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Re: Mini MW turnir - subota 19. Jun - Table

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Postavicu ja kasnije jos slika i detaljnije opise mojih bitaka. Za sada zelim da pohvalim organizaciju koja je konacno licila na nesto, prostor koji je konacno bio odgovarajuc, Zuboru posebna pohvala za (dodatni) trud i (dodatno) angazovanje, i svim protivnicima na lepim partijama.

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edit1: table su ovako izgledale:
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Neke random lepe figure i tereni:

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Pobednik (tj. ja :D), i urucivanje "lepo pise plaketa gore":
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Ovo me je mucilo prvu partiju:
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A igrao sam i protiv coveka kome pesadija seta u stranu, i puca u stranu, jer........ nigde ne pise da to tako ne moze..... :
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Svojih ruku delo Italijane cu staviti u kreativnu sekciju.

U editu 2 ce biti komentari o bitkama.

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Prva bitka protiv Zubora mog favorite protivnika:

Partija je pocela tako sto sam ja rekao: "najvise bi mi nekako leglo da igramo na tabli broj 2", zatim sam izvukao (prvi) cedulju na kojoj tabli zapravo igramo, i izvukao.... 2 :D. To je ova tabla.

Naravno, izabrao sam polovinu koja ima kucice i puno sume. Postavio sam na tablu jednu pesadiju sa Carlijem u kucice, AT gunove u ambush, i veliku artiljeriju, koju sam hteo da isprobam da postavim blize, da vidim sta ce se desiti kada ih tako koristim. Levi odsek sam postavio u onu sumu koja je blize Zuboru, a desni deo oko kucica i desnog brda. Plan je bio - gde god da se Zubor postavi, imacu barem 4 AT guna iz ambusha i 4 artiljerije za direktnu vatru.

Zubor je odlucio da bas puno saradjuje, pa je sve postavio na onu stranu gde je meni bila suma. Krenuo je napred sa 5 malih tenkova (stuart), 6 velikih tenkova (4+2HQ shermana) i reccee. Drugih 5 malih tenkova se sakrilo iza centralnog brda. Artiljerija i mortari su pokusali da mi zadime moju artiljeriju u sumi, ali avaj - to radi samo na 6, a Zubor nije uspeo da baci 6. Dolazi moj potez, ja postavljam i AT gunove u sumu (izlaze iz ambusha) i oprobavam kako to izgleda kada protivnik saradjuje, a ja imam puno AT orudja - rezultat su mrtvi jedni mali tenkovi, osakaceni sermani i osakacen reccee.

Zubor opet napreduje i puca po meni, sto ja pretezno uspesno spasavam.

Sledi jos jedan volej mojih pucanja - jos jedni mrtvi mali tenkovi, i ostaje 4 ziva sermana.

Zubor sada radi assault sa reccee timovima i nakon toga sa sermanima. Reccee tim ostaje 1 koji bezi od mojih strasnih AT orudja. Sermani rade neki assault, ja se odmah posle toga povlacim. Zubor se namesta tako da pripreti i drugom objektivu.

Dolazi moj krug, ali ovaj put dolaze 2 pojacanja - biram 2 pesadije koje ponistavaju taj drugi objektiv i spremaju se da mrko gledaju Zuborove tenkove, sa svojim sticky bombs. Spotujem mu tenkove i jako lepom rukom uspevam da mu sve bailujem, ali sam pre toga ubio par modela, sto je znacilo moral za njega - i pobedu za mene.

Moji propusti su bili sto sam zaboravio da povucem na vreme HQ od AT gunova, i time omogucim sebi pobedu 6:1 (Zubor ih je breakthrough-ovao posle assaulta na artiljeriju), i sto sam zaboravio da mi sve ima sticky bombs (ukljucujuci i AT orudja, ali nije da je bilo preterano bitno). Zuborov najveci propust je postavka, odnosno to sto je isao da sto pre dodje do objektiva, umesto da se smarao dok ne baci smoke, pa onda da polako ide. Sve u svemu, lepa partija, kao i uvek sa cika Zuborom.

Druga partija protiv Malekitha (odmah da ti kazem da si mi odavno na blacklisti, tako da tvoje postove ne vidim :D - ha-ha-ha :twisted: ):
Igra se scenario koji meni omogucava da mu sabijem celu armiju u cosak. On ima 20386 postolja, i manje probleme sa postavljanjem istih u svom coskicu. Ima neke scoute koji ja ne znam kako rade. I pokusava da me pokrade :D (koliko sam na kraju razumeo Zubora, skauti mogu da rade neku infiltraciju, koja im omogucava da mi pridju do 8", ali samo ako su u conceal terenu (sto u njegovom coskicu ne postoji (sam ga je birao, bio je i drugi coskic koji je imao neke conceal terene)). U nekom trenutku Zubor dolazi i pita ga kako je to izveo, i tera ga da vratimo ceo potez od pocetka posto nije mogao da me assaultuje u prvom krugu, jer nije imao gde da sakrije skaute :D.

Ja sam mu dzentlmentski ponudio da ponovimo samo pokretanje pesadije, on se covek naljutio sto po pravilima ne moze da me assaultuje i trazio da nastavimo pogresno da igramo :D, sto ja naravno nisam dozvolio (velika je razlika da li ce me neko odmah assaultovati ili cu ja prvo imati jedno ~60 pucanja po njemu, plus artiljeriju (to je jos jedno ~50 postolja na 3+ ) :D). Posto to odbija, ja onda kazem OK, onda sam ja pobedio 32:0 :D. To je valjda Malekitha pogodilo pravo u srce, i onda su nastali komentari kako je jako glupo sto sam ga sabio u cosak (sto radi scenario, a ne ja :D, ali nema veze...), i kako sam ja jako zao covek :D. Elem, jos jednom pokusavam da ponudim da ponovi pomeranje pesadije, on odbija, ja claimujem 32:0 :D. Partija, ako se to tako moze nazvati, se igrala na ovoj tabli.

Novo iskustvo je: nikada mi se nije desilo da nakon 90 minuta pobedim u nultom krugu :twisted: .

Treca partija protiv debeljka (joggy):
Igramo na ovoj tabli. Posto obojca imamo vrlo defanzivne liste, a igra se free for all (meni najgluplji scenario), na kraju smo odigrali draw, stim sto je on meni ubio 1 ekipu, a ja njemu nista. Na startu sam uradio reccee ka njemu, i ubio mu observera (posto je mortare postavio u krug fabrike, bez tog observera je kao da ne postoji). Pokusavao sam da se povlacim i pucam po njemu, ali je to izgledalo ovako: njegov 1 tim stigne u assault, pogodi na 5, ja se ne spasem. U svom sledecem krugu, pokusavam da povucem drugi reccee iz sume (jedini u sumi), bacim bog :D. I tako :D. Tu sam mu ja prepolovio tu pesadiju, i onda se on sakrio u sumu na sredini, odakle nije mrdao. Nesto smo se malo napucavali, on tenkovima, ja AT orudjima i artiljerijom - uglavnom se nista nije desilo. Zatim sam mu ubio 1 postolje mortara (na 2+ sa re-roll-om nisam uspeo da ga spotujem iz prve, a onda sam na 6 kockica bacio jednom 4+ :D), posto mi je bila zarka zelja da mu skinem duplu pitu. On je postavio snajperistu koji je meni skidao polako AA gunove.

Epilog je: ubio mi je reccee ekipu (pali su i moral :D), i ostalo je i meni i njemu bilo ukupano i nevidljivo, pa smo zakljucili da je vreme za draw :D (+1 za njega). Samo bih skrenuo paznju da je on takticki najbolje odigrao od svih mojih protivnika, a njemu bih posebno skrenuo paznju da njegova ekipa za koju on kuka kako nista ne radi, kao sto smo ustanovili, ipak moze da se nosi sa mojim (kako ih on zove): terminatorima ;). Istina, pomaze puno kada je city fight u pitanju, i kada nema napadaca, ali sve jedno - nisam nepobediv, samo treba lepo odigrati ;).

Sve u svemu, lepo proveden dan, zelim jos jednom da iskoristim priliku da se svima zahvalim na ucescu, na lepim partijama (cak i Malekithu - hej, ko zna kada cu opet pobediti u nultom krugu :D, to je jedinstveno iskustvo :D), naucio sam opet raznih nekih sitnih pravila, svaka cast na tome sto je mini turnir imao barem neku nagradu, za razliku od velikog, i svaka cast za prostor u kome nas nisu izbacili u 6, jer bi domar da odspava popodne :D.

Nadam se da cemo se uskoro opet druziti na nekim mini turnirima, pa do sledeceg puta, pozdrav ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Hej, momci, principijelno ne mogu da dozvolim da bilo ko nazove moju knjigu ,,nekom" nagradom. Bar dok je ne pročita i ne dostavi primedbe u pisanom obliku. :D
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Prijatelju, nije se to odnosilo na tebe ;). Nego na neke druge radnjodrsce koji ne rade uvek svoj posao kako bi mi igraci voleli ;).

Red cekanja za citanje mi je poduzi, pa nisam bas siguran kada ces dobiti komentare :D, ali cu se potruditi da dobijes u nekom trenutku ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Posto su ovde komentari,napisacu i ja koju..

Prvo Zuboru i Nemanji hvala sto su organizovali nagrade :applause:
Takodje Zuboru jos jedno hvala sto je organizovao sam turnir. :applause:
Duletu i Hs hvala sto su nas ugostili i omogucili prostor. :applause:

Prva partija vs. Nemanja i tigar lista.

Prvi put protiv te liste,i prvi put sa mojim strelkovima u ovom sastavu.Nemanja me je dosta dobro naprasio avionima,artiljerijom i mitraljezima a i moji komesari su mu dobro pomogli u tome te je more mrtvih bilo velicine prosecne pesadijske liste.Ipak moral na 3+ ume da iznenadi i sacica gardista uspeva da se namesti nekako kod tigrova,flameri rade svoj posao savrseno i puf.Artiljerija mi je skroz zakazala jer je uspela da ukoka samo 1 nebel iz nekog 2-3 pokusaja,sa sve rerolom.Do poslednjeg momenta je bilo crno za mene ali se na kraju pojavila prilika. Vrlo dobra partija!

Druga partija vs. Dzon Vejn i neki englezi

O ovome nemam sta da pisem.Covek mi je jasno stavio do znanja da u ovoj nasoj fow populaciji postoje ljudi kojima je samo stalo do pobede po svaku cenu,i da je spreman da sve uradi kako bi oterao protivnika od sebe.2 sata zvoca kako sam pomerao pesadiju po uzoj strani,tvrdi kako sam pucao i assaultovao po strani,proverava sa sudijom da li moze da mi onemguci dolazak rezervi ako fizicki blokira njihov ulazak na tablu,i "jer mu scenario to dozvoljava" cini vrlo ne fer i drzak potez i sabija moju ionako preveliku hordu na prostor na kome mogu samo jedni preko drugih da stanu.No ne bitno,posle vise od sata "igre" ispostavlja se da infiltracija nije mogla da uspe jer je bila na otvorenom,ja vec iznerviran odbijam da vratim na pocetak partije jer mi se sve vec smucilo i dajem mu tih njegovih 30 poena.
Najgora partija u zivotu!
Dzon Vejn wrote:A igrao sam i protiv coveka kome pesadija seta u stranu, i puca u stranu, jer........ nigde ne pise da to tako ne moze..... :
Dzone,ubuduce procitaj pravila jer ne samo da ne zabranjuju kretanje i pucanje po strani pesadiji,nego to bas postoji u knjizi.Ako treba i citiracu sta pise u knjizi o tome.
Za buduce turnire/lige molim organizatore i sudije da ne igram sa ovim covekom.Igrao sam na turniru da bi se zabavio a ovaj covek je izuzetno neprijatan.

Treca partija vs. Olsianon i DAK

I ovo je bila jako lepa partija.I on i ja se lagano priblizavamo,tu i tamo nesto umre ili explodira,i u drugom potezu deo Ruske horde izlece iz sela u juris,malo plamena i prvi nalet ubija nesto Rusa i nemacke tenkove.Drugi deo cete nalece na halftrackove,opet malo Rusa umre,umru i neki nemci.Ovde protivnik prekida jer mora na put.
Bilo je dobro i krvavo.Da smo mogli da nastavimo ko zna sta je moglo da se desi.Ipak i ovde su flameri bili najbolji,dok je artiljerija bailovala valjda 2 transporta i unistila jedan kao i 1 reece autombil.

Sumirani utisci o listi su sarenoliki.Artiljerija kao jedan od 2 razloga sto sam uzeo skuplju gardu definitivno nije povratila ni polovinu svojih poena (u ukupno ubijenim stvarima),prevelika je za postavku i realno mnogo bi bolje prosao da sam uzeo samo 122mm topove.Pesadija kao takva je bila ok.Ginuli su stvarno junacki,komesar je bio pravi gonic robova,ali se isplatilo sto ih ima zilion.Flameri...njih cu u zlatno da obojim koliko su bili dobri.Drugi razlog sto sam uzeo skuplju gardu se isplatio sa njima u potpunosti,3 spaljena tigra,2 panzer IV i cini mi se i jedan hanomag.Za poene koliko kostaju povratili su ih bar 4 puta.Strafnici..eh ovi jadnici su samo nesto trckarali okolo,nisu stigli ni metak da ispale i ko za inat svi su ih ignorisali maximalno.Jedina vajda sto su mi dali da napadam protiv tigrova.

Jos jednom,Nemanji i Olsianonu hvala za super partije i za preko potrebno iskustvo sta da menjam u ovoj listi.
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Ova opcija da nekoga blacklistujes je cisto zlato :twisted: . Steta sto sam to shvatio pre svega 6-12 meseci...

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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Evo nesto fotki i sa moje strane...
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Dzon Vejn wrote:
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ovaj stalingrad on the cheap uopste ne izgleda toliko lose :D
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Grad uopste nije los, ali je igrivost table diskutabilna ;). Polovina ili trecina te kolicine kucica na jednoj tabli bi bili sasvim ok, a ovako - niko nista ne vidi celu partiju.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Grad uopste nije los, ali je igrivost table diskutabilna ;). Polovina ili trecina te kolicine kucica na jednoj tabli bi bili sasvim ok, a ovako - niko nista ne vidi celu partiju.
ja sam igrao na istoj i bila mi je extra igriva ...

ko vam je kriv pa se nista kretali ...

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E pa ti si motorizovan covek :D... za tebe je normalno da se kreces. A ja sam oklopljen ali cajem i ostalim biljem :D. Nije mi u opisu radnog mesta da se krecem :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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melekith wrote: cini vrlo ne fer i drzak potez i sabija moju ionako preveliku hordu na prostor na kome mogu samo jedni preko drugih da stanu.
Cinam ovaj tvoj prikaz i ne kapiram o cemu ti pricas ...

Gledaj ... Breaktrough se sa defenderove strane igra na 2 nacina.

1. Zauzimanje granicnih linija jer se time protivnik sto vise udaljava od centra table/objectiva
2. Zauzimanjem najdalje moguce tacke u odnosu na deploy zonu Attackera ... recimo ako je tabla ovakva (X i Y su deployment zone defendera, B je deployment zona attackera)

XXXXXBBBBB
XXXXXBBBBB
AAAAAYYYYY
AAAAAYYYYY

to bi znacilo da se defender postavlja u Najlevlje X polja ...

Slabost 1. opcije je da attacker moze da se koncetrise na jedan deo defenerovih snaga i napadne ih svom snagom ... a ne da (recimo kao ti) krene kroz centar table gde ga cekaju sve defenderove jedinice ... ... mogao si da napadnes samo po kraju duze strane tvoje deployment zone i tako sigurno pobedis u assaultu bez ikakvog problema ... Druga stvar je da si mogao takodje 1/2 platoona da drzis u rezervi ...

Slabost 2. opcije je da je onda Attacker manje vise u prvom krugu na objective-u i defender mora da trci ka istom ...

Elem, htedoh reci ... Dzon Vejn je takticki odigrao onako kako je treba i odbacio te sto je dalje mogao ... to je meni Mikaan uradio kada smo prethodni put igrali Breakthrouh i ja takodje nisam mogao da koristim svoje specijalno pravilo (Cobra 3rd Armored free "reconesance move" sa jednom non recce jedinicom jer me je covek lepo blokirao ... i sta ... trebao sam da ne igram sa njim? da ga napadam da je powerplayer? ne kapiram? covek je sagledao situaciju i odradio najbolji moguci takticki potez i to je to ... njemu svaka cast ... a ja sam morao ad hoc da menjam svoje planove/strategiju itd ...

Isto si to mogao i ti da uradis onoga trenutka kada se DZon Vejn postavio ... ali nisi ... vec si odlucio da ne igras jer ne mozes da koristis svoja specijalna pravila/nemas gde da se psotavis (rezerve?) ?!?!?

Nemoj pogresno da me shvatis ali svojim ponasanjem dovesces sebe u situaciju da ostanes bez protivnika koji ce hteti da igraju sa tobom ...
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Nemam nameru da citam sta je Malekith pisao, ali cinjenice su te da ja nisam uradio nista sto nije po pravilima (pobogu, covek se naljutio sto sam ja maksimalno iskoristio svoju deployment zonu????????), i da sve sto sam pitao i saznao da ne moze, nisam uradio (za razliku od nekih). I sa sve tim varanjem koje je napravio bih ga pobedio (ne 32-0, ali bih pobedio dosta), ali mi ovako bilo sladje :D - uvek mi bude simpaticno kad takve individue krenu da se nerviraju :D.

I da se odmah razumemo, ja nemam problem da igram sa njim (kao ni sa bilo kim drugim), cak cu ga sledeci put izazvati :D, i ako odbije, zamolicu administratore da mu force-uju avatar one ocerupane kokoske :D. Isto kao sto nisam imao problem da igram sa Golubom koji je izjavio da ne zeli nikad da igra samnom (a partija nam je bila sasvim ok... barem je moj utisak bio takav, ne bih rekao da smo imali neke sporne trenutke) - zato sto je neku od prepiski na forumu shvatio veoma licno.

A sto se tice moje liste, posto vidim da je to popularna tema :D, ja nisam napravio nista sto drugi nisu, cak mislim da je ta konkretna USSR lista bila daleko gora od moje (samo ipak moras da znas i da igras). 3 tigra su zajebana stvar protiv bilo koje tenkovske liste, italijani koji su defenderi i protiv drugih pesadija, i imaju isto 2+ heroja nisu nista losiji (samo sto se ljudi ne sete da odmah dodeljuju hitove HQ timu, da bi sto pre dobili heroja), Zubor je imao gomilu tenkova sto vecina infantry listi ne moze da resi (kada Zubor ne saradjuje :D - ali Zubor je dobar covek ;) ), itd., itd.

I da ne zaboravimo cinjenicu da je Malekithu ostavljeno da bira izmedju 2 cetvrtine - 1 na kojoj nije bilo nicega i druga na kojoj je bilo itekako conceal terena - nije moj problem sto neko ne ume da izabere cetvrtinu - ja sam sebi izabrao takticki najbolje cetvrtine koje sam mogao - vise bi mi odgovarale druge dve cetvrtine, ali je ovo bio takticki bolji izbor za mene.

Kao sto vec rekoh - ljudi imaju problema sa taktickim stvarima. Nikola je jedini igrao protiv mene kako treba, pa je bio draw. A on je igrao svega par bitaka - ali zna sta smes a sta ne smes da uradis, tj. ne pravi takticke greske ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Aman ljudi, neko plače zbog pokvarenog mleka, a drugi prave sir.
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Ma ne...nisam ja rekao da je iko power player.Uradio je ono sto scenario dozvoljava i to je ok.Izneviralo me je sto je to zapravo validan taktikci potez kojim teras protivnika da ostavi preko pola svoje armije u delayed rezervi (jer fizicki ne moze da stane na taj prostor),potpuno negira sva spec. pravila liste i jedino sto ostaje kao opcija je da se stoji u mestu (oba igraca pocinju ukopana) dok nekome ne pukne film i ne krene napred,dodje ispred protivnika i da mu da ga ovaj jednostavo oduva sa table.Drzanje pola armije u rezervi nije bila opcija jer ono malo sto stoji na stolu ne bi izdrzalo ni prvi krug.Misljenja sam da je breakthru scenario nemesis za strelkovy kao sto je strelk. recimo nemesis za neku listu sa par teskih tenkova.I to nema nikakve veze sa Dzonom.

Ono sto si rekao Zubore za slabost 1.,na toj strani isto nije moglo biti assaulta zbog daljine.Kako god obrnes mogao sam samo da se serviram ispred cevi i da uklonim gomilu figura sa stola.Sta znam,then and there mi je delovalo bezbednije da se probijam po strani na kojoj sam i krenuo jer posle te linije nije bilo nicega sto bi predstavljalo neku opasnost.(znaci ne ka centru nego na levu stranu).

Kao sto rekoh,nisam Dzona krivio sto je iskoristio situaciju.Ja sam pogresio za infiltraciju jer se ova situacija prvi put bar meni desila.Da nisam racunao na nju,mogao sam drugacije da postavim rulju i da se nadam solidnim kockama sa svoje strane.To je sad ne vazno.

Iznervirao sam se iz drugih vec nabrojanih razloga koji nemaju veze sa desavanjem na samom stolu.To sto on ne poznaje opsta pravila fow-a o kretanju i pucanju jedinica nije moj problem.Ako nesto ne znas to nije razlog da prozivas druge da varaju i muvaju.

Partiju sam predao posteno jer sam pogresio u postavci i oko infiltracije i nije mi zao.Njemu poeni,meni novo iskustvo i kraj.

Ocigledno ima neki ozbiljan problem sa mnom koji ne ume da resi.Ako sam mu icim stao na zulj uvek moze da mi kaze sta mu smeta a ne ovako da se prepucavamo.Ja zaista nemam problem sa njim,cak bi ga mozda i sam izazvao da sam igrao sa nemcima.
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i šta kažete na ideju da sa ovim batalimo prepucavanje na pomenutu temu?
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Slazem se!
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Taman posla Pedja, :idea: vidis da je upravo postalo zanimljivo :D.

Malo offtopic, ali, opet sam skinuo AB fajl, i opet nema finaca i sovjeta, a vidim da nema ni svih nemaca (tigar kompanija)... oce li se to u nekom trenutku srediti? Takodje, da li postoji alternativni army builder? Da li je tacno da UK laka kompanija sada moze da vozi 4 stjuarta u HQ? Koja je vazdusna brzina neopterecene lastavice?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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glede AB tek su počele EF nemačke liste tako da strpljenja doći će i ostale

alternativni izvor: http://www.mediafire.com/FoWArmyFiles

da može 4 komada

afričke ili evropske?
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BTW - u Breakthrough samo Defender pocinje u Prepared Positions :wink:

Jedina misija gde su oba igraca ukopana na pocetku je Cauldron ...
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Kad li ce doci EF, kad jos ni afriku nisu kompletirali :-k

Alternativni izvor nema nikakve podatke o tome sta kupujes :(.... nista se ne vidi dok ne odstampas :(. Print preview pomaze, ali opet...

Onda je ta lista dosta gadna.

I... I don't know that.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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jedino što UK Stuarti imaju mali problem
NO HE

i kako nisu koliko ja vidim ima sve, uključujući i Italijane...
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Ako si mislio kako nisu kompletirani nemci, gde se nalazi tigar ceta? Ja sam juce skinuo najnoviji data file od pre par dana...

Ako si mislio kako nisu vidljivi podaci - pa gde su vidljivi? Ja imam samo drop down box, u kome mogu da biram da li hocu ili necu nesto da uzmem, a ne i koliki FP to ima, koliki ROF to ima, itd.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ja imam samo drop down box, u kome mogu da biram da li hocu ili necu nesto da uzmem, a ne i koliki FP to ima, koliki ROF to ima, itd.
To tako (realno) i treba da bude jer je poenta Excell file-a samo da ti olaksa sabiranje (osim u Slovicevom Slucaju kod njegovog home made excel filea :-))... a tvoje je da imas knjigu i u istoj pronadjes ROF/FP/ETC.

Army builder s druge strane pravi kupovinu knjige ... malo manje potrebnom jer sve te podatke vec imas u njemu ...

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Schwere panzerkompanie
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To je verovatno jedina koju nisam pogledao :oops: .... provericu bas danas kad dodjem kuci :D.

A za AB mislim da te ne resava potrebe za knjigom - ti i dalje moras da proveris kako sta radi od spec. pravila, imas gresaka u AB, itd. Ali je meni prilikom pravljenja listi dosta bitna ta preglednost koju AB pruza ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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po meni knjiga nema alternativu
AB je koristan više zarad karakteristika da ne moraš svaki čas da otvaraš i listaš knjigu ali generalno može da bude prilično konfuzan
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A moze li neki veliki mag i parapsiholog ove igre da mi objasni koja je razlika izmedju modela 17 pdr i 17/25 pdr gunova (osim sto 17/25 ima dole uradjeno i turntable postolje - mada su oba turntable)? I da li je ok koristiti 17 pdr kao 17/25 i vice versa?

edit: i kad smo vec zastranili u offtopic: kako se baca save za portee stvari? Konkretno imaju oni neki portee AA kamioncici (bar su ranije bili za UK).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:A moze li neki veliki mag i parapsiholog ove igre da mi objasni koja je razlika izmedju modela 17 pdr i 17/25 pdr gunova (osim sto 17/25 ima dole uradjeno i turntable postolje - mada su oba turntable)? I da li je ok koristiti 17 pdr kao 17/25 i vice versa?

edit: i kad smo vec zastranili u offtopic: kako se baca save za portee stvari? Konkretno imaju oni neki portee AA kamioncici (bar su ranije bili za UK).
u principu razlika je u vizuelnom doživljaju
17/25 pdr je za MW 17pdr top stavljen na lafet 25pdr topa stoga i ime 17/25
nije turntable iako ima ono kružno postolje
običan 17pdr ja za LW ima drugačiji lafet i drugačiji gun shield
istih su karakteristika tako da ako već igraš samo MW preporučujem 17/25

portee imaju save 5+ i nemaju passenger save
portee opcija im daje da mogu da se koriste i na vozilu i "sjahani"
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Da, ali 17 pdr ima box, a 17/25 nema ;). A koliko se secam u vecini MW listi koje su meni opcije je bilo samo 17 pdr topova. A valjda 1 samo lista je imala i 17/25 (zato sam i pitao da li mogu da "glume" jedni druge).

Da, portee sam i mislio da tako radi :(... steta, znaci UK AA su osudjeni na pinovanje, kad nemaju kamioncice sa oklopom 0.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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kutija je samo sa padobranskom posadom
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Sto je meni jos bolje, posto ja imam od svega po malo - 1 vod su specijalci (to su oni koje predvodi Carli), 1 vod su cini mi se sa ITA uniformama, 1 mislim da je standardni UK, artiljerija je isto 4 komada sa rukavim, 4 komada bez, itd. Dakle, taman mi fale padobranci :D. To mi je i bila neka ideja i zelja (da mi sve bude razlicito), sa obzirom na to da ja, jelte, ne pratim istorijsku tacnost i preciznost ;) (odnosno nije mi to razlog skupljanja, vec nesto drugo ;) ).

A ako me bas naljutite sa tom istorijskom tacnoscu :D, skupicu (pink) panther company :P :twisted: , i samo njega cu voditi na turnire :lol:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Super vam izgledaju table i vidim da ste se dobro zabavili.
Drago mi je da je FOW krenuo u dobrom smeru:)
Poz i keep up teh good workz!
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