Samo Independent Characters imaju Precision Strike.
Inace:
Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds
from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within
range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e.
half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half
are not)? (p15)
A: No.
Kad malo bolje razmislis, nije suprotno, samo je lektor GW-a izgleda dao otkaz :P (sto dokazuju i automatic-FAQ cim izadje novi kodeks jer su imali stamparske greske, lol). Mislim, sama recenica u rulebooku je jako dvosmislena, prvo kaze "ako model nije bio u dometu" a onda kaze "cak i ako sada nije u dometu" (predpostavljam da se mislilo zbog oruzja razlicitog dometa iz iste jedinice koja gadja, ali naravno to nisu napisali u originalnom rulebooku).
Ako se dobro secam svi smo igrali po ovom new FAQ tumacenju cim je izasao rulebook, a onda nas je neko sa neta ispravio. Sad, opet na staro.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Hypodermic wrote:Ako se dobro secam svi smo igrali po ovom new FAQ tumacenju cim je izasao rulebook
Zapravo i nismo. FAQ kaze:
Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds
from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within
range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e.
half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half
are not)? (p15)
A: No.
Kljucni deo je "any of the shooting models". Znaci ne mozete da alocirate rane na protivnicke modele koji nisu u dometu bilo kog modela koji puca na njih. Sad dolazite u situacije da mozete vise da ubijete nego sto biste mogli zato sto jedno oruzje u unitu ima duzi domet od ostalog. Na primer:
-Stoji 5 Marinaca ispred 10 Kultista. Marinci su jedva u 24" od Kultista. U dometu im je samo 1 kultista, i mogu da ubiju samo njega.
-Stoji 6 Marinaca, 5 sa bolterima i jedan sa Lascannonom ispred 10 Kultista. Marinci su jedva u 24" od Kultista. Sad mogu da ubiju vise od jednog Kultiste zato sto je Lascannon svima njima u dometu.
Imbecilno. Da nisu napisali "any" onda bi smo igrali kao na pocetku edicije.
zerg, procitaj ostatak recenice koju si quote-ovao. Igrali smo ovako... nekih 6 dana od izlaska rulebooka letos. Onda nas je neko ispravio.
Da ne spominjem da je "ispravljena" varijanta bila:
-stoji 5 marinaca naspram 10 kultista, svih pet marinaca ima domet do 1 kultiste. Svih 10 kultista zagine od boltera.
Ili sam ja nesto pogresno shvatio od pocetka? Posto je prvo bilo kao sto je sada faq-ovano, pa smo onda krenuli da igramo (igramo? ili igram?) da ako je makar jedan model u dometu svi su u dometu. I to mi je cak dule (valjda? pricali smo zajedno u klubu?) rekao da je tako ok jer je bilo pitanje postavljeno vec na farseeru jer nije bilo u FAQ-u tada, i svi su rekli da ako ga vidis, nema veze sto na pocetku shootinga nije bio u dometu.
Mislim, ako sam ispao glup, jbga, ispao sam glup, izvinjavam se ako je u igranju samnom bila ova situacija :/
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Pa onda bi trebalo da vazi da treba da roluje samo onaj koji moze da ih pogodi, u gornjem slucaju marinac sa Lascannonom.
Problem je samo oko izbora koga marinac pogadja, jer se bese moze izabrati meta a ne moze se pomerati rana?
United we stand!!!
Enemies of Man, fear our wrath!!!
Boco, prvo smo igrali da ako model nije u dometu nekog oruzja on ne moze da umre.
Pa kad smo posle shvatili da to nigde ne pise u knjizi igrali smo da ako je bar jedan model u dometu, svi modeli mogu da zaginu.
Sad je izasao FAQ, i po njemu ako je model u dometu bilo kog oruzja, on moze da zagine.
Ako imas unit sa oruzjima istog dometa onda je to isto kao sto smo igrali na pocetku. Medjutim ako tu imas recimo jedan Heavy Weapon od 36" koji ima duzi domet od ostalih oruzja, taj unit moze da ubije vise nego kad bi mogao bez HW-a jer HW ima veci domet i moze da zahvata vise modela. A potrebno je da model bude u dometu bar jednog oruzja da bi mogla da se alocira rana na njega.
EDIT:
Gresim. Sad gledam pravila za shooting i kada pucate vi bacate kockice za To Hit i To Wound i stvarate Wound pool. Onda se vrsi alokacija rana, i ako imate oruzja sa razlicitim Str i AP vi morate da napravite grupe Wound Pool-ova i odradjujete alokaciju sa svakom grupom posebno. Tako da na osnovu toga, moje tumacenje pravila odozgo ne vazi.
Zahvaljujem za objasnjenje u "Edit" delu. Nije ono na sta sam mislio, ali to znaci da sam i ja pogresno procitao i ovo je definitivno razjasnjenje. Hvala.
EDIT:
Samo sto nigde ne pise da moras da zavrsis sa jednim tipom rana pre nego sto krenes na drugi... :/ Samo pise da ih treba drzati odvojeno u wound poll-u.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Sto se onda krsi sa stranom 16, gde kaze da ako sad nisu u dometu a bili su, i dalje mogu da zaginu. Tako da se vracamo na tvoje originalno tumacenje da 6 marinaca sa jednim HBolterom i cultistima na 23" moze da ubije sve kultiste jer su svi bili u dometu HBoltera.
Da ne presipamo dalje iz supljeg u prazno, videcemo se iovako u subotu u klubu.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Page 32 - Warlord Traits
Replace the introductory paragraph with:
When generating Warlord Traits, a Tau Warlord may either roll
on one of the Warlord Traits tables in the Warhammer 40,000
rulebook, or roll on the table presented on the right.
Page 95 - Drones list
Add the following note to Missile Drones
* May only be taken by models equipped with Broadside
battlesuits.
Da li se Grand Strategy stackuje, tj. da li dva grand mastera daju specijalna pravila 2xd3 unita? jasno je da jedna jedinica ne moze da ima dve uloge iz faq-a...
Da li se Aegis stackuje ako protivnicki psajker targetuje vise jedinica sa ovim pravilom?
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss. Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Da li se Grand Strategy stackuje, tj. da li dva grand mastera daju specijalna pravila 2xd3 unita? jasno je da jedna jedinica ne moze da ima dve uloge iz faq-a...
Da li se Aegis stackuje ako protivnicki psajker targetuje vise jedinica sa ovim pravilom?
1. Da
2. Ovo pitanje je zaguljeno. U novijim codexima pa cak i u nekim starijim od ovog (gej Knight) pise da se neke stvari ne stakuju ili se stakuju.
Takodje u BRB-u pise da se ne stakuju isti special rules osim ako ne pise supratno. Mislim da je odgovor na ovo pitanje ne ali moguce je da gresim.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
- da li unit BEZ marka moze u sebi da ima vise karaktera razlicitih markova?
Pravila kazu:
- A model or unit may only purchase one Mark of Chaos.
Dakle, ok, ne mozes kupiti multiple markove na nekom modelu
I:
- An Independent Character with a Mark of Chaos may not join a unit with a different Mark of Chaos. When a Mark of Chaos is listed in a unit's special rules, its effects will have already been taken into account in its profile, where applicable.
Dakle, ok, ne mozes karaktera sa mark of nurgle da stavis u unit sa mark of khorne. Istog tog karaktera mozes da stavis u unit bez marka.
Medjutim ja ne uspavam da nadjem nesto sto sprecava kornovca i nurgleovca da budu zajedno u unitu bez marka? Pomoc neko?
Nije da je mnogo bitno, ali ne bih voleo da naletim na iznenadjenje.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Rule-regarding, UNIT nema mark, vec samo IC. Tako da dva IC-a mogu da se pridruze unitu bez marka, po mom slobodnom tumacenju. Pod pitanje, da ne otvaram knjigu - da li se mark of whatever prenosi sa IC-a na unit kojem je pridruzen? Mislim na efekte. Ako da, onda moje tumacenje pada u vodu.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:- da li unit BEZ marka moze u sebi da ima vise karaktera razlicitih markova?
Medjutim ja ne uspavam da nadjem nesto sto sprecava kornovca i nurgleovca da budu zajedno u unitu bez marka?
Tacno, mozes da stavis bilo kakvog karaktera u unit bez marka. Ako je unit markovan, onda moze da im se pridruzi samo karakter sa njihovim markom ili bez marka (izuzetak je Abadon).
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
Woohoo, ETC FAQ ce opet morati da se preradjuje (mozda), jer sada lepo naglasavaju da wounds od blast i large blast mogu da idu na sve modele, irrelevant of line of sight.
woohoo 2, vehicles cannot use gun emplacement :D
WOW, swarmovi vise ne ginu dve baze ako jedna popije instant death od blast/template oruzja.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Izasli novi FAQovi za sve vojske. Meni je ovo zapalo za oko, sto se tice nekrona :
Q: Can enemy Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous
Creatures be hit by Imotekh the Stormlord’s ‘Lord of the Storm’ special
rule? (p55)
A: Yes.
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
Q: What counts as a Daemon? (p21)
A: Everything in the Chaos Daemons codex (except for Chaos
Spawn), Daemon Princes, Possessed Chaos Space Marines, Obliterators, summoned greater Daemons, summoned lesser
Daemons, any vehicle with the daemonic possesion upgrade,
Daemonhosts, Mandrakes, Kheradruakh the Decapitator, the
Avatar.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss. Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
pa sa Nenadom... igrali smo scouring misiju, standardni diplojment, kod mene su bili 4 i 2, kod njega dve 3, i na sredini 1 i 2... sve u svemu on je dobio 8-5. jako teska partija, i za mene i za njega.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss. Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
ako jokaero weaponsmith dobije da svi imaju +1 armor save, da li coteaz dobija 1+ posto vec ima 2+, i time recimo postaje imun na plazmu?
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
Negde u osnovnoj knjizi pise (valjda) da armor save ne moze da se poboljsa bolje od 2+
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
mislim da ne razumete sta pita - sejv se svakako pada na jedan, ali da li ima armor sejv, obzirom da je armor 1+i da je plazma ap2 .. a ja ne znam odgovor.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss. Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
razumem sta pita, i odgovor je da ne moze da padne na 1+, tj da uvek ostaje na 2+, i kao takvog ga plazma uvek negira. Nesporno je da je 1 uvek fail na rolu, ali pored tog pravila u main rulebooku pise da armor save ne moze biti bolji od 2+ (as in, ne moze biti 1+ ili 0+ kao u fantasy). Strana 2, characteristics, armour saves.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
Mislim da cak i za fantasy sada pise da ne moze biti bolji od 1+.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
jel termosi mogu da charge-ujeu i counter charg-uju sa pucanjem heavy weapon-a?
jel vukovski rune priest sa runic weapon-om ponistava na 4+ sve carolije koje se bacaju 24"" od njega (ne mora na njega)
Zamisli sistem u kom se pravila ne menjaju svake dve godine.
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice. Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
Bata Bole wrote:jel termosi mogu da charge-ujeu i counter charg-uju sa pucanjem heavy weapon-a?
jel vukovski rune priest sa runic weapon-om ponistava na 4+ sve carolije koje se bacaju 24"" od njega (ne mora na njega)
Da.
Da.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Megabaja wrote:terminatori mogu uvek da assaultuju, jer imaju relentless pravilo.
rune priest nema vise psychic hood po tim pravilima.
Hmm PO FAQ -u za vukove to jos radi...runic weapon dispeluje svaki bačen power na 4+ na 24"...i to saki spell, ne samo spell bačen na runeprista
Gde grešim?
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Zamisli sistem u kom se pravila ne menjaju svake dve godine.
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice. Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
znaci, droppodovi $$$, termosi sa missle launcherima $$$, vukojahaci $$$, jos grey huntera $$$...ode zimovanje u 3 p.m. )
Zamisli sistem u kom se pravila ne menjaju svake dve godine.
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice. Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u