Jos Rumora!

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:40 pm

Ja se nadam da ce im te overwatch zone pomoci, posto ga i dalje opako duvaju u close combatu. Jel' su im napokon digli balistiku na 4 (na nekim modelima barem), ili i dalje moraju da koriste one mrtve markerlightove za bolji ucinak? Krootovi su snage 3 sad, valjda su dobili nesto korisno zauzvrat. Onaj 50-pounder robotenko izgleda super, ali videcemo sta on zapravo radi....verovatno nista posebno.

EDIT : ove stvarcice su im zanimljive :

Well there is a list of "Special Systems (Do not know the translation to English, summarizing

Iriudium Armor: +1T; 2+ Armour Save,
Repulsion Field: 1D6 hits of S4 at I10 in close combat
Chip of Jun'nami: The character may choose between: Stubborn, Furios charge, Tank hunter and MC hunter
Selfdestruction thing: Big Blast S5 when dies,
Close combat thing: May change all his attacks for 1 single attack of S10,
Neurothing: An enemy unit within 12" gets overheat rule
Control Node: If carrier doesn't shoot, the rest of the unit gets twinliked rule
Multi sensor thing: If carrier doesn't shoot, rest of the unit gets "ignore cover" rule

Histericni Istoricar · Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:08 pm

PeraNekron wrote: Onaj 50-pounder robotenko izgleda super, ali videcemo sta on zapravo radi....verovatno nista posebno.

Mrmot, cokolada, folija.

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:48 pm

Let's try and summarize what we know so far:

HQ -
Fireblade (60 points), Ethereal (50 points) and Commander. The first two are infantry, the last is in a crisis suit. No rules or wargear is known for the Commander, the Ethereal and Fireblade give buffs that mostly assist the Fire Warriors. Both Fireblade and Commander are BS5, the latter has current Shas'o stats. Fireblade LD9.

Elites -
Crisis 22 pts per suit, same stats as old. +10 points for Shas'vre, LD9. No known cost of wargear etc. 1-3 suits.
Stealth suits 30 pts per suit, 1 in 3 may exchange for fusion blaster. +10 points for Shas'vre, LD9. 3-6 suits.
Riptide 180 points. BS3 S6 T6 W5 LD9 2+/5++/feel no pain. Comes with a Heavy Burst Cannon and TL-SMS, can exchange the first for an Ion Accelarator for +5 points. The SMS can be exchanged for twin-plasma or fusion, for free. Can overcharge nova reactor, works on 3+ (if you fail, you take a wound). 4 effects: 3+ invulnerable, move 4D6 in assault phase, fire secondary weapon system twice, fire primary weapon system with nova profile. Can take up to two artillery shield drones which sport MP and 4+/4++ @ T6 (+25 points for each). 1 suit.

Troops -
FireWarriors 9 pts per model, same stats as old but with grenades. Can exchange for Carbines for free (as many as you want). +10 points for Shas'ui. 6-12 models.
Kroot 6 pts per model. Can take 3 krootox (+25 each) and 10 hounds (+5 each). Reduced to S3, otherwise same as before. Can buy "precision ammunition", making them snipers for +1 pt per model. 10-20 models.
Devilfish: same as before. +10 points for making Drones into SMS, +8 points per seeker (can have 2).

Fast Attack -
Bomber 160 points. Missile Pod, 2 seeker missiles, markerlight (though not the usual one, as far as I can tell. Might be an array?). Can TL the MP for +5 points. 2 Drones, both of which have twin-linked Ion Rifles. Lots of S7 fire, in other words. BS3 - 11/10/10. 1 model.
Fighter 145 points. Quad-ion turret, burst cannon, 2 seeker missiles. Can swap burst cannon for missile pod (+5 points). BS3 11/10/10. 1 model.
I can't see anything with regards to Pathfinder's unit entry. Did I miss something?

Heavy support -
Broadsides 65 points. Same stats as before, they come with TL heavy rail rifles and TL SMS out of the box. +10 points for Shas'vre (LD9). May swap TL heavy rail rifles for TL High Yield Missile Pods for free. May swap TL SMS for TL Plasma, +5 points per model. 1-3 models.
Hammerhead 125 points. BS4, 13/12/10. Comes with Railgun and 2 drones out of the box. Can upgrade railgun to have submunition charges (+5 points) and swap drones for either TL BC or TL SMS, both for free. This makes no sense to me as TL SMS is always better, but whatever. May swap railgun for ion cannon, may take up to two seeker missiles for +8 points each. 1 model.
Skyray 125 points. BS4, 13/12/10. 6 Seeker Missiles and 2 Networked Markerlights as well as 2 drones. May swap drones same as Hammerhead. 1 model.
Sniper Drones 13 points per controller, 15 points per drone. Controllers have markerlights and BS5, Drones have Long-ranged Pulse rifles. Stealth. Drones are T4, otherwise same stats as other drones. Entire unit is LD7. 1-3 controllers, 3-9 Drones.

Misc -
Iridium suit (XV8-02) gives +1T and 2+ AS.
There's some kind of special weapon/equipment which lets you trade all attacks in combat for one @S10, AP1. I suppose it's for commanders, though it makes very little sense to me.
Seeker Missiles may now be fired at the vehicle's base BS.
Entire army has supporting fire, i.e. they may aid an assaulted unit with overwatch.
We get 6 Warlord traits:
1. No LoS! against warlord's shooting
2. One use only, declare at start of turn. Warlord and friendly units within 12" may re-roll to hit rolls of 1 when shooting.
3. 3D6 Thruster move.
4. One use only. All friendly units can move, shoot and charge even if they have gone to ground.
5. One use only. Warlord + unit gains Skyfire.
6. Warlord and unit can make a perfect deep strike without error.
Shas'els have gone - all Tau commanders are just commanders, with a Shas'O stat
Targetting array has apparently gone for both vehicles and suits (Skyrays and Hammerheads have one built in)
Seeker missiles can fire using the firers BS, or BS5 if launched via a marker (and regardless of whether the unit with the seeker could fire it - running broadsides, fast moving tanks etc)
Drone controllers aren't required to have drones, but intead let them use your BS rather than their own
I've taken away the translated weapon stats as that might be getting a little close to copyright infringement for a round up on warseer:
Carbines and SMS get an additional shot, SMS gains 6" more range
Rail and Ion rifles get rapid fire
Fusion and Neutron blasters get 18"

igor · Post by **igor** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:23 am

Prvi utisci iz nove knjige:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/04/ ... eview.html

Ima jakooo lepih kombinacija, ako je verovati napisanom.

EIDT: LOL, citam nov codex, tj slike istog - i stvarno markerlightovi povecavaju BS za overwatch

okej hajde sada neko da charge - unit fire warriora koji pucaju 48 puta na 3/4+ s5 u overwatch...

Petar · Post by **Petar** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:55 pm

Forge World Open Day 2013 pictures:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1131330762 ... directlink

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:08 pm

igor wrote: EIDT: LOL, citam nov codex, tj slike istog - i stvarno markerlightovi povecavaju BS za overwatch
okej hajde sada neko da charge - unit fire warriora koji pucaju 48 puta na 3/4+ s5 u overwatch...

S obzirom da su Tau najubogija vojska u melee-u, moraju nesto da imaju kako bi kompenzovali.

Giga · Post by **Giga** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:38 pm

Ko da assault vec nije bio dovoljno slab u sestoj ediciji. :/

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:25 pm

Asault slab... yeah right.

Anyway, secate li se ovoga?

Ovo su fotke sa Forge World Open Day od ovog vikenda:

Pre heresy land speeder

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:37 am

Uskoro nova IA knjiga. Nove nekronske igracke! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSku1oKF ... e=youtu.be

igor · Post by **igor** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:34 pm

U piratski zaliv je uplivala kopitarska knjiga...

8-)

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:10 pm

Upravo prelistavam....Eldrad Ulthran + Aun'va = krv ti j***m.... 8O

EDIT : Iscitah do kraja.

Pros : Cela vojska moze glat da ima 36'' range sa svim oruzijima. Puca mnogo, puca jako, to sto imaju balistiku 3 bas i nema neke veze, kada melte imaju range 18'', a minimalna snaga pucanja je 5. Overwatch nije toliko strasan, ali boli svakako. Imaju mnogo HQ choicova...i svi su dobri, na svoj nacin. Svi spec. karakteri sluze necemu korisnom. Ethereali su sada bas dobri, mnogo toga daju za svoje poene. Sve je (naizgled) jeftinije, moze da se napravi horda bez ikakvih problema, koja reseta sve u 16. Sve na oko izgleda jeftino, ali kada se saberu svi upgrade-i, oruzija, raznorazne dzidza-bidze i ostalo sto dokupljujete, dolazi se do neke razumne i ne toliko preterane cene u poenima.Proucicemo detaljnije kada izadje army builder update, ovako sa papirom i olovkom je malo naporno.

Flyeri imaju armor 11/10/10 i ne idu na ap, nego na opaku kolicinu rana koju nanose. Vec vidim veoma opake kombinacije sa allies.

Cons : Najubogiji melee. Vecinski toughness 3 i save 4+. Krootovi sad imaju snagu 3, ali mogu se uzeti u uzasnim kolicinama, i jos mogu postati snajperisti za 1 poen po modelu. Osrednji leadership, osim ako iskoristite jedan HQ slot za Ethereala (bijednih 50 poena); onda svi u 12'' imaju stubborn na ld 10. Aun'va (koji kosta jos bijednijih 100 poena) jos i daje reroll toga. Toliko toga vidim za sad, morace ovo da se play-testira u skorije vreme, da vidimo kako i sta. Iskreno mislim da su Etherali sada previse dobri da se ne uzmu.

igor · Post by **igor** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:12 pm

Napisao si samo po meni neke nove bitne stvari.

Po meni sto je jos bitno:

0. Marketlights - kidaju koliko su dobri sada. Povecavaju BS za overwatch i snaps.
1. Overwatch je strasan. Ako uspes lepo da se postavis moze biti jako bolan. Postoji upgrade za HQ suit da ima BS 2 na overwatch
2. SVI suit imaju free upgrade (dolazi standardno) multi tracker - znaci u startu mogu da pucaju sa 2 oruzja.
3. Tenkovi mogu overwatch i support overwatch ako kupe upgrade..
4. Dronovi su generalno bolji.
5. Ubedjljivo najbolji anti air u igri. (mozda npr za etc necron/guard liste sa puno aviona)
6....Vise ne pise da ne mozes imati 2x isti wep kao sto je pisalo u proslom kodeksu, nego pise ovo: (Where a weapon has two points costs, the first is for a standard, single version, and the second is for two weapons (counting as a twin-linked weapon of that type). A twin-linked weapon counts as two choice from this list. Dal to znaci da npr. mogu dva puta da uzmem po plazmu za crysus suit 2x15p ili samo twin linked za 20p.. jer ovde se otvara zla kombinacija sa 7 crysis bodyguard koji pucaju 28 puta cim dodju...

Po meni zle kombinacije:

1. Farsight sa 7 guarda. Svaki guard ima plazmau (1/2/twin linked).
Ne bacaju scatter... pojave se na manje od 12 inca od tebe. 7 crysis bodyguard pucaju svaki 2x(shor range) = 14 pucanja s6 ap2... Ako bacis neki markerlight na unit koji pucas (2-4) pogadjace na 2+ i / ili nece imati cover save.
2. HQ suit sa dron kontroler - dronovi mogu koriste njegov BS - znaci on i 12-14 dronova sa bs5 s5 ap5 assault 2 18'' koji se krecu jump pack ili overkill pola njih da budu marker dronovi koji bacaju markerlight na 2+

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:37 am

Mada: A unit comprised entirely of drones is a non-scoring, nondenial unit. Drones do not have the Bulky special rule.

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:40 am

Jos samo da novi IA uplovi u piratski zaliv....:D

ZergLord · Post by **ZergLord** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:28 pm

igor wrote: 6....Vise ne pise da ne mozes imati 2x isti wep kao sto je pisalo u proslom kodeksu, nego pise ovo: (Where a weapon has two points costs, the first is for a standard, single version, and the second is for two weapons (counting as a twin-linked weapon of that type). A twin-linked weapon counts as two choice from this list. Dal to znaci da npr. mogu dva puta da uzmem po plazmu za crysus suit 2x15p ili samo twin linked za 20p.. jer ovde se otvara zla kombinacija sa 7 crysis bodyguard koji pucaju 28 puta cim dodju...

A kako mogu da pucaju vise od jednog oruzja? Ne mogu da uzmu Multi Tracker i nemaju specijalna pravila koja im to omogucava. Ili mozda postoji nacin za koji ne znam?

igor · Post by **igor** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:32 pm

ZergLord wrote:
igor wrote: 6....Vise ne pise da ne mozes imati 2x isti wep kao sto je pisalo u proslom kodeksu, nego pise ovo: (Where a weapon has two points costs, the first is for a standard, single version, and the second is for two weapons (counting as a twin-linked weapon of that type). A twin-linked weapon counts as two choice from this list. Dal to znaci da npr. mogu dva puta da uzmem po plazmu za crysus suit 2x15p ili samo twin linked za 20p.. jer ovde se otvara zla kombinacija sa 7 crysis bodyguard koji pucaju 28 puta cim dodju...
A kako mogu da pucaju vise od jednog oruzja? Ne mogu da uzmu Multi Tracker i nemaju specijalna pravila koja im to omogucava. Ili mozda postoji nacin za koji ne znam?

Svi suitovi stizu sa multi tracker sada + blacksun filters.

(Svi=stealth,crysis,broadside i riptide.)

Post by **Ota** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:51 am

Riptajd moze da puca sa tri ukoliko moze toliko da ih nakaci. On je Monster (puca sa dva) i ima pmenuti Multi Tracker.

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:42 am

Ota wrote:Riptajd moze da puca sa tri ukoliko moze toliko da ih nakaci. On je Monster (puca sa dva) i ima pmenuti Multi Tracker.

Mislim da on moze da ima max 2 oruzija, +2 drona ako mu dokupis za 25 poena svaki. Drone puca 2 puta snagom 7 ap 4. Nije naivno.

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:58 am

Drone puca 2 puta snagom 7 ap 4. Nije naivno.

Kojom balistikom?

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Balistikom 2, ali mislim da moze da dobije bonuse od Markerlightova. Ali drone ima toughness 6, save 2+ i ward 5+ (ili 4+ cak).

No 1 · Post by **No 1** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:12 pm

Zar nema običan sejv na 4+

igor · Post by **igor** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:04 pm

No 1 wrote:Zar nema običan sejv na 4+

Ima obican save na 4+ i inv na 4++

BS 2 nije strasna, i ovako to cudo ce retko pucati na nesto sto nema markerlight na sebi.

Inace riptide ne moze da ima vise od 2 oruzja nazalost.
Lepo je sto moze pored svega toga da nosi 2 support sistema

Npr networked markerlight, skyfire, interceptor, bs 2 u owerwatch (to + networked marker = radi support owerwatch prvo sa net. mark na 5+ ako prodje pogadja metu na 4+ sa npr burst cannon - ili nedaj boze burst cannon ako prodje 3+ pa 12 s6

)

Post by **deka** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:48 pm

A pošto ovo više nisu rumori, jerbo je knjiga izašla, da otvorite tauiđansku temu, da ne spamujete rumore

igor · Post by **igor** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:37 pm

Malo slika i pravila iz nove IA knjige:

http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2013/ ... tures.html

Domaci nekronci uzivajte. :D

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:48 pm

Cekamo da izdaju Apocalypse knjigu za 6. ediciju. Onda cemo svi da obrisemo prasinu sa svojih super-heavya.

Post by **deka** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:26 am

New Geydar's... First picture... Neki novi (kanda plastični) farseer...

Post by **Hypodermic** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:31 pm

jedan od naloga GW-a na fejsu i tviteru je postovao ovo danas. Ako pazljivo pogledate, ovo cudo je napravljeno od shrines of the aquila :D Da li ovo znaci da je Apoc definitivno tu za leto?

Ko, jel' ja? · Post by **Ko, jel' ja?** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:21 pm

For those of you coming to Legendary Battlefield: Cadia this weekend. you will see Phil Henderson's home made Emperor Class Titan.

Ovo je takođe pisalo uz tu sliku

Petar · Post by **Petar** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:32 pm

A ovde je WIP:

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/s ... tan-design

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Wed May 01, 2013 9:08 pm

Sledeci primarh u Horus Heresy seriji : Fulgrim

I Davinite Priest :

Kao i (navodni) raspored izdavanja za ovu godinu:

12/2/13 - apocalypse update pretty much guaranteed for summer release. Moved Lozards to a more reasonable release slot. Ive got Tau rumors all over the place but I would assume after Daemons they may go for a straight 40K release. When I know more I will inform you.

JAN: Dark Angels
FEB: WoC / flyer book rules
MAR: Daemons 1st wave (books/some models)
APR: Tau
MAY: HE
JUN: Eldar
JUL: 40k Apocalypse update
AUG: Lizardmen
SEP: Bloodbowl
OCT: Space Marines
NOV: Fantasy army release (likely DE)
DEC: Hobbit

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sat May 18, 2013 9:40 pm

Histericni Istoricar · Sat May 18, 2013 10:02 pm

http://battlebunnies.blogspot.be/2013/0 ... ls-in.html

Kor Phaeron i Erebus.

Post by **Mrzimsvee** » Sat May 18, 2013 10:52 pm

Steta sto nema slike Kor Phaerona, Fuhrer ce se razocarati.
Erebus je super model.

Histericni Istoricar · Sun May 19, 2013 3:26 pm

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthrea ... ost6773873

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sun May 19, 2013 4:30 pm

za one koji nemaju nalog na warseer-u:

Pendargon · Post by **Pendargon** » Sun May 19, 2013 5:04 pm

unutra, mali eldar place za svoji blizancem....

do i hear GHAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY???????? :lol: :lol:

PeraNekron · Post by **PeraNekron** » Sun May 19, 2013 5:05 pm

Jao, vidi! Jos jedan 50-funtas. :D

Inace, sto se tice poze (pogotovo polozaja prstiju):

Histericni Istoricar · Sun May 19, 2013 6:09 pm

http://www.3plusplus.net/2013/05/some-e ... #more-6909

Ha! Izlazi 8. 6. dodatak za kodeks. Mozda urade ovo i za Black templare i Salamandere.

Post by **Hypodermic** » Sun May 19, 2013 6:17 pm

Doticni dodatak je digital release only, i uglavnom je fluff i neke homemade rules. Za Salamandere bi se ocekivalo ovako nesto, ali ako ovo urade Black Templarima... ugh?

EDIT:
prica se po netu da je eldarsko novo cudo tricavih 70 (i recima, sedamdeset) funti. Ne pedeset, sedamdeset. 8O

Post by **Mrzimsvee** » Mon May 20, 2013 9:15 am

Posto sam dobio novi order form sa eldarima evo sta dobijaju novo, nazalost skoro nista:

Eldar Wraithknight svi ste videli sliku
Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter/ Crimson Hunter
Eldar Wraithguard/Wraithblades
Eldar Farseer svi ste videli sliku blistera
Eldar Dire Avengers, nisu novi samo su spakovani u box od 5 modela

Finecrap Illic Nightspear, Eldar Spiritseer(verovatno stari model)
i naravno kartice i codex i battle force(Contains 10 Eldar Guardians and a Heavy Weapon Platform, 5 Dire Avengers (including the option of making an Exarch), a Wave Serpent and a Vyper Jetbike)