Jos Rumora!

[Histericni Istoricar]

Ne vide se fotke Dule.

[hindza]

Vide se ako si registrovan na BOLS :S

[Hypodermic]

cek, stani, to su force weapons... a power weapons? i sta je unwieldly? -1i ili i=1?

[Mrzimsvee]

[hindza]

cek, stani, to su force weapons... a power weapons? i sta je unwieldly? -1i ili i=1?

Koliko sam do sada video u leaked informacija, unwieldly je I: 1. Powerfistovi su unwieldly...

[Hypodermic]

Ako su i power axes Unwieldy, onda mi jos odgovara sto imam sve maceve. Sta vise, Dante iako nosi sekiru, posto su "specijalna pravila" kao sto pise ovde, verovatno se tretira kao obican ap3 power weapon (Sword). Ali to ce potvrditi u appendix-u/faq-u ili cemu vec.

Znaci terminatori su jos tezi za ubiti... Interesting.

[Histericni Istoricar]

Nego pitam se da li ima i power koplje? Ma sta god i Vulkancic ce imati sikiru.

[milosh]

Znaci terminatori su jos tezi za ubiti... Interesting.

Koliko ja vidim stari dobri power klaws ih podjednako dobro lisavaju zivota

[PeraNekron]

Ja i dalje mislim da je najbolji lek za terminatore jedan solidan rapid fire iz neposredne blizine.

[Hypodermic]

Nego pitam se da li ima i power koplje? Ma sta god i Vulkancic ce imati sikiru.

Pre se plasim da ces dobiti power staff koji je ap4 >.< Nadam se da ce biti eratovano, posto bre ovo ima previse mesta za muljanje.

A sto se power klaw tice, pa bice na isto, posto ni on ni PF nisu (nadam se) menjali u pravilima. Fala bogu pa svi jump sargeovi imaju PF.

Cekam da vidim da li ce Monstrous Creature strike biti ap3 ili ap2...

[Hypodermic]

Okej, dobih neke podatke od momka koji radi u skladistu

"power weapon" vise nije osobina oruzja, samo naziv.
Unwieldly daje I=1
Shredding ili kako vec daje re-roll na to-wound
Specialised daje.... da dopunjuje druga oruzja. Izgleda ce LC moci da dodaju napade PF-u i/ili TH-u, ali to mi nije 100% potvrdio, kao i da li specialised also daje Unwieldly - LC inicijative 1... joj.

Winged MC mogu da lete (kao sto je vec pisano u rumorima svuda) ali mogu i da se krecu kao jump infantry ako zele.


A sad, biser:
Nekronski Flyer u appendixu nema HOVER pravilo. Da li je typo ili momak nije lepo video, ne znam, ali kako isti moze da nosi jedinicu neceg vec, ovo postaje problem jer ne mogu nikada da izadju.




EDIT:
Fleet dozvoljava da re-rollujete jednu ILI obe kockice prilikom assaulta. Toliko o "random" assaultu za sve bitne unite. Hello 18" charging orks...

[Mrzimsvee]

MORALE CHECKS: same as 5th edition, forced at 25% shooting casualty's or by losing combat. also when losing combat you get a -1 modifier to your leader ship by however many wounds you lost by.

YOU MAY REGROUP IF 25% OF THE UNIT OR MORE IS STILL ALIVE

TERRAIN:

lots here, first.

BUILDING DAMAGE TABLE (D6 EFFECT)

1 - building breached it suffers -1 to armour on all facings.
2 - tremor - the building shudders making units inside only able to sanp fire for the following turn, additionally if they try to disembark from the building they may only disembark 3 inches rather then the normal 6.
3- partial collapse - the unit suffers d6 s6 ap- hits with no cover saves allowed.
4- structural collapse - same effect as above except 2d6 hits instead of just 1d6
5- catastrophice breach - reduce the building armour value by d3 on all sides
6 - the unit takes 4d6 s6 ap- hits, has to make an emergency disembark, if the unit cannot disembark it is destroyed. the building is classed as a ruin.
7- the building is utterly destroyed, the unit inside suffer 4d6 s6 hits with no ap, they then must emergency disembark as above, if they cant they die ect. and the building is treated as impassable terrain for the rest of the game, also any unit within d6 suffers s4 ap- hits, the amount of hits is how many models are in the unit that is hit 'OUCH'

BATTLEFIELD DEBRIE

amunition dumps - any unit withing 2 inches is allowed to reroll failed to hit rolls with shooting.
barricades and walls - 4+ cover save if they are behind it.
comms relay - any player with an unengaded model within 2 inches of a comms relay can reroll reserve rolls, it also offers a 5+ cover save if your behind it
defence lines- any unit that goes to ground behind defence lines gains +2 to cover instead of the usual +1

there is another 10+ to many to list.

FORTIFICATIONS YOU MAY PURCHASE AS PART OF YOUR FOC

skyshield landing pad - 75 points
eagies defence lines - 50 points + weapons
imperial bastion - 75 points + weapons
fortress of redemption - 220 points + weapons

THAT IS IT, sorry xenos players. though you could make your own buildings and just use the above fortifications rules.

PSYCHIC POWERS

3 types, blessings, malediction, and conjuration.
lots here will come back to it once iv read through it

FLYERS

zooming, must move 18'' - 36'', if it moves under 18 it is counted as destroyed, any units shooting at a zooming flyer have to resolve there to hit rolls as snap shots. flyers cannot be tank shocked OR tank shock themselves. you have to be zooming with a flier to gain the 'jink' special rules (5+ cover save)

ZOOMING FLYERS CANNOT BE ASSAULTED :O op much

flyers may only shoot 2 missiles per turn, looking at you storm ravens

flyers MUST begin the game in reserve


JUMP PACKS AND JET PACKS

both count your models as having the bulky special rule.

jet packs move 2d6 in the assault phase instead of assaulting (if you wish)

jetpacks count as relentless

SPECIAL RULES

acute senses - reroll outflank rolls
and they shall know no fear - as 5th edition for marines
armourbane - 2d6 armour pen in close combat against vehicles
blind - any unit hit buy a model or unit with this special rule must take an initiative test. if it fails they are reduced to ws and bs 1 till there next turn.
eternal warrior - same as 5th
daemon - gains the fear rule and has a 5+ invuln
fear - if in base contact with a unit or model with fear you must take a morale check, if failed reduces the opponents weaponskill to 1 for the rest of the tunr
fearess - as it is in 5th
feel no pain - +5
fleet - reroll run and charge move distnaces
fleshbane - always wounds on 2+ in CC
crusader- adds d3 to sweaping andvance move and rolls an extra diece for running allowing you to choose the highest result
furious charge - recieves +1 strength when charging into close combat, if disorderly charged you gain no benefit
gets hot - same as 5th
hammer of wrath - when the model charges into base contact, it gains one attack at initiative 10 (strength is unmodified)
jink - if a model moves flat out or turbo boosts it gains a 4+ cover save till the end of your opponents turn
monster hunter - rerolls all failed to wound and hit rolls against monstrous creatures
it will not die - roll a d6 on a 5+ the model ragains one wound (rolled for at the end of your turn)
POISONED - SAME AS 5TH
rage - +2 attacks for charging
shred - rerolls cc to wound in combat
shrouded - + 2 to cover save
skilled rider - +1 to jink save
relentless - same as 5th
night vision - ignore the effects of nightfighting
night fighting - same as 5th
smash - reroll armour pen rolls, half attacks, gains double strength, ap 2
slow and purposeful - same as 5th
skyfire - shoots at nomral bs when targeting, flyers, skimmers, and flyig monstrous creatures.
splitfire - leadership test, if passed, one model may shoot at a different target to the rest of the unit

theres a few more but im tired of typing these

NIGHT FIGHTING

while night fighting rules are in effect, the distance to your target becomes very important - the darkness makes it very difficult to aquire distant targets. the shooting unit cannot pick a target 36''+ away. units between 24 and 36'' are counted as having shrouding special rule, units between 12-24 away are instead treated as having the stealth USR, units less then 12'' away can be shot at nomrally. for the purposes of scattering blast markers, a unit over 36'' away can still be hit if it scatters from the targetted unit onto them.

VEHICLES AND ASSAULT
if a vehicle loses the combat nothing happens, no sweeping advances, pile ins and no consolidation moves are performed.

POWER WEAPONS

If a power weapon just says power weapon and has no addtional rules, use the following:

maces, and blunt weapons count as power maul
spears, lances count as power lance
swords count as power swords
axes and halberds count as power axes

power sword - S user, ap 3, melee
power axe - S+1, AP 2 melee, unwieldly
power lance - S+1/user AP3/4, melee
power maul - S+2, AP4, melee

power lance has 2 profiles, first being on the charge second being i normal combat.

ALLIES
BATTLE BROTHERS
allied independant characters may join your units and vice versa
are counted as freindly units for the intents and purposes of psychich powers aand abilities and so on
CANNOT embark into each others vehicles

GREY KNIGHTS COUNT AS UNUSUAL WEAPONS

grey knights force weapons for example benefit from there own statline rather then the rulebook force/power weapons. if it has a statline or special rule in the codex it is counted as AP 3 and follows the codex rules for the weapon, This comes under the rule unusual force weapons in the rulebook

WHY TYRANIDS WILL BE BETTER?

Because they have so many monstrous creatures. all monstrous creatures have the fear rule now which means everytime they assault a unit that unit must take a leadership test, if it fails that unit has ws1 for the rest of the combat. fearless units and units that dont have to take leadership tests are immune to fear.

psykers, new psycic powers.... nuff said.

they also have hammer of wrath, move through cover, relentless and smash special rules.

your nid monstrosities are now fairly good in the game, there main buffs i beleive will be in the FAQ they should be playable again.

CHAINSWORD AP

chanswords have an AP of - and use your own strength
heavy chanswords s+2, ap5, two handed
eviscerator sx2 ap2, two handed, armourbane, unweildly

INSTANT DEATH

instant death is the same as 5th edition 'the model is immune to to instant death'.

TURBOBOOST

turbo boosting is done in the shooting phase.

bike - 12 inches
jetbike - 24 inches

you cannot shoot or assault after turbo boosting but you gain +1 to you jink save (making it 4+)

NIGHT VISION

AGAIN please read the second and third pages, night vision special rule allows you to ignore night fighting rules all together

BEASTS AND CAVALRY

cavalry have hammer of wrath and fleet
beast have move through cover and fleet

cavalry fall back 3d6
beasts fall back 3d6

beasts are never slowed by difficult terrain
cavalry take dangerous terrain tests when moving through difficult

all assault 2d6 range
WYCHBLADES

s user, ap -, melee, armourbane, fleshbane

PSYCHIHC POWERS

you choose a discipline that is available to your codex and roll d6 and see which power you generate. you get one power per psycker mastery level on the character.

to use a power each turn you generate a token for each mastery level you have, so a psyker with lvl 3 will have 3 tokens. the power then expends a token to attempt to cast it. you also use tokens to attempt to activate force weapons.

[Mrzimsvee]

ok so pyschic powers
biomancy
primary power is a basic smite

caster gets D3 str and toughness
target unit get -1 str and toughness - Rad grenades for everyone!
target unit get FNP
assault 2 every unsaved would heals one off caster
pysker get +d3 init
target makes toughness test or take 1 wound no save, if slain jumps to model with in 2' and make save. continue till someone saves or no targets left - Argh! Virus bombs!


divination
primary target unit rerolls failed hits - Eldar guide power now for everyone!
psycher and unit gain counter attack and get full BS for overwatch
target unit gain 4++
target unit must reroll passed armor saves - Inverse Fortune? Could be good!
psycher and unit ignore cover - Good against dug in units...or fast vehicles
psyker rerolls failed failed hits, wounds and armor saves - And Eldar fortune+
psyker roll 3 dicechoose the result you want when rolling for reserves, outflank and mysterious terrain - WINNING!

pyromancy unsuprisingly lots of fire!
primary flame breath (flamer)
psyker gains 4+ invo
target unit gains 4+ cover save
flame attack assault 1, sould blaze (no idea) blast, ignore cover
target model takes 1 wound , no armor or cover save allowed, place small blast template anyone hit takes a str 4 ap 5 hit
assault 2d6, blind, ignore cover attack - Blind?
str 8, ap 1 assault 1, melta

telekenisis
assault 1 str 6 . strikedown (halves init and target moves as if its dangerous terrain)
roll 2d6 target takes hit equal to strength (11 or 12 auto wound) ap is equal to seperate dice roll
remove models from table, deepstrike within 24 inchs of where they were - can they then assault? Or just last turn objective snatching
hostile unit must reroll hits and wounds of 6
assault D6 pinning attack
all friendlies with 12 inchs get 5++
str 10, heavy 1 blast - good, as longas it don't backfire...dno't try using this against Eldar

telepathy
primary 3d6 - target leadership wounds to target unit
target unit has to make leadership roll or do nothing - A pinning test then?
target freindly stops falling back and gets fearless
hostile model makes an attack as if it owned by psyker - Depends on war gear limitations..and in C or Ranged?
target hostile losses fearless and treats all units as fear causing - He he he he....making demons run from combat
invisibility gains shrouding and stealth, hostiles charged by this unit lose counter attack and fight at WS 1 - could be great for units in cover
roll on table 1-2 unit pinned, 3-4 cannot run, shoot or stirke blows 5-6 attack own unit

[Ota]

Vidim ja da ce moji Taui uvek u bitku ici sa Eldradom koga su slucajno tu negde pronasli i oslobodili.

[Mrzimsvee]

ne mogu specijalni karakteri kao saveznici

[teclis]

6th Edition Rule Book Unboxing by IDICBeer 40k

[Ota]

ne mogu specijalni karakteri kao saveznici

Neeeeee. Znaci samo0 "obican" farseer ili marinacki librarian - e steta.

[Hypodermic]

ne mogu specijalni karakteri kao saveznici

Neeeeee. Znaci samo0 "obican" farseer ili marinacki librarian - e steta.

Cuti tu ti imas saveznike :P moje bocabube izgubile +1 initiative u charge-u, sada ih samaraju marinci u istom initiative step-u :P

[Ota]

Cuti tu ti imas saveznike :P moje bocabube izgubile +1 initiative u charge-u, sada ih samaraju marinci u istom initiative step-u :P

Pazi ja sam srecan covek. Za saveznike mogu sa svakim osim tvojih buba. Lele!!!

[Hypodermic]

Svi MCs izazivaju fear. Fleet re-rolluje charge distance. Tiranidi nemaju ICs (uglavnom) pa nista od challenge-a. Imamo svoj cover jos od predhodne edicije. MC udarci su ap2 uvek. Fearless modeli nisu podlozni No Retreat vise (warriori vise ne ginu od combat resolutiona zbog PF-a!). Trupe u vozilima ne drze objective, a tiranidi imaju MC trupe. Leteci MC dobija jink kao i skimmeri, pored svog regularnog save-a.

Ja zaista ne vidim zasto bi, pored svih ovih sitnica, tiranidi dobili jos i saveznike. Mislim da bi bilo mnogo :D Malo mi krivo zbog furious charge, ali nista strasno :D

[Dzon Vejn]

Da li neko mozda ima link ka.... mmm... "izvoru informacija" odakle gledate "rumore" ?

[Mrzimsvee]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/s ... t=22683%22

[Hypodermic]

[joggy]

hmmm, koliko sad citam ove postove malko sam razocaran. Ali ovako otprilike vidim novu ediciju:

spremi 100-200 funti za terene (verujem da ce nesto raditi)
spremi 100-200 funti za saveznike (nadam se da imam odgovarajuce )

power weaponi u svim varijantama su jos beskorisniji nego pre (ne mnogo, ali ipak), znaci ostaju u fioci. Power fist i thunder hammer su i dalje mnogo bolja opcija.

kolko vidim vozila su postala prilicno beskorisna. Kao imaju hull poene koji u sustini sluze da ne nastradaju od jednog glansing hita, medjutim penetrating je gori po njih nego ranije, kao i blastovi. Da ne pominjem pogadjanje na 3+ u najboljem slucaju u hth. Plus 3-4 bilo kakva hita i ode. Dreke ce isto izgubiti jer mozes da padnes moral save, pa ne moze vise da lokuje jedinicu bez power fista. Jedina dobra vozila ce biti flyeri, po mogucstvu da sto manje kostaju (treba obrisati prasinu sa land speedera).

Nece se izlaziti iz kuce bez castera.

cavalry i jump infantry je postala malo bolja (pomeriti ih iz zadnjih u prve redove u fioci)

2d6 charge, mislim da je zalutao ovde iz obicnog warhammera

25% za vracanje malo poboljsava imperijalnu gardu, kao i onaj stand and shoot.

[Histericni Istoricar]

Vidim da ce uskoro biti nova akcija izrade terena. Fali nam ponesto.

[deka]

Vidim da ce uskoro biti nova akcija izrade terena. Fali nam ponesto.

Pa ja ću sada verovatno i da napravim "onaj" Outpost XIII, doduše u plavoj (ili "Cadian-skoj) boji, ali za tebe baš i nisam siguran šta ćeš da uradiš...

[PeraNekron]

Hm...'ladno mogu kao nekron da uzmem Chaos Space Marine Sorcerora kao saveznika, ili neke marinacke librarirane..:D

[Histericni Istoricar]

Ma bre Medvede mislio sam na klubske terene. Ja planiram sebi da kupi nesto, sigurno necu mackati, drljati i iznad svega lepiti terene.

[deka]

..lepiti...

O, da...

Samo nemoj da prilaziš lepilu na manje od 2 metra...

[No 1]

Neće da lepi ali oće da duva?

[Histericni Istoricar]

Ja pijem i to mnogo, e onda kada uzmem da lepim kao i svakom pijancu, meni se tresu ruku i ondak potrosim celu tubu lepila da bih zalepio marincu ruku. Kada se napijem onda to radim bez problema. Medjutim sve vise lekara mi zabranjuje da pijem, pa neznam sta cu sada.

[Mrzimsvee]

Pročitah 6.ediciju sinoć. Moram priznati da je više 5.5edicija.
Nisu tako drastične promene kao u WFB. Mislim da će biti čak i bolje.
Scenariji su zaista bolji, mada kill poeni ostaju isti.
Sve u svemu biće ok igrati u novoj ediciji.

[PeraNekron]

Jel izasao neki pdf? Prosledite link molicu, ako ima.

[milosh]

I meni molim :D

[Histericni Istoricar]

Unapred zahvalan i kapetan Jarak Rubinstajn.

[Highborn of Ulthuan]

I meni molim,unapred zahvalan i Death to Humies

[Monsterman]

Ni ja se ne bih zalio...

[Petar]

Imate na demonoidu "Warhammer 40,000 6 ed (phone photo quality)"; takodje, u opisu stoji i ovo: "severe quality, but readable no fluff". Isti fajl postoji i na piratebay.

[Highborn of Ulthuan]

Ghazghkull se zahvaljuje i mozete da zivite za sada

[Petar]

Ako nekome treba direktan link, nek' se javi.