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Pa to ti ja i kazem - ti gledas neke Molder paranormalne situacije.

Moji nisu 3x bolji nego 2x. Zato te i ima 2x vise.

E ako tako gledas, isto tako ni on nece prici mojim bombama, nego ce me napucavati iz daljine, opet ce moci da izdvoji Uphama, kao tebi flamere, itd. I ja mu ne unistavam tenkove, nego su samo bail out, itd. Dakle i protiv mene isto tako moze da ne bude glup pa da ne srlja u kombat nego da mi celu partiju napucava pesadiju jer svaki tenk ima veci domet od pesadije i ne moze umreti od pesadije.

UK ubije te tenkove istom brzinom, jer ga ima duplo manje, a pogadja duplo bolje.

1) i ja napadnem tenkove bombama samo ako on to dozvoli.

2) to je totalno netacno (za imortal). Jeste UK su duplo bolji, zato ih ima duplo manje. Umrece ti 4 postolja od 20, ja nemam opciju da mi umre 2 postolja od 10... itd.

3) i tigar je tenk koji je named tenk, sa opisom ko ga jedini moze uzeti. Kao i mnogo sto sta u igri. Madjari isto tako imaju specijalno named pravilo za pomeranje, koje ne moze niko drugi imati, itd. - dakle svako ima nesto.

bloodletteri imaju move 5, puta 2 = 10, sto znaci da ako bace 2 stizu te. Ako uzimas irongute, onda ih poredi sa khonrne konjanicima.

Ja i dalje ne shvatam sta ti pokusavas da dokazes.... da je Upham jaci ni od cega? Jeste. Ako tako gledas, varijanta 3+ morala sa re-roll-om, je isto tako jaca od bilo kog morala bez re-roll-a (ukljucujuci i 2+). Veteran je jaci od bilo cega sto nije veteran. Ne mozes uporno gledati samo situacije koje ti odgovaraju. Ova igra se ne igra sa 1 statistikom i 1 jedinicom. Imas u proseku 6-12 jedinica na tabli (6 tenkovi, 12 neke pesadije), razlicitih statistika. Dakle ta matematika nije bas tako straight-forward kako je ti predstavljas. Uporedjujes UK modele da su duplo bolji od USSR, a ne racunas da ovih ima duplo vise i da imaju bolji moral. Sve to pritom radis sa 2 odigrane partije i vrlo povrsnim poznavanjem pravila.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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A sto ne biste lepo odigrali neku partiju. Upozoravam na vreme da ce u subotu biti ogranicen prostor, tako da bi mogli i jos neki dan da iskoristite. Mozda i ja navratim...

Malekith je pitao kakvi su italijani (fasisti, naravno) za LW. Losi su, nemaju vise heroj opciju, nemaju ''avanti'' pravilo i imaju dosta losiju 8mil.bayonets tabelu. Mogu da uzmu dosta arty, nesto nemackog AT i mardere.

Sve u svemu dosta losi, mada bi mozda mogao da razmislim da ih skupim. Doduse morao bi nove da uzimam, posto su figure drugacije, drugacije se farbaju, itd.... videcu jos.
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Ili da uzmes pakovanje lw svabova? :D Realno,nesto ces od njih mozda koristiti za te italijane kao saveznike,a mozes i da igras sa njima...
Jbg,ni moji tenkovi nisu zlato za lw.(p)ostaju bulja ,mada jeftina bulja nadasve :roll: :cry: .A i padobranci poskupljuju u poenima.I feel your pain :lol:
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Ako bi uzimao nesto od svaba to je AT. Mada LW nije nesto sto mi je trenutno prioritet. Pedja kaze da je verovatnije da ce da izbace early war prvo, a tu sam ''jak ko zemlja'' :lol:
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Raspravku smo dovrsili kuci :D... i postoje neki preliminarni razgovori o sneznoj tabli ;). Modularnoj ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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i za kraj ove teme danas protiv Zulufa i proxy madžara
moral za pešadiju: 1,1,2
štura
u dve partije za dva dana...
nemoj neko više da mi je izvlačio procente
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Cek jel su to one "kanadske" kockice? :)))
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Stevan wrote:Cek jel su to one "kanadske" kockice? :)))
jok more
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Koristi one nemacke iz kluba. One ne bacaju ispod 4. Dobro, mozda ponekad 3.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Koristi one nemacke iz kluba. One ne bacaju ispod 4. Dobro, mozda ponekad 3.
koristio iz Zuluf
nabacao se kečeva za sve pare
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E nestro sam skontao..vi se starno tripujete na kocke:)
Sto to jednostavno ne resite igranjem sa istim kockama?
Mada ja i dalje mislim da tripujete :lol:
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A nene, postoje kocke koje bolje bacaju i koje losije bacaju. I pored toga moras da verujes da ces dobro da bacis, inace bacis lose :D. Ja naravno uvek dajem svoje kockice (koje dobro bacaju) protivniku, ali posto oni ne veruju, onda bace lose :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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kockice koje sam ja koristio do pre par meseci je kupila moja devojka kada smo prvi puit išli zajedno na more
služile su savršeno, međutim nismo ih poneli sa sobom kada smo prošlog leta išli na Kubu
kockice su se naljutile i od tada bacaju očajno
tako da sam prestao da ih koristim
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Hmm..ne znam. ja prosto zavtim kocke i bacim:)
Ne razmisljam mnogo o tome kakve su:)
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Zato i gresis.Moras da se skoncentrises i bacis kocke tek kad si spreman.One su kao zivo stvorenje,imaju svoja osecanja.Cuvaj ih,neguj i pazi,vodi sa sobom i obavezno ih zagrevaj pre upotrebe (ne bukvalno da ih grejes,vec ih malo isprobaj pre partije).
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Melekithe..plasis me:)
Ne prosto..nekad rade dobro nekad lose..tako valjda i treba... pa kocke su hebem mu sunac.
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Opusteno :lol:
Ja sam izvalio da su neke moje matore providne kocke super.Imam neke male bele koji rolaju prosecno (nit smrde nit mirisu) i imam (za sad) 3 americke iz fow startera koje nemogu da prebace preko 2-3,a svaki 100roll je 5-6.Njih cuvam za leadership u wh40k :mrgreen:
Naravno da treba da budu prosecni rolovi ali sta je kad onaj preko puta tebe ima samo 5-6ice?Sto se mene tice nemam nista protiv da protivnik koristi moje kocke.
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MA bre stavi se jedan set kocaka na astal i rolate...i automstski prestanete da trazmisljate o tome da li su neke kocke bolje ili losije:)
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melekith wrote:Zato i gresis.Moras da se skoncentrises i bacis kocke tek kad si spreman.One su kao zivo stvorenje,imaju svoja osecanja.Cuvaj ih,neguj i pazi,vodi sa sobom i obavezno ih zagrevaj pre upotrebe (ne bukvalno da ih grejes,vec ih malo isprobaj pre partije).
Stevan wrote:Melekithe..plasis me:)
Ne prosto..nekad rade dobro nekad lose..tako valjda i treba... pa kocke su hebem mu sunac.
Ako im pevas, ili pricas sa njima, pre partije, bacas 1 skalu vise :D :lol:
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Teksim matematickim proracunima (3x2...6; 3x2... 6!!!... kad ja mjeri kamjmak, i ljudi dolaze, i traze 300 grama, ja dam 8 iljada kila... 3x8... 24!) dosao sam do zakljucka da je Zajcev odlican karakter, i da su za USSR snajperi odlican izbor.

Kako i zasto, videcete u praksi :D.

Takodje, imam jos jednu raspravu sa Nikolom: da li USSR moze da ima 3 snajpera + Zajceva ili samo 2 komada plus njega?
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Dzon Vejn wrote:Teksim matematickim proracunima (3x2...6; 3x2... 6!!!... kad ja mjeri kamjmak, i ljudi dolaze, i traze 300 grama, ja dam 8 iljada kila... 3x8... 24!) dosao sam do zakljucka da je Zajcev odlican karakter, i da su za USSR snajperi odlican izbor.

Kako i zasto, videcete u praksi :D.

Takodje, imam jos jednu raspravu sa Nikolom: da li USSR moze da ima 3 snajpera + Zajceva ili samo 2 komada plus njega?
pažljivo sam pročitao više puta da mi se ne desi isto ko i komesarima
reklo bi se da može 3+Vasilije
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Snajperi su mi malo problematicni. Mislim da su ''bag'', posto cemo imati snajperske igrarije ako krenemo da ih koristimo. Kako pise u rulbuku svaka inf rgmt moze da ima 3 komata (valjda se to odnosi i na zabare). Oni su u principu mega ultra giga artiljerije koje su skoro neubivljive. Za 150 poena dobiju se 3 artiljerije, koje cine igru dosta zavisnu od rola za motivaciju. Znaci pola partije cemo provasti rolajuci da odpinujemo pesadiju.
To znaci da ce uphamu i ruskoj inf da se znacajno poveca korisnost. Italijanu ostaje da izjuri sa komandantom i moli boga da ovaj nagazi na minu, kad vec ne mogu sami da ga ubiju...

Takodje pitanje da li postoje figure za njih?

jos jedno pitanje, sta ce nam arty pored snajpera? Ako rus stavi 4 snajpera mislim da postoji jako mala matematicka sansa da se pobedi drugom pesadijom.

Vec vidim da se polako pocinjemo okretati tenkovskim cetama.... :D
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Snajper ima 16" domet,jeste da auto pinuje ali ubija koliko postolja po krugu?A koliko artiljerija poklapa templejtom?3 snajpera kostaju skoro kao prosecna artiljerija od 4 cevi.
Koliko ce tenkova snajper da ubije?A koliko artiljerija?
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MA Nikolici power playeri raspali:)
Rekoh ti ja..izbunarice sve sto e izbunariti da:)
A opet..jel nemaju sve liste te snajpere?
A ti Momo bre mnogo kukas..ko baba neka:)
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par puta su snajperi korišćeni do sada bez ikakvog preteranog uspeha
lično mislim da je 150 poena na snajpere bačene pare
toliko košta rusima 6 AT topova od 45mm 24"/3/8/4+
pošto skoro ni jedan scenario nije ograničen brojem krugova kad se snajper pojavi jednostavno se vratiš i ubiješ ga ili ga prosto ignorišeš
na stranu što koristnost snajpera najviše zavisi od terena
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Stevan wrote:MA Nikolici power playeri raspali:)
Rekoh ti ja..izbunarice sve sto e izbunariti da:)
A opet..jel nemaju sve liste te snajpere?
A ti Momo bre mnogo kukas..ko baba neka:)
ma snajperi su golo govno
ajde kako da zaustave tenkove ili oklopne grenadire?
pri tom uz malo sreće italijan ih ubije u jednom potezu a svi ostali u 2
snajper ne sme da se kreće, čim mu priđeš u asaltu mrtav je
po meni njegova najbolje primena je u uništavanju artiljerije zbog FP4+ i činjenice da topovi ne mogu da budu concealed kada su ukopani
a Momi je po default-u da kuka ko zadušna baba...
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Ako ste lepo citali rekoh da deluju samo protiv pesadije. S druge strane kad Nikolici nesto smisle, znaci kad se ne prepucavaju nego ujedine njihove loknice, to je skoro uvek delotvorno.

Jeste da snajper ubije 1 postolje ali on pinuje rusku cetu na 2+, nema nekoliko rolova artijlerije, a opet ta ista arty imoze da se koncentrise na bombardovanje druge artiljerije. Znaci svaki krug rolas da otpinujes. Pedja kaze da onda krenes ka njemu da ga eliminises. Pa to je i poenta, menjas plan napada zbog 1 postolja. Misim da im arty uopste nije primarni cilj nego pesadija.
Jeste skupo ali mislim da deluje, uostalom videcete. U stvari necete posto i malekit i steva(virtuelno za sada :) ) igraju tenkovske cete.

U stvari jedino ce meni da stete posto ja jedini igram inf cetu. Eto kosmicke nepravde. A mozda je vreme da predjem na tenkove.

U stvari najbolje da cutim, pa kad vas N+N oderu s nekim novim forama, onda kukajte :D
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po meni ti snajperi će samo da produže partiju za nekoliko krugova
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I ja regularno igram sa inf ali sam tenkove isprobao u proslu subotu cisto da vidim rade li ista.3 snajpera za 10% vojske?Mislis da zaista vredi toliko?
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3 snajpera je mozda previse ali par komada, mislim da mogu da budu zajebani. Shvatite da je ''infantri hordi'', kako se lepo zovu inf liste na zvanicnom FOW forumu, najbitnije pinovanje i dimljenje ako moze. Sve ostalo se resi u assaultu.

Uostalom videcemo.
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tačno tako
živi bili pa videli...
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Ovako, snajperi rade sledece:

- protiv infantry je jasno nadam se
- protiv tenkova odmah gadjas observere, to ti je prva meta, pa neoklopljena vozila (AA gunovi), pa onda ako ima neka artiljerija i / ili AT (dakle nesto sto ima save 5+, a vredi)
- jednog snajpera skines lako. 4 komada koja su ti rasuta po tabli, to vec malo teze
- Zajcev daje svim snajperima re-roll to hit a on sam ima da tera protivnika na re roll save-a. To znaci da bi trebao da pinujes 2-3 jedinice po krugu (to je prosek, a da pinujes 4 je malo iznad proseka). Za 250 poena. A to ne mozes uraditi drugim stvarima
- takodje, za razliku od ostatka USSR artiljerije (koja je conscript), koja mora prvo da te spotuje, pa te onda u proseku pogadja na 6 - snajperi mogu da pogadjaju i na 2+ (druge conscripte).
- takodje, ako imas dobar teren, da bi assaultovao snajpera, moraces da pokusas neki bog test sa tenkovima
- imas FP 4+, sto znaci da vrlo efektivno mozes da upucas i nesto ukopano, i nesto sa gunshieldom, itd.

Mana je sto cistim tenkovima ne mozes nista. Mada ko izvede ciste tenkove, tu su sapperi i flameri. Ne secam se samo da li sam ugurao i avione, ali i to se da srediti :D.

edit: isplati se samo rusima, jer samo oni obicno pogadjaju na 6+, nemaju smoke, i najbolji igrivi AT im je 9 (a ako puca direktno, nema pinovanja). Iz istog razloga su im i avioni odlican izbor - nema nikakve veze sto je cela armija conscript, avion uredno moze da bombarduje cak i na 3+ ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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Dzon Vejn wrote:Ovako, snajperi rade sledece:

- protiv infantry je jasno nadam se
- protiv tenkova odmah gadjas observere, to ti je prva meta, pa neoklopljena vozila (AA gunovi), pa onda ako ima neka artiljerija i / ili AT (dakle nesto sto ima save 5+, a vredi)
- jednog snajpera skines lako. 4 komada koja su ti rasuta po tabli, to vec malo teze
- Zajcev daje svim snajperima re-roll to hit a on sam ima da tera protivnika na re roll save-a. To znaci da bi trebao da pinujes 2-3 jedinice po krugu (to je prosek, a da pinujes 4 je malo iznad proseka). Za 250 poena. A to ne mozes uraditi drugim stvarima
- takodje, za razliku od ostatka USSR artiljerije (koja je conscript), koja mora prvo da te spotuje, pa te onda u proseku pogadja na 6 - snajperi mogu da pogadjaju i na 2+ (druge conscripte).
- takodje, ako imas dobar teren, da bi assaultovao snajpera, moraces da pokusas neki bog test sa tenkovima
- imas FP 4+, sto znaci da vrlo efektivno mozes da upucas i nesto ukopano, i nesto sa gunshieldom, itd.

Mana je sto cistim tenkovima ne mozes nista. Mada ko izvede ciste tenkove, tu su sapperi i flameri. Ne secam se samo da li sam ugurao i avione, ali i to se da srediti :D.

edit: isplati se samo rusima, jer samo oni obicno pogadjaju na 6+, nemaju smoke, i najbolji igrivi AT im je 9 (a ako puca direktno, nema pinovanja). Iz istog razloga su im i avioni odlican izbor - nema nikakve veze sto je cela armija conscript, avion uredno moze da bombarduje cak i na 3+ ;).
i pogađaš na 6
u rusiji nemački AA je najčešće oklopljen
rusi su jedini conscript
zajcev, 3 snajpera, avioni i to minimum minimuma i 2 čete pešadije je već 760 poena ako još na to staviš i flejmere i pionire dobićeš ruski bataljon od 4-5 četa a to neće daleko da dogura...
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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- protiv tenkova odmah gadjas observere
E Hummeli npr mogu da uzmu observer tenak..P III.
Mislim nije da ce i on ziveti nesto dugo..al snajperi ga mrze intenzivno:)
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Mislio je na obzervere koji idu peske.I moji m7 pristovi imaju sherman op tenk koga takodje mozes da mrzis intenzivno.Naravno ko je lud da stavi obzervera negde gde na 16" mozes da stavis snajper?
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Upravo tako - imas 4-5 jedinica, ali ni jedna ne mere da umre ;).

Tank obzerveri su super stvar, ako protivnik nema i neki AT gun. U suprotnom je 10 puta bolje da imas cikicu.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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Ja sam proveo celo jedno radno vreme (zrtvovao sam 8 sati na poslu za to umesto da farbam figure :twisted: ) gledajuci slike iz II sv rata, staljingrada pre i posle i za vreme, itd itd. Otpriliki svaka treca slika je ruski snajperista ili vise njih sto me navodi na razmisljanje da su ih ruje imale do jaja mnogo. Stoga je moja ideja od samog pocetka bila da imam snajperiste, pa cu i probati sa njima sigurno da igram. Sad, zajcev je moj omiljen lik iz rata, pa cu ga sigurno i isprobati na bojistu, ali moje neko tumacenje je da moze samo da se uzme on i 2 druga snajpera. Pravila kazu da mozes da imas max 3 snajpera, a prvo pravilo za zajceva kaze da je on snajper i warrior
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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Nagledaj se dokumentaraca i filmova na tu temu,pa sta ti se najvise dojmi probaj da ubacis u listu.Prava je uzivancija kad igras sa listom koja je realno istorijski i bila tacna nego da se ubijas od digitrona i statistika pa izadjes sa 3 stuga u mw afriku.
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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Erm Melekithe...mozes da regularno uzmes 3 Stuga f/8 za Afriku...dede bre ljudi opustite se.
Sad nesto kontam..znaci i na turnir treba izlaziti sa dve liste koliko sam shvatio..napravis armiju i za Afriku i za Ostfront i onda menjas?:)
Nesto ne verujem da se tako igra napolju.
Zapravo..napolju ljudi pikaju toliko opusteno da se sibaju i Axis VS Axis i Alies VS Alies.
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Re: bezumne brojke vol1

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Stevan wrote:Erm Melekithe...mozes da regularno uzmes 3 Stuga f/8 za Afriku...dede bre ljudi opustite se.
Sad nesto kontam..znaci i na turnir treba izlaziti sa dve liste koliko sam shvatio..napravis armiju i za Afriku i za Ostfront i onda menjas?:)
Nesto ne verujem da se tako igra napolju.
Zapravo..napolju ljudi pikaju toliko opusteno da se sibaju i Axis VS Axis i Alies VS Alies.
to sto neko voli istorijsku tacnost je njegov licni pogled na stvar i to je to ... tj. naravno da ne treba da imas 2 liste za nemce u MW ... i naravno da mozes da igras sa panterom protiv amerikanaca ...
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