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Tabla: Update 13.06.10 - 10:15 - GOTOVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ciaos svima ...

Svi znate koliko sam smarao sa zeljom da se u Sigilu poboljsa situacija kako bi smo mogli da cuvamo terene (table) u 3D ...

E pa sada kada su se Pedja, Rick i Aleksandar sve lepo dogovorili (jos samo da dogovoreno sprovedu u delo :evil:) resih da krenem sa pravljenjem table i ispunim obecano ...

Osnovnu ideju za 1/3 table sam nasao na FoW forumu i mnooogoooo mi se svidela pa sam je ukrao ;) ... Onda sam pokusao da skrojim jos dodatna 2 dela tako da se tabla moze namestiti na vise nacina ... kada je i taj plan zavrsen uz pomoc 3 table-makete velicine 6 x 12 cm (tj u razmeri 1:10 :D) ... prionuh na posao ...

Materijal/cena:

3 table 60x120cm obicnog lesonita (oko 1.000 rsd)

2 table Stirodura (5cm i 2cm)
3 x Akrilni Git od 800g
2 x Farba za beton (braon i siva)
(2.200 rsd)

40 drvenenih stapica (RSD 200 - morao dam da popijem kafu u Costa Coffee i ukradem iste :D)

Drvca, travica, zbunje i slicno od Woodland Scenica/GW/ITD (rsd 6.000)

Za sada potroseno: RSD 9.400

I projekat je pokrenu. Ovo sto je pred vama je plod nekih (samo!) 2,5 sata rada ... sada treba sacekati da se git osusi i lepak odradi svoje ... onda krece farbanje ... pa travica i drvca ...

Inicijalni plan ...
Kratko objasnjenje - 2. i 3. tabla mogu ZAJEDNO da se rotiraju za 90 stepeni (suprotno smeru kazaljke na satu) i naprave novu tablu ... ili recimo DRUGA tabla moze da se rotira za 180 stepeni, a treca onda dolazi ISPOD 1. i 2. Takodje 3. tabla u ma kakvoj postavci moze da se rotira 180 stepeni i tako doda na raznovrsnosti ...
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Crtez prve table
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Pogled odozgo
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Pogled sa strane
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Komentari, kritike i saveti su vise nego dobro dosli ...
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 09:45)

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mislim da bi brda bolje izgledala da su malko niža a da imaju kosinu
ovako nekako štrče ko soliteri

ajde stavi figure pored brda da steknem bolju percepciju
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Moze biti ...
No ideja i jeste bila da kosine nema ... I da za penjanje i silazenje mogu da se koriste samo dva putica ... A da se na drugim mestima mogu peti samo "planinari" ....
Verovatno cu dodatno izrezbariti ivice da ne izgledaju jednobrazne ... Ali ih kositi necu ...
To je ujedno i ono sto mi se svidelo na par terena koje sam video ... gde autor objasnjava da je pravio kompromis izmedju realnosti (kosih brda) i igrivosti (ravnih brda) + ovo ovde su klifovi ... a oni se uzdizu kao soliteri :-) ... inace brda (do prve ravnice) su visoka 5 cm ...
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 09:45)

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ma super su i ovako oštra samo bi po licu litice zalepio nekog kamenja i peska da ne izlgeda ovako glatko već kao stenčuga najstrašnija.

P.S. Zašto imam otisak da ću ovo ja prskati?
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 09:45)

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Meni su brda sasvim ok. Pogotovo mi se svidja ideja da se moze popeti samo putevima. Na taj nacin se stice utisak da su sama brda pogodna za odbramben polozaj i naravno naknadno izinjerski uredjenja.
Jedino ne kontam sta je ono u donjem desnom uglu (lici mi na prerasli stog sena).
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 09:45)

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@Homer - iskreno i ja se pitam sta je to sto lici na prerasli plast sena (lepo si ga definisao) - ideja je bila da je u tu "probila stena" ...
@Slovic - ti ovo neces prskati :-)

Evo i update posle koriscenja pozamasne kolicine boje za beton (koja se pokazala odlicnom). Na slici se vide i Woodland Scenic drvca ... deo on onih 56 sto mi je stiglo :D

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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 17:00)

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Postavljen je most i zasejana je prva travica ...

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"preglomazni plast sena :D"
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Valter napada most :D
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 19:00)

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respect!
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 19:00)

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@Baneblade :D thanks ;)

I poslednji update za veceras ;)

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Jos jedan pogled na "predimenzionirani plast sena" :D
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Lepa slika :)
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Cela (ali jos uvek ne zavrsena) 1/3 table :)
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Ajd ciaos do sutra :-)
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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aferim Žubore
ovo baš lepo izgleda ovako kada se završi
biće uživanje igrati na istoj
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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Stvarno super izgleda. Jedino sto nisam mogao da provalim izmedju prvih i zadnjih slika jeste da li su braon povrsine dobile jos neki brush? To je bilo jedino sto mi se nije bas svidelo.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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Sta reci osim :applause: :applause: :applause:
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@Pedja & Mikaan - hvala na podrsci :D
Dzon Vejn wrote:Stvarno super izgleda. Jedino sto nisam mogao da provalim izmedju prvih i zadnjih slika jeste da li su braon povrsine dobile jos neki brush? To je bilo jedino sto mi se nije bas svidelo.
ma te braon povrsine mi zadaju najvise problema/brige/itd ...

jednostavno ako ih ostavim samo braon ... ne lice ni na sta ... cak i ako ih drybrushujem ... opet su previse ravne (ko mi je kriv kad sam stedeo na materijalu :D) ... a da stavim svuda travicu ... i to ne ide ... jer ipak ... trava kosta boga oca ... aaaaaaaaaaa ...

Sutra treba da zavrsim te braon povrsine (ako smislim kako 8O) i da skroz zavrsim tu prvu tablu ...

E sad ... kad ce doci na red druga dva dela ... verovatno za 2 nedelje ... jer mi je sledeceg vikenda detetov rodjendan ...
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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a da pospeš nečim što liči na šljunak?
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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Zubore..wash cini cuda u velikom broju slucajeva..e sad..bolje bi bilo da je svetlija braon ta osnovna..pa da washujes tamnijom...ali mozda bi mogao i ovo da washnes crnom nekom..i samo malo drajbrasujes preko.
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:a da pospeš nečim što liči na šljunak?
pa poenta je sto sam se zajebao ... grdno ... te sam stavio akrilni git ... pa ofarbao ...
e sad ... to ostaje kao jedna od opcija ... ali onda cu morati da farbam jos jednom ... tj ... jednom sam dzabe krecio :D
ali ... izgleda da je to jedino moguce resenje ...
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Re: Tabla - Pocetak (Update 29.05.10 - 20:30)

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Žubore, svaka ti dala.

Samo jedno pitanje, gde je tu sneg, nama su obećali snežne padavine? :D
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Re: Tabla: Update 30.05.10 - 11:00 - prva trecina je zavrsena

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Prva trecina table (tj komad velicine 120 x 60 cm) je zavrsen i od danas ce biti u klubu jer ja stvarno nemam gde da ga drzim ... o istom trosku odnecu i onaj vinograd ...

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Sad je mnogo, mnogo bolje.
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Sad bas ubija ;).

Nego Zubore, kljucno pitanje je: da li si napisao na mostu koja je nosivost i koja ja visina mosta :twisted: ?

Mislim, meni nije bitno, ali mozda ce biti onih kojima jeste, jer - onaj most je drven, pa sad, da li drveni most bez donje konstrukcije moze da izdrzi, recimo, sermana, tigra, pantera ili KV1? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTQmmqm9nk
da se ja pitam ja bi proterao tigra tuda :)

uh sad je bas,bas opak teren.jedva cekam da vidim celu tablu.plus izgleda bas visokobudzetno.jos jednom respect!
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@Mrzimsvee & Dzon Vejn - hvala na komentarima :D
Baneblade wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTQmmqm9nk
da se ja pitam ja bi proterao tigra tuda :)
ahahahaha ... moj se ne klima ;)
Baneblade wrote: uh sad je bas,bas opak teren.jedva cekam da vidim celu tablu.plus izgleda bas visokobudzetno.jos jednom respect!
pa da .. nisko budzetni sigurno nije ;) ... pored sveg navedenog u prvom postu, otisla su i 2 suepr lepka (150 kinti, i jedna farba 250) ... do karaj ce mi (koliko vidim) trebati jos 2 akrilna gita (500 kinti) + dve farbice za dry brush (jos 500 kinti), jos jedan ceo veliki PVA lepak (300 kinti - valjda) i jedan otirac + cosmos mat sprej ... tj total ce biti oko 12.000 dinara 8O ...

na kraju ... samo se plasim da ce biti lep ... ali ne bas preterano igriv :-( ... vec sada ima previse livada ... na druge dve table ce ostati prostora za kucice ... a videcu da polja budu sastavni deo table ...

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Prazni delovi terena se uvek mogu dopuniti sumama ili necim drugim, sto vec sada stavljamo na one "prazne table".
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Prazni delovi terena se uvek mogu dopuniti sumama ili necim drugim, sto vec sada stavljamo na one "prazne table".
ma to je jasno ;) ... ali meni nekako na ovaj deo koji je napravljen ... nekako ne ide da se ista doda ... na drugim delovima ce ostati mesta za par seoskih kucica ... a imacemo i jos Woodland Scenic drvca koja ce nam docarati realnost :D (uh ala s****m :D)

sad mi je sinulo!!! Woodland Scenic drvca se sastoje od korena ... i drveta ... drvo moze da se nabode u koren a ne mora da se zalepi ... tako da suma moze biti integrisana na tablu ("korenje zalepljeno") i kada tokom igre drvo zasmeta ... ono se samo izvadi iz korena! ha ;)

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Mislim da je ona opcija gde lepis drvece na baze za WH40K najbolja - uvek mozes da ih sklonis, ne remetis ostatak terena, moze da se koristi na svim tablama, itd.

Inace, samo ovako informativno, koliko si placao 5cm i 2cm stirodur table?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote: Inace, samo ovako informativno, koliko si placao 5cm i 2cm stirodur table?
nemam ideju koliko stirodur kosta ...

kupio sam 2 table stirudoura + 2 boje za beton + 2 gita + cosmos sprej + cetkicu i platio 2.000 dindzi ...
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Tabla je u Sigilu ... Treba samo da se ponovo zalepi most jer je pukao od tenzije tokom voznje :)
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Odlichno, sve sto si uradio i prikazao je vrh i tako da samo jedan komentar moze da bude :applause: :applause: :applause:!
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žubor wrote:Tabla je u Sigilu ... Treba samo da se ponovo zalepi most jer je pukao od tenzije tokom voznje :)
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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Tabla: Update 30.05.10 - 11:00 - prva trecina je zavrsena

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More Zubora za predsednika! :applause:
opsidiannight wrote:Nema svrhe da ga osudujemo sto prodaje figure jebo je u stisci.

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Re: Tabla: Update 30.05.10 - 11:00 - prva trecina je zavrsena

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@Olsianon & Skobra

Hvala :D

Inace ne mogu da docekam da krenem dalje da radim ... tako da sigurno necu cekati 2 vikenda .. .a kako imam nagomilanog overtime ... mozda uzmem day off i zavrsim sve i tokom nedelje ...

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Danas kupljeno: 2 x veliki PVA lepak, 4 x Akrilni git, Otirac = RSD 2.000

Pocet rad na drugoj trecini table:
Braon "tackice" su "korenja" od Woodland Scenic drvaca ...
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Braon fleke ...
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Elem, za sada nista epoholano, slike vise sluze kao nagovestaj da sam nastavio da radim na tabli ...

Kao sto se da primetiti druga trecina (a i treca) bice malo "opustenije" u odnosu na prvu, tj. imace manje "terena" ali ce isti biti veci ... neofarbani deo je spreman da "primi" otirac ...

Nastavak veceras (dry brush i njiva) i sutra (travica/drvca/mocvare i ostalo).
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Re: Tabla: Update 30.05.10 - 11:00 - prva trecina je zavrsena

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Gotova je i druga trecina :-)

Ok ... nije bas gotova ... treba da udarim jos jedan drybruh ... i da je isprskam mat lakom ... ali ... to stvarno ne mogu sada da uradim ... verovatno sutra oko 7h ... tik pred dorucak :D

Ovaj deo nije impozantan kao prvi, ali nije ni los :-) i kada sve bude gotovo pretstavljace lepu celinu :-) i tabla ce moci da se "namesti" na 8 razlicitih nacina ... cime ce se dosta dobiti na raznovrsnosti i pored toga sto su brda/sume/polja itd staticni, tj. ne mogu se pomerati ...

Ja se damo nadam se da u HS-u moze da se kupi neka normalna travica, inace ce izrada trece trecine morati da saceka dolazak nove ture robe :-( jer mi je ostala samo svetlo svetlo zelena trava ...

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Suma - na slici se vidi korenje ... elem .. ima 16 korenja ... i 8 drvaca ... ako vam neko drvce tokom igre zasmeta ... samo ga treba ubosti u slobodni koren :-)
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Efektna slika :D
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Dijagonalni presek ...
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Out of focus :( pogled od gore ...
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Pogled s' desna
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Pogled s' leva
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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:applause: :applause: :applause:

Dajte Zuboru travu da ga ne prodje ovaj veliki talas stvaralastva :mrgreen:

Svaka cast :-({|= - ovo ce odlicno da posluzi za Italy prangijanje izmedju HG i Devil's brigade - jedva cekam da prelistam friski primerak Dogs&Devils :P

Koja je ideja za 3 deo - nesto od onih vinograda sto si vec odradio .... :?:
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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Svaka cast matori.
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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neka te ne brine veliki broj praznog prostora
ono selo što sam kupio ima 15 zgrada i 2 seta ogradica...
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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@Pedja: ipak nece biti mesta za selo na ovoj tabli :D
@Mikaan: na zalost nemam vise materijala za vinograd ... a jos ne znam kako ce tacno izgledati treci deo table ali znam da ce biti uradjen u Petak :d
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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e vala svaki ti dala!
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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I drugi deo table se nalazi u Sigilu ... kao i one uboge kuce za "jeftini Stalingrad"
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Re: Tabla: Update 08.06.10 - 00:40 - druga trecina je zavrsena

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Videsmo danas ja i Golub prvi deo uzivo u Sigilu - odlicno izgleda :applause:
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