Stevan wrote:(a igrace se LW i kod nas to potpisujem)
Ja sigurno ne... posto su tenkovi, kao osnovna stvar za koju je LW pravljen, kod UK i dalje bulja - i dalje sam trained, i dalje imam no HE specijalno pravilo, i dalje imam oklop 6 (samo sto sada jos lakse umirem, jer dosta toga ima one AT 12-13).
Takodje, druga armija koju planiram da skupim (Finska) ne postoji za LW uopste.
Diskutabilno je i za ostale "manje" frakcije da li rade ista u LW (ITA, HUN, ROM, ...).
jedino No HE oruđe koje UK imaju u LW je top od 17 pdr a on ima AT13
od vozila to su Firefly a ona ide sa 3 šermana i M10 svi ostali imaju normalne topove
i ko što rekoh ranije LW finska lista bi trebalo da se pojavi uskoro
British armoured squadron, festung europa, armoured squadron:
Firefly (dakle jedini tenk koji moze da naudi svabama) - No HE
Honey Stuart - No HE
Armoured car 2 pdr - No HE
dakle jedino sto NEMA no HE pravilo je ubogi serman, koji je cak i u MW ubog, a kamoli u LW.
Takodje, kao sto vec rekoh, i dalje sam trained, i dalje imam armor 6 (sa boka i da ne gledam), i dalje nemam opciju da uzmem neki ozbiljan tenk, itd. Jedini moj top koji moze da povredi tigra je Firefly, kojih imas cela 2 u armiji.
I onda naletis na, recimo, nemacku panzer diviziju, kojima je najmanji AT 11 (9 ako se bas potrude (a 9 i dalje busi sermana)), koji ne daj boze uzmu pantere sa front armor 10 i AT 14, kojima ni 1 tenk nema no HE pravilo, koji su si veterani, itd...
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Firefly (dakle jedini tenk koji moze da naudi svabama) - No HE
Honey Stuart - No HE
Armoured car 2 pdr - No HE
dakle jedino sto NEMA no HE pravilo je ubogi serman, koji je cak i u MW ubog, a kamoli u LW.
Takodje, kao sto vec rekoh, i dalje sam trained, i dalje imam armor 6 (sa boka i da ne gledam), i dalje nemam opciju da uzmem neki ozbiljan tenk, itd. Jedini moj top koji moze da povredi tigra je Firefly, kojih imas cela 2 u armiji.
I onda naletis na, recimo, nemacku panzer diviziju, kojima je najmanji AT 11 (9 ako se bas potrude (a 9 i dalje busi sermana)), koji ne daj boze uzmu pantere sa front armor 10 i AT 14, kojima ni 1 tenk nema no HE pravilo, koji su si veterani, itd...
pročitaj bolje za Stuarte
2pdr sa adaptereom a tada je namenjen da bije transportere i tenokove
OK nemac uzme 3 pantera a ti za iste poena 6 šermana i 2 firefly
ako uzme PzKpfw IVH za iste poene dobije 3 tenka a UK dobije 4 od kojih je 1 Firefly
inače No HE je da ne moža da bije po pešadiji i topovima što ga čini sasvim OK da bije po tenkovima i ostalim vozilima
za pešadiju tu su topovi Šermana i mitraljezi
dalje tu su M10 i M10 sa 17pdr topom koji imaju AT 12 odnosno AT13, imaš avione, artiljeriju, AT topove itd, itd...
XY načina da uništiš nemački tenk
Bogami Neso,malo sam listao forume..UK armor je sve samo ne za podceniti.
A koliko sam skapirao ljudi u LW sa UK dosta dobro prolaze i po turnirima.
A sto se tice pice o istorijskoj tacnosti..ok mislim da sam skapirao da neki ljudi hoce da se igraju iskljucivo istorijski tacno,nekima nije bitno,neki bi igrali nevoljno...sve u svemu,u ionako malom FOW community-ju u nas,bilo bi josh teze naci protivnika/e koji bi pikali sa uzivanjem.
Posto nemam para za 3 liste..proksovacu ko nezdrav..ako ni to ljudima ne odgovara..jebga necu se ni igrati:)
"Moj pas nema nos!"
"Pa kako onda mirise?"
"Odvratno!"
Festung europa nemam downloadovan, tako da moram verovati AB-u (a u njemu kaze da je stuart no HE... moguce da je pogresno, provericu).
6 sermana i 2 fireflyja umru od 3 pantera kad god (to pod predpostavkom da igraju 2 jednako dobra igraca... necu da ulazim u one teorije 'a sta ako je protivnik totalni retard, pa ti nacrta bok?, pa ga ti izbusis sermanima). Imate isti domet, ti njemu ne mozes da probijes front, on tebe ubija automatski, dakle ni teoretski ne mozes da se spases. Plus te pogadja na 3+.
A to sto pisu po forumima, to je sve vrlo diskutabilno... znate i Tzeentch lorda na zmaju su smatrali smesnim izborom, pa su ga neki vrlo uspesno vodili . A isto tako su i pacove smatrali ultra armijom, pa sam ja uvek trljao ruke kad naletim na njih. UK tenkovi su odlicni... dok ne naletis na nekoga ko zna da igra .
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
proverio ja 3 puta u knjizi
poenta je što te tvoje analize su zasnovane na pretpostavci da neme ničeg drugog na tabli ni jedinica ni terena i da i jedni i drugi stoje jedni naspram drugih i prepucavaju se
naravno da će u takvoj situaciji Panteri uništiti Šermane ali u minimum 2 poteza
čisto da ne bude zabune teoretski je moguće da u jednom potezu Šermani i Fyrefly unište Pantere
obrnuto nije
Kao sto rekoh na drugoj temi - meni se jos nije desilo da mi neko opali u bok (barem ne da se secam).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
ali ipak to sto se tebi nije desilo, ne znaci da se ne desava!
Pedja samo prica objektivno, a ti gledas dosta uze, individualno, izolovane slucajeve.
Mnogo zavisi od terena, scenarija i kompozicije armije.
Npr. pazi da i panter i serman imaju top armor 1, ali sermani mogu da nakace 50'c AA koji imaju sansu kod aviona. Mislim i da AA moze da kompenzuje i cinjenicu da saveznice avion nadje na 3+ a svabe na 4+. Tako da bi zastitio pantere od aviona ti moras da uzmes jos jedan vod AA (nemoras, ali mi se cini kao mudo!). - koji je opet skuplji u poenima od opcije da sermanima nakacis AA (a ako mozemo i da pricamo o tome - kosta te manje U $$$! jedan sd kfz AA, recimo 7/1 quad 2cm, kosta 9.5e, a mozes da ih vodis 3. )
Jer panter je meni skup da bih rizikovao cak i tu sansu da ga unisti obican sporadic air support
Sto se tice boka, ja ne vidim kako je to izolovan slucaj ako mi se bas nikada nije desilo... dakle svako ko malo vodi racuna nece doci u tu situaciju (jer sve mozes da premeris, plus ti je front 180 stepeni, a ne 90 - dakle ako iole vodis racuna nece ti pucati u bok; i na svu muku se kreces 12" (8 ako si slow) sto je sasvim dovoljno da se namestis tako da te niko nema u boku).
Naravno da teren ima veze, on ti dodatno pomaze da cuvas bok (sume, kuce). Mislim da je malo besmisleno reci - panteri su losiji od sermana jer imaju priblizno isti bocni oklop. Jer ces u 90% slucajeva (i vise ako igras protiv nekoga ko vodi racuna) pucati iskljucivo u front. A tu serman nema sta da trazi.
Sermani imaju AA MG koji prvo treba da pogodi, pa onda sve sto pogodi, treba da baci opet i racuna iskljucivo sestice. I onda jos imas izvesne penale, jer si pucao AA gunom. I u proseku ubijes 1 avion.
AA ti da jos 1 vod, mozes da upucas i neki tenk, mozes da upucas ukopanu pesadiju, imas dodatne modele, mozes da se branis i protiv aviona koji ne napadaju taj vod, itd. Sve to za (kod nemca) 45 poena vise.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
jbg ja opet pa pricam iz mog iskustva!
Moma je meni unistio cercila tako sto sa mika panzer zaleteo iz zaklona i uleto u bok! 8O
Kao sto tebe teren stiti, stiti i onog drugog
Dzon Vejn wrote:
6 sermana i 2 fireflyja umru od 3 pantera kad god (to pod predpostavkom da igraju 2 jednako dobra igraca...
3 pantera vs 6sermana i 2 ff.... to su 2 voda na jedan - i eto ti je panterova guza na tacni!
Jebiga necu da se nastavljam... vi vodite sta vam je volja, ako ikada budem igrao sa nemcima, bice mi jako drago kada sa druge strane vidim sermane :D.
Chempres cak smatra da su oni toliko odlicni, da je morao da uzme cercile umesto njih :D... valjda zato sto su sermani prejaki, pa da se ne bune ljudi :D. I opet, ako ikada budem vodio nemce, bice mi drago da vidim 6 sermana i 2 firefly tenka naspram moja 3 pantera :D.
Ja sam imao najbolju nameru da ukazem ljudima da $$$ za 8 tenkova koji ne rade nista mogu pametnije da utrose ... ali vi samo izvolte, izvedite sta vam je volja .
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Meni su moji shermani uglavnom bili jako dobri dok ih je htela kocka.Naubijali su se stugova,mominih semoventi,pzIIIki i jednog tigra i jos kojecega.Naravno onda su dosli dani kada su bili u tako savrsenom polozaju da razvale bokove pzIIIkama pa su sve izmasili i zginuli odmah.Cak sta vise zadovoljniji sam shermanima nego m10kama.
E ja onako sa boka da uletim.... Elem nemojte se diciti mukama manevra "da ga zguzim s` boka" dok ne probate to sa rusima... Na stranu vasa kretanja 12" i 8" (slow) kad crni ruja ne moz metak da opali ako se kretao vise od 6"!!! A pri tom ima i limited vision na pucanje... i opet sam tako ubog gadjao u bok i Pedjine i Goranove tenkove a slozicete se oni nisu bas neiskusni igraci da to olako dozvole...
Na konto tog manevra je i primedba da mozda zanemarujemo okretanje tenka ili kupole u pravcu pucanja... Kad bi se to pravilo postovalo malo vise bilo bi sigurno mnogo lakse dobiti sansu da nekome sprzis bok...
Sto se tice Sermana tu sam imao razlicita iskustva... od onih kada sam ih stugovima lako odstreljivao do momenata kada sam panicno bezao od njih. Ako pogledas karakteristike oni su slicni T-34 i mislim da forsiraju agresivniju igru. Naravno da ti nikakva agresivnost nece pomoci protiv tigra ali jedan je tigar a polje je siroko... Protiv ostalih svapskih medium/light tenkova mislim da sermani mogu jako dobro da se pokazu. Opet takodje sam misljenja da koliko su korisni za US cetu toliko im nije mesto u UK ceti... Jednostavno mislim da se te dve liste konceptualno razlikuju pa prema tome i sermani imaju razlicitu upotrebljivost u njima...
opsidiannight wrote:Nema svrhe da ga osudujemo sto prodaje figure jebo je u stisci.
Ajd i ja da dam neki komentar, sto se tice mojih utisaka o tenkovima zasad. Igrao sam protiv ruskih, americkih, engleskih i jednom protiv dzonijevog tigra. Zasad mislim da su shermani (americka verzija sa stabilizatorima) najbolji gledajuci odnos cena/kvalitet. Protiv rusa sam igrao samo jednom tako da nesto nemam neki utisak, osim da ih je gomila. Cercil je odlican ali 3 komada i nisu nesto opasna. Dzonijevog tigra sam zapalio, ali obojica smo bili totalni amateri pa nemogu nista da kazem. Ostaju mi shermani sa kojima imam veoma mnogo problema. Relativno jeftini, bocni oklop 4, dok recimo IIIN ima 3, i najvaznija stvar, jebeni stabilizatori. Mislim da su za MW najkorisniji tenk.
Za LW stvarno neznam.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Evo i konacne liste koja je narucena..za sve vas koji se plasite nemackih ubica iz dimenzije X..odahnite,u listi su samo konvencionalna oruzja :lol:
Daklem BEHOLD..moja MW Panzer Co. lista:
HQ: CC Panzer III N,shurtzen
2iC Panzer III L
1. Combat platoon:
4 X P III L
2. Combat platooon:
3 X Stug G
2 X AA Sd Kfz 7/2 armored(3.7 cm)
ili
2 X SD Kfz 231 8-RAD Heavy AC patrol
1 X Nebelwelfer section (3 nebelwelfera)
za tachno 1500 Pts.
I to je to...pokusacu i sa varijantom bez AA a sa reccee platoonom koji cu proksovati ili sta vec ali ovo sto je gore navedeno kupujem i od liste ne odstupam:)
Hummele sam ostavio za LW listu koju takodje planiram da uzmem u neko dogledno vreme.
AJ pa tako..sad samo treba sacekati josh tih mesec dana:)
Poz svima.
"Moj pas nema nos!"
"Pa kako onda mirise?"
"Odvratno!"
Pitanje,da li i za Stug pesadija prolazi moral kad hoce da ga asoltuje ili ne?
Da li hull mounted MG moze da puca defensive..to ne mogu da pronadjem nigde?
Hvala unapred.
"Moj pas nema nos!"
"Pa kako onda mirise?"
"Odvratno!"
Misilim da za stug ne treba proveravati posto nije tenak nego AT na gusenicama.
Svaki MG ima defensive fire, s tim sto ako tenak puca AA mitraljezom u defensive fire, onda rerolluje uspesne savove u assaultu (otvorio poklopac na kupoli da bi pucao, pa duva promaja )
Bathory wrote:Verujem da je tako, ali gde to tacno pise?
Pise ti tamo gde su navedeni sve jednice sa statistikom koje jedna vojska moze da ima ...
Recimo da sklapas nemacku listu po Africi, onda se to nalazi na stranama: 202 do 204.
Nisam 100% siguran, ali mislim da mozes da pucas samo spreda, jer si hull mounted. Kad smo vec kod toga, jel to znaci da ako tenk koji na kupoli ima MG, radi defensive fire, mora da okrene kupolu unazad?
I drugo pitanje, vezano za german mision tactics special rule:
strana 50 rulebook-a, 54 pdf-a, vrh desnog stupca kaze da kada se 1iC / 2iC / Higher Command pridruze platunu, oni postaju komanda. German mission tactics kaze da kada vodeci tim umre, izaberes novi tenk i on postaje komandni. E sad ono sto mi nije jasno
1) da li to znaci da CC ne moze da umre (neko mi je rekao da to pravilo ne radi tako, mada ja ne vidim u pravilima zasto)
2) ako je recimo HQ neki smrdljivi pazner tenk sa oklopom recimo 3, i pridruzi se, rasprave radi, tigrovima, vi nanesete hit, on dodeli smrdljivom panzeru, panzer umre, i sada je tigar CC?
Ukoliko ja nesto mnogo pogresno ne citam, ove dve stvari bi trebale da rade bas tako... sto cini to pravilo izuzetno gadnim :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Nisam 100% siguran, ali mislim da mozes da pucas samo spreda, jer si hull mounted. Kad smo vec kod toga, jel to znaci da ako tenk koji na kupoli ima MG, radi defensive fire, mora da okrene kupolu unazad?
I drugo pitanje, vezano za german mision tactics special rule:
strana 50 rulebook-a, 54 pdf-a, vrh desnog stupca kaze da kada se 1iC / 2iC / Higher Command pridruze platunu, oni postaju komanda. German mission tactics kaze da kada vodeci tim umre, izaberes novi tenk i on postaje komandni. E sad ono sto mi nije jasno
1) da li to znaci da CC ne moze da umre (neko mi je rekao da to pravilo ne radi tako, mada ja ne vidim u pravilima zasto)
2) ako je recimo HQ neki smrdljivi pazner tenk sa oklopom recimo 3, i pridruzi se, rasprave radi, tigrovima, vi nanesete hit, on dodeli smrdljivom panzeru, panzer umre, i sada je tigar CC?
Ukoliko ja nesto mnogo pogresno ne citam, ove dve stvari bi trebale da rade bas tako... sto cini to pravilo izuzetno gadnim :D.
ne.
to što CC ili 2iC preuzima komandu nad određenim vodom samo se koristi za određivanje koji su timovi u komandnom radijusu
German Mission Tactics pravilo i dalje se odnosi samo na originalni komandni tim
što se tiče Hull MG da on može samo da puca 180 stepeni ispred sebe
kada se napada tenk koji ima CoAX MG on može s njim da puca po pešadiji
takođe ne zaboravite da pošto većina tenkova ima i Hull MG taj se ne može koristiti za Defensive fire ako pešadija dolazi izvan ugla od 180 stepeni
Na osnovu cega zakljucujes ono za german mison tactics? Posto u pravilu lepo pise da on postaje komandir voda... nigde ne pise to za radijus, te ne vidim zasto ne bi imao taj "save" (na zalost ally igraca ).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Ako citamo samo ITALIC text (a italic text je pravilo) onda je Dzon Vejnv definitivno upravu ... no sto bi rekli ljudi ... to sigurno nije bila namera pisca pravila :D
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Na osnovu cega zakljucujes ono za german mison tactics? Posto u pravilu lepo pise da on postaje komandir voda... nigde ne pise to za radijus, te ne vidim zasto ne bi imao taj "save" (na zalost ally igraca ).
na osnovu sledećeg:
u opisu GMT pravila piše Platoon Command team
u pravilim piše: platoon Command team
u dosadašnjem igranju naučio sam da je vrlo bitno da li je nešto napisano velikim ili malim slovom te samim tim Platoon CT nije isto što i platoon CT te stoga GMT pravilo se odnosi samo na integralnog komandira voda a ne ne onoga koji obavlja funkciju komandira voda
Gde ti pise to da se razlicito tretiraju velika i mala slova?
Onoga Azerbejdzanca sa FOW foruma nisam razumeo ama bas nista :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Gde ti pise to da se razlicito tretiraju velika i mala slova?
Onoga Azerbejdzanca sa FOW foruma nisam razumeo ama bas nista :D.
kada piše Platoon Command team to se misli isključivo i jedino na integralnog komandira voda
bila je slična rasprava sa Slovićem kako i za koje vodove US CC može da radi kao observer i lepo velikim slovima piše za koje može
sve što je napisano velikim slovima je samo tako i nikako drugačije
CC i 2iC kada se priključe vodu oni određuju samo komandni radijus i koja postolja mogu da se pomeraju i ništa više
što se tiče onog sa foruma FOW ništa pametno nije rekao
što se tiče tenkova ako je vod sastavljen od tigra i pzIII, a tigar strada onda PzIII postaje komandir
u slučaju da CC u Panteru pogine a pored njega je npr PzIV onda može da porboa Warrior Save ako uspe uništen je PzIV ako ne uništen je CC i Panter
Znaci u prevodu - ne pise nigde da se velika i mala slova tretiraju razlicito?
Ok za tigra sam i ja tako mislio. Ovo drugo je totalno trece pravilo - warrior save, i tu nema nikakve dileme, to je jasno. Nejasno je kako radi GMT u kombinaciji sa pravilom na strani 50... kao i kod infantry timova.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Znaci u prevodu - ne pise nigde da se velika i mala slova tretiraju razlicito?
Ok za tigra sam i ja tako mislio. Ovo drugo je totalno trece pravilo - warrior save, i tu nema nikakve dileme, to je jasno. Nejasno je kako radi GMT u kombinaciji sa pravilom na strani 50... kao i kod infantry timova.
po meni radi ovako kako sam objasnio
prevashodno zato što je CC po definiciji Independent Command team a to nije isto što i Platoon Command team iako ponekad mogu da obavljaju istu fukciju
ne kažem da sam 100% u pravu ali kažem da sam 95%
Da, oni inace jesu independent command team, ali to i pise na stranici 50 - oni postaju platoon's command team kada join-uju jedinicu.
Ajde ovo za pesadiju jos i nije TOLIKO strasno (jer ce se jako tesko desiti da umre CC kod pesadije). Ali da od smrdljivog panzera 38 mozes da postanes tigar u komandi, to je vec stvarno gadno.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Da, oni inace jesu independent command team, ali to i pise na stranici 50 - oni postaju platoon's command team kada join-uju jedinicu.
Ajde ovo za pesadiju jos i nije TOLIKO strasno (jer ce se jako tesko desiti da umre CC kod pesadije). Ali da od smrdljivog panzera 38 mozes da postanes tigar u komandi, to je vec stvarno gadno.
i sam taj komentar ti je dovoljan da shvatiš da to tako jednostavno ne radi
mada defacto možeš ako prođeš WS da se transformišeš iz PzKpfw38 u Tigra
doduše tako gubiš vod, gubiš mogućnost da Tigrom zauzimaš ili braniš objektiv
Ne osporavam ja da to pravilo "ne bi trebalo" da radi to sto radi.
Ali ono sto u pravilima pise - nazalost, radi upravo ovako kako sam pisao.
edit: sto znaci da na svabovskim igracima ostaje kako ce se ponasati .
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
. A isto tako su i pacove smatrali ultra armijom, pa sam ja uvek trljao ruke kad naletim na njih. UK tenkovi su odlicni... dok ne naletis na nekoga ko zna da igra 
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