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Pa skoro nikakav...

U svojoj sledećoj movement fazi moraš da ih dovedeš u koherenciju...

I onda ne mogu da pucaju heavy oružjima... Eto, to ti je penalty...
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penala nema, sem tog da u sledecem tvom krugu moras da probas da se ponovo vratis u koherenciju. Naravno, svi modeli se racunaju kao da su se kretali, pa to uzrokuje pojedine penale.
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Hvala ljudi :). Samo jos jedna stvar. Kada ih dovedem u koherenciju ( situacija je da imam 3 modela od koji 1 nisam pomerao ) u fazi pucanja taj model sto nije pomeran i dalje ima domet 24" ( primer je Space Marine Bolter ) a ovi sto su se pomerali imaju 12"?
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Kada pomeriš bilo koji model računa se ceo unit kretao...
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Prvo pitanje vezano za GK codex :)

Sta biva ako henchmen unit ima 6 ili vise Jokaeora u sebi? Kako to utice na bacanje na njihovoj tabeli?
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Sjebe ti tabelu i ne dobijes nista... (jer si dobio 6, pa onda bacio jos dva puta i oba puta dobio 6). Smatraj da majmuni trce okolo i ulepsavaju stvari i bave se majmunskim poslovima (jedu banane i generalno su zaokupljeni sobom) da bi obracali paznju na inkvizitora i ostale prasinare.
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Nije bas pocetnicko pitanje, ali evo jednog :

Citat iz GK codexa, vezano za Exitus oruzije, Shield-Breaker municija :
A model hit by a Shield-breaker round takes no damage, but instead loses any Invulnerable saves granted by items or wargear for the rest of the battle.
E sad....ovaj hitac ukida storm shield, iron halo, itd itd, sve je to cool....ali da li ukida "urodjeni" inv. save? Tipa demonski save, zoanthrope save, C'tan save, itd itd? Posto pise da ukida samo save koji se dobija wargearom/itemima, ne onaj koji ti rodi mama/udeli bog/mnogo-sam-bahat-pa-ga-imam?
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Vidis, lepo pitanje...
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
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Mislim da ne. Lepo pise da ukida samo Inv. Save-ove dobijene od Item-a i Wargear-a.
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Ne bi trebao da ukida "urodjene" save-ove, prosto zato sto uglavnom nisu klasifikovani kao posledica wargeara/itema, vec special rule-a. Primera radi, Lysanderu pise da od wargeara ima storm shield, i to Vindicare ukida bez problema. Da mu pise nesto tipa "Lysander is blessed with godlike resilience, and as a result he has a 3+ invulnerable save", ne bi mogao da ga ukine. Ovako ja vidim stvari, barem..
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Cak ni zoantrope save nije urodjen - dobijen je psihickom moci koju zoantrope imaju. Slazem se sa Perom ovde, urodjene ne bi trebalo da negira, ali sta sa onima koji nastanu od psycic powers? to nije ni item ni wargear...
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Sta nije jasno : Ako imas negde u kodeksu : model xy ima spravu/gedzet/magicni stuff koji mu daje ward na x+, vindicare ga upuca pravo u spravu/gedzet/magicni stuff i on prestane da radi. Ako iams u kodeksu" ja sam veliki baja i mnogo sam tough i zbog toga imam inv. save na x+" na to ne radi...

Pravo pitanje je, moze li da ubije predmete koji daju ward protiv odredjenih stvari? Na primer :" karakter x ima inv save protiv psy powera na 2+" (a inace nema inv save)?
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Warp field je uvek aktivni psychic power, a ne item/wargear. Stoga (verovatno) ne bi trebalo da moze da ti ukine to.

@Pendargon : moze, posto kaze da
... loses any Invulnerable saves granted by items or wargear for the rest of the battle.
. Naravno, pod uslovom da ima koplje i carobni kalpak koji mu daju taj save, a ne da ga ima jer mu rodila mama zbog pravilne ishrane. ;)

EDIT : Evo ovako : Otvorite svoj codex, i pregledajte svoj wargear/biomorph/item/arcane wargear/stagod da imate sekciju. SVE sto moze da se kupi, ili ima opis sta radi, a na kraju daje inv.save, to vindicare assassin moze da ukine.

@Hypodermic - Pise ti u rosteru, Warp Field je special rule. Ne moze to da ti ukine. ;)
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Znači nobovi i Gazgul ipak zadržavaju svoj inv sejv, jer oni ga dobijaju iz čistog verovanja u sebe :lol:
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Ne bas. Nobovi mogu da izgube zato sto cybork bodies wargear daje +5 inv. ;) Ali nece vindicare pucati u jednog noba da mu skine save, nego ce probati da raznese neki transport, mada ne znam sta vindicare moze tacno da uradi protiv orkova, osim da gadja power klaw nobove, hq baje ili transporte...Ghazghkull gubi 5+ inv. save od cybork bodies, ali nece moci da izgubi onaj privremeni 2+ save. ;)
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Da, da, sad pogledah, ipak nobovi gube sejv a Gazgul ne gubi jedino onaj privremeni, ali opet i to je nesto.
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Opet ja, sa svojim dosadnim pitanjima :) :

Vindicare puca Turbo-Penetrator municijom u vozilo. Da li baca 4d6 na suvo za penetration, ili (posto Exitus rifle/pistol ima sniper u opisu), baca 3 + 4d6, i svaka sestica se racuna kao rending?
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Exitus je snajper po opisu, a u knjizi pise da snajperi imaju snagu 3 kada pucaju na vozilo, tako da 3+4d6. E sad, za multiple rending ne bih znao, ali pretpostavljam da ne (ne znam kako bi se to sabiralo). Tako da bih rekao, jedna kocka koja je 6 moze da se baci ponovo po rending pravilima.
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So, once again, GW strikes with...poor wording. :D
..If fired at a vehicle the shot has an Armour Penetration of 4d6.
Codex takes precedence blablabla...tako da....mislim da je vreme da cekamo FAQ. :)
I mogli bi da apdejtuju faq za necrone, vise ni sam ne znam sta je "extra armour penetration dice"....
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Ako vazi da je 3+4d6 i da je svaka sestica rending, radi isto kao i za monstrous creatures sa rending napadom:
dodaje d3 za svaku bacenu sesticu (nije da mu treba...)
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jedno pitanjce....wazzdaka gutzmek kaze da warbiker mobovi postaju trupe....da li to vazi i za nob warbikere?
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Ne.
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"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
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"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Ali zato bilo koji warboss čini čak i nob bikere trupama.
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hvala, ovo za warbosa, naravno znam :P
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vezano za psihicke moci:
ako neko moze da koristi moc i u protivnikovom i u svom krugu, jel moze samo jednom da je koristi al da bira kad ili moze oba puta (pise once per turn).

grey knight: vindicare assassin ima municiju 4d6 armor penetration protiv vozila. Da li to radi na piramidu?
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za prvo monolith kaze weapons wich get aditional ap dice dont ali vindicare'ova puska ima egzaktni dmg 4d6 baziran na municiji jer sama puska ne cini dmg vec municija tako da bih rekao da posto je to wargear ali mozda gresim :roll:

Ako je Grey knight Psihic lvl 1 onda po jedan power use u tvom i protivnickom turnu a svi psikeri GN lvl'a2 2 u oba librarian ako je upgraded cak 3 :wink:
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joggy wrote:vezano za psihicke moci:
ako neko moze da koristi moc i u protivnikovom i u svom krugu, jel moze samo jednom da je koristi al da bira kad ili moze oba puta (pise once per turn).

grey knight: vindicare assassin ima municiju 4d6 armor penetration protiv vozila. Da li to radi na piramidu?
1- Moze u oba kruga (i u svom i protivnickom). To je players turn, inace bi pisalo game turn.
2- to niko ne zna, cak mislim ni ljudi koji su pisali knjigu, u starom dobrom gw maniru :lol: :lol: :lol: . Cak nije sigurno da li je 3 +4d6 (posto je puska sniper, koji inace protiv vozila gadaju 3+d6), ili sirovih 4d6 (ja naginjem prvoj interpretaciji). A posto je wording piramide u nekronskom kodeksu debelo outdated, to zaista, zaista niko ne zna...(mada bi moj refleks bio - ne radi) :wink:
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Znaci, razjasnjavanja radi: nurgle winged demon prince sa warptime moze da baca u oba kruga re-roll to hit i to wound (sto u zivotu nisam koristio)?

Takodje, samo provere radi, marinci bez pise, kada koriste svoj they shall know no fear, mogu da ignorisu samo to sto su ispod pola, ali ne i neprijatelja u 6"? Prakticno - ako sletis u 6" od njih mogu samo da nastave da beze (jer vaze sva ostala pravila za bezanje)?

Odakle skidate data file za AB2 za 40k? Zena mi je unistila stari hard, te vise nemam AB3, a u AB2 nista ne valja (pocevsi od poentaze, lose dozvole ko sta moze i ne moze da nosi, itd.)?
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1 - da, ('cause it's awesome) :-D
2 - da, jer nemaju pise 8-)
ab2 je umro, ja licno racunam na papiru, uz kodeks, tako mi je sigurno da sam dobro sracunao :-D
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Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.

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E jebote, iznerviracu se od toga za koliko stvari pronadjem da su me djidali, i na kraju cu procitati sva pravila :D (cim odem u penziju, obecavam :P).

Hvala za link, provericu nocas kad dodjem kuci.

I jos jedno pitanje pred turnir: znam da je bio neki catch sa tim warptime i stvarima koje imaju armor - kako to tacno bese radi? Jel protiv armora ne mogu da radim re-roll to hit / to wound ili mogu (S6 + 2d6)?
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I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ne mozes. RR to hit samo protiv vozila sa WS, a to wound samo protiv modela sa T karakteristikom.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
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"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
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"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Upravo sam dobio info da je data file koji imam za ab2 skinut upravo sa ovog linka koji je #1 dao.

Znaci da znaju samo svi koji eventualno prave liste za CSM - taj data file nista ne valja, jedinice su dosta jeftinije u AB nego sto bi trebale da budu, plus pravila nisu ispracena (limiti koja "specijalna" oruzja mogu da idu gde).

Za turnir cu videti, kad se odlucim za konacnu listu, ili da zamolim nekog ponosnog vlasnika AB3 da mi odstampa listu, ili da je prezentiram lepo sredjenu u excelu, nekoliko dana ranije, da moze da se proveri validnost.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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citao sam nesto vezano za vozila,tipa ako se stavi rhino da bude okrenut stranom ka neprijatelju i onda dodje moj potez za pomeranje da li je dozvoljeno da ga prvo zarotiram pa idem 12 posto se u tom slucaju dobije 1,5 inch
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Pivot on the spot se ne računa u kretanje...
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Ako to radis legalno, zapravo dobijes negde malo manje od inca (zato sto rino pivotuje oko centralne tacke celog vozila, a ne centralne tacke duze strane), ali da, to mozes da uradis...
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stormraven moze da nosi dreku i usput je assault vozilo. To znaci da i dreka moze da assaultuje kad se iskrca?

Ako padnes ld za jednu magiju a recimo imas dve, jel mozes da probas drugu il samo jednu (u smislu grey knightova ako imas mastery 1)?

Zasto bi neko uzimao extra armor za 15 poena u grey knights codexu kad sva vozila imaju fortitude. Jel nesto propustam?
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Da, samo jedan attempt imas, i nemam pojma.
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joggy wrote:Zasto bi neko uzimao extra armor za 15 poena u grey knights codexu kad sva vozila imaju fortitude. Jel nesto propustam?
Ako ti ne uspe fortitude?
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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nastavimo dalje:

1. Ako su modeli embarkovani da li mogu da koriste magije koje imaju area effect (recimo warp quake ili sanctuary). Ako da, da li se meri od svih ivica vozila ili kako?

2. a) Da li independent character koji se vozi sa jedinicom u vozilu moze recimo da napusti vozilo a jedinica da ostane. b) ako se nije kretalo vozilo, da li moze da assaultuje on na jednu metu, a jedinica na drugu pod uslovom da se svi iskrcaju ali da se odvoje? c) ako moze da izadje na pocetku, jel moze jedinica da nastavi da se vozi (ode 12"), a on da assaultuje. d) ako je vozilo assault vehicle da li moze on da izadje, vozilo da se pomeri i iskrca jedinicu 12" dalje, i onda da nezavisno assaultuju.

3. Stormraven: pise da ako se on ubije a nosi dreku, dreka popije S4 hit u ledja. Ako se kretao flat out i bude unisten, da li je dreka unisten zbog osnovnog pravila, ili i dalje samo popije hit S4 (dreka se vodi pod transport capacity).
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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