6. edicija FAQ
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Mozda ovo nije najbolje mesto za ovo pitanje, ali ne znam bolje, pa cu pitati ovde - da li se, osim na nasim, i na ostalim turnirima seste edicije dozvoljavaju specijalni karakteri? Izmedju ostalog, ETC?
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Generalno su dozvoljeni. Na ETC ne znam, jos nema rules packa za 6.ediciju.
U 5-oj nisu bili dozvoljeni na ETC-u.
U 5-oj nisu bili dozvoljeni na ETC-u.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Hvala 
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Zapravo meni se cini da su bili dozvoljeni spec karakteri ove godine na ETC-u 
1000 year-old lords of the walking dead? Chosen avatars of the dark gods leading horrible creatures from another dimension? Ancient members of the civilization who created the very world upon which we wage our wars? Bah! We're skittish mutant rats. We've got a bell. And we're going to ring it till your ears hurt bleed. Bitches.
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Jesu, proverio sam rules pack koji je Darko linkovao u drugoj temi. Stavka 2.1.RatGod wrote:Zapravo meni se cini da su bili dozvoljeni spec karakteri ove godine na ETC-u
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
nema ni mesec dana od ovog novog kodeksa, right?
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Cus ... _v1.0a.pdf
ali zato ima FAQ za isti. Koji je... vrlo interesantan 8-)
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Cus ... _v1.0a.pdf
ali zato ima FAQ za isti. Koji je... vrlo interesantan 8-)
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
dobro, svi smo predpostavili da Tifus nije ogranicen brojem zombi kultista, lepo sto je razjasnjeno odma
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Zdravo ljudi. :]
Kako relic blade radi u 6. ediciji? U marinackom codexu za 5. ediciju (koji, koliko vidim, je i dalje aktuelan) je opisan samo kao power weapon sa snagom 6 koji ne dobija +1 napad od drugog close combat oruzja. Ali u 6th ed rulebooku, power weaponi svi imaju razlicit AP i nemam pojma koji AP relic blade koristi. Je li se vodi kao Unusual Power Weapon i stoga ima ap3 (sto mi nelogicno da oruzje koje kosta 30 poena ima tako losh AP, pogotovo u poredjenju sa power axe-om iz 6th editiona). SM FAQ za sestu ediciju nista ne spominje. :[
Buni me takodje sto sada power axe, power sword, itd. imaju razlicite karakteristike bazirane na WYSIWYG, ali nigde nije objasnjeno kako se to odnosi na poentaze. Recimo, da li power axe kosta 15 poena, koliko kosta bazicni power weapon u 5th ed marinackom dexu? Pitam, zato sto mi je nerealno da power sword koji ima str4 ap3 kosta isto poena kao power axe koji ima str5 ap2 unwieldy.
Kako relic blade radi u 6. ediciji? U marinackom codexu za 5. ediciju (koji, koliko vidim, je i dalje aktuelan) je opisan samo kao power weapon sa snagom 6 koji ne dobija +1 napad od drugog close combat oruzja. Ali u 6th ed rulebooku, power weaponi svi imaju razlicit AP i nemam pojma koji AP relic blade koristi. Je li se vodi kao Unusual Power Weapon i stoga ima ap3 (sto mi nelogicno da oruzje koje kosta 30 poena ima tako losh AP, pogotovo u poredjenju sa power axe-om iz 6th editiona). SM FAQ za sestu ediciju nista ne spominje. :[
Buni me takodje sto sada power axe, power sword, itd. imaju razlicite karakteristike bazirane na WYSIWYG, ali nigde nije objasnjeno kako se to odnosi na poentaze. Recimo, da li power axe kosta 15 poena, koliko kosta bazicni power weapon u 5th ed marinackom dexu? Pitam, zato sto mi je nerealno da power sword koji ima str4 ap3 kosta isto poena kao power axe koji ima str5 ap2 unwieldy.
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Power weapon moze biti axe,lance, sword ili maul. Sve zavisi od toga kako ga izmodelujes na figuri. U novijim codexima bi trebali da imaju razlicite cene, u starijim se sve to vodi kao "power weapon". Proveri zvanicni GW FAQ za bilo kakve nedoumice.Page 99 – Wargear, Relic Blade.
Replace the second paragraph with the following profile:
S 6 AP 3 Type Melee, Two-handed
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igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
uzevsi u obzir kako izgelda CSM codex, nece biti promene u poenima. Power sword koji je S ap3 i power axe koji je S+1 ap2 unwieldly ce kostati isto. Sta imas zavisi od toga sta si zalepio na modelu (kao sto su i naglasili)
U nekim eksplicitnim slucajevima neke opcije nece biti dostupne nekim modelima (tipa chaplain ima iskljucivo power maul, warsmith ima power axe, i slicno).
I sto rece Pera, za sve nedoumice pogledaj obavezno FAQ, (uglavnom) sve su iscukali u njima.
U nekim eksplicitnim slucajevima neke opcije nece biti dostupne nekim modelima (tipa chaplain ima iskljucivo power maul, warsmith ima power axe, i slicno).
I sto rece Pera, za sve nedoumice pogledaj obavezno FAQ, (uglavnom) sve su iscukali u njima.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
:badger: :badger: :badger:Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Aaaaaaa, meni search izbacio verziju 1.0 FAQ, a ne 1.1, pa zato nisam video to za relic blade. Fala na razjasnjenju. :]
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Da li se random generisanje psychic powera odnosi samo na ove opste powere u rulebooku (biomancy, telekinesis, itd.), ili vazi i za powere iz codexa? Recimo, ako hocu da librarian koristi samo powere iz SM dexa, da li mogu da kao i u petoj ediciji izaberem koja god dva powera hocu, ili treba i tu da randomizujem?
U 1.1 FAQ pise:
Drugo, u rulebooku kaze:
U 1.1 FAQ pise:
Meni iz prilozenog deluje da i dalje mozemo da izaberemo powere iz dex-a, a da se randomizuje samo ako se uzimaju poweri iz rulebooka. Ako je tako, moze li da se odabere po zelji jedan power iz SM dexa, a drugi da se randomizuje iz rulebooka, i sl. kombinacije?Psychic Powers
A Space Marine Librarian (including Tigurius) may use the
psychic disciplines found in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook,
instead of those in Codex: Space Marines. If he does so,
generate two new powers from the Biomancy, Pyromancy,
Telepathy or Telekinesis disciplines (in any combination) before
armies are deployed. Tigurius instead generates three new
powers.
Drugo, u rulebooku kaze:
Da li ovo znaci da na turniru, gde imas jednu allcomers listu, psycheri u svakoj partiji iznova generisu moci? Opet, kako se ovo odnosi na powere iz dexa? Zbunjuje me zato sto u 5-toj ediciji, biranje psychic powera je bilo kao biranje wargeara, to jest to sto si izabrao, to moras da koristis, nema menjanja powera zavisno protiv koga se boris, a ovo random generisanje powera omogucava da manje-vise prilagodjavas psykera u svakoj partiji.Before either player deploys their army, you must generate psychic
powers for your Psykers. This is done openly, so both you and your
opponent are aware of the power(s) each Psyker has generated. If your
anny includes more than one Psyker, you can choose the order in
which you generate their powers.
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Psychic poweri ne mogu da se kombinuju...
Moraš da koristiš ili ove iz kodeksa ili nove. Znači nema malo ovo malo ono.
Mada ako imaš više payker-a onda jedan može "odavde", a drugi "odande"...
I da, ako koristiš nove power-e ne moraju da budu iz iste discipline...
Dalje power-e iz knjige biraš kao i do sada, tj. kažeš šta 'oćeš, a novi su random...
S' tim da jedan power možeš da zameniš za primaris power dotične discipline...
Što se tiče turnira, stari power-i su "preselected", tj. unapred izabereš šta ti treba, i to ti je što ti je...
Novi su random, i to za svaku partiju... Pre početka baciš kocke ili izvučeš kartice, pa šta ti upadne...
Moraš da koristiš ili ove iz kodeksa ili nove. Znači nema malo ovo malo ono.
Mada ako imaš više payker-a onda jedan može "odavde", a drugi "odande"...
I da, ako koristiš nove power-e ne moraju da budu iz iste discipline...
Dalje power-e iz knjige biraš kao i do sada, tj. kažeš šta 'oćeš, a novi su random...
S' tim da jedan power možeš da zameniš za primaris power dotične discipline...
Što se tiče turnira, stari power-i su "preselected", tj. unapred izabereš šta ti treba, i to ti je što ti je...
Novi su random, i to za svaku partiju... Pre početka baciš kocke ili izvučeš kartice, pa šta ti upadne...
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
pitanje vezano za psychic powere: da li power endurance iz biomancy lorea moze da se baci na vozilo? time bi vozilo dobilo feel no pain, it will not die, i relentless. e sad u opisu it will not die pise da bi vozilo sa ovim skilom sebi moglo da vrati hull poene. da li vozilo dobija i feel no pain i relentless - i kako bi se onda primenjivalo?
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Nigde ne pise da ne moze, stoga moze. (mada fluff-a radi nema logike, verovatno ce fakovati u nekom trenutku, zasad nema nista od toga).Megabaja wrote:pitanje vezano za psychic powere: da li power endurance iz biomancy lorea moze da se baci na vozilo? time bi vozilo dobilo feel no pain, it will not die, i relentless. e sad u opisu it will not die pise da bi vozilo sa ovim skilom sebi moglo da vrati hull poene. da li vozilo dobija i feel no pain i relentless - i kako bi se onda primenjivalo?
Feel no pain ne radi na vozila jel afektuje samo unsaved wounds.
It will not die radi na vozila.
Relentless bi znacilo da mozes da pucas sa svim weaponima i ako si se kretao combat ili crusing speedom.
Pogledao sam medju psychic powerima, special rulovima, vozilima i psycher pravilima i FAQ-ovima i nisam nasao nista sto bi opovrglo ove moje odgovore.
Ako vi nadjete nesto molim Vas da postujete.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
strana 71:
Vehicles always have the relentless special rule.
Tako da vredi da bacis to na vozilo jedino ako zelis da probas da vratis neke hull poene.
Vehicles always have the relentless special rule.
Tako da vredi da bacis to na vozilo jedino ako zelis da probas da vratis neke hull poene.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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jel moze neko ovo da mi pojasni?
sta ovo tacno znaci? da nema pravila za karaktere, da ne mogu da se prikljuce jedinicama?Q: Are the Sanguinor, Mephiston and Death Company Tycho
Independent Characters, or single model units in their own right?
(p41, 47, 51)
A: Single model units in their own right.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Da.
Ti ga kupis, on je jedan model, unit sam za sebe, seta po tabli, i to je to. Moze da kaze challenge, doduse.
Ne moze da se pridruzi unitu, moze da udje u transport, i sam zauzme ceo prostor. :D
Ti ga kupis, on je jedan model, unit sam za sebe, seta po tabli, i to je to. Moze da kaze challenge, doduse.
Ne moze da se pridruzi unitu, moze da udje u transport, i sam zauzme ceo prostor. :D
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
Hypodermic wrote:Da nije robotech-a ne bih bio ovakakv kakav jesam!
Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
i ne mora da udje u jedinicu na 2" od njega na kraju movementa. ne moze da zove celindz? moze da mu se prilkuci karakter, tako da prave nekadasnji unit of characters?
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Nece postati deo jedinice ako udje u 2" od iste. Moze da izdaje i prima challenges. Ne moze da mu se prikljuci karakter, zato sto je uvek "unit of 1". Efektivno se ponasa kao Monstrous creature character, na primer.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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gde pise za challenge? to moze samo karakter, a ovi to nisu.Nece postati deo jedinice ako udje u 2" od iste. Moze da izdaje i prima challenges. Ne moze da mu se prikljuci karakter, zato sto je uvek "unit of 1". Efektivno se ponasa kao Monstrous creature character, na primer.
i gde pise da ne moze da mu se prikljuci karakter? kod njih pise da su infantry, a ne monstruous creature, ili ista drugo.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
za opis za IC, prvi pasus: they may not join units that always consists of one model (like some monstrous creatures). Samo su naveli tu MCs kao primer, jer se MCs najcesce (ne uvek) javljaju kao unit of 1. (strana 39)
Dalje, mogu challenge jer JESU character. Samo jos da nadjem gde pise da imaju Character pravilo (samo nemaju IC pravilo). Cim nadjem koji dokument i koja strana, kucam.
EDIT: Nasao gde, Main Rulebook FAQ, strana 5 (od 7):
Q: Do models classified as unique count as characters? (p63)
A: Yes, but not in the case of vehicles (with the exception of
Bjorn the Fell-handed).
Svi navedeni "unit of 1" modeli su "unique". Pored njih, i Doom of Malantai je "unique", i verujem da ima jos nekih u drugim codexima koji su "unique" ali nisu IC
Dalje, mogu challenge jer JESU character. Samo jos da nadjem gde pise da imaju Character pravilo (samo nemaju IC pravilo). Cim nadjem koji dokument i koja strana, kucam.
EDIT: Nasao gde, Main Rulebook FAQ, strana 5 (od 7):
Q: Do models classified as unique count as characters? (p63)
A: Yes, but not in the case of vehicles (with the exception of
Bjorn the Fell-handed).
Svi navedeni "unit of 1" modeli su "unique". Pored njih, i Doom of Malantai je "unique", i verujem da ima jos nekih u drugim codexima koji su "unique" ali nisu IC
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
:badger: :badger: :badger:Re: 6. edicija FAQ
ovo prvo je ok.
ovo drugo bi trebalo da pise kod svako entry-ija u rulbuku pod special rules, ali ne pise.
ovo drugo bi trebalo da pise kod svako entry-ija u rulbuku pod special rules, ali ne pise.
Pamti, pa vrati...
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Slazem se da bi trebalo, ali umesto da napisu, oni su izbacili FAQ.Megabaja wrote:ovo drugo bi trebalo da pise kod svako entry-ija u rulbuku pod special rules, ali ne pise.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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ni tamo ne pise. sad bas gledam opis dreiga. lepo pise> infantry (character).
Pamti, pa vrati...
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Ama bre Suticu, vidi moj post gore, jos sam napisao na kojoj strani kog FAQ-a pise da su stvari koje su "unique" se tretiraju kao character.
Procitaj opis Mephistona. U Codex: BA. videces da stoji "unique" u opisu (str 82 BA kodeksa).
Procitaj opis Mephistona. U Codex: BA. videces da stoji "unique" u opisu (str 82 BA kodeksa).
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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nisam video EDITovani deo. poceo sam da pisem odmah, pa trazio po pravilima, pa nastavio, a za to vreme ti si dodao ovaj deo.
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Missile launcheri u sestoj ediciji - da li po defaultu svi imaju ovu trecu vrstu municije koja je s7 ap4 skyfire?
(tj da li moji ultramarinci/blood angeli resavaju flajere samim cinom posedovanja 2 devastator skvoda sa raketama, ili se placa dodatno na cenu missle laucnhera ako uopste moze da se uzme)
(tj da li moji ultramarinci/blood angeli resavaju flajere samim cinom posedovanja 2 devastator skvoda sa raketama, ili se placa dodatno na cenu missle laucnhera ako uopste moze da se uzme)
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Nemaju.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Nista, u tom slucaju obaravmo flajere tvrdjavom:)
Vezano za to: - da li tvrdjava zamenjuje jedan deo terena an mojoj strani ili predstavlja dodatan teren
+pitanje za wysiwyg: AKo sam ja spreman da moje cike konvertujem da imaju sekire a pravila kazu da imaju power weapon, oni imaju power axes, right?
Vezano za to: - da li tvrdjava zamenjuje jedan deo terena an mojoj strani ili predstavlja dodatan teren
+pitanje za wysiwyg: AKo sam ja spreman da moje cike konvertujem da imaju sekire a pravila kazu da imaju power weapon, oni imaju power axes, right?
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Da. Imaju snagu +1, ap2, ali udaraju inicijativom 1.Knight wrote: +pitanje za wysiwyg: AKo sam ja spreman da moje cike konvertujem da imaju sekire a pravila kazu da imaju power weapon, oni imaju power axes, right?
Mind Uploader wrote:... Kazem ja da je Pera isti Darth Vader, samo bez te moralne dubine...
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Giga wrote:Realno, sasvim je logicno da mogu bez problema da ih bace sa par stotina metara i da budu prilicno sigurni da tom land raideru nece biti nista
igor wrote:jako je tesko uzimati puno poena jer se igra po knjizi.
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Posto je uvedeno da mozes da skocis sa visih spratova ruine ako zelis brze da sidjes... sta biva sa unitom koji radi fallback iz ruine? da li moze/mora da skace u nekom momentu?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
:badger: :badger: :badger:Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Mora da skace. Ima u rulebooku na strani 95, ABANDON THE BATTLEMENTS. To ako ima zgrada battlementse, naravno, odnosno neki krov. Ako je samo standardna rusevinica onda se valjda vracaju normalno.Hypodermic wrote:Posto je uvedeno da mozes da skocis sa visih spratova ruine ako zelis brze da sidjes... sta biva sa unitom koji radi fallback iz ruine? da li moze/mora da skace u nekom momentu?
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Mislio sam bas za standardnu rusevinu, u kojoj mozes da biras. Za battlements ne mozes da biras, jedini nacin dole je da skocis.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Pa tu ili biras da skocis ili bacas standardno difficult terrain test i fallbackujes kao i obicno. Kaze na 99 strani. Ne vidim nigde da MORAS da skaces u bilo kom trenutku.Hypodermic wrote:Mislio sam bas za standardnu rusevinu, u kojoj mozes da biras. Za battlements ne mozes da biras, jedini nacin dole je da skocis.
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Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Gigo, ne pratis me. Na strani 99 pise da modeli "wich are not falling back" mogu da biraju da li ce da skoce ili ne. Moje pitanje je za modele koji rade fall back. Da li ne mogu da skoce, mogu da biraju ili moraju da skoce? Posto ja ne nalazim nigde u rulebooku da pise bilo sta za bilo koju od te tri verzije, ako znas stranu (a da nije 99), reci, ako ne, ....sledeci?
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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Ne postoji potreba da se sa litice bacaju jedinice koje beze jer one nisu usporene diff. terenom.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Taj CSM FAQ... 8O \:D/
Re: 6. edicija FAQ
Da li dreadnought koji postane karakter ima precision strike?