Battleground prezentacija

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@Nenad

Odlican sajt, trebalo bi skupiti novce pa da iskopiramo u boji one terene.

@Pedja

Jel ti se cini da su Helfovi jedna od jacih frakcija? Imaju besne statove a i nisu toliko skupi?
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I ja mislim da su jedni od jacih, mada ne mislim da su preterani (imaju manje healtha od ostalih armija).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Reshio sam da prikupim zelje ljudi, tako da poshaljite mi pm shta zelite da naruchite, da ja sastavim narudzbenicu za ovu sledecju porudzbinu koja ide krajem jula...
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@Rover: to u prevodu znaci da ce se nabaviti tacno onoliko koliko se naruci ili ce postojati i nesto "on stock"?

BTW prelistavanjem pravila, ustanovio sam da reform daje samo penal od -2 na movement kategoriju, a ne jede ceo krug. Takodje, nabasao sam na info da i jedinica koja final rush-uje i jedinica koja je final rushovana, imaju bonus na charge 8O , osim ako defender nije imao hold order. Prelistao sam pravila i stvarno, na strani 43/44 pravila 2.2 pise: "a unit is charging if it has the close standing order, was not engaged at the start of the turn, and is attacking to it's front".
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Samo od napred (attacking to its front). Znaci ako ga napadnes s boka, ledja, nema bonus. Verovatno uzimaju u obzir da su se obe jedinice zatrcale jedna na drugu.
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Bathory wrote:Samo od napred (attacking to its front). Znaci ako ga napadnes s boka, ledja, nema bonus. Verovatno uzimaju u obzir da su se obe jedinice zatrcale jedna na drugu.
Da, bas su tako objasnili. Ono sto si me pitao za shootere - ne vidim zasto ne bi mogli jedni na druge da pucaju ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Zato sto tako pise u 2.4. Znaci shooteri (indirect fire)mogu da gadjaju samo preko svojih jedinica a ne i neprijateljskih. I mogu u mele. Znaci nema prepucavanja archera medjusobno (ako se ne vide). Nikola ce morati da kupi novi dek.
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:battlemagovi ne koristiti u 2000 i manje
Meni se ipak cinilo da vrede, zbog dodatne karte koju ti daju ako ne napadaju. Cak bih ih ja radije imao kad se igra u manje poena jer ti tad vise stede ordere.
Dzon Vejn wrote:Takodje, nabasao sam na info da i jedinica koja final rush-uje i jedinica koja je final rushovana, imaju bonus na charge 8O , osim ako defender nije imao hold order
Vidis, to mi nije palo na pamet, a totalno ima logike :D
Dzon Vejn wrote:kad god te neko napadne bilo u bok bilo otpozadi gubis po 1 kockicu sa napada
Ovo me je malo zbunilo jer ga nigde nisam nasao, bilo u knjizici bilo u Advanced pravilima. Kazi mi gde ste nabasali na ovo?
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Bathory wrote:Zato sto tako pise u 2.4. Znaci shooteri (indirect fire)mogu da gadjaju samo preko svojih jedinica a ne i neprijateljskih. I mogu u mele. Znaci nema prepucavanja archera medjusobno (ako se ne vide). Nikola ce morati da kupi novi dek.
Kao sto sam ti i rekao - to te ne sprecava da pucas po drugim pucacima, ako nisu iza druge svoje jedinice, i/ili ako nemas larger fiendly unit ispred sebe.
Ovo me je malo zbunilo jer ga nigde nisam nasao, bilo u knjizici bilo u Advanced pravilima. Kazi mi gde ste nabasali na ovo?
Hmmm... sad kad gledam pravila ni ja ne mogu da nadjem, Momo odakle si ovo iskopao bio?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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što se tiče ovog indirektnog pucanja, doduše ja imam 2.2 verziju, pominje se teren, prijateljske jedinice i ostale stvari koje blokiraju LOS
po meni logično je da možeš da pucaš i preko neprijateljskih jedinica

što se tiče -1 kockica kada napadaš neprijatelja koji te udara s boka strana 44 u 2.2 verziji
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Duc d' Elchingen wrote:što se tiče -1 kockica kada napadaš neprijatelja koji te udara s boka strana 44 u 2.2 verziji
Tu nema dileme. Ja sam se samo pitao otkud to da imas generalno 1 kockicu manje ako si flankovan/pinchovan. :)
Duc d' Elchingen wrote:po meni logično je da možeš da pucaš i preko neprijateljskih jedinica
Iskreno, tamo kaze da mozes da pucas preko terena i prijateljskih jedinica. Stvarno nista ne kaze za neprijateljske. Mada, posto je logika indirect fire-a da ti imas spottere koji ti javljaju gde je neprijatelj, oni ne bi mogli da vide iza neprijateljskog prvog reda. Ili se ja varam?
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po meni je to logično
ako možeš preko svojih jedinica, šume, brda i slično što ne bi mogao i preko neprijatelja...
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nikola je isto prelistao opet pravila, i video selektivno :) primenjivanje opcionih pravila, koja meni nisu odgovarala. Naime, da archeri koji gadjaju u melee pogadjaju na 6 svoju jedinicu je opciono pravilo. Takodje i -1 napad na svaku jedinicu koja je sa flanka-reara je isto opciono pravilo.
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kod mene se ovo za pucanj i ne pominje dok je -1 kockice u regularnim pravilima...
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Oči vide ono što um priželjkuje, a?
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e sad imam i ja jedno pitanje
moji Škorpioni (RBT) kaže da ne mogu da gađaju preko onoga što blokira LOS
za obične strelce to ne piše, kao ni za magove
da li to znači da oni mogu da gađaju i van LOS?
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joggy wrote:nikola je isto prelistao opet pravila, i video selektivno :) primenjivanje opcionih pravila, koja meni nisu odgovarala. Naime, da archeri koji gadjaju u melee pogadjaju na 6 svoju jedinicu je opciono pravilo. Takodje i -1 napad na svaku jedinicu koja je sa flanka-reara je isto opciono pravilo.
Jelena Karleusa isto prica o sebi u 3. licu jednine :D.

Nisam jos stigao da prelistam cela nova pravila, ali vidim da tamo ima i flee naredbe, i hidden deployment, itd.... trebalo bi se dogovoriti da li i sta od opcionih pravila koristimo.

@Pedja: za pucanje, u poslednjim pravilima, vise od 2" sume blokira LOS, a brda ne blokiraju (mada je game designer rekao da je to slucajna greska u pravilima i da ce biti ispravljeno; u ranijim pravilima je to jasno stajalo). Skorpioni ne mogu da pucaju preko friendly unita, preko vise od 2" sume (i preko brda ako slusamo game designera). Bowmeni, magovi i ostala zgadija moze. Takodje, nemogucnost neprijatelja da puca u tvoje pozadinske redove je otprilike jedini nacin da se zastite razni magovi sa oklopom od lisca (Moma TM) ;). Teren je detaljnije opisan na strani 47 pa nadalje. Takodje, vodi racuna da ni sa indirect fire ne mozes da pucas kako ti je volja - samo preko svojih unita koji nisu veci od tebe (dakle ne preko sume, brda, itd.). Strana 30 i 31. I skini pravila 2.4 sa njihovog zvanicnog sajta.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ljudi skinite pravila 2.4 i po njima cemo igrati. Istina da postoje i neka opciona pravila koja su podlozna dogovoru a za njih cemo se-dogovoriti.

Opciona pravila:

Nema minimuma cora i elita-protiv;

Flee- za;

Hidden deployment-za;

Missile blocking terrain-za;

Shooting into engagements(6)-za;

Attacking multiple units-protiv;

Optional Combat Modifiers
No Line-of-Sight (Optional Rule)
(-0) -1/-0 -za (da ne bi Nikola kupovao nove dekove :wink: )
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nije 2" nego 2,5" iliti S
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izdjidali ste me ko ja momu za 3d6 hitova snage 1 :) za ova opciona pravila. Ali neka, pobedicu i ja jednom sa vilenjacima, pa cete videti onda :).
Jos jedan djid :) kad pucas na konjicu, imas dodatni -1 na BS
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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Ja sam za sve osim za ukidanje minimuma core i maximuma elite.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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joggy wrote:izdjidali ste me ko ja momu za 3d6 hitova snage 1 :) za ova opciona pravila. Ali neka, pobedicu i ja jednom sa vilenjacima, pa cete videti onda :).
Jos jedan djid :) kad pucas na konjicu, imas dodatni -1 na BS
ah,da, za sva opciona pravila - protiv, barem dok se ne izigramo sa ovim obicnim i advanced
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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moze i tako... Znaci jedina izmena u odnosu na edicije 1.1,1.2,1.3 pa sve do 2.4 je to da archeri ne mogu da gadjaju preko neprijatelja.

Placite dugouhi, placite... :twisted: :twisted:
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joggy wrote:
joggy wrote:izdjidali ste me ko ja momu za 3d6 hitova snage 1 :) za ova opciona pravila. Ali neka, pobedicu i ja jednom sa vilenjacima, pa cete videti onda :).
Jos jedan djid :) kad pucas na konjicu, imas dodatni -1 na BS
ah,da, za sva opciona pravila (a posebno ono kada pucam u rulju da imam sansu da pogodim sebe na 6) - protiv, barem dok se ne izigramo sa ovim obicnim i advanced
:D

Mislim da mogu lepo da se sastave elfovi... samo moraju malo drugacije da se igraju. I da te Moma ne djida :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Nikola je danas bio najblizi tome da moje lizarde utera u prvi poraz, ali ipak nije uspeo :D.

Wood elves:
3 ravenwood archers
1 ravenwood spearmen
1 ravenwood swordsmen
2 wolfkin
1 brownies
1 stag cavalry
1 wolf pack

Lizard:
1 swarmling warriors
2 trog warriors
1 tyrant spearmen
1 ancient
1 raptor pack
1 triceratops hers

Igra se u vise momenata lomila (sve cu pricati gledano sa moje strane, sta je levo sta desno). Na levom boku, postavio sam skinkove a iza njih anciente, u sredini su bili saurusi, iza skroz desnih saurusa tricep. herd, i skroz desno su mi bili raptori. Nikoli su archeri bili levo, u sredini i desno, sve u drugom redu; u prvom redu skroz levo wolfkini i stag cavalry, skroz desno brownies, wolf pack, ostatak u sredini.

Na pocetku bitke odlucujem da igram bez kartica, da bih nabio sto vise naredbi, te leadership. Pocetnih par ruku je Nikolu bas kenjalo, tako da su moji raptori u negde 2-3 krugu ostali na 2 rane 8O - wolf pack je naneo neke silne woundove, ja sam pao moral, i onda me je odvalio. To je na desnom boku. Na levom boku spreda se zakucao u skinkove koji su vec bili malo napucani, sa wolfkinima, i u bok uleteo sa stag cavalry. Skinkovi imaju srecu da prodju sve leadershipe i ostanu na mocnoj 1 rani. Taman da ja sledeci krug poklopim u bok stag cavalry sa ancientima. U sredini on mi napucava dosta toga, i ulece u combat sa malom prednoscu u healthu. Na levom boku umiru skinkovi, ancienti piju bok od wolfikina, ali prezivljavaju i ubijaju stag cavalry - otajem crven protiv wolfikna koje sam uzuteo. Na desnom boku moji saurusi uspevaju da ubiju wolf pack ali ostaju na 1 woundu i beze. Tyranti ubijaju spearmene i poklapaju Nikoline swordmene u bok. Ide Nikolin krug u kome uspeva da natera anciente da beze, ali i oni uspevaju da ucrvene wolfkine. U sredini on poklapa moje tyrante u bok sa archerima, ubija mi sauruse, ali i ja njemu ubijam swordmene. Napucava druge sauruse koji su na 1 woundu bezali. Moji raptori ostaju na 2 wounda sa hold naredbom. U mom krugu ja radim rally ancienta, raptori se zalecu u browniese i prepolove ih, tyranti nastavljaju borbu poklopljeni u bok sa archerima. Nikolin krug - wolfkini jurisaju na anciente, archeri sklanjaju tyrante, browniesi i archeri ubijaju raptore, ali i raptori browniese. Wolfkini umiru, ancienti ostaju na par woundova. Na tabli su ostale Nikoli 3 jedinice archera (1 naceta), a meni ancienti na nekoliko woundova i nenaceti tricep. herd. Tricep ide napred ka archerima, oni pucaju po njemu i proser se nastavlja, nabija me skoro u zuto. Ancienti naizmenicno idu napred, pa popiju wound, pa padnu moral (tako do kraja partije - umiru otprilike u isto vreme kada i Nikoli 2. archeri). Tricep. herd stize nacete archere i ubija ih. Nikola ide unazad sa 2. archerima i puca, ja uspevam da uletim u njega na 1 wound zutog. Tada mi dolaze regeneracije i ja uspevam da vratim anciente u zeleno. Okrecem se ka Nikoli koji konstantno ide unazad i puca po meni. Obrce mi se dek (jer mi je ceo skoro u ruci) i stize opet regeneracija, tako da se ja lecim brze nego sto Nikola puca (one karte koje mu nabijaju snagu su mu vec "prosle"). Obrce se Nikoli dek, i sada dobija potrebne kartice i uspeva da me vrati u zuto. Srecom prolazim leadership (mada sam imao i kartu za +1 i re-roll). Uspevam da ga ujurisam konacno, i posto lizard dek ima bolje karte od wood elf deka, uspevam jedva da ga dobijem - preziveo mi samo tricep. herd i to u zutom.

Neki novi momenti:
- Nikola je ipak bio u pravu da je protiv mene bolje imati sto vise malih unita. Umesto treemana je uzeo 2 unita, nije uzimao medvede, i imao je 10 unita. Napucavanjem te nacne, onda dodje u combat gde je u prednosti. Umre, ali onda ide njegov svez talas jedinica, dok su meni svi vec osakaceni.
- Tafnes 4 je keva :D... da nisam imao 2 unita sa tim izgubio bih. Protiv puno archera, ovo je verovatno najbitnije imati.
- wood elf ima pored slabije army naredbe i slabiji dek sa karticama.
- sa scenarijima je mnogo zanimljivije igrati
- Moma ne zna da igra :D
- Cini mi se da je sa reinforcementima malo popravljen balans, jer da je Nikola ima jos i 2 jedinice longbowa, ne znam kako bih izasao na kraj sa njim. Sa druge strane ja u reinforce ne dobijem nista korisno, tako da onda budemo malo ujednaceniji
- trice. herd NIKAKO ne stavljati u drugi red, jer se ne mogu manuelno kontrolisati, te ce kombat videti bas bas kasno. A posto su biljojedi, nemaju blood frenzy (mada mi nije jasno kako tyranosaurus rex nije mesozder, ali ajde).
- lizardi imaju najgore elite u igri, ali je zato sve ostalo zaista odlicno
- zaboravio sam zute tokene u Sigilu, ako ih je neko nasao bio bih zahvalan.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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''Moma ne zna da igra :D''

Cemu prozivka? :) Jel zbog tvog redovnog usera kad bacas kockice, zbog armije koju vodis a koja je, bar koliko sam mogao da vidim za sad, najnezgodnija (bar meni) ili je nesto drugo u pitanju, a promaklo mi je? :D

Nevezano za ovo, definitivno armije nisu ujednacene dok se ne uzmu reinforcement deckovi

Jos jedna konstatacija, lizardmeni imaju najbolji urodjeni ability, ''blood frenzy''. Inace, samo jos undeadovi imaju abiliti (imuni na courage checks), i patuljci 3,5 incha kad jure ili beze.

Nekako mi je sve jasnije otkud Nenadova naprasna ljubav prema lizardmenima.... :) :wink:
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Dzon Vejn wrote:A posto su biljojedi, nemaju blood frenzy (mada mi nije jasno kako tyranosaurus rex nije mesozder, ali ajde).
Mislim da nije do toga sto nisu mesozderi nego do toga sto nisu Lizardmeni vec dinosaurusi, tj. "obicne" zivotinje. Mada nisam siguran zasto onda blood frenzy onda radi na Raptor Pack...
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Cemu prozivka? :) Jel zbog tvog redovnog usera kad bacas kockice, zbog armije koju vodis a koja je, bar koliko sam mogao da vidim za sad, najnezgodnija (bar meni) ili je nesto drugo u pitanju, a promaklo mi je? :D
Nisam ja bacao dobro koliko si ti bacao lose :D... a to je zato sto ne umes da bacas kockice, evo i kraceg kursa:
- moras da verujes da ces da bacis dobro (onako kako ti odgovara)
- ne smes da imas nikakav specifican pokret dok to radis (ti imas)
- kada bacis, bacis opusteno, kao da je vec palo ono sto ti odgovara (u stilu Sir Olivera)
- kockice moraju dosta da se kotrljaju
- sta god da padne ne smes da se nerviras, jer ako se nerviras, to onda utice na sledeca bacanja

:D

Probaj tako i ici ce ti bolje :D

A mislim i da gresis u sastavljanju armije - ne mozes da mesas sve, jer to onda slabo radi. Trebas da se koncentrises na jedno. Znaci, ako si krenuo da pazaris pucace, trebao si to da nakrcas (2 archera, 2 horse archera, elementalisti, a za odbranu earth elemental, half orc spearmeni i 2 wild sworda - i sve na hold i pucas; ostane ti za 1 special karticu poena). Ako krenes na tucu, onda zanemaris pucace totalno.

Nisam imao pojma kakvi su lizardi, sa obzirom na to da ni pravila nisam znao ;). Izbor je bio zapravo jako lak: ti si uzeo mercs, Nikola wood elfove, znao sam da Pedja vec ima high elfove, undeadi su mi se cinili kao prejaki, orkove racunam da ce mozda Uros uzeti, patuljci su mi, kao i u WH smor za igranje, a crnci mi nisu bas nesto privlacni. Dakle ostali su ljudi i lizardi. Posto u WH imam ljude, i prilicno su mi dosadili, ostali su samo lizardi ;).

edit: raptor pack je verovatno najbolji unit kod lizarda... ne znam kojim sistemom su se vodili kda su davali blood frenzy. Ability je zaista odlican.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ladno nisam primetio da imam neki specifican rad rukom kad bacam kockice 8O :) .

Sto se tice armije, isprobavam sve jedinice pa da vidim sta mi odgovara. Recimo elementalisti su ok, ali ako nece kocka,dzabe. Pogadjao sam na 4-, a redovno sam imao po 1 pogodak. Mada se slazem da 3 strelca nisu dobar izbor pogotovo sto su mi archeri jadni.

Doduse posle sam dobio Zulufa i njegove orkove (jbte moze da nakrca 9 napada!!) pa sam se smirio :D .

edit1:Ali cinjenica je da bez reinf deka nije isto. (obratiti paznju na hydru-prevaru :) )

edit2:I mislim da sve armije treba da imaju nekakve abilitije. A blood frenzy je definitivno najbolji.

edit3: undedovi su klasicna swarm combatlock armija. Ako je neko dobro vodi mislim da je mucno igrati protiv njih.

Ipak dajem im kredita posto je u pitanju nova firma, pa se tek uce u pravljenju balansiranih armija.
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Imas - promuckas kockice, i onda na sekund zaustavis ruku, i bacis kockice uvek tako da se kotrljaju, ali ne bas puno, i malo nakrivis ruku, a pritom pricas da ces baciti lose, i nerviras se kad bacis lose (dakle radis sve pogresno, moras da procitas moj manual kako bacati kockice :D - onaj deo sa Sir Oliverom je najbitniji :D).

Mislim da je elementalistima losiji onaj spell koji si ti bacao. To je prvi problem, a drugi sto ih nisi priblizavao dovoljno da imas bas najbolje opcije. Takodje, onaj spell koji ima domet 10.5 ima samo za po 1 manji BS i S, ali bacas 4 kockice, i mozes da koristis kartice na to. Dakle potencijalno mozes mnogo vise rana da napravis. Onaj spell od 17" se koristi u pocetku, dok nemas domet sa drugim spellom.

Hydra je odlicna ali ima isti problem kao tricep. herd:
1 - ne mozes da je kontrolises
2 - prakticno ne mozes da koristis kartice na njoj
3 - kosta boga oca
4 - a nije oklopljena kao tricep. herd ili ancienti

Svakako je bolja od bilo kog mog special choice-a (heh, bilo koji special choice je bolji od bilo kog mog specail choice-a :? ), ali mislim da ti nije dobar izbor. Dzin je bolji od nje, pa ni on nije dobar ;).

edit: sad mi pade na pamet - shvatio sam zasto napravis pauzu od sekund pri bacanju kockica: u tom trenutku krenes da razmisljas kako ces lose da bacis :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Samo jedno pitanjce: Treba proveriti da li regeneracija moze da te vrati na stepen vise, ili se vrsi samo u okviru jednog stepena rane (znam da Trolovi ne mogu da se regenerisu nazad na zaleno ako si ih uterao ucrveno - doduse, mozda je to samo njihovo pravilo).?
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Za trolove bas pise da ne mogu da se vrate u zeleno ako su vec usli u crveno. Za ovu kartu ne pise nista, samo da ti skida 1 wound.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pitanje za dobavljace/organizatore: Hoce li biti neka kampanja/turnir ili nesto slicno posto ima dosta vlasnika dekova? Takodje mozemo li znati sta ce biti naruceno?
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Momo, za takva pitanja i ocekivanje odgovora na ista treba da osnujemo sindikat i izberamo predstavnka kupaca i igraca Sigila i pretimo blokiranjem ulaza gomilama figurica, karata i kockica.
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I slanje inspekcije :twisted:
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Resurrection wrote:Momo, za takva pitanja i ocekivanje odgovora na ista treba da osnujemo sindikat i izberamo predstavnka kupaca i igraca Sigila i pretimo blokiranjem ulaza gomilama figurica/karata i kockica.

Potpuno se slazem, ali nekako naivno verujem da takav drastican korak nece biti potreban i da institucija ''Sigil'' nece ignorisati moje nevino pitanje i zelju za igrom, vec ce isto proslediti vec ustanovljenim organima koji ce u nekom razumnom roku, (10 meseci do godinu dana), navedeno pitanje proslediti ''komisiji za razmatranje pitanja'', koja ce posle detaljne analize ,proslediti moj upit ''komisiji za odlucivanje o narucivanju'', a ova naknadno ''komisiji za odobravanje sredstava za narucivanje'', a ova ce to proslediti ''komisiji za odlucivanje o nacinu narucivanja''....i tako dalje...

Nadam se da cu do duboke starosti uspeti da unucima urucim neki reinforcement deck, kao i da se pohvalim da sam ucestvovao na bar jednom turniru u ovoj igri.

P.S. Jbga zaboravio sam ''Komisiju za razmatranje predloga na srpskom jeziku''
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I zaboravio si: ''U pismenoj formi, u triplikatu sa overenom taksenom markom''.
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Bathory wrote:Pitanje za dobavljace/organizatore: Hoce li biti neka kampanja/turnir ili nesto slicno posto ima dosta vlasnika dekova? Takodje mozemo li znati sta ce biti naruceno?
biće kampanja kada se Zulufić vrati sa G.O.
što se tiče naručivanja najbolje kontaktirati Rovera(Damjana) i dati mu spisak želja
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Zelje cestitke i pozdravi...

Za Nikolu:
wood elf reinforcement dek

Za mene:
lizardmen reinforcement dek

Za nas:
Battleground kingdoms dek (ona kutijica gde su scenariji i mape)

Pitanja:
1. Kada ide porudzbina
2. Kada stize porudzbina
3. Kada moze da se podigne porudzbina

U razgovorima sa Rikom, nadam se da cu uspeti da obezbedim da dobijemo sve sto se naruci + po bar 2 kutije od svega, za potencijalno nove igrace.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Zelje cestitke i pozdravi...

Za Nikolu:
wood elf reinforcement dek

Za mene:
lizardmen reinforcement dek

Za nas:
Battleground kingdoms dek (ona kutijica gde su scenariji i mape)
Primljeno k znanju
Pitanja:
1. Kada ide porudzbina
2. Kada stize porudzbina
3. Kada moze da se podigne porudzbina
1. Kraj jula(tamo negde oko 26.
2.Pochetkom avgusta
3.Chim stigne :P
U razgovorima sa Rikom, nadam se da cu uspeti da obezbedim da dobijemo sve sto se naruci + po bar 2 kutije od svega, za potencijalno nove igrace.
i ja se iskreno nadam...
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