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http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_c ... ok-web.pdf
A fakat bi bilo lepo kada bi sve figure bile ofarbane kao na linkovima koje si postovao ;)
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Pročitajte Universal Head verziju pravila, mnogo je bolja:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/5 ... -reference

Ukratko, aktiviranje hexa služi da ne možeš dva puta da pomeraš jedinice, kao u Twilight Imperium. Ne možeš dva puta da aktiviraš isto polje, ali mogu da ga aktiviraju dva igrača.

Heroji u Quest fazi mogu da se (kreću, leveluju, leče), a nakon kretanja mogu da se biju ili da rade Quest. Duel traje 4 runde, orb ti daje mogućnost da koristiš special ili oružje (ne može oružje da se koristi bez speciala), rout znači save od rane (a ne rout). Uglavnom, heroji se nikada ne povlače.

Battle smo uglavnom dobro igrali sa tom razlikom što ako neko ima više TIPOVA jedinica iste inicijative, rezolvuje prvo jednu pa drugu po svom izboru, ne obe istovremeno. Prvo se rezolvuju speciali, pa route, pa wound. Wound mora na standing jedinicu. Jedinicu koju započneš da ranjavaš, mora dalje da trpi damage, znači ne može ono đidanje svakom po 1 rana i slično.

Tiebreakeri ko prvi igra u krugu:
1. onaj sa najmanjim naređenjem;
2. onaj ko ima najveću influencu :mrgreen: u tokenima;
3. najveća influenca printed value na kartici rase;

One kartice za koje je Minja rekao da nisu bitne, JAKO su bitne: ono +2 strength (kao da ti na kraju borbe još dve čikice stoje), konverziju rewarda u u rune znate. Council za koji je Minja rekao da je bitan sada mi se čini kao nanebitniji.

Izgleda da se daje po 1 specijalni zadatak za rasu.

Ima još dosta toga, ali ovo mi prvo palo na pamet.
Mој деда је говорио: "Кад год се зарати, ти удри по Бугарима, нећеш погрешити!" Ја кажем: "Кад год се играш, удри Ненада, нећеш погрешити!"
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Eh, jbg***, nikada nisam igrao mnogo na heroje, pa sam zaboravio sve sta mogu da rade.
A, ono nisam rekao da nije bitno, nego su to OPTIONAL pravila, koja mi nikada nismo probali.
Onaj Counsil se meni cinio kao najcesce igran, ali, naravno, nisam ja neki veliki igrac! :D
Ostalo priznajem da nisam dobro interpretovao, ali sam se unapred ogradio da necu moci svega
da se setim, jer sam davno igrao...Borbu najbolje znam, jer sam tim stilom igrao najcesce! :D (bez puno uspeha!)

U svakom slucaju, i meni je vrlo zanimljiva, doduse ogranicava je broj od 4 igraca. Ja bih dao
dobru novu sansu i Dune, i to jos bolje ako nas bude 6 igraca! :D A, uvek dajem novu sansu i
onim kockicama! Ako nista drugo - vredelo je videti trenutak kada se nas game-guru Nenad potpuno
zabagovao pred sarenim naletom kockica i oblika! :lol:

Sve u svemu, jedno vrlo uspelo i dobro igracko vece! Hvala Zuboru sto je bio odlican domacin, kao sto
uvek i jeste. Zeljku na voznji u oba pravca, a Nenadu....zato sto je Nenad! :D :applause:
Arrogance, my friend, arrogance! :-)
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Igra mi se na prvo igranje toliko dopala, da sam prosto sokiran da je ovo izaslo iz FFG 8O . Od Zubora ocekujem slike ;).

Ovaj deo da mozes da udjes u hex koji je neko vec aktivirao mi se najmanje od svega dopada.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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E Nenade, Nenade,kad se setim samo kako sam te slusao dok si pljuvao po FFG igrama ... Eeeeeeee ;)
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A, novi prozori u punom sjaju ;)
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Zekina banda wrote:A, novi prozori u punom sjaju ;)
:applause: :mrgreen: :applause: :mrgreen:
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Minja, zasto nosis sminku a'la Rakoon style?? :mrgreen:
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To mi je stil! Da izgledam kao da sam pobegao grobaru sa lopate! :D
Arrogance, my friend, arrogance! :-)
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i, kakav je REX??
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Pre davanja finalne ocene, trebalo bi ga odigrati u 6 igraca.

U ovoj partiji koju smo odigrali, balans rasa mi se cini jako losim. Randomness (i uticaj srece) je prevelik za moj ukus. Moze se igrati, ali mislim da ima mnogo boljih igara out there ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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REX je dobar u sest ce biti odlican ;) Nenadove komentare ne slusaj nikada ... njemu nikad nista nije balansirano ... cak ni Qwirkle ;) ...
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žubor wrote:REX je dobar u sest ce biti odlican ;) Nenadove komentare ne slusaj nikada ... njemu nikad nista nije balansirano ... cak ni Qwirkle ;) ...
Qwirkle, Samuraji i Portoriko, zavise od onog ko igra pre tebe. Ali, Quirkle je zakon.
Mој деда је говорио: "Кад год се зарати, ти удри по Бугарима, нећеш погрешити!" Ја кажем: "Кад год се играш, удри Ненада, нећеш погрешити!"
"кад би у црквама био добар нет, сви би се замонашили"
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Spisak gresaka:

- City tokeni su odmah otkriveni a ne tek kada stanes na grad.
- Pre prvog kruga postoji besplatni mustering.
- Dobijaju se 2 a ne 1 quest karta. I to iskljucivo setup quest kartice (koliko sam za sada shvatio, izgleda da ima i drugih quest kartica).
- Te kartice koje dobijes, bas njihove tileove dobijas da rasporedis (sto ima smisla - da ti barem prvi kvestovi ne budu na suprotnoj strani mape)
- Pocetni heroj je uvek iz tvoje frakcije.
- Kod setupa mape, 1. igrac postavlja centralni tile, a onda ostali u krug nadovezuju na njega, tako da svaki novi postavljeni tile dodiruje barem 2 ivice prethodno postavljenog sa 2 ivice novopostaljvenog tilea.
- Pocetni gradovi moraju da imaju barem 2 ivice na hexovima koje nisu okruzene plavim / crvenim ivicama. I ok, moraju da budu udaljeni 4 hexa jedan od drugog. Ako je to nemoguce, onda 1 grad moze da bude na 3 ivice. Takodje, 1. igrac postavlja sve pozicije, ali poslednji bira koja je njegova pozicija (2. igrac ima pravo da prvi bira svoj grad).
- igra se zavrsava na kraju sezone kada neko skupi 6 runa (dakle ne instant, nego se zavrsi cela sezona). U suprotnom traje 6 godina, na kraju pobedjuje onaj sa najvise runa, tie se resava sa time ko ima vise influencea, a ponovni tie sa pocetnim influenceom.
- Heroj ima pravo da se leci ILI trenira ILI mrda (mi smo znali samo za mrdanje :D). Samo kada se pomera, ima pravo da pokusa da se bije ili resi kvest (ne mozes zaustaviti protivnickog igraca i potuci se sa njim - zato mi je i bila nejasna ambush kartica koju sam imao :D).
- Mozes imati vise unita nego sto imas hrane bilo kad. Samo ce tokom zime da umru. Dakle kad regrutujes, mozes preterano regrutovati.
- Fate kartice ipak ne treba vracati nazad u dek dok se ne istrose sve... ima razloga zasto.
- Kada se rezolvuje bilo sta od neke sezone, rezolvuje se redosledom kako ste dali kartice u prethodnoj sezoni (najmanje karte prvo) - moze biti bitno, recimo kod umiranja trupa ;).
- Takodje, kada je neresno sa karticama (recimo svi stavimo dvojke), ne igra se u krug, nego onaj ko ima najvise influenca igra prvi.
- Kada se neki hex jednom aktivira, uniti iz njega vise ne mogu nikako da se mrdaju. Cak ni pomocu kartice 1. Takodje, kartica 1 ne dozvoljava heroju da izvrsi kvest (mislim da smo ovo dobro igrali), ali ima pravo da se pobije.
- Heroji mogu da izadju iz aktiviranih polja.
- Uniti (i heroji) koji su rutovani, ne mogu da se pomeraju (nisam siguran da smo ovo postovali).
- Pitao sam se svo vreme zasto mojim knightovima pise FAST, kada to nicemu ne sluzi - osim sto mogu da se pomere 3 polja pomocu kartica 2 i 3 (kartica 1 nema uticaj).
- Povlacenjem se mozes pomeriti sa polja koje je vec aktivirano (jedini izuzetak).
- Vrlo vazno sto nismo znali: crveni hexovi su impassible OSIM ako imas neku kartu koja ti omogucava (bitno je da znamo da ipak postoji mogucnost).
- Ako se prilikom setupa mape napravi rupetina u mapi (sto je moguce i legalno), flyeri i slicno ne mogu prolaziti tuda.
- Mozes imati vise od 8 jedinica kada pokreces bitku (npr. dovuces 16 jedinica na protivnika). Medjutim po zavrsetku bitke, moras uraditi retreat tako da nigde nemas preko 8.
- Prilikom diplomatije sa neutralcima, srebrna karta osim sto pomera unite na susedni hex, cini ih i rutovanim. Takodje, crvena karta ne znaci da moras da se bijes, vec mozes i da se povuces.
- Kada su ti neutralci ally, ako u borbi ostanu sami ne postaju automatski neutralni (npr. mogu se povuci u tvoju areau i ostati tvoji). Takodje, kada ih pomeras, mozes ih pomerati BEZ pratnje, bitno je samo da zavrse u area gde tebe ima.
- Ako pomocu kartica neutralce pomerite negde gde je neki igrac, oni postaju njegovi. Ako necije allied neutralce pomerite na prazno, oni postaju neutral.
- Takodje nije lose znati kako koji tip unita radi:
Triangle: Triangle units are the most
common units. During battle, Fate cards
cause them to miss 40% of the time, and
deal a maximum of 1 damage. Triangle
units are often targeted by other units’
special abilities (such as the Dragon’s
ability to kill three triangle units).

Circle: Circle units are about as weak as
triangle units, but their special abilities
are triggered twice as often. Heroes are
considered circle units during duels (due
to their circular bases).

Rectangle: Rectangle units usually
represent calvary units and often have
more than 1 health. Rectangle units
successfully attack more often than
triangle units, and usually can
deal up to 2 damage.

Hexagon: Hexagon units represent large
and extremely powerful units. These
units usually have more than 2 health,
successfully attack more often than
rectangle units, and usually can
deal up to 3 damage.

- Ne postoji neutral alignment. Samo dobar i zao. Odredjeno je pomocu ikonice na player sheetu, ispod ikonice frakcije.

Tek sam stigao do bitke :D. Dodacu jos kasnije :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Spisak gresaka:

- Dobijaju se 2 a ne 1 quest karta. I to iskljucivo setup quest kartice (koliko sam za sada shvatio, izgleda da ima i drugih quest kartica).
- Te kartice koje dobijes, bas njihove tileove dobijas da rasporedis (sto ima smisla - da ti barem prvi kvestovi ne budu na suprotnoj strani mape) (edi: i onda VRATIS te kartice nazad pa vuces questove)
- Kod setupa mape, 1. igrac postavlja centralni tile, a onda ostali u krug nadovezuju na njega, tako da svaki novi postavljeni tile dodiruje barem 2 ivice prethodno postavljenog sa 2 ivice novopostaljvenog tilea.
- Mozes imati vise unita nego sto imas hrane bilo kad. Samo ce tokom zime da umru. Dakle kad regrutujes, mozes preterano regrutovati.
- Heroji mogu da izadju iz aktiviranih polja.
- Uniti (i heroji) koji su rutovani, ne mogu da se pomeraju (nisam siguran da smo ovo postovali).
- Pitao sam se svo vreme zasto mojim knightovima pise FAST, kada to nicemu ne sluzi - osim sto mogu da se pomere 3 polja pomocu kartica 2 i 3 (kartica 1 nema uticaj). (edit: ovo,je Minja rekao na pocetku)
- Povlacenjem se mozes pomeriti sa polja koje je vec aktivirano (jedini izuzetak).
- Vrlo vazno sto nismo znali: crveni hexovi su impassible OSIM ako imas neku kartu koja ti omogucava (bitno je da znamo da ipak postoji mogucnost).(edit: ovo smo znali?! Ja sam prelazio sa karticom)
- Ako se prilikom setupa mape napravi rupetina u mapi (sto je moguce i legalno), flyeri i slicno ne mogu prolaziti.

Ovo gore smo sve igrali kako treba ;)
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Meni svasta od toga nije bilo bas tako jasno ;).

Elem nastavak kaze:
- ne mozes igrati kartice na neutralce.
- kao sto sam i rekao, PRVO attacker igra start of battle kartice, pa TEK ONDA defender. Ne simulatno.
- ovaj deo nisam siguran kako ste igrali sa Zeljkovim developmentima, ali tek kada dodje do brojanja ko ima koliku snagu, tek onda mogu da se koriste developmenti (fear). I to pre nego sto brojis snagu.
- bez obzira sto nisi izgubio teritoriju na kojoj je stronghold, ako na kraju bitke ima standing enemy, stronghold postaje damaged (ili destroyed ako je vec damaged) - doduse nakon brojanja snage.
- Ovo nismo imali situaciju, ali da se zna - kada trebas da osvojis protivnicki stronghold, mozes da sjebes svoj (ako nemas vise strongholda) da bi postavio na novu teritoriju.
- ako imas 2 tipa jedinica iste inicijative (neutralci), kada dodje adekvatna inicijativa prvo resolvujes JEDAN tip unita, pa onda sta prezivi resolvuje DRUGI tip unita iste inicijative.
- Kada rutujes unit, moras da rutujes UNDAMAGED unite (to malo ublazava pegaze koji su mi se inace cini prejakim).
- Kada povredjujes unit, moras da povredis onaj koji nije routed (nema onog djidanja koje smo radili).
- Takodje, kada krenes da delis woundove, nema ono svakome po 1 wound, nego ako vec imas neki damaged unit, moras prvo njemu da dodelis wound. Tek kad vise nemas standing mete, tek onda mozes routed jedinicama da dajes woundove.
- Kada se povlacis, moras da povuces SVE jedinice u JEDNO polje. Nema ono malo ovde, malo onde.
- E heroji MOGU da budu neutralni (zeleni). Dakle oni realno ne odgovaraju ni jednima ni drugima, zbog dezertiranja. Dakle good, neutral ili evil alignment za heroje, a good ili evil za rase (nema neutral).
- Kada dobijes special sa herojem u borbi, mozes da koristis karticu (samo tada!) ILI da napravis damage. Znaci nema ono ja sad koristim svojih 16 kartica :D. Samo kad dobijes special na fate karti.
- MAX mozes da imas 3 heroja.
- Shodno tome i max 3 kvest karte :D.
- Ovo nismo ni koristili pa da spomenem: heal ti leci sve rane, ali mozes da ga radis samo u friendly teritoriji, a treningom mozes da povecas jedan stat za 2 poena ili 2 stata za po 1 poen (ni jedan stat ne moze da se poveca vise od +2).
- ne znam zasto je ovo bitno, ali su napomenuli da kada heroji rade nesto u kvest fazi, tada nije niciji krug??? (mozda da ne bi mogle da se koriste neke kartice, ne znam).
- i sad zasto je bitno da kartice iz fate deka ostanu napolju: uvek mozes pogledati discard pile, da bi video koliko kojih tipova kartica je proslo (bitno ako juris gold kod resavanja kvesta, ili eventualno kod bitaka, ako su prosle recimo sve MISS kartice za trouglove).
- ako se nadju na istom polju, heroji mogu trgovati kartice (mozes dati kartice drugom svom heroju).
- barem ja nisam naleteo do sada na to, ali heroji mogu imati max 1 oruzje i 1 oklop.
- ni ovo ne znam da li je bitno, ali NE SMES da kazes koji ability imas na kartici na heroju (posto su sve kartice face down dok ih ne okrenes u borbi - tek tada postaju javne).
- kada pobedis protivnickog heroja u borbi (koja traje 4 runde), otimas mu sve reward karte.
- rout ikone u duelima heroja sluze da spasis sebi onoliko rana koliko ima zastavica (ne da nateras protivnika da bezi)
- rutovan heroj se bori normalno, nije instant dead (nije da smo imali tu situaciju, ali nije lose znati...)
- nisam video takav kvest, ali izgleda da ima kvestova gde trebas da odes na neko polje i pobijes se sa neutralcem - taj neutralac ne postoji na mapi, i samo se privremeno postavi radi duela.
- Kada pobedis protivnickog heroja u duelu, a imas jos svojih heroja na istom polju, onda mozes da dodelis osvodjene reward kartice i onom heroju koji nije bio u borbi.
- Ako heroj umre van borbe, ili umru oba heroja, onda reward kartice ostaju na tabli, i prvi ko dodje moze da ih pokupi :D.
- Kada te heroj dezertira, njegove reward karte se diskarduju face up, i ne mesaju se nazad u dek, i ne ostaju na tabli.
- kako se dobijaju dragon rune: kad god trebas da dobijes dragon rune, imas pravo da (redosledom):
1) diksradujes do 2 false rune
2) uzmes 1 dragon runu i 1 false runu i randomizujes ih
3) postavis licem na dole OBE rune na friendly ILI NEUTRALNU teritoriju, koja vec nema runu. Sve sto ne moze da se postavi, a da prati ova pravila, se diskarduje.
- na svim karticama na kojima ne pise "receive 1 dragon rune" nego pise tipa place or move rune tokens, tu radis samo to sto se kazem, bez ovih ostalih stepova (nema skidanja runa, nema dodatnih false runa, itd.).
- mozes da gledas rune u friendly teritorijama ILI TAMO GDE IMAS heroja :D (cak i ako je protivnicka teritorija u pitanju).
- Ne smes da okrenes runu da je svi vide, ali smes da kazes (ili slazes) sta je ispod.
- Kartice koje povuces ne mozes da koristis do sledece sezone (znaci ono sto povuces recimo u prolece, mozes tek u leto da koristis).
- Jos jednom naglaseno: kartice koje se koriste u borbi ili duelu, mogu da se koriste samo ako imas svoje unite ili heroja u borbi ;).
- Ne mogu da se setim da li smo rekli da je limit 8 ili 10 kartica (taktickih) u ruci, ali da se zna da je 10 ;).

Sutra na poslu cu da prelistam jos ostatak "special rules", pa cu dopuniti ovo ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Eh morao sam da prelistam do kraja, elem jos ovo nismo igrali dobro:

- karta broj 2 ti omogucava da imas 1 bitku i 1 diplomatiju (ne bi nam palo na pamet)
- resurs na strongholdu ti omogucava da uzmes bonus resurs, ali samo onaj koji se nalazi na toj teritoriji
- Exploration Token opciono pravilo dodaje jos jednu stranicu nekih specijalnih pravila, za koja ne vidim kako tacno doprinose igri (ostim sto moras stalno da listas sta koje polje radi).
- Epic Game Variant je varijanta kada se subotom okupimo na vreme :D.

Sve ostalo sto nisam naveo smo igrali kako treba, sto ce reci:
- igra se zove Runewars. :mrgreen:

O:)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Posto sam caletu nabavio sve sto moze da se nabavi na buvljaku prosle subote, ove sam slobodan i kaparisem mesto za runewars, ako ce biti okupljanja naravno :)
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Sto se mene tice moze. Pitanje je da li ponosni vlasnik igre moze u subotu ili ako ne moze, da li je voljan da nam ostavi istu na igranje ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:- Pre prvog kruga postoji besplatni mustering.
Ne. Imaš početne jedinice KAO da si radio mustering, ali možeš da ih staviš bilo gde u homeland.
- Dobijaju se 2 a ne 1 quest karta. I to iskljucivo setup quest kartice (koliko sam za sada shvatio, izgleda da ima i drugih quest kartica).
- Te kartice koje dobijes, bas njihove tileove dobijas da rasporedis (sto ima smisla - da ti barem prvi kvestovi ne budu na suprotnoj strani mape)
Netačno. Odakle znaš gde ćeš da sediš? Te dve kartice služe samo za build mape. Posle se vraćaju u dek, mešaju i deli se po 2 nove kartice.
- igra se zavrsava na kraju sezone kada neko skupi 6 runa (dakle ne instant, nego se zavrsi cela sezona).
Netačno, odmah.
- Mozes imati vise unita nego sto imas hrane bilo kad. Samo ce tokom zime da umru. Dakle kad regrutujes, mozes preterano regrutovati.
Netačno. Jedinice preko 8 umiru. Preko 8 može samo dok u borbi i to dok se ne završi.
- Fate kartice ipak ne treba vracati nazad u dek dok se ne istrose sve... ima razloga zasto.
Tako je. Mada, mislim da će bidi uvedeno home rule u kojem nema gledanja discard dekova.
- Takodje, kartica 1 ne dozvoljava heroju da izvrsi kvest (mislim da smo ovo dobro igrali), ali ima pravo da se pobije.
Prvi deo rečenice je tačan, drugi nije. Nema pravo da se pobije.
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- MAX mozes da imas 3 heroja.
- Shodno tome i max 3 kvest karte :D.
Obe rečenice su tačne, samo nisu povezane.
- i sad zasto je bitno da kartice iz fate deka ostanu napolju: uvek mozes pogledati discard pile, da bi video koliko kojih tipova kartica je proslo (bitno ako juris gold kod resavanja kvesta, ili eventualno kod bitaka, ako su prosle recimo sve MISS kartice za trouglove).
Apsolutno zabraniti pomoću home rule
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Hm, i ja sam zainteresovan za Runewars... Definitivno nas je previše za sredu... Mada, ima napravljena custom frakcija za petog igrača:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/7 ... rr-dwarves
Mој деда је говорио: "Кад год се зарати, ти удри по Бугарима, нећеш погрешити!" Ја кажем: "Кад год се играш, удри Ненада, нећеш погрешити!"
"кад би у црквама био добар нет, сви би се замонашили"
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odavno se niste ovako primili na neku (za nas) novu igru ;)
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- Pa na to sam i mislio: u pocetku i nemas stronghold, tako da ne bi ni mogao regularan muster da uradis ;)
- Znas gde ces sedeti po principu "mrzi me da se pomeram odavde". Medjutim, trecim listanjem nadasve jasnih i uputnih FFG pravila sam ustanovio da si u pravu.
- Ovo za sezonu sam siguran da sam tako procitao samo ne mogu opet da nadjem, naci cu.
- Nisi shvatio: mozes regrutovati 8 unita, ako imas 5 hrane. Kada dodje zima, umrece visak.
- Nece biti home rulesa ;). Zajebite to.
- Drugim listanjem prejasnih FFG pravila, izgleda da si u pravu za heroje, ali cu i ovo jos jednom detaljno pregledati.
- Retreats: When figures are forced to retreat from an area, the controller of the units must move all retreating units to one adjacent area. (boldovano je i u samim pravilima)
- Bez home rules.
- Whenever a player is instructed to “receive one dragon tune,” he performs the following steps:... dakle radis sve tri stvari ako hoces.
- Nisi u pravu, prelistaj pravila jos jednom. (Some Season cards or Tactics cards instruct players to place (or move) rune tokens to specific areas. These cards do not use the term “receive one dragon rune” and only cause the specified tokens to be placed; the cards do not also place false runes unless specified.)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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- Players continue resolving seasons until one player controls six areas containing dragon runes. (po mom misljenju ovo znaci da ne prekidas iste sekunde, mada su mi na trece citanje nejasna pravila - jedna ukazuju da se odmah zavrsava, a druga da se igra do kraja sezone... sto je ok, to je FFG :D).

a ono za heroje:
- strana 14: "Strategize: The main use of this Order card is to move units and heroes into adjacent friendly or empty areas (that may be more tactically significant). The Supremacy Bonus ability
allows the player to draw a number of Tactics cards as indicated by his resource dials."
- strana 33 (detaljnije): This order allows the player to move any of his units and/or heroes into adjacent friendly or empty areas as described on page 16.
- strana 16: Unlike units, heroes may move through enemy and neutral areas. Heroes do not start battles when they move into an enemy or neutral area (although they can start Duels – see page 28).
- strana 28: When a player moves his hero into an area containing an enemy hero during the Quest Phase, he may start a duel with the enemy hero in an attempt to defeat him and take his Reward cards.

Dakle mozes da pokrenes duel.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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- i sad zasto je bitno da kartice iz fate deka ostanu napolju: uvek mozes pogledati discard pile, da bi video koliko kojih tipova kartica je proslo (bitno ako juris gold kod resavanja kvesta, ili eventualno kod bitaka, ako su prosle recimo sve MISS kartice za trouglove).
Apsolutno zabraniti pomoću home rule
da da ... kakvo crno gledanje karata i racunanje statistike ;)
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Ja ne igram sa tim opcijama "ovo pravilo mi se ne svidja" ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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vaz, ti citaj pravila ;)
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Ja klikcem EVE ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:a ono za heroje:
- strana 14: "Strategize: The main use of this Order card is to move units and heroes into adjacent friendly or empty areas (that may be more tactically significant). The Supremacy Bonus ability allows the player to draw a number of Tactics cards as indicated by his resource dials."
- strana 33 (detaljnije): This order allows the player to move any of his units and/or heroes into adjacent friendly or empty areas as described on page 16.
- strana 16: Unlike units, heroes may move through enemy and neutral areas. Heroes do not start battles when they move into an enemy or neutral area (although they can start Duels – see page 28).
- strana 28: When a player moves his hero into an area containing an enemy hero during the Quest Phase, he may start a duel with the enemy hero in an attempt to defeat him and take his Reward cards.
Dakle mozes da pokrenes duel.
...during the Quest Phase, he may start a duel...
Dakle, samo u Quest fazi se započinje duel.
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Tako je. A ovde dole pise "as described on". Dakle ipak moze, jer tada radi "kao da je u toj fazi".
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Tako je. A ovde dole pise "as described on". Dakle ipak moze, jer tada radi "kao da je u toj fazi".
Da, ali tu se misli na pomeranje, a ne na započinjanje duela. Dakle ipak ne može.

A i piše u Frequently Overlooked Rules, str. 40 pravila:
Heroes may only attempt Quests, duel heroes, and resolve exploration tokens during the Quest Phase of the Summer season, not as a result of any Order cards
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Dodato u interni "FAQ". Vidis, tu stranu nisam ni video, moram sad to da prelistam :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Dodato u interni "FAQ". Vidis, tu stranu nisam ni video, moram sad to da prelistam :D.
Obrisao sam gde sam te pogrešno ispravljao.
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Bez brige, sastavio sam "interni FAQ". Tako da imamo sve odgovore i pitanja. Preskocio si deo sa hranom, koji izgleda opet nisi razumeo. I one delove, koji me uzasno podsecaju na neke pojedince, koje necemo imenovati "meni se ovo pravilo ne svidja, pa se necemo igrati sa njim, jer sam tako u mogucnosti". ;)
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Bez brige, sastavio sam "interni FAQ". Tako da imamo sve odgovore i pitanja. Preskocio si deo sa hranom, koji izgleda opet nisi razumeo. I one delove, koji me uzasno podsecaju na neke pojedince, koje necemo imenovati "meni se ovo pravilo ne svidja, pa se necemo igrati sa njim, jer sam tako u mogucnosti". ;)
Hrana ide ovako:
Pre početka borbe, napadač može da ima koliko hoće jedinica na jednom polju. Kada se bitka završi, ako napadač ili odbrana ima više od 8 jedinica, višak jedinica se povlači.
U svim ostalim trenucima, nikada ne možeš da imaš više od 8 jedinica na jednom polju.
Ako ti je limit za hranu 5, možeš da imaš 8 jedinica, ali ne možeš da imaš više od toga (izuzev ako napadaš).
U zimu se usklađuje.

Nadam se da smo se sada usaglasil i po ovome.
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ja slobodan utorkom i cetvrtkom od 18h....

petkom od 20h....


ako vam se uklapa izvolte...i ne samo za runewars (moze i d...a i k...e itd...)
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Pa utorak se onda javlja kao dan koji je na raspolaganju najvise, jer:

- Zubor moze utorak, sreda, cetvrtak
- Nikola moze utorak
- Moma moze utorak, cetvrtak
- Dorian moze utorak, cetvrtak
- Minja moze generalno preko nedelje (, samo ne znam tacno koje dane?)
- ja mogu gotovo uvek, samo ne mogu da spajam dane (ne moram sportske aktivnosti bas nekim odredjenim danom, ali ne mogu 2-3 dana za redom da spajam).
Ako ti je limit za hranu 5, možeš da imaš 8 jedinica, ali ne možeš da imaš više od toga (izuzev ako napadaš). U zimu se usklađuje.
Upravo sam o ovom delu govorio ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: Weekend Warriors Subota 09. Jun - Novi Beograd

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Dzon Vejn wrote:Pa utorak se onda javlja kao dan koji je na raspolaganju najvise, jer:

- Zubor moze utorak, sreda, cetvrtak
- Nikola moze utorak
- Moma moze utorak, cetvrtak
- Dorian moze utorak, cetvrtak
- Minja moze generalno preko nedelje (, samo ne znam tacno koje dane?)
- ja mogu gotovo uvek, samo ne mogu da spajam dane (ne moram sportske aktivnosti bas nekim odredjenim danom, ali ne mogu 2-3 dana za redom da spajam).
Ako ti je limit za hranu 5, možeš da imaš 8 jedinica, ali ne možeš da imaš više od toga (izuzev ako napadaš). U zimu se usklađuje.
Upravo sam o ovom delu govorio ;).
Zubor je ove nedelje mogao u utorak,sredu,cetvrtak ....
Inace obozava petak ;)
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Re: Weekend Warriors Subota 09. Jun - Novi Beograd

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