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Fantasy Flight otvorio deo sajta o ovoj igri koja bi trebala skoro da izadje. Bio sam skeptican jer mi se stvarno ne igra hex-based kopija kompjuterske igre (to ne moz' na dobro da izadje). Svom srecom, igra nije ni blizu toga.

Link: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/starcraft.html
(kliknuti About za srazmerno fino objasnjenje osnovnih mehanika igre; highlight: nema kockica)
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kad sam video najavu ovoga josh pre 6 meseci or so, ja sam sebi rekao "ovu igru moram uzeti pa makar bilo i najvetje sranje koje je ovaj svet ikada video" ... sretjom, daleko od toga, chak sam i ricku napomenuo par puta da mi poruchi jednu kad bude moglo :)

tako da tje biti vishe od mene kada je budem isprobao, do tada svi mozhemo da chitamo dopadljive infos/abouts...
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Imas sada vec cela pravila na sajtu za download u pdf formatu.
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prochitah pravila - i josh vishe mi se svidja...

shteta pa nema stvari iz BWa, ali mozhda tje to izbaciti kao exp... realno, medic bi se savim fino uklopio da kao support daje +1/+2 na health, svi bi se manje/vishe super uklopili osim Dark Templara i Lurkera - njih bi morali nekako da dorade/prerade... ili da ih ograniche na dvojcu, to bi isto radilo... kolko sam primetio, Cloaking ti ne kazhe da ne mozhesh da pucash, nego da ne mozhesh da ga ubijesh (povuche se).
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The Industry rumours are that Starcraft - The Boardgame won't be out until the end of October.
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Da li je neko igrao?
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DG i ja imamo igru... za njega ne znam, ja igrao par puta i dobra je. verujem da je i on igrao par desetina puta jer sam ga video dvaput kako donosi to u Rikov klub :)
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I jos uvek mi stoji kod Ricka u klubu, dva meseca nikako da je odnesem kuci. Igra je sjajna, meni najbolja igra te vrste koju sam igrao. Combat mehanika sa kartama i research su stvarno do jaja.
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Pa ako je kod rika, daj da odigramo neki put :D :D
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posle odigranih par partija tvrdim da terani nemaju sanse u late game kombatu
tj nemogu da ubiju svoju vrednost u resorsima oni moraju u toku prvih krugova da se razviju tako da samo cuvaju svoje teritorije sto im trebaju za win
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dublerius wrote:posle odigranih par partija tvrdim da terani nemaju sanse u late game kombatu
tj nemogu da ubiju svoju vrednost u resorsima oni moraju u toku prvih krugova da se razviju tako da samo cuvaju svoje teritorije sto im trebaju za win
o chemu prichash sinak? i shta je tachno tamo "late game"? kad se svi natechuju kao svinje pa se bijete "eto tako"?
sa teranima je uvek palila osnovna strategija... spam marincima i baticama, i pozhuri na tenkove ako mozhesh ... nishta ovde nije "imba", a sve tje biti josh bolje kada (ako) naprave Brood Wars ekspanziju, a zaista ne vidim razlog da ne naprave - sve jedinice se mogu fino ubaciti...

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medic - dodaje +1 HP svim living terranima, i assist only je
valkirie - Air to Air only, air-only splash damage(?)

dark templar - bije, cloaking
Corsair - Air to Air
Dark Archon - assist only, maelstorm(?)

Lurker - cloaked, +2 damage, assist only(?)
Devourer - Air to Air, pravi se iz mutaliska, acid spores(?)

kao i par novih karata za neke frakcije, npr jedna sa ultraliskom gde on ima +2 HP itd...
uuu, mozhda josh po jedna persona za svaku frakciju?
terani - UED, Zerg - mmm... tough one... Terran overmind? Duran definitivno ne... Protoss - Zeratul?
SC:boardgame je najbolje pocheti napadom, kao shto je utvrdjeno na prvoj test partiji (sorry DG) :)
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Pridruzujem se pitanju sta je late game. Meni su se sve partije do sada zavrsavale otprilike kada igraci stignu do prve third tier jedinice iz jedne zgrade. Teransku ultiamtivnu letelicu prepelicu sam do sada video jednom na tabli, na primer.

A Teranci su, po meni, verovatno najjaca rasa jer sta god ada radis sa njima, to funkcionise. Skoro sve jedinice pucaju i u vazduh i po zemlji, malo toga te moze iznenaditi i neretko mi se desava, uz stim pack-ove, da jedan za jedan gubim Protoss zealote na teranske marince. U kojoj varjanti marinci su jeftiniji pa je Protoss vise izgubio.

U stvari, Protoss mi izgledaju kao najzahtevnija rasa u igri. Uporno pokusavam da provalim 'ispravnu' taktiku sa njima, al' manji broj jedinica mi uporno smeta, bez obzira na pojedinacnu snagu svake.
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dva zealota i dragoon su fin strike force protiv bilo koje dve jedinice... za svake dve (ili nachet par) dodaj josh jednog zilota i draguna...

naravno, protosi trebaju (kao i u RTSu) da idu na reaver drop... koji je u ovoj igri nemilosrdan jer reaver ima 10/10 statove... i pretty much ubija SVE shto ne leti :) a to skupljaju ziloti + draguni ...

o kerijerima netju ni da pricham, bukvalno - poshto ih nikad nisam video u praksi ali po kartama su kickass ...
trust me DG, sa protosima samo jednog reavera u strikeforce i pochistitjesh ga ko nishta... reaver + par scoutova su super strike force protiv bilo chega.

naravno, ne uzimaj ovo previshe "zdravo za gotovo", iako su river i dva skauta super strike force protiv npr 5 marinaca, protiv vishe jedinica "istog tiera" a kad kazhem istog tiera mislim i slichnoj po statistikama a ne samo na isti tech tier tje ti trebati srazmerno vetji strike force... obichno je dovoljno pomnozhiti trenutni strike force sa dva, mislim da dva rivera i chetri scouta teshko gube bilo koji fajt given da nemash "limp" karte, sa kojima tjesh imati po 5/5 u kojem sluchaju si kinda screwed ma shta imao kod sebe :)
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Nije to problem. Problem je sto meni nista ne koristi cinjenica da jedan reaver jebe keve ako meni padne planeta jer sam pravio reavera. Iskrca mi Zerg na svako polje na planeti dva zerglinga. Ja to jednostavno ne mogu da odbijem u kratkom roku. Jos gore, Zerg napadne sa jednim zerglingom plus jednim devourerom. Odigra plague. Reaver je mrtav. Samo u jedinicama, on je potrosio manje. A Reaver reasearch-ovani napad se vraca nazad u tech deck.

Nema u opste govora o toem da li su jaki. Jesu, strasno su jaki. Ali uvek nedostaje jedinica, sto znaci smanjena mogucnost kontrole teritorije, sto znaci manje resursa, sto znaci jos manje jedinica. Ima tu negde balans, ponekad tokom partije mi se ucini da sam ga potrefio, ili makar bio blizu, al' da me ubijes ako umem da odgonetnem koji je tacno.
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ako ne odesh u NS sad za vikend, mozhemo da odigramo koju budutji da tje dobar deo warmachines ekipe otitji pa tje biti praznih stolova. pa da vidimo u chemu je problem.

i to malo go*no se zove defiler... plague je najzlija stvar svih vremena :) da, zlija chak i od EMPa... speaking of that, dal uopshte ima EMPa u ovom boardgame-u? (science vessel-ov emp)

taman dodje i Hypodermic, vrbujemo i Tjiru da odigra jednu poshto on ionako samo sedi tamo za shankom i nishta ne radi i eto nam fine partijice :) ako pak radi neshto shto se ne da prekinuti zbog partije SCa, pardoniram...
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otje li biti te partije sutra? :)
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Uf. Tesko. Stvari koje sam mislio da cu danas srediti za diplomski jos nisu gotove, a to ce mi pojesti onda veci deo dana sutra.

Neki dan iza vikenda moze. Ja sam u glavnom slobodan posle 4.
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hahahah, josh uvek DG? pa ja sam mislio da si ti ozbiljan student..... :)
bitje neki dan, mozhda sreda?
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Da li se igra negde ?
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Ja nemam vremena ni za mnogo krace stvari, ali ako se ljudima igra a nemaju igru, mogu od ponedeljka bilo koji dan da ostavim Starcraft u klubu na neodredjeno.
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Ja sam takodje za partiju.
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Moze li u neku Nedelju da se nadjemo da odigramo?
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Sledetju mozhda.
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Izasla expanzija.
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Odavno naruchio ;)
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Procitao sam pravila, nisam nesto odushevljen...
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Kupio sam igru pre nekih dva meseca i svima sa kojima sam igrao se svidela (dva druga i jedna drugarica). Mislio sam da ce ljudi imati problema sa bitkom bez kockica ali je to ono shto im se mozda najvishe i svidja, narochito zbog toga shto je faktor srece sveden na najmanju meru (mnogo je manje bitan nego u , npr, Twilight Imperiumu 3rd Ed gde se bitke odvijaju sa d10 a la Axis and Allies). Takodje je igra pristojne duzine i pored velike strateshke dubine (5 od 6 igara koje sam igrao su ili zavrshene ili je pobednik bio ochigledan, za razliku od TI3 gde su 2 od 5 partija bile zavrshene, ostale nisu bile ni blizu). Jedan od drugova kaze za nju da je veoma bliska shahu - u smislu da mora dosta da se razmishlja i da nema mnogo srece.
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Dobar je taj starcraft. Josh bolji je sa ovim Brood Warom jer je sada svaka frakcija jedinstvena i ima neki svoj thing. Takodje, mozhesh da birash razlichite stilove igre sa svakom.
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Floating World wrote:Sve borbene i tehnoloshke karte prevedene na srpski. Kazite mi shta mislite o prevodu?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50848
(http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/downl ... e_v1.0.doc)
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Floating World wrote:Sve borbene i tehnoloshke karte prevedene na srpski. Kazite mi shta mislite o prevodu?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50848
(http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/downl ... e_v1.0.doc)
Чему?
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Shark wrote:Чему?
Da se igraju Mama, tata, seka i bata.
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Shark wrote:
Floating World wrote:Sve borbene i tehnoloshke karte prevedene na srpski. Kazite mi shta mislite o prevodu?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50848
(http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/downl ... e_v1.0.doc)
Чему?
Da mogu da igraju ljudi koji neznaju dobro engleski. (A chemu drugo?)
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Floating World wrote:
Shark wrote:
Floating World wrote:Sve borbene i tehnoloshke karte prevedene na srpski. Kazite mi shta mislite o prevodu?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/50848
(http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/downl ... e_v1.0.doc)
Чему?
Da mogu da igraju ljudi koji neznaju dobro engleski. (A chemu drugo?)
Онда им преведеш правила. Или их објасниш онако усмено и укратко пошто си већ ту.

Мислим стварно, да ли је било потребно преводити и потенцијално унети додатне проблеме у игру потенцијалним лошим преводом? Ипак је то ФФГ а они су познати по томе да правила убоду тек из треће. Мутни контекст им је у крви.

Ваљда су ти тумачења правила ок уз тај превод :) Иначе ниси пуно уштедео онима који су СтарКрафт "читали" на српском јер не знају енглески.
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