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Moje misljenje je za sada da su dobrano zagorcali zivot Orkovima i da ce po ovome biti jednino kompetitivno igrivi kao bajker lista i to samo zbog kavera i turbo busta.No daj boze da se predomisle sto se tice wound alokacije :mrgreen:
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Ne verujem da ce se predomisliti, pogotovo zato sto nisu orkovi jedini koji to mogu da rade. A i dalje ste kompetitivni, i dalje bolite :D sad vam ne treba trukk da nam pridjete u prvom/drugom potezu, i vise ne moze da vam zagine powerklaw ork usled random paljbe.
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Dete sa zoljom-Eldar wrote:i jos neke jedinice imaju veci movement,kao sto su beasts,Jetbikes,bikes i(ovako bas pise u knjizi,barem tako kazu ona dvojica iz clip-a)Eldar Jetbikes,swarms.....I jos ono sto zaboravih,da ako su dve jedinice vezane u kombat i treca charge-uje ta jedinica(3) ima I:10,sto je velika stvar za rase kao sto su Necrons,Tau i Orks,za uzasno lose za rase kao sto su Eldar i Tyranids.
samo treba biti strpljiv i sačekati "reanimaciju" exotida i pogledati te opcije, a ja se tome nadam odavno :D
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samo 16 funti za 12 komada. Pa da li cete tri baze od 4 ili 4 baze od 3 modela, na vama je :)


sa Forgeworlda, naravno:
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Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Aaaaaaaa...so awesome! (iako sam ja Ultramarinac :D )

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Ovo bi trebalo uskoro (navodno):
I've been told the following:

no BT in the near future
DA are "in progress"
Eldar and Tau are being worked on, with Eldar further along than Tau


Concerning Chaos:

the book is done and almost at the printers
an Iron Warriors character (?) has been seen, with a huge servo harness
possible new Obliterators (plastic or Finecast?)
painted versions of all 4 cult terminators have been sighted - could be conversions though
plastic Plaguebearers on round bases have been sighted


The already "known" Necron wave was confirmed: 2 flyers, the big walker, the jet bikes, Wraiths and Spiders. I quote: "The wraiths and spiders did NOT look like a dual kit".

Another interesting quote:

There ware also a few Nids ready to go, the Tervigon/Tyranofex dual kit and a flyer that I wasn't familiar with, looked about lictor sized but more resembled a winged zoanthrope.
Confirms the usual suspects - but the other beasty sounds like the Parasite of Mortex to me, not the Harpy.

And last, but definetely not least: more flyers seem to be in the works, including an Ork Fighter! It seemed to be very similar to the FW version. No specific mention of a timeframe was given - expect it sometime the next six months.

The usual disclaimer: while I trust my birdies, you don't have to. Please don't take any of this as gospel.
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Vidi, postoji rumor da treba da se pojave nove boje u njihovom diapazonu, ali da ih neko vec ima na e-bay... zna li neko jos nesto o ovome?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Opsirnije o ovome na jednom stranom forumu :

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/sho ... ?p=1154794
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Mala analiza GW boja kroz vreme, i predviđanja šta će da bidne...
http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2012 ... laced.html
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Mechrite red vec postoji ;)
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Nije da je rumor, ali sad je izaslo, i prilicno je ok battleforce. :)

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Novi Space Wolf i Tyranid modeli!!!!

http://ttfix.blogspot.com/2012/02/games ... f-and.html
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Simpatican je onaj leteci Tyrant sto balansira na repu. :)
Moze i da se sastavi Swarmlord, to je isto cool. :D
I Thunderwolf Cavalry vise ne jasu lasice/pekinezere/veverice/cau-caue. Ovo napokon lici na vukove.
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Prelepo izgleda i Trygon i Tyrannofex :D can't wait to buy them.
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A kako stvari stoje, nečekaćeš se... :(
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Poucen doticnom trenutnom situacijom, ja cu njih nabaviti pred majski turnir pa makar isao licno u Englesku po njih :P

Hah! svi su na ovalnim bazama :D Znaci da je moja konverzija i dalje validna (iako izgleda kao utter shit u poredjenju sa ovim lepotama :D)
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Valjda ce da izadje second wave nekrona pre majskog turnira...na listi zelja su Doom Scythe i Triarch Stalker.
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Space Wolves Thunderwolf Cavalry 3 Fig Box 3-Mar-12 $54.50
Space Wolves Fenrisian Wolf Pack 5 Fig Box 3-Mar-12 $24.75
Arjac Rockfist, The Anvil of Fenris 1 Fig Clampack 3-Mar-12 $24.75
Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf 1 Fig Box 3-Mar-12 $41.25
Tyranid Hive Tyrant / The Swarmlord 1 Fig Box 3-Mar-12 $53.75
Tyranid Tyrannofex / Tervigon 1 Fig Box 3-Mar-12 $57.75

Cene i datum izlaska. Ostatak na linku.
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Zanimljive im ove cene...
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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A ja se nadao da ce izbaciti novi codeks, ili Tau ili Tempalre...
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Tesko. :wink:
Treba da izadju jos neki Dark Eldari (i Necroni), a ove godine ce biti i dosta LotR-a, s obzirom da krajem godine izlazi film Hobit.
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rumori z mart-Tiranidi

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ako pobedish u olimpijadi za retardirane ,to ne menja cinjenicu da si i dalje... :commisar:
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Tiranid koji iz sebe izbacuje mini-Tiranide u toku borbe i copor vukova koji jede sve pred sobom po naredbi svog gospodara.
Impresioniran sam.

I konacno izbacuju leteceg Tiranida iz Imperial Armory-ja 4.
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To je leteci Hive Tyrant.
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Brother Coa wrote:I konacno izbacuju leteceg Tiranida iz Imperial Armory-ja 4.
Kao sto gore rece zerg, to je Hive Tyrant sa krilima, EVENTUALNO harpija.

Harridana iz IA4 nece nikada izbaciti kao plastiku. Prevelik je. Dzabe se nadas.

BTW, u drugim rumorima, izgleda je FW odlucio da prekopira Vladoov lavirint, na malo vecoj skali:

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I ko sto je Nostradamus predvideo,izlaze i Tyranidi i Space Wolves(al u advance order) :mrgreen: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... tyle=wh40k al bacam hejt zbog leseva Thousand Sonova :evil:
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Izasao je i Stravicni ili ti Arjac Rockfist! Sad ce dva lokalna vuka da zavijaju okolo. Doduse ovi magarci iz GW su mogli da redizajniraju i Urlika i Ragnara.
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Nesto o novim haoiticima...
14 Jan 2012 - This week saw very little apart from theDarkGeneral reiterating the following:
- Plastic Plaguebearers in the works
- Chaos set to get some faster vehicles (supporting ghost21's claim of "sort of" Landspeeders)
- Inclusion of a new Landraider varient (no clues as to which), and
- Daemon Engines taken 3-per-slot (again, no clues as to which Engines)

The one new piece of info was that Spawn packs could be increasing in max size and gaining the ability to be Marked.
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22 Jan 2012 - This week theDarkGenral again brought up Legion-specific sprues, saying it looked like Power Armour and Terminator Armour would be on separate sprues.

These would include heads, shoulder pads, banners, a few weapon options (possibly chest plates?), and I assume would likely be Direct Only like the Battlewagon upgrade, but this is not confirmed.

He also said CSM would get a new box with all upgrade options (I assume he means special weapons here, as I doubt heavies would all be included)

He went on to say all Cult Marines would get new kits in the future, but implied they wouldn't be out at release (I wouldn't expect them to have that many kits in a first wave )

So the main concept was that the new CSM box could be upgraded using one of the Legion-specific sprues to make Legions troops.

This has lead to the re-posting of the unreleased Aspiring Champion Terminator upgrade bits seen at a Games Day some time ago. It is not clear if this has anything to do with what theDarkGeneral's rumours.
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30 Jan 2012 - Apart from a lot of discussion about Thousand Sons and the Rubrik, nothing much happened this week. theDarkGeneral did make a post supporting reds8n's assertion that Phil Kelly is writing the book (or finishing it to be more accurate). This leaves us with two fairly strong rumous that Mat Ward is the author and another two caliming it's Phil Kelly. What the truth is remains to be seen.
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07 Feb 2012 - Some interesting things occurred this week, with ghost21 posting that he "Made it up" calling all of his rumours into question. I have kept them in the summary, but highlighted them red, so as to ensure any instances of rumour reverb can be identified easily.

theDarkGeneral again claimed a Juggernaught mounted unit called Brazen Knights will appear and would also have a Fantasy equivalent. What this mean's for a possible kit is unclear.

New poster Son of Perturabo has also made some claims supporting the Legions/Renegades split, speculating on a Nov/Dec release and going against Harry by claiming it will NOT be the first 6th edition book.

75hastings69 shot down the rumours of Plastic Plague Bearers in the 6th edition starter set. Of course, that doesn't mean there won't be a full kit at some point. Time will tell.
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13 Feb 2012 - Darnok recently brought some more rumours to the table regarding Chaos, saying the codex is “done and almost at the printers” whatever that means.

He also spoke of a few miniatures we can expect to see, including an Iron Warriors character with servo harness, possible new Obliterators, and plastic Plaguebearers on round bases. What with 75hastings69's recent denial of Plaguebearers in the starter set, it is possible these are a full plastic kit.

Darnok also said that painted versions of all four Cult Terminators have been sighted, but said they could have been conversions. These could have been made with the sprues other rumours have mentioned.
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21 Feb 2012 - This week theDarkGeneral told us new Chaos Bikes and the New Dread have been spotted by GW Memphis staff, who claim these plastic kits have lots of bits.

They also apparently have a pdf of some sort and say it "screams death and carnage"

The bikes were confirmed as being new, not recut, and the Dread was described as a "crazy spikey combat dread"

theDarkGeneral also implied that there may be an additional heavy weapon upgrade for Chaos units, but was supposedly told it's not a Plasma Cannon

ant1clock let us know his local GW told him that the Thousand Sons kit is no longer available because they are moving to Finecast. It is unclear if this means a new, all Finecast kit, or if the existing metal components will move to FC.
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27 Feb 2012 - This week saw a lot of speculation about new Thousand Sons miniatures based solely on the unique looking Thousand Sons corpse on the base of the new Finecast Thunderwolf Lord. Some believe it to foreshadow new sculpts, whilst others point out that scenic bits for other armies have appeared in kits before without new kits for those eventuating (e.g. Plaguebearers). Personnally, I don't think it means anything.

TheDarkGeneral told us that early discussions included the idea of Legion-specific “Daemonic Rider” units, such as Disc mounted Rubriks, Beast mounted Plague Marines, Seeker mounted Noise Marines, and the previously mentioned “Brazen Knights”, but went on to imply development may have stalled because of the question, “What would the other Traitor Legions get?”

theDarkGeneral also suggested that Chaos may get more Predator weapon options similar to Razorbacks (by which I think he means slightly lighter armed), revealing one of these options could be a Twin Linked Plasmagun turret with single Plasmagun sponsons.
Just some quick news:

*Obliterators: Get more then just "energized" weapons, which may include hvy auto-cannon and missle launcher.

*Special Characters: Several get varying levels of Eternal Warrior (1-3), which includes Abaddon, Kharn and Typhus and 2 others.

*Characters/HQs: A few more options for mid-level characters which according to Legion, can be taken as HQ slots (two for one) or as a separate Elite or Fast or Troop choice that can be split off? Maybe like a unit of Dark Apostles that can then split off as squad leaders? Not sure on this exactly. My buddy often talks to quickly!
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Jel zna neko nesto o novijim Orkovima,hoce li skoro izlaziti? :?:
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Ne bi trebalo, osim ako se nesto drasticno ne promeni nema sanse ove godine. A dok ne izadje sesta edicija i dok ne vidimo sta ce nam ona doneti orcima i ne treba nova knjiga
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Jos o novim haoticima. (veoma dugacak post)
Below is a complete summary of the curent state of rumours. As new information comes to light, this summary will be updated.

Recently, ghost21 posted that he had "made up" his information. Rather than expunging it completely, I will keep it here highlighted in red so that should similar stuff come up later, it can be weighed against this old stuff and people can decide whether it is simply rumour reverb.

General information:

ghost21 reports that the plan is for 3 Chaos books. Legions, Renegades and Daemons

Daemons are already covered, so the next book will cover the Chaos Legions, with a future Renegades codex incorporating all manner of traitor humans, mutants and Marines-gone-bad.

Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online supports this split of Codices.

ghost21 thinks this Legions book will be 1st or 2nd book after 6th edition, which is being released July 2012, putting the release around October-November 2012

Harry supports this date, saying:

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I do think CSM are the first sixth edition book but not sure if they come just before or just after 6th edition.
(note he does not mention what type of CSM will be covered in this book)

theDarkGeneral contradicts this, saying he has heard of 3 separate Legions books with an even split of Legions in each. He claims 2 are planned for release in 2012 and the third for early 2013. He further claims a “Lost and the Damned” style book and a “largely Daemon-based” campaign book are in the works for after that.

theDarkGeneral was supposedly given the Legion split breakdown as:
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*World Eaters, Word Bearers and Nightlords

*Deathguard, Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children

*Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Black Legion
theDarkGeneral more recently began supporting the Legions / Renegades split, agreeing that the current CSM Dex will be tweaked in White Dward and called Chaos Renegades.

Both ghost21 and Jared Van Kell say Mat Ward is rumoured to be writing the codex. (seriously guys, get over it )

Reds8n contradicts this, saying Ward is tied up with other projects (likely LotR or Hobbit related) and that Phil Kelly will be writing this book. theDarkGeneral has recently agreed with this.

Minor Gods will supposedly make an appearance and all Legions will be included

The minor Gods are named, and will act in a similar way to marks, but have no Daemons.

Background:
Ghost21 tells us the background has been expanded and improved so that Legions and their worship of the Gods is far less one-dimensional.

theDarkGeneral says the background will include info on “alliances, distrust and full fledged war within the 9 Traitor Legions” with Black Legion referred to as "arrogant"

Rules:
Each Legion will have something unique to them, but will have unit restrictions to offset their inherent bonuses.

Ghost21 further clarifies by saying World Eaters may be restricted to 1 Havoc squad, but could potentially take more by “trading in” something else.

theDarkGeneral tells us:

Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...
And goes on to say the following about the different Legions:

Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.

*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!

*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.

*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!

*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...

*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...

*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!

*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.
He later added:

Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
*Word Bearers: Will be able to take Marked units but with some restrictions. Apparently with all the current Black Library Books out on them (I'm enjoying their reads!), and mention of the Sanctified in Siege of Vraks, the ability to take Marked units has been brought up. Not sure how they'll do this, if it'll be a 1 unit for 1 unit.

*Alpha Legion: Hardest to get info on, but "might" be able to force a re-roll on the type of scenario?! This honestly sounds more like a Special Character ability to me...but we'll see...

*Iron Warriors: Their Cult Terminators will have access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shields, as well as Iron-Fire Cannon (thunder fire). Basic Chaos Marine squads "may" be able to take an additional heavy weapons team once past 10 models...
And later still:

Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
Death Guard gain a new ability (maybe Chosen squads only ?) that allows their poisoned attacks to ignore Armor Saves on a roll of a '6', much similar to Rending without the extra Armor Pen.

Iron Warriors become "siege specialists" which equivalents to Tank Hunters and reducing cover saves on enemy units!

Word Bearers are "zealots" and benefit from Chaplains as well as Turn 1 Daemon Summoning. New Daemonancers models are suppose to be SICK looking, but I believe just unit champ upgrades.

Emperor's Children have a haughtiness to them, but prideful, which may give them counter charge (on top of their already higher Initiative). More heavy weapons upgrades per squad, and their Chosen will be...scary fast!

Alpha Legion apparently have the greatest access to Imperial style vehicles, as well as more of an unlimited Force Org slot selections, next to the Black Legion. Much of their Army will be able to upgrade to "Infiltrators".

Black Legion, aka Sons of Horus, aka Luna Wolves are tentatively stubborn, and have greatest selection amongst the units/vehicles. HOWEVER, they're not fully trusted, not sure how this works out in game terms.

World Eaters truly become the combat monsters they're story lined to be. Marked Dreads, and Daemon Engines will be a prime staple in most Armies...

ghost21 tells us Chaos units have built in negatives depending on the God. It is unclear if these are just Cult Troops, or all Marked units

Nurgle units have a rule called "Stoic" meaning they can’t perform Sweeping Advances and will possibly get something akin to True Grit.

Khorne has to “engage in some kind of combat every turn” (not sure what this means ie does shooting count?) or roll on a D6 table and suffer some random penalty

Tzeentch require a “command figure” (likely Sorcerer) or will act based on a random D6 roll

Slaanesh are described only as having “very harsh results”

Wargear

theDarkGeneral says Nurgle Flamers can be made poisoned 3+ or even 2+ (possibly through a special character).

He also thinks Plague Knives will be poisoned 4+ with 6s ignoring Armour Saves. Although he goes on to say it’s likely only unit champions and Chosen/Possessed that get them.

ghost21 claims Legions will have access to Artificer Armour but by a different name

theDarkGeneral says the majority of CSM units will retain Bolter, Bolt Pistol & Close Combat Weapon.

theDarkGeneral claims Daemonic Mounts will be useful, with the Undivided version "worth while" for non-Marked Legions. He also implied that Tzeentchian ones will be fast, saying “Thousand Sons will be VERY pleased with their new found speed.”

theDarkGeneral has implied that there may be an additional heavy weapon upgrade for Chaos units, but was supposedly told it's not a Plasma Cannon


HQ

Special Characters:
ghost21 tells us characters will supposedly be very powerful, including the “Red Angel” from this artwork

Black Library author, Aaron Dembski-Bowden has revealed on B&C that considering discussions amongst Black Library authors and the GW IP people, he would be surprised at the Red Angel making an appearance.

Although ghost21 goes on to say he hasn’t seen a named Warsmith character, only a Dark Mechanicus one. Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online contradicts this saying Honsou will make an appearance.

Jared Van Kell says Kharn the Betrayer will become more survivable (likely due to Eternal Warrior and a 4+ Invulnerable save) but goes on to say “his bloodshed knows no bounds”

theDarkGeneral claims we will see the return of Droomrider, Doombreed, and Cypher as well as another 5 new characters. This does not preclude any or all existing special characters being included.

theDarkGeneral also tells us there will be a Slaaneshi Dreadnaught special character. ghost21 also confirms a Dreadnaught Special Character.

theDarkGeneral reports that Ahriman will be better due to new Chaos Psychic powers as well as "some kind of guaranteed psychic ability that can't be stopped via Psychic Hoods, etc"

ghost21 tells us Sorcerers will get something similar to a Psychic Hood, but called something else

ghost21 confirmed what TheDarkGeneral said about Word Bearers getting Chaplains / Dark Apostles

Techmarines will "kind of" be available according to ghost21


Elites

Jared Van Kell says Cult Terminators are likely to return under the proviso that they will only appear in dedicated cult lists.

theDarkGeneral tells us Chaos Dreadnaughts will no longer act randomly, and are able to take marks, but will not be able to be Venerable.

theDarkGeneral claims Possessed will be improved and supposedly have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.

theDarkGeneral claims that Chosen will get more upgrade options, but that they will get costly quickly depending on the Legion and wargear you select. Wargear options for them supposedly include Jump Packs, Terminator Armour, all types of Combi-Weapons, Twin Lightning Claws and more.
There is a chance that certain HQ choices can take a Chosen squad as a retinue.

ghost21 tells us there will be a "gladiator themed" World Eater unit. Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online says these are Chrono-gladiators who must keep killing in order to stop a timer in their heads from killing them.

ghost21 also says Emperor's Children will have access to a unit described as "soul shieldsman" which is possibly an upgrade for Veterans.

theDarkGeneral mentions a new unit called Brazen Knights consisting of "Skull Champions" (possibly super Khornate CSM Champions) riding Juggernauts. He has more recently suggested that this could in fact be an Apocalypse formation to be released around the same time.

He has more recently told us that early discussions included the idea of Legion-specific “Daemonic Rider” units, such as Disc mounted Rubrics, Beast mounted Plague Marines, Seeker mounted Noise Marines, and the previously mentioned “Brazen Knights”, but went on to imply development may have stalled because of the question, “What would the other Traitor Legions get?”



Troops

theDarkGeneral implies there will be some kind of “Scout unit” which will not be available to World Eaters.

God-specific Daemons will likely be included, but ghost21 is only sure of the lesser varieties (Plaguebearers, Bloodletters, Daemonettes & Horrors) and not the greater ones
theDarkGeneral claims Daemons will remain as they are in the Daemons Codex, but with slight points adjustments to reflect the ability to summon them and certain 6th edition changes.

theDarkGeneral says Thousand Sons (Rubric Marines) will not get any weapon options, but the new psychic powers can certainly fill that role.

Fast Attack

theDarkGeneral claims “Assault Berserkers” with jump packs will be available as Fast Attack choices.

ghost21 tells us Doomrider will be a unit upgrade (presumably for Bike squads)

ghost21 also adds that Nurgle Bikes are in, but their "Stoic" rule may make them less effective in his opinion.

ghost21 hinted that Attack Bikes or something similar may be included

ghost21 claims there may be something "sort of" like a Landspeeder available

theDarkGeneral says Spawn may possibly come in larger packs and gain the ability to be Marked

Heavy Support

theDarkGeneral tells us Slaughterfiends from Apoc will be available, as well as versions for other Legions and Marks.

theDarkGeneral reports Obliterators maximum unit size is increased to 4

theDarkGeneral says most types of Daemon Engines can be taken as 3 per FOC slot

theDarkGeneral claims Legions will get a new Landraider pattern with a higher transport capacity (possibly 15) and is described as a "warped version of one of the Imperial versions”

It is also rumoured that Land Raiders will get a version of Power of the Machine Spirit

Marked Legions are rumoured to get Havocs

theDarkGeneral has also hinted at the possibility of a new Monstrous Creature that is not a Greater Daemon but can have Marks of the Gods. Not all Legions can take one. For example Night Lords and the Alpha Legion are supposedly unable to take one. No further info is available as yet.

ghost21 claims the Legions may have access to a Daemonic weapon possibly comparable to the Thunderfire Cannon

theDarkGeneral has suggested that Chaos may get more Predator weapon options similar to Razorbacks, revealing that one of these options could be a Twin Linked Plasmagun turret with single Plasmagun sponsons.

Dedicated Transports

No news as yet


Miniatures:

Plastic Dreadnaught rumoured by ghost21, Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online and theDarkGeneral. TheDarkGeneral claims it will include multiple Dreadnought close combat weapons types, such as the Chainfist, Thunder Hammer, Power Scourge, etc.
75hastings69 claims there will be one in the 6th edition starter set.

Plastic Plague Bearers rumoured to appear in the 6th edition started. This has more recently been denied by 75hastings69. Darnok has said that plastic Plaguebearers on round bases have been sighted, indicating that if they are not in the starter box, they may have a full kit in the works.

Plastic Plaguemarines rumoured by ghost21

Plastic Raptors have been confirmed by the ever-reliable 75hastings69 who said:

Quote Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
I can add to this that the new plastic Raptors are very nice
Also supported by Jared Van Kell who also claims they may come a little later.

Darnok says there is a possibility of new Obliterators, although he is unable to say if they will be plastic or Finecast.

theDarkGeneral has said he's heard about a brand new Chaos Bike kit (not just recut) with lots of bits. No further information available.

theDarkGeneral claims there will be some way of converting Legion-specific models using a sprue of heads and shoulder pads which will fit all Power Armour kits. These would be Direct Only much like the Deff Rolla sprue for the Ork Battlewagon.

Harry somewhat confirms this with the following:

Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
What I heard was a box with the bits to make different legions.

But I thought this was something to do with Chaos Space Marines and the kit including various heads, spiky bits and icons to make different flavours of Chaos Marines.
theDarkGeneral has elaborated somewhat, saying Power Armour and Terminator bits could be separate:

Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
So basically, all the Legions will buy the same boxed set for the majority of their models, but to make them Legion specific, separate sprues will be sold which will include shoulder pads, heads, banners, few weapons, etc. Terminators will also get separate sprues made available to them to become Legion specific.
Darnok tells us that painted versions of all 4 cult terminators have been sighted, but that they could be conversions. It is also possible they were built using the above rumoured sprues.

ant1clock let us know his local GW told him that the Thousand Sons kit is no longer available because they are moving to Finecast. It is unclear if this means a new, all Finecast kit, or if the existing metal components will move to FC.

Abaddon – ghost21 claims this miniature is almost identical to the existing one, but “bulkier and taller” Liberium Online's Jared Van Kell supports this.

Kharn the Betrayer– Rumoured new miniature is described by Jared Van Kell as “bulkier and still ferocious in motion”

”Little” Horus Axiamand - ghost21 reports seeing a miniature for this guy, and implies it is very good

There’s some chatter about a boxed set featuring a named character from every legion. Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online has implied this will be Horus Axiamand, Honsou, an unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?), Kharn the Betrayer, Ahriman, Typhus, and Lucius the Eternal. This could be where conflicting reports of the inclusion of some characters has come from.

Darnok claims that:

Quote Originally Posted by Darnok View Post
an Iron Warriors character (?) has been seen, with a huge servo harness
ghost21 also claims to have spotted a miniature for a Dark Mechanicus character. He described it as:

Quote Originally Posted by ghost21 View Post
a very creepy sculpt based on a John Blanche piece
Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online has said this is a side project.
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Od pre par minuta na sajtu Forge World-a ...

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Odlican dizajn!
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Fuck yeah :twisted:
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Nije baš striktno 40K rumor, ali ima neke veze...
Citadel will completely revamp their paint range in April/May. Now we've got our hand on a supposed list of colours. An surprise - the range won't be getting smaller but bigger. In fact, it will be huge! The full list after the jump.

BASES
Ceramite White
Averland Sun
Jokaero Orange
Mephiston Red
Khorne Red
Naggaroth Night
Daemonette Hide
Kantor Blue
Macragge Blue
Caledon Sky
Stegadon scale green
Incubi Darkness
Caliban Green
Waaaagh! Flesh
Castellan green
Death world forest
Zandri dust
Steel Legion Drab
Bugmans Glow
Ratskin Flesh
Mournfang brown
XV-88
Rhinox hide
Dryad bark
Mechanicus standard grey
Celestus grey
Abaddon Black (the only black in the range)
Rakarth flesh
The fang
Screamer pink
Leadblecher (metal)
Balthasar Gold (metal)
Screaming Bell (metal)
Warplock brown (metal)


LAYER
White Scar
Yriel Yellow
Flash gitz yellow
Troll slayer orange
Fire dragon bright
Evil sunz scarlet
Wild Rider red
Wazdakka red
Squig Orange
Xereus Purple
Genestealer Purple
Warpfiend Grey
Slaanesh Grey
Alaitoc blue
Hoeth blue
Altdorf guard blue
Calgar blue
Teclis blue
Lothern blue
Sotek green
Temple guard blue
Kabalite green
Sybarite green
Warpstone glow
Moot green
Warboss green
Skarsnik green
Loren Forest
Straken green
Nurgling green
Elysian green
Ogryn camo
Ushabti Bone
Screaming skull
Tallarn sand
Karak stone
Cadian fleshstone
Kislev Flesh
Bestigor flesh
Ungor flesh
Skrag brown
Deathclaw brown
Tau light Ochre
Balor brown
Zamesi brown
Doombull brown
Tuskigor fur
Gorthor Brown
Baneblade Brown
Dawnstone
Administratum grey
Eshin grey
Dark reaper
Thunderhawk blue
Skavenblight dinge
Stormvermin fur
Ulthuan grey
Pallid wych flesh
Russ grey
Fenrisian grey
Pink horror
Emperors Children
Ironbreaker (metal)
Runefang steel (metal)
Gehennas gold(metal)
Auric Armour(metal)
Hashut Copper(metal)
Sycorax Bronze(metal)
Brass Scorpion(metal)
Runelord Brass(metal)

SHADES
Casandora Yellow
Fuegan Orange
Carroburg Crimson
Druchii Violet
Drakenhof Nightshade
Coelia greenshade
Biel-tan green
Athonian camoshade
Seraphim Sepia
Reikland fleshshade
Agrax earthshade (Devlan Mud)
Nuln Oil

DRY
Praxeti White
Hexos palesun
Kindleflame
Lucius Lilac
Etherium blue
Skink blue
Hellion green
Underhive ash
Eldar Flesh
Tyrant Shell
Terminatus stone
Longbeard grey
Changling pink
Necron Compound
Golden Griffon

GLAZE
Lamenters yellow
Waywatcher Green
Guilliman blue
Bloodletter

TEXTURE
Mourn Mountain snow
Stirland Mud
Blackfire Eath
Astrogranite
Armageddon Dust
Lustrian Undergrowth

TECHNICAL
Lahmian Medium
Ard coat
Imperial Primer
Liquid Green stuff

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Zanimljivo ...

"Now this is something that I've been hearing the odd rumour of lately, but its only now that there seems to be some evidence to support it....

The rumor is simply that Forge World items, are from next edition, to be completely game legal without needing to ask your opponant if you can use them, and that you'll be able to buy FW items in your local GW store.

I present this as evidence to ponder:

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Recently ordered FW parts in a clamshell pack rather then the usual FW plastic bags, and in the Finecast sprue format."

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Aha, znaci to sto su promenili ambalazu i nacin pakovanja automatski znaci da ce FW stvari u sledecoj ediciji biti legalne u normalnim partijama?!?! #-o :wall:
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Hm....Gauss Pylon u 1750 poena.....not bad. :P
Boga pitaj sta su GW/FW naumili.....
Mada me ovo ne bi cudilo, posto su FW Chaos Dwarfs sada skroz legitimna armija za ETC, mozda uvedu i nesto sasvim levo za 40k...
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