= 350 points

or the similar menoth equivalent
High Exemplar Kreoss
Crusader
Repenter
Revenger
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon
= 347 points etc

Both of these lists have an arc node, missile attack and a decent solo to go for the caster kill against the butcher who has no ranged weapons.

I can of course change the list but the idea of;
Iron Lich Asphyxious
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Pistol Wraith

versus

Captain E. Dominic Darius
Centurion
Centurion
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios

is very exciting...

but maybe you're right....?

Yes but you are only fielding 2 Warjacks.

True, but khador generaly cannot field more than 2 warjacks in MM, as they have only heavies. This way, they can field 3 heavies, (drakhun being the third), witch no one else can.
and :

I can of course change the list but the idea of;
Iron Lich Asphyxious
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Deathripper
Pistol Wraith

versus

Captain E. Dominic Darius
Centurion
Centurion
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios

is very exciting...

but maybe you're right....?

No... Darius wins that by a mile... but not because of eyriss (lich can kill little elf whenever he feels like it, and she will have tough time disrupting it with all that nodes to shield him), but because of darius's feat.
however :
Warwitch Deneghra:
Deathripper x 2
Nightwrech
Stalker x 2
skarlock
Ruin his day

Or :
Goreshade
Deathjack
Nightwrech x 2
Skarlock...

Dunno... maybe the 1-1-1-1 format would be better for this type of tourney, as it shows more balance, and colorful builds. And you cannot go wild on arcnodes

a decent solo to go for the caster kill against the butcher who has no ranged weapons.

Just spotted this...
That would be the day when a solo kills a butcher :lol: :lol: :lol:
And butcher's got a Cannon!!!
A variant :
Butcher :
Destroyer
Berserker
Drakhun

Feel free to swap butcher with vlad,or Irusk, or Destroyer with devastator or kodiak

1-1-1-1 also seems better to me.

I had another idea... what about Machine wraiths....?
They are usually crappy solos that could, in 350 MM wreak havoc if allowed

:D :D

Mhm...

Maybe I should have kept this for myself...

The 1-1-1-1 is only OK for Warmachine, for Hordes 1 Warbeast is pooey. I'll drop the solo rule and run them in parallel as intended. And I posted the link on the Privateer Press too :x

(wanders off in a random direction with tail between legs)

The 1-1-1-1 is only OK for Warmachine, for Hordes 1 Warbeast is pooey.

yeah, i agree.... i did not realize that it is mixed Metal/tooth event at 350.

(wanders off in a random direction with tail between legs)

*pat on the back*...

sooo... what's mangled metal?
on a side note, you might even see me at that tournament :P

Mangled metal is a tournament format of warmachine, and a counterpart of it in hordes is called tooth and claw. Basically, you have 350 points which you can spend exclusively on Warcaster and his jacks. No troops, no solos.

Mangled metal a ja imam magnusa... Savrseno...

niice, my kinda play

Mangled metal a ja imam magnusa... Savrseno...

Pravi izraz je... Mangled metal a ja imam Goreshadea i Denny

Shark

Mangled Metal/Tooth & Claw are quick fun games where the luck of the dice can make a massive impact. I hope most people will enter but the 500pt steam roller is the main event.

You have 6 months to paint your figures.

PS By that time I will have Seige Brisbane - (half armour vs a defender with AOE boosted shots).
Goreshade the Bastard my ass!! More like Goreshade the Carry Home in an Ashtray.

sounds like i have 6 months to get more figures and look my best at the tournament

anyway, what's the catch? is there an entrance fee or what?

follow the yellow brick road dorothy
(in this case at http://www.fantasygamesserbia.com/ikcarnage.pdf)
there is an entrance fee but with 13 prizes up for grabs in the main event alone there's all to play for.

PS By that time I will have Seige Brisbane - (half armour vs a defender with AOE boosted shots).
Goreshade the Bastard my ass!! More like Goreshade the Carry Home in an Ashtray.

*sticks a finger towards a goreshade mini and his card*
Please note two spells on goreshade. One is called Mageblight *khm* and the other cloak of shadows (or cloak of absolute brokennesssss :D :D )



BTW, Rick, would you please copy your battle report vs Miroslav over on this forum also. I have read it, and it's great!!!!

well then, i've got 6 months to get decent at this game
count me in, anyways...

akhm, just one technical note

"Steamroller 2.0 rules" link does not work in you pdf document rick

There is also no way of navigating your way to the rules if you connect to fantasygamesserbia directly

And can someone link me those rules to steamroller 2.0

And there are some rules which I dont like:

- It says that 750pts will be just for Warmachine. Why not for Horde?
- Since it is closed I figure that it will be just 4 players in that category, and there are 4 awards for them
- Most ridiculous is Best painted army award which will be given to someone of that 4 players (since it is closed you're sorta fixing who will get that reward). If someone competing in 500 pts tournament has far better painted figures, why he wont be allowed to grab that prize? My proposal is that you put painting in each category, or that you have separate rules for that (for example: if you wanna compete in best painted army, you must bring 750 pts army for that purpose (even if you're competing in 500 pts battles))

well then, i've got 6 months to get decent at this game

With the exception of one or two - that goes for all of us!!

And can someone link me those rules to steamroller 2.0

Your wish is my command http://www.gfmailorder.nl/events/Steamr ... 47ccb11e28

And there are some rules which I dont like:

Basically the 750pt tournament is a 4 player photo op with fully painted armies. The players will also be the judges and it will be more of a demo than a tournament. The reason why it's Warmachine only is that it follows the Hardcore rules and that is only open for Warmachine currently. The Steamroller is the main event - but I think you're right, there should be a best painted prize for that event too. But do we have that for the best painted army or model?? A lot of players will be fielding only part painted armies in that one. What do you think?

I'm sure I will be placing fully painted army... right now, of all miniatures I bought, only paladin and exemplar are not painted (last 2 I bought)... and if I can do it, then everyone else can, too (if they stop being lazy ).

Sheet amended to exclude solos and (thanks Joggy!!) now I have to come up with another 2 prizes.
For some reason when I convert to pdf the hyperlink stops working.

Some dodgy programmer did updates and is now waiting for Rick to put them online

Expect results for league and event page updates... soon TM

Bez soloa,... Kako cu sada da pobedim (pita se Magnus Mladic u planinama)...

Opet sam sa renegadeima...

BTW, Rick, would you please copy your battle report vs Miroslav over on this forum also. I have read it, and it's great!!!!

I'm just the milk of human kindness today :D
http://www.klubzmaj.org.yu/forum/viewto ... 4786#64786

Yes, thanks for accepting my proposal

And everyone here knows that I can paint incredible number of models in very short time when I have motivation (who sad tournamet ), so my army will be fully painted by then

Because you paint at work, you lucky git!!!

Jel turnir ostaje sa steamroller 2.0 ili ce se promeniti u najnoviju verziju (3.0 beta? 4.0?)

Po kojim pravilima ce biti turnir (steamroller 3? 4?) i kad ce biti spremni tereni da malo kao vezbamo scenarija?

Good point well made.

FGSerbia wrote:Good point well made.

Go me!
Some kind of more specific answer...?

Sveze informacije: Gotovo je sigurno da cemo jos ovaj put koristiti Steamroller 2, kako ne bi smo rizikovali da ne bude dovoljno potrebnog terena za sve ucesnike. Ovo su naravno samo glasine dok organizatori ne potvrde!

So...
Kada je turnir na kraju?? Koje su propozicije, sta, gde, ko, kada, kako... Zasto?

I kada stize nova porudzbina, jel' na vreme za turnir?

Porudzbina je dosla,samo knjiga legends treba da dodje u septembru pre turnira

[center]IRON KINGDOMS’ CARNAGE
The Belgrade Open 2008
Belgrade 26th – 28th September 2008
Sigil, Pop Lukina 6, 11000 Beograd, Srbije[/center]

Categories

Friday 26th September at 18:00 until 00:00
Entry Fee 100 dinars
350 point Mangled Metal & Tooth Claw Knock-Out Tournament
• Any Faction (incl. Mercs) or Horde
• A Warcaster/Warlock and Warjacks/Warbeasts only
• Assembled Models with Original Cards
Prizes awarded for the following categories;
• Overall winner (Warjack/Warbeast Unit Box)
• Runner-up (Warcaster/Warlock Blister)
Please note; This is a knock-out tournament

Saturday 27th September at 10:00 until 00:00
Entry Fee 300 dinars
500 point Steamroller Tournament (Open)
• Any faction (incl. Mercs) or Horde
• Assembled Models with Original Cards
• Steamroller 2.0 Tournament Rules
Prizes awarded for the following categories;
• Legendary Champion - Overall Winner
• Runner-up
• 3rd Place
• 4th Place
• Master Craftsman – Best Painted Army
• Legendary Assassin – Fastest Caster Kill
• Highest Finishing Cygnar
• Highest Finishing Menoth
• Highest Finishing Cryx
• Highest Finishing Khador
• Highest Finishing Mercenaries
• Highest Finishing Trollbloods
• Highest Finishing Orboros
• Highest Finishing Skorne
• Highest Finishing Everblight

Sunday 28th September at 16:00 until 22:00
Free Entry
750 point Hardcore Tournament (Open)
• Any Faction or Horde
• Total Annihilation Rules
• 7 minutes per turn
• Assembled Painted Models with Original Cards
• No proxy models
Prizes awarded for the following categories;
• Legendary Strategist - Overall winner

Entry Rules and Conditions

• Entry applicant can only field one entry in each tournament category (therefore there is a maximum of 3 entries per applicant).
• The deadline for entry is Thurday 25th September 2008..
• Players must be available to play all their matches. If they are absent or late they may forfeit that match.
• Players that are ‘borrowing’ models must also be able to field the model at the time of playing. Failure to do so will mean that the player must continue without the model.
• Players must adhere fully to the Steamroller 2.0 format tournament rules. You can submit tournament lists in writing or by email. Each player can only submit a single list. Any contested decisions can be referred to a judge. The judges’ ruling is final.
• Entrants needing accommodation should try to apply as early as possible so we can help with the organization.
• Any questions please email [email protected]

Please note Sigil bears no responsibility for models lost or damaged on its premises and asks entrants to bring only the models they intend to field.