Voting o "raspadu" GW-a
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Osnovni problem sa GW je totalna neizbalansiranost armija.
Kako koja izađe tako je jača od prethodnih u startu i ako neko hoće normalnu friendly partiju najverovatnije će izgubiti većinu bitaka od novije izdatih armija.
Primera radi, ja moje HE prodajem već nekoliko meseci. Broj interesenata za istu od kada je izašla nova knjiga je višestruko veći nego pre toga.
Šta će biti kada izađu novi Haos, Vampiri, DE?
A onda nova edicija i tako u krug.
Pri tom metod bitke nema nikakvih istorijskih osnova a realno je da se zasniva na antici i srednjem veku u 85% stvari.
Kako koja izađe tako je jača od prethodnih u startu i ako neko hoće normalnu friendly partiju najverovatnije će izgubiti većinu bitaka od novije izdatih armija.
Primera radi, ja moje HE prodajem već nekoliko meseci. Broj interesenata za istu od kada je izašla nova knjiga je višestruko veći nego pre toga.
Šta će biti kada izađu novi Haos, Vampiri, DE?
A onda nova edicija i tako u krug.
Pri tom metod bitke nema nikakvih istorijskih osnova a realno je da se zasniva na antici i srednjem veku u 85% stvari.
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]Pri tom metod bitke nema nikakvih istorijskih osnova a realno je da se zasniva na antici i srednjem veku u 85% stvari.
Ne znam kako da ti saopstim... ali 99 % igraca (me included), could not care less... Poenta je u igranju, a ne istorijskoj tacnosti bitaka u kojima ucestvuju efovi, patuljci, orkovi i pacovi...
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Sunka, ima mesta u tvom potpisu, slobodno stavi obe :D
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Ja pričam o taktici korišćenoj u atičkim i srednjovekovnim bitkama.Pendargon wrote:]Pri tom metod bitke nema nikakvih istorijskih osnova a realno je da se zasniva na antici i srednjem veku u 85% stvari.
Ne znam kako da ti saopstim... ali 99 % igraca (me included), could not care less... Poenta je u igranju, a ne istorijskoj tacnosti bitaka u kojima ucestvuju efovi, patuljci, orkovi i pacovi...
Određeni sistem mora na nečemu da se zasniva.
Primera radi WH Ancient Battles koji je rađen mislim po dal 4 ili 5 ediciji mnogo bolje funkcioniše baš zato što se taktika primenjuje zdravorazonski.
Mislis isto onoliko koliko su recimo zmaj, mutacije, magija komplet, itd. zdravorazonske?Duc d' Elchingen wrote: zdravorazonski.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ne.Dzon Vejn wrote:Mislis isto onoliko koliko su recimo zmaj, mutacije, magija komplet, itd. zdravorazonske?Duc d' Elchingen wrote: zdravorazonski.
Mislim da je strelac, kopljanik i helebardir smrt za tešku konjicu.
Da je najbolja odbrana od glupih kočija da se samo razmakneš i pustiš ih da projure kroz tvoje redove, da skirmiš nije SAS itd, itd...
Dobro, i ajde napisi ti sad lepo ovde tu svu mehaniku pa da vidimo kakve ce da budu primedbe, jel moze tako?
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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To bas nije istorijski :lol: :lol: :lol:Duc d' Elchingen wrote:Prestao sam da igram WHFB tako da me iskreno baš briga.Dzon Vejn wrote:Dobro, i ajde napisi ti sad lepo ovde tu svu mehaniku pa da vidimo kakve ce da budu primedbe, jel moze tako?
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ja bih da ova tema ostane. radije bi da se ljudi vent-uju ovde, nego da imamo ceste off-topice u warhammer sekcijama foruma 
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Da zelim da se sistem zasniva na 85% istorijskoj tacnosti, ne zelim. Ali da neko upire prstom u tebe i smeje se iz petnih zila kad izvedes jedinicu chaos warriora on foot, ili skoro bilo koju rank and file jedinicu on foot, to mi je potpuni apsurd u epskim bitkama. Warhammer je vece napucavanje od 40k, sto je stvarno, ali stvarno, glupo.
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"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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Битно је да су здраворазумске у функцији игре, а не номинално. Магије, на пример, у неком другом систему могу да буду "артподршка ван табле". Змај може да се сматра "ваздушнодесантним одредом" и тако даље. Али, битно је да се не ремети равнотежа игре.Dzon Vejn wrote:Mislis isto onoliko koliko su recimo zmaj, mutacije, magija komplet, itd. zdravorazonske?Duc d' Elchingen wrote: zdravorazonski.
Битно је да игра на прави начин одражава дух времена. А Наџак представља првенствено средњевековне битке између војски од којих су неке засноване на историјским узорима, уз учешће фантастичних бића и магије.
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Fantasy Flight Games to Exclusively Publish Board Games, Card Games, and Roleplaying Games based on Games Workshop properties.
Second deal to include Sabertooth Games' Universal Fighting System CCG
Roseville, Minnesota (February 22, 2008) – Fantasy Flight Games (“FFG”) and Games Workshop (“GW”)
jointly announced today that they have reached an agreement for Fantasy Flight Games to become the exclusive publisher of board games, card games (including collectible card games), and roleplaying games based on Games Workshop’s family of renowned intellectual properties including Warhammer Fantasy Battles and Warhammer 40,000. Additionally, the deal will grant FFG the exclusive rights to publish new versions of the classic board and card games titles published by Games Workshop over the last 25 years.
Additionally, a second agreement between the parties will transfer the publication rights and system of the Universal Fighting System CCG, formerly published by Sabertooth Games, to FFG.
“We are just so thrilled to partner with Games Workshop in such an encompassing deal,” said Christian T. Petersen, CEO and founder of FFG. “Not only will we be able to continue the publication of some phenomenal roleplaying, card, and board games currently on the market, but we look forward to creating new games for the popular GW universes!”
"In Fantasy Flight Games, we’ve found a partner who shares our passion for gaming and our dedication to producing the highest quality products,” said Andy Jones, Head of Legal and Licensing for Games Workshop. "The legacy of our board, card, and roleplaying games is in the best possible hands with them, and we are extremely excited about the prospects of seeing some fabulous new games set in our universes as well".
”This is the beginning of an exciting new era for the Universal Fighting System," said Stephen Horvath, CEO of Sabertooth Games. “Fantasy Flight Games are the perfect choice to carry on the UFS line, and fans can expect great new content and more fantastic events supporting their favorite CCG going forward."
FFG will take over the production of Talisman, and plan to produce a new printing and expansions for the 4th edition of this ever-popular classic board game. Further, FFG will continue production and new-product support for the Universal Fighting System CCG, the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay RPG, and the new smash-hit Dark Heresy RPG. More details on FFG’s publication plans for these titles will be provided in the weeks to come. !e agreement does not include certain GW titles in which miniatures feature as the predominant component of the game, such as Space Hulk and Blood Bowl.
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So, let me get this straight... sve sto nije miniature based (znaci svi board-games koji nisu specialist kao BB i slicno, ccg, rpg, itd) preuzima fantasy flight games da distribuira (proizvodi?) kao partner GW-a (ili kao samostalni vlasnik tih prava?). Ovo je... pa, novost, ne znam kako drugacije da reagujem
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
:badger: :badger: :badger:Jednostavno, kupili su prava na koja su do skora imali Sabertooth games i ostali 'mali' nosioci prava 
Glavne igre i dalje distribuira/proizvodi GW- kao i do sada...
Glavne igre i dalje distribuira/proizvodi GW- kao i do sada...Samo ono što činimo iz ljubavi, činimo slobodno, pa ma koliko patnje iz toga proizašlo.
Istina rađa mržnju. Ko govori istinu, često se zamera drugima.
Istina rađa mržnju. Ko govori istinu, često se zamera drugima.
Re: Voting o "raspadu" GW-a
Potrebna mi je slika one montaze: threadomancy :D
Anyway, kako su beastmeni otisli, i planiram da pazarim novu armiju, danas sam otisao na GW sajt i video cene... eto, samo sam hteo da podelim svoju zgrozenost sa vama :oops:
Anyway, kako su beastmeni otisli, i planiram da pazarim novu armiju, danas sam otisao na GW sajt i video cene... eto, samo sam hteo da podelim svoju zgrozenost sa vama :oops:
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Kupi lepo ti nama jos FoW figura i uzivaj ... Situacija na bojnom polju se stabilizovala :-)Dzon Vejn wrote:Potrebna mi je slika one montaze: threadomancy :D
Anyway, kako su beastmeni otisli, i planiram da pazarim novu armiju, danas sam otisao na GW sajt i video cene... eto, samo sam hteo da podelim svoju zgrozenost sa vama :oops:
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Pa nema mnogo sta tu jos da se dokupi... eventualno jos 4 AA 20mm portee, 3 matilde za neke sulude kombinacije i da konacno dam Pedji da mi uradi tockove za artiljeriju. U principu, sve ostalo vec imam. Eh da i avioni u teoriji... ali oni su bitni isto koliko i transport po pitanju postavljanja na tablu
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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E ja se trudim da svucem broj armija na 1 po sistemu
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Ali aviončići daju neku posebnu draž...Dzon Vejn wrote:Pa nema mnogo sta tu jos da se dokupi... eventualno jos 4 AA 20mm portee, 3 matilde za neke sulude kombinacije i da konacno dam Pedji da mi uradi tockove za artiljeriju. U principu, sve ostalo vec imam. Eh da i avioni u teoriji... ali oni su bitni isto koliko i transport po pitanju postavljanja na tablu
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Re: Voting o "raspadu" GW-a
Za te pare, podno mosta, puno je draži. 
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kakav jeres !!!!opsidiannight wrote:Za te pare, podno mosta, puno je draži.
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Zamisli sistem u kom se pravila ne menjaju svake dve godine.
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice.
Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
Istorijski wargame
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice.
Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
Istorijski wargame
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Re: Voting o "raspadu" GW-a
Ne, samo se izrazavam kroz alegorije.
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Ti si bre post'o mlooogoo emancipovan od kako farbas vukove. Sve vrca iz tebeopsidiannight wrote:Ne, samo se izrazavam kroz alegorije.
...sad cemo da vidimo da li farbanje vukova ima isti efekat i na bocu? :D
A posle, ko zna, mozda probamo sa Zuborom iako je u nivou very challenging zadataka .... mislim sto se emancipacije tice. :D
Zamisli sistem u kom se pravila ne menjaju svake dve godine.
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice.
Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
Istorijski wargame
Zamisli sistem u kom ne moras da prepravaljas postojece i da stalno dokupljujes nove jedinice.
Zamisli sistem u kome nema ultimativnih kombinacija armijskih listi. -> false statement otkad Misa izvodi 3 konjice u wedg-u
Istorijski wargame
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opsidiannight
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Da farbam vukove, farbam ih. Za emancipovanje ne znam. Mislim da bi to bilo previse.
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All in all, one of the sorriest release schedules I've ever seen- unless you play 40K or LotR. You know I really WANT to give GW my money, all they have to do is release things worth buying. I'm a High Elf player, I WANT to be blown over and impressed by new releases- instead GW think they're going to make their money by just giving High Elves amazing overpowering rules and expecting us players to once again be grateful. It's not gonna happen this time. EvC @ Warseer
All in all, one of the sorriest release schedules I've ever seen- unless you play 40K or LotR. You know I really WANT to give GW my money, all they have to do is release things worth buying. I'm a High Elf player, I WANT to be blown over and impressed by new releases- instead GW think they're going to make their money by just giving High Elves amazing overpowering rules and expecting us players to once again be grateful. It's not gonna happen this time. EvC @ Warseer