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Boneswords: Power weapons that cause Instant Death on a failed Ld roll by the target. If a pair of Boneswords is used, Ld test is taken on 3d6.
Swarmlord - Armed with 4 Boneswords, costs more than a LR.
- Hive Tyrant with WS9
- Invulnerable saves passed against Wounds from him have to be rerolled.
- Each round may grant one unit within 12” Counterassault, Furious Charge or Enhanced Senses.
Izgleda da ima neke specijalne sposobnosti zbog jos jednog para maceva.
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Hypodermic wrote:Nije fora broj maceva, vec cinjenica da zbog toliko maceva svaki radi kao force weapon ili kako vec, ali sa 3d6 ne 2d6... smrt. Nece imati bonuse zbog additional hand weapone, nije to po sredi ;)
Ne, nego retardiranija varijanta force weapon-a - ne treba ti da prodjes, vec da protivnik padne Ld.
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Koja ne bi bila toliko retardirana da su ostavili da psycic scream i dalje daje penalty na LD testove... ali ne, sada izaziva da prodjes morale test kada ga aktiviras ili tako neka glupost koja se skoro uvek prolazi... meh
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Dakle, to znaci da boneswordovi uopste ne funkcionisu protiv stvari koje su fearless?
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ne to radi skrim - citaj sve postove.
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Lots of reports coming in from overseas of 1st hand views of the codex at long last:
Here are some confirmed morsels to keep you on the edge of your seat:

Carnifex: WS:3 BS:3 S:9 T:6 W:4 I:1 A:4 Ld:7 Sv:3
Scary options such as the return of old-school bio-plasma which is now a 12" Plasma Cannon
Groups of 1-3 confirmed, +2 I when charging. Costed as Leman Russ Eradicator

Trygon: WS:5 BS:3 S:6 T:6 W:6 I:4 A:6 Ld:8 Sv:3

Its bioelectric field is a 12" S:5 AP:5 Assault 6 weapon.
It indeed deepstrikes and leave a marker behind that other tyranids can reserve through.
Costed as Baharroth.

Zoanthropes: WS:3 BS:4 S:4 T:4 W:2 I:3 A:1 Ld:10 Sv:5

Dualmodes of fire are 24" S:5 AP:3 Assault 1 Blast, OR the 18" S:10 AP:1 Assault 1 Lance (move over Tau)
It indeed deepstrikes and leave a marker behind that other tyranids can reserve through.
Unit sizes are 1-3 and they are Elites. Costed as a SM Predator.

Tyranid Warriors: WS:5 BS:3 S:4 T:4 W:3 I:4 A:3 Ld:10 Sv:4
Can be put in a landingspore, unitsize 3-9, costed as a CSM Termy.

SwarmLord: WS:9 BS:3 S:6 T:6 W:5 I:6 A:4 Ld:10 Sv:3
Causes Instant Death, Armed with quad boneswords, 4+ Invulnerable, Gives +1 to reserves.
Costed as a pair of Colossus.
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Kao što rekoh ranije, da predahnemo malo od buba, cover za novi Codex Sanguiniusovih sinova...

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Interesantan cover art. Pitam se da li ce kapetan sa naslovnice biti neki novi spec karakter ;) :D
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Ne verujem. Mislim da ce da vrnu Furioso Dreadnought Moriara, a ostace Dante, Mephiston, Corbulo, Lemartes i Tycho.
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deka wrote:Kao što rekoh ranije, da predahnemo malo od buba, cover za novi Codex Sanguiniusovih sinova...

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Ljudi... Stvari nisu uvek onakve kakve vam se cine... :whistle: :lol:

[spoiler]Cover je fake. Ovo su ustvari Imperial Fists.
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8O OMG koja reciklaza :lol:
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Strasno...zar je moguce da ih je mrzelo da bilo sta novo urade,a ne samo da promene boje chapter-a... 8O
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Telion wrote:Strasno...zar je moguce da ih je mrzelo da bilo sta novo urade,a ne samo da promene boje chapter-a... 8O
Ovo je sigurno delo nekog fana, ne GW-ovo :D Mada, ko zna... :/
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Au Koja Cigana pa ako cemo po staroj You can judge the book by its covers Blood Angel igracima se dobro ne pise :-({|=
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Ljudi, lepo pise u spoileru da je to fake. :)

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Ako bolje pogledate,videcete Imperial Fists shoulder padove (u prvom redu drugi zdesna, u drugom redu prva trojica sleva, i jos nekolicina pozadi.) :lol:
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E Pero svaka ti cast..znas kad bih zagledao.. :)
Dobro je..jer da je GW spao na ovako nesto.....
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Evo malo humora na racun novog nekronskog codexa. :D
Given GW's recent track record, here's how the new Necron Codex
*could* pan out:

Army Special Rules
*"I win".* When the game begins, roll a D6. On the roll of a 6 the
Necrons win as the Star God consumes the entire planet.

*Feel No Pain.* The whole army has FNP. Even the Scarabs. If a Necron
Lord with a Res Orb is within 48" then all wounds are subject to FNP
regardless of AP, Armor Save or whatever.

*Tactical Withdrawal.* When Necrons are defeated in Assault and fail a
LD check, instead of being destroyed they Teleport exactly 13" away from
the nearest enemy model in the assault. If there is a Lord with a Veil
in the squad then they can pick where they appear on the board with no
scatter roll required.

*Gauss Weapons.* All Necron weapons are of the type Melta and are AP1.

Unit Descriptions
*Necron Lords* What the old C'Tan used to be, except they have a 3+
invulnerable save now. And they shoot fire out of their eyes.

*Necron Warriors* Basically unchanged except they are T6 now and their
basic weapons are S6 48" range Assault 4 Gauss.

*Necron Immortals* T8, W2, Sv 2+, S8 72" range Assault 8 Gauss weapon.
And they shoot fire out of their eyes.

*Pariahs* S10, T10, W2, Sv 1+ and they have Warscythes with built in S8
72" Assault 8 Gauss. But they aren't Necrons so don't have FNP and they
don't shoot fire out of their eyes. Oh and if you have a enemy model
within 12" the enemy automatically put down their weapons and cut their
own throats.

*Monoliths* AV14 Skimmers that are immune to all weapons less than S10.
When a S10 weapon rolls against the Monolith and gets a Penetrating hit,
the Monolith cannot shoot for one turn. Any other result against the
Monolith results in No Effect. The Monolith has built in S6 Gauss Flux
Arcs that do D10 hits against every enemy unit on the table every turn
and a 48" range Particle Whip that is S10 Ordnance that has a 72" range.
Any Necron model can choose to teleport out of the Monolith coming in
from Reserves instead of deploying normally.

*Flayed Ones* As Necron Warrior, but instead of a gun he has claws that
count as 1 CCW. Models trying to assault a unit of Flayed Ones must take
a LD test at -5 or burst out laughing at this still incredibly lame unit.

*Tomb Spiders* Can generate D6 of any Necron unit on the table each
turn. If you roll a 1 the Tomb Spider takes a wound. And shoots fire out
of his eyes.
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Jel bi mozda neki Cato-Necron Lord mogao da re-roll uje za ovo *I win* pravilo..? :D
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Telion wrote:Jel bi mozda neki Cato-Necron Lord mogao da re-roll uje za ovo *I win* pravilo..? :D
Ne, to ce da bude spec. karakter sa pravilom - na 6 si pobedio, a 1-5 re-roll-ujes dok ne dobijes 6.
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Telion wrote:Jel bi mozda neki Cato-Necron Lord mogao da re-roll uje za ovo *I win* pravilo..? :D
Ne, to bi vec bilo overpowered. :wink:
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Zerg i ja prelistasmo neki preliminary codex (kao prevod onog nemackog koji je procureo). Koliko je tacan, ne znamo (jos uvek nema pdf-a nigde), ali ako je makar 80% tacan, ono je ZLO. Kojih sve bolestina ima, ono nije normalno, ono je fantabulozno jednostavno.

Da, carnifex je skup ko svetog petra kajgana. Tyrant isto toliko pa jos i slanina na kajganu. Ali sta sve rade ono nije normalno. Tyrant sada moze da ima regeneraciju, carnifex vise nema mogucnost 2+ save-a. Ali, obe bocabube koje imam sada kostaju 220 poena i idalje rade posao za svoje poene. Da, mozes ih ubiti malo lakse, ali zato ces imati bog otac posla sa svom malom zgadijom koja jurisa na tebe da te ubije. I carnifexsima koji padaju sa neba.

Da li sam rekao da Detahleaper igra kolo oko Marba?
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Tyrant - mnogo skup. Manje-vise ranjiv. Ali mnogo mnogo dobro bije.
Swarmlord - Tyrantov skuplji i bolesniji rodjak. Fale mu neke stvari koje Tyrant ima, ali zato ima 4+ Inv. Sv., instant kill napade, 2 puta moze da upotrebi psychic powers. A da, Tyranti imaju mnogo bolesne psy powere.

Warriori nisu vise imuni na instant kill, ali nema veze jer jedini efektivan nacin da ubijete unit od 9 Warriora (27 rana) je putem instant killa. :)

Death Leaper je car. Ima specijalna pravila koja se zovu: "It's after me!", "What was that?", "Where'd it go?" :lol: A tek sta radi, lolz. Ne verujem da moze da napravi veliku stetu, ali mnogo dobro moze maltretira protivnika.

Karnifeksi su mnogo skupi i stvarno ne znam kako ce igraci moci da strpaju vise od 4 TMC-a u 1500 poena. I 4 TMC-a je previse.

Genestealeri su ponovo kul. Kostaju 14 poena, i imaju Fleet i Infiltrate. I Broodlorda kao upgrade. I mozete imati 20 njih u unitu. U drop pod spori. :twisted:

Old One Eye - svi ce hteti da ga vode. Ima regeneraciju na 5+, za svaki uspesan hit ima dodatne napade 8O, inace ima 5+ D3 napada u charge-u. Zeznut baja.

Trygon/Trygon Alfa/Mawloc - dobri su svaki na svoj nacin, ali dobro je pitanje da li ce preziveti kad izadju na povrsinu. Nisam siguran sta prvo da napravim. ](*,)

Sa druge strane, neke korisne biomorfe su izbacili (kao Tusked), i Pyrovore je jadan. Biovor sa 4+ Sv, 1 power weapon napadom I1 (WOW). Da, ima heavy flamer, ali jadan je u CC-u i mnogo je ranjiv.

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Iskreno ne vidim pyrovore-a na tabli sem kao blic shok taktiku sa vise njih u spori. A ima boljih stvari koje rade isto. Videcemo kad izadje pravi kodeks i odradimo neke playtestove da li isti moze da se iskoristi nekako.

Tyrranofex. Smrt. Sta dalje reci za zivotinju sa dva hitca snage 10 u 48 incha i 6 rana. Manijak. kosta ko land raider zato, ali ta prokleta baterija boli. Mnogo.

Ono sto je zabrinjavajuce je da ce tiranidi za 1000-1200 poena da kupe podosta monstrous creature-a koji rade svasta. A za preostale poene ce bez problema kupiti 3 ili 4 jedinice trupa sa oko 20 modela/rana svaka, pa ti ubi to ako uspes. Izgleda monstrous creatures su tu da skrecu paznju od malih koji treba da drze objective i slicno. Drasticna razlika izmedju kvantitativnih i kvalitativnih jedinica u poenima :)
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Sta imamo jos... Sinapsa je sad mnogo bitna. Sada polazete instinctive behaviour cak i ako ste fearless.

Gargojli - 6 poena je odlicna cena za letece termagante koji uvek uspesno ranjavaju na 6+. Jedina mana im je sto nisu skoring.

Tervigon - high risk high reward unit. S jedne strane ima 6 rana, daje Termagantima lepe bonuse, generise ih, i moze sam biti skoring. Sa druge strane, generise kill poene i Termaganti strasno nadrljaju ako Tervigon umre.

Hive Guard - steta sto imaju 4+ Sv, ali dobro. Razvaljivace transporte samo tako.

Parasite of Mortex - lol wut. Leteci Tiranid koji implantuje jaja u tela, i iz kojih se izlegu Ripperi.

Biovori su upotrebljivi, yaaaay.

Winged Warriors - jos uvek mislim da ih niko nece uzeti. :)
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Parasite of mortex ako leti sa squadom winged warriora je recimo lepa investicija, produzavaju medjusobno vek jedni drugima.
Raveneri su i dalje beasts, sto znaci 12" assault. Iako hromagaunti to nisu, njihova cena od 6 poena je fantabulozna. plus lepih li unapredjenja... toxin sacs na njima se totalno isplate :D


WOW isplative spore mines. Ako ih kupis kao zasebnu jedinicu postavljaju se na pocetku partije... minefields :D
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Cool. Znaci jos vise buba koje moramo Kosanovic i ja da istrebimo, i da prosirimo trophy kolekciju sa novim bubama. :D 8) :lol:
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e, MC-i ce da ginu kao rukom odneseni, ako ih nemas masu bolje da ih i nemas uopste :D Ako u listi imas samo jednog ili dva MC-a, moraju da budu ili ekstra zilavi (Trygon alpha, tyrant, old one eye...) ili da toliko budu neprimetni od mase drugih jedinica da se prosto zapitas sta ce tu.
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Zna li se da li trigon/mawloc mogu da assaultuju u potezu kada stignu, i kako funkcionise rupa koju trigon ostavlja?

Zanima me i da li su male bube ojacane na neki vidan nacin? Jesu li, recimo, efikasni kao ork boyzi, ili su i dalje WS3 BS3 S3 T3 6+ ko sada? Je li istina da hormagaunti (to su oni assault gaunti, zar ne? stalno ih brkam) imaju inicijativu 5, ali da vise nisu beast?
Warriori nisu vise imuni na instant kill, ali nema veze jer jedini efektivan nacin da ubijete unit od 9 Warriora (27 rana) je putem instant killa.
Pdobro, za 360 poena tih 9 warriora i treba da budu teski za ubiti. Je li moguce nabudziti im sejv na 3+?
Genestealeri su ponovo kul. Kostaju 14 poena, i imaju Fleet i Infiltrate. I Broodlorda kao upgrade. I mozete imati 20 njih u unitu. U drop pod spori.
Ne vidim zasto ih ovo cini dobrim. 14 poena je i dalje preskupo za njih, cak i sa infiltrate. Pogotovo kada se uzme u obzir da ne mogu vise da nabudze 4+ armor save. Jesu li dobili neke druge bonuse kojih nisam svestan?

Koliko poena kosta broodlord upgrade i da li ima iste statsove kao trenutni broodlord? I jesu li genestealeri trupe ili su definitivno samo elite?
Pyrovore je jadan. Biovor sa 4+ Sv, 1 power weapon napadom I1 (WOW). Da, ima heavy flamer, ali jadan je u CC-u i mnogo je ranjiv.
Koliko moze da ih stane u spore pod i da li explodiraju kada umru?

3 heavy flamera koji padaju sa neba i zasipaju pesadiju su itekako zajebana stvar, pogotovo ako protivnik mora da ih ubije u assaultu. Imati takav suicide-squad pyrovora bi onda bio sasvim dobra opcija, droppod dreka fazon (naravno, ako to sve zajedno ne kosta vise od recimo 200 poena). :)
Hive Guard - steta sto imaju 4+ Sv, ali dobro. Razvaljivace transporte samo tako.
Koji toughness i koliko rana? Mogu li stvarno da pucaju na ono sto ne vide?
Tyrranofex. Smrt. Sta dalje reci za zivotinju sa dva hitca snage 10 u 48 incha i 6 rana. Manijak. kosta ko land raider zato, ali ta prokleta baterija boli. Mnogo.
Koji toughness, koji BS?



Ironicno, po svemu sto sam do sada video, tiranidi deluju znatno laksi za ubiti, bar protiv marinaca. Ljudi po BoLS-u na primer su dosta pricali kako ce novi tiranidski kodex verovatno oslabiti melta-spam koji je trenutno jako popularan na velikim turnirima. Ali bogami, ako warriori instant-umiru od snage 8, a tiranti bivaju vrlo skupi (i samim tim ne tako dobra opcija za primarnu sinapsu), melta ce zapravo postati MNOGO korisnija.
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to sto je tyrant skup vise nije problem, jer su trupe bolesno jeftnie. Ali zaista bolesno jeftine.

14 poena genestealeri, kojima je broodlord upgrade character (ima iste statove), i koji sada svi mogu da rade fleet i da se infiltriraju, i jos broodlord ima psihicke moci. Ok, ne moze sejv daim se digne, ali to niko nikada nije ni radio. I da, moze da ih bude 20 u squadu, i mogu u sporu (ako ti ikada to bude trebalo).
Trupa su.
Samo Ygmar genestealeri su elita.

Sve male bube su zadrzale statove, hormagaunti imaju inicijativu 5. I svi kostaju (Sve male bube) 6 poena komad. I tervigon moze termagantima da da neke svoje sposobnosti, i svi mogu da imaju poison napad itd itd itd. MNOGO su isplativiji nego ranije, ranije hormagaunt da bi radio nesto morao je da kosta barem 12 poena, sada sa 8 poena radi vise.

Hive guarda zaista moze da puca na bilo sta sto im je u dometu. I treba, malo da plasimo ljude :D

Za sve ostalo strpi se dok se ne pojavi kodeks ;)



EDIT:
Da, da napomenem, ni trygon ni malwoc ne ginu u deep strike-u, dolaze kao droppods. S time sto malwoc jede sve pod sobom u momentu dolaska (s6 ap2 large blast). Ne mogu assault odmah, ali nije ni bitno :)
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Dobro, to sto su trupe malo vadi genestealere. Mada opet, sta znam, njih 20 u spore podu bez upgradeova kosta 320 poena, a realno onesposobe ih ili potpuno ubiju dva tactical squada u jednom shootingu. Ako je broodlord ko sada stotinak poena, to celu jedinicu podize na 420+ poena, budu maltene jos malo pa ko assault terminatori u LR-u, a i dalje masovno umiru od flamera i moraju da footsloguju preko stola ili padaju u sporepodu upravo u domet flamera i rapid firea.

Ja mislio da ce oni genestealere tipa da spuste na 10-12 poena, i da ih ostave ovakve kakvi su. Ovako sa 14 poena mi i dalje deluju overpriced, s obzirom koliko lako umiru.

A male bube 6 poena komad je okej. Bice ih isto milijardu kao ork boyza, ali ce ork boyzi i dalje biti bolji sibadzije (kako i treba da bude), dok ce nidsi bolje pucati i imati druge fore. Me likes. :D
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Potencijalna nova izdanja... ??? (Neki lik sa warseer-a)
Yesterday I got to look at some of the new WIP items for 2010 and beyond. A lot of it is already out there, (Ork Dreads). Some of it has been seen. I got permission to mention some of the items, but not a lot of specifics or specific release details.

* New GK Terminators 3ups (5 poses, 1 HQ/leader)
* New Daemonhunter/Witchhunter concept art
* New DH/WH vehicles/support
* New Ork dreads
* New Marine models for a specific chapter
* New SM concept art
* New DE models (these are sweet, and I'm not a DE lover)
* New DE concept art
* New Guard tanks/artillery
* New Necron MC sized model
* New Necron concept art
* New Ork vehicles
* New 40k concept art and 3ups tied to a future Codex release
* A lot of the Missions book tie in releases
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/conte ... 9a&start=3

Neke poentaze za Tiranide.
Obratiti paznju na Biovore: sad idu na velike baze. 8O #-o

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Imam... za sebe :p Trebaju mi za moje biovore bre :p Inace, u boxu se i dalje salje sa termie bazama, tako da strpi se sa time malo ;)
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Zvanična GW najava...
Incoming! Blood Angels

This April the Blood Angels will be re-launched with an all-new Codex and range of plastic and metal miniatures. One of the oldest and noblest of all Space Marine Chapters, the Blood Angels have stood fast against the enemies of the Imperium since the Great Crusade and it was their Primarch Sanguinius, who laid down his life to aid the Emperor against Horus in the final hours of the Warmaster’s rebellion. The new Codex explores the background and history of these superhuman warriors like never before, and contains new artwork depicting some of their greatest battles and most powerful champions.

The Blood Angels have always been a powerful close combat army and have been made even deadlier thanks to a range of specialist wargear, the ability to field Assault Squads as Troops choices, and more Dreadnoughts than any other Space Marine Chapter, including a Death Company Dreadnought and the fabled Furioso Dreadnought. The Sons of Sanguinius will be deep striking onto a tabletop near you this April – now’s the time to practice painting red.
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The Blood Angels have always been a powerful close combat army
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Misli "powerful" onoliko koliko jedan marinac to moze da bude. Verovatno ce imati neke stvari koje imaju i vukovi sada, znaci nista specijalno... methinks :D

Interesuje me samo da li ce death company dreadnought i dalje moci da ima 2 cc oruzja, sve ostalo mi je nebitno :D
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Da vidimo tu celu najavu

The Blood Angels have always been a powerful close combat army and have been made even deadlier thanks to a range of specialist wargear, the ability to field Assault Squads as Troops choices, and more Dreadnoughts than any other Space Marine Chapter, including a Death Company Dreadnought and the fabled Furioso Dreadnought. The Sons of Sanguinius will be deep striking onto a tabletop near you this April – now’s the time to practice painting red.

Znaci ajde da budemo bukvalisti specialst gear ili ce obicni assault squads imati iste wargear opcije koje sada imaju samo veteran blood angel assault squads ili ce napraviti neka proxi imena za oruzja koja su u stvari +str i power kao sto je ucinjeno za SW i BT.

Vise dreka nego ostali chapteri pa i da mozes sest nije to vise nego sto bilo koji vanila chapter moze sa master of the forge death company i virtuoso dreka done that been there.

deep strike vojska opet rupa na saksiji to takodje moze i vanila a ako se to svodi na squadove jeftinijih vanguarda GW ce dokazatii da beastmeni nisu jedini fast copy/paste army e ako GW skupi muda i uradi nesto realno unbalanced i recimo ucini da BA assault Squads mogu da napadnu odmah posto deep strikuju e to vec zvuci lepo.

Molim boga da ne prave concepat BA slicnim SW novom codexu malo poentazno besomucno skupih modela koji imaju survivability mrtve kokoske jer 5ta edicija realno odgovara massive mechanized shooting armiji kao IG (tau not included)a ne mi jurisamo bez mehanizacije na jump packovima dok nas ne desetkuje multi laser ili 6 obliteratora sa plasmama.

Ipak ovo su samo moje rane spekulacije i GW bi sve mogao da nas prijatno iznenadi (driping with enormous cinicism at his own BS statement :) )
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Assault marinci kao trupe, obicni marinci ce moci da imaju cc wpn/pistol, furioso/dc dreka ce biti sigurno, baal predator isto. Veterani ce biti baje prebijaci i SAMO prebijaci (tesko da ce moci da rade ista drugo osim cc, znaci nema range gluposti), i trista posto ce biti neki spec. karakter koji ce reci "veterani su scoring" i sl. To ce biti Dante mozda? Mephiston ce biti "I-point-you-die" tip lika, verovatno vrnu i Moriara (furioso dreka spec. character). Death Company zanesenjaci ce biti kao lone wolf iz SW codexa; ako zaginu, nikom nista, ako ne, gubite poene, jer ce morati da ih zakljucaju u Tower of the Lost, a to iziskuje truda i resurse i dragoceno vreme. :lol: Bilo bi lepo da vrnu pravilo koje su imali u drugoj ediciji : na pocetku partije se rola za svaki model, pa na keca valjda ovaj podlegne Black Rageu,i postaje Death Company. :D
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Nesto o fluffu iz Tiranidskog kodeksa:
The fluff is cool. It goes into detail on the main three fleets like the old codex did but it also covers a handful of fleets previously not discussed: Naga, Gorgon, Jormungander and the Ghorala Swarm. I won't go into detail and spoil it, but these fleets cover attacks on the Eldar, the Tau and the Orcs. The way the Hive Mind behaves in each of these encounters is very insightful. I suggest the fluff be the first thing you read when you get the codex.
The Swarmlord: This guy is immortal (in the fluff. the Hive saves his consciousness when he dies and makes him again. He's their answer whenever an enemy appears unbeatable.).
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