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Jednostavno moram da podelim ovo otkrice sa ostalima :D. Na steam-u su, relativno skoro, izbacili "novu" free to play igru. Radio je firefly studio (Stronghold serijal).

Opis cu podeliti u dve grupe - kraci i duzi. Ko ne zeli da cita duzi opis neka preskoci sve sto se nalazi ispod reda sa zvezdicama.

Moram priznati da me je igra prilicno iznenadila, posto od tih free to play igara obicno ne ocekujem mnogo. Prilicno je siroka, i ima bas puno opcija i contenta. U osnovi se radi o tome da gradite svoje(a) selo(a) (medieval tematika). Opcije koje imate na raspolaganju se polako sire naukom. Da bi napredovali u nauci, morate da napreduje u ranku. Napredovanje u ranku se ostvaruje stvaranjem honora koji moze da se dobije na mnogo razlicitih nacina (vojska, nauka, crkva, tako sto ste dobar vladar prema svojim seljanima, specijalne kartice, odrzavanje banketa,....).

Iako science tree deluje u prvoj sekundi skromno (prvo sto sam primetio je da ima samo 4 grane), kad provalite kako da vidite detalje, shvatite koliko tu opcija u stvari ima.

Help je uradjen zaista dobro (jos nisam naleteo na nesto sto mi nije bilo dobro objasnjeno).

Nikola, ja i jedan moj drugar se nalazimo na svetu 3, u Irskoj, regija Donegal (Nikola je u parohiji Eglish, ja sam u parohiji St Johnston, drugar je u parohiji Fahan). Ako odlucite da se pridruzite igri, pokusajte da pozicionirate selo sto blize tome, kako bismo mogli da se igramo "zajedno". Ako ne budete imali mogucnost da pozicionirate selo u Donegal regiju, pokusajte u Fermanagh (sto severnije) ili Leitrim (sto severnije), tim redom. Ako ne moze ni tamo, onda Sligo (sto severnoistocnije). Ako ne moze ni tamo, onda Roscommon ili Mayo (opet severoistocno). Ako bas nista od toga ne moze, onda Cavan (severozapad). Ako nista od navedenog ne moze, onda bilo sta sto je na severu Irske. Mada cete najverovatnije moci vec u Donegal da dodjete.

Postoji i neka mogucnost da vas neko od nas pozove "kao prijatelja". Mislim da onda dobijamo neki bonus ako napravite uplatu (mada nisam siguran koji je bonus). Ostavite nam email ako hocete poziv.

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Sto se tice malo sireg opisa igre - pocinjete u malom seocetu, kao rank village idiot :D. Seoca su grupisana u parohije (i dalje od toga ne trebate da znate za pocetak :D). Svaki igrac (iznad ne secam se kog ranka, ali nesto jako nisko) dobija 3 glasa po selu po danu. Glasanjem se odlucuje ko ce biti paroh parohije. On je, za vas kao pocetnika, bitan zato sto bira koje ce se zgrade graditi u parohiji. Tako sagradjene zgrade (a u gradnji mogu svi iz parohije da pomazu) daju bonus na nivou cele parohije, dakle svim selima, pa i vasem (primera radi ako paroh sagradi guild jabucara, sve jabucare ce imati neki bonus - broj zgrada koji postoji je zaista veliki). Dakle cilj vam je timski rad u parohiji.

Primera radi, u parohiji gde sam ja, paroh masovno ulaze u gradnju zgrada u parohiji, dvojca se bave ratovanjem (posto se povremeno u parohiji pojave AI protivnici koji unesrecuju seljane ako se ne pobiju), jedan je jak skaut (po mapi stalno imate nesto sto se pojavljuje, sto mozete da capite (a kasnije prodate parohiji, od cega imate korist i vi i parohija)), i ja se bavim masovnom trgovinom (od cega opet imam korist i ja i parohija). Ostali su za sada mali.

Svaka vasa akcija utice na reakciju sela i okoline. Recimo, mene je Nikola savetovao da glasam za sebe da budem paroh :D... pa je to malo naljutilo paroha koji je bio mnogo jaci od mene :D. Zavrsilo se tako sto sam bio ubiven (uspeo sam jednom da mu odbijem napad, pa ga je to jos malo vise naljutilo :D), mada mi je to u stvari donelo korist. Kada vas ubiju, sve specijalne kartice koje imate zadrzavate, svu nauku zadrzavate, rank zadrzavate, a samo krecete od nule sa gradnjom sela, u nekoj druoj parohiji (sto je zapravo dobro, jer cete u prvom trenutku sigurno nesto sjebati :D).

Jos jedna od opcija je mogucnost da imate vazale / budete vazal (sto je dobro za sve - onaj ko vam je nadredjen ima mogucnost da u vase selo smesti vojsku, sto vama budzi odbranu, a njemu omogucava da odatle napada; hint: ne zelite da vas nadredjeni bude neko ko ce napadati vase selo; a onaj ko je vazal dobija bonus honor, koji je sve veci sto ste obojca veci u ranku).

Specijalne kartice koje sam pomenuo - dobijaju se po 1 na odredjeni period. Nisu toliko vazne da se ne moze igrati bez njih, ali pomazu (ima zaista najrazlicitijih, pa necu detaljnije opisivati, primeri bi bili dobi X komada resursa Y; dobi X vojnika tipa Y; pojacaj odbranu, ubrzaj napad....). Do 3 kartice nedeljno stizete prakticno po zavrsetku tutorijala (sto je ok broj). Da bi nakon toga povecavali, morate da napravite barem jednu uplatu od 3.54 evra, dakle nekih 350-400 kinti (za kojih dobijete 60 kruna, pomocu kojih mozete kupiti bustere (8 - 10 kruna komad) od 5 kartica, ili premium pass (koji vam realno zaista ne treba) koji kosta 30 kruna za 7 dana ili 100 kruna za 30 dana). Nakon te prve uplate, relativno lako stizete do nekih 6 kartica nedeljno. Nakon toga dosta sporije stizete do 8 kartica nedeljno. Za 10 kartica nedeljno vam je potrebna druga uplata (naravno, ni prvu ni drugu uplatu ne morate napraviti). Posle toga mozete napredovati samo jos na 14 kartica nedeljno, doduse jos sporije. Primera radi, ja sam trenutno na 6 kartica nedeljno, Nikola na 7.

Naravno, ako se odlucite da se igrate, rado cu vam pomoci savetima, onoliko koliko i ja znam za sada (prvi savet je da izucite neku granu hrane na max i da se odlucite kako cete dobijati honor, te da to izucavate).

Eto toliko za sada. Ako bude interesovanja, pisacemo jos ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Posto je svet 3 uglavnom popunjen, samo da javnem da se igramo i na svetu 5, u Iverness-Shire (Skotska).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Deluje mi jako zanimljivo. :)
Bas sam ove nedelje hteo da igram nesto slicno, ali kada se setim da ponovo igram iste stvari... meh :P
Ae daj inv, pa da se igramo.
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The invitation has been sent to the email address you provided

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That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Sad mogu da glasam za tebe. Ako mi posaljes nesto kamenja :D
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Koji svet, koja parohija, koje selo?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Treci svet, Marasin, dva sela iznad tebe :P
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Da si se javio ranije danas, mogao sam ti poslati puno :D. Nisam imao na sta da potrosim, pa sam napravio 2. fletchera, a to koooosta :D.

Posto na 3. svetu nisam budzio skaute, moracu da sacekam da mi se ponovo naprave neki resursi, pa da mogu da ti prosledim nesto ;).

Za sada nemam pretenzije da budem paroh ;), tako da nemoj glasati za mene (jos :P) ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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takodje, ja imam 2 slobodna mesta za vazale ako neko hoce, na svetu #3. Time dobijate bonus na honor.
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Siljo stize ti 2000 drveta, pa ce posle i kamenje ;). Pa kad bude trebalo jos javi. Javi mi i cega ti koliko treba, posto imam malo tradera, pa sporo ide prenos ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Aj videt cu. Inace sam vec postao vazal jednog iz parohije. Mislim Lionnesto tako da djaba :|
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Fala na drvetu. U sustini samo mi treba 1000 kamena da mogu da napravim market. Zeznuo sam se i potrosio i nenamenski dok sam smisljao plan koji nemoze da propadne :P
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Stize i 2000 kamenja za nekih 18 minuta.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Fala :) A sada da vidimo kako mali Perica zamislja seljaka u srednjem veku :D
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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isto, jako je pozeljno da od svojih usta otkines neverovatnu cenu dve pljeskavice (3,5 evrica) kako bi kupio malo kartica, i mogao da napredujes u tom domenu. Za te pare dobijes oko 10 boostera po 5 karata, plus znatno povecavas kolicinu besplatnih kartica tokom nedelje
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
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Vrlo, vrlo, vrlo vazna tabela za znati, pri izboru toga koju cete hranu uciti:

http://help.strongholdkingdoms.com/inde ... lage_Table
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Jel ima neko ogranicene koliko razlicitih hrana mozes da imas u smocnici. Posto sam stavio da mi se pravi hleb ali nekako se ne pojavljuje :(
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"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Nema. Cak naprotiv, sto vise razlicitih hrana konzumiraju seljani, to su srecniji. Ne pojavljuje se zato sto ga pojedu odmah ;). Posto predpostavljam da gajis jabuke i hleb, da bi hleb poceo da ti se pojavljuje (a happiness seljana dodatno porastao), moras da proizvodis jednako hleba i jabuka (sto je u startu gotovo nemoguce). Tek kad nesto "pretekne", onda ce ti skociti happiness, i krenuce da ti ostaje lebac u glavnoj kuci ;). Inace, ne preporucujem ti hleb :D - zauzima najvise mesta.

Po mom dosadasnjem iskustvu, najbolje je opredeliti se za jednu od grana - ili voce i povrce ili meso i mlecni proizvodi.

Ja sam krenuo da igram i na svetu 5, i tu nisam uopste razvijao jabuke, samo sir u pocetku. Minimalno sporije sam isao sa razvijanjem, ali zato sada idem mnogo brze :D. Na svetu 3 sam se zajebao jer sam ulozio 8 poena u jabuke i 8 u sir, a za njihovo dalje budzenje moram opet da ulazem u 2 razlicite grane. Pritom, sir i meso mogu da se prave u bilo kom tipu sela ;). Za razliku od voca/povrca, gde samo jabuke mogu svuda, a ostalo zavisi od tipa sela.

edit: imas generalno ogranicenje u glavnoj kuci - u startu je to npr. 6000 za resurse, ali to znaci da od svakog tipa resursa mozes imati po 6000.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Vi bas igrate taj farmvil:P
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Gresis, Nenad i kada je igrao LOTR MMO je igrao Farmvile :D
Ma ja resio da se bavim poljoprivredom ali da razvijem po jedan za Hleb i Jabuke, da bi imao bonuse na razlicitu prehranu. Sad cu da smislim kako da to prepravim.
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Dobro pregledaj science grane (sa sve onim sto trenutno ne mozes da gradis, ali ces moci kasnije). I obavezno razmisli koji tip sela zelis da imas kao 2. selo ;). I kasnije ;).

U LOTRO sam najvise vremena proveo u basti :P.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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