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Dobro, pazi, ipak ne mozes da se zalis na chaos codex. Ako izuzmemo chaos spawn-ove, navedi jedan unit koji ne radi dobro za svoje poene ;). Jednostavno sve sto imamo u codexu je dobro, i sve radi nesto. Slanis marinci uopste nisu losi po mom misljenju (pokretljivost uz dosta pucanja, ili staticnost uz jebeno mnogo pucanja), a ni cinc (anti-marinacki shooteri). Mada su mi naravano Khorne i Nurgle bolji (jer su "namenskiji" - jedni za napad, drugi za odbranu objektiva).

Mozda cak i chaos spawn unit ima neku svoju ulogu, koju ja ne mogu da primetim ;).

A GW poslovnost je svima jasna, i nadasve poznata ;). To je uvek bilo tako, i tako ce i biti ;)... stim se nekako pomiris vremenom i sve je onda ok ;).

Takodje, mislim da je chaos space marinacu, ako ne najlakse, onda svakako medju top nekoliko armija, da se prilagodi za "turnirsko igranje". Oni ne pate od onog sindroma "papir-kamen-makaze", a bojim se da ce demonhunter imati taj problem (ocistis haos, ali imas armiju koja tebe ocisti). Tu su obliteratori jednostavno ultimativni izbor ;).
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

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Dobro, pazi, ipak ne mozes da se zalis na chaos codex.
DA, mozes.
Ako izuzmemo chaos spawn-ove, navedi jedan unit koji ne radi dobro za svoje poene ;).
Vecina jedinica su skupa za ono sto rade, neke manje (ceo Elite, ceo HS osim Obliteratora), neke vise (Sorcerer, ceo Fast Attack).
Takodje, mislim da je chaos space marinacu, ako ne najlakse, onda svakako medju top nekoliko armija, da se prilagodi za "turnirsko igranje".
Da, zato sto se sve haos armije svode na jedan build: 2 Demonska princa, 3 full unita Marinaca u Rhinoima i Obliteratore, dok ostale armije imaju bar 2-3.
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Generalno se slazemo osim u :
Ako izuzmemo chaos spawn-ove, navedi jedan unit koji ne radi dobro za svoje poene
Possessedi, Emperors Children (preskupi), Thousand sons( Preskupi i neefektivni u novoj ediciji gde svi imaju cover, veruj mi imam ih 30), havoci (cemu kad postoje obliteratori) , Chaos drednoti, lesser demoni (radije bih uvek imao marinca za malo vise poena, ergo-preskupi), svi spec. karakteri osim Kharna i Abadona.
There... izlio sam dusu :D :lol:
Ostalo je stvarno ok , ali cekajte, kad izadje novi Chaos kodeks it will be one codex to rule them all!!! :twisted:
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PeraNekron wrote:
Pendargon wrote:...ako izadje novi haos kodeks u nekoj od sledecih godina, a pre nekronskog kodeksa..

Ovako zvuci najispravnije! :lol: :lol: 8-) 8-)
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Jokaero mi deluje vrlo sitno.
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Ja se ne bih slozio sa vasim komentarima, ali to je vase vidjenje stvari ;).

Moja lista nije imala ni jednog rhinoa, i mislim da sam imao 2 ili 3 obliteratora, i opet sam bio u top 5 (ako se dobro secam) na turniru. Imao sam dosta lesser demona, imao sam 2 heavy slota koja nisu obliteratori, imao sam fast slot raptora, itd. A da sam znao da mozes da trcis posle deep strike-a, igrao bih sa Donevskim draw, sto bi me verovatno bacilo jos koju poziciju iznad ;). Kao i da sam imao ofarbanu celu armiju ;).

Pritom ja igram vrlo casual - van turnira mozda odigram par bitaka u toku godine (svakako manje od 10 ako ne racunamo turnir).

To bi meni reklo da taj haos uopste nije los ;).

A ovo sto je Dule napisao ja vidim na drugi nacin - naravno da imas bolji izbor u listi za te iste poene, ali po mom misljenju (a kazem, ja igram 10 partija godisnje, tako da to mozda i nije merodavno), to ne znaci da su ti "drugi" izbori losi, samo da nisu odabir najbolje moguce opcije (a u poredjenju sa drugim armijama i dalje imaju sasvim lep odnos ulozenih poena i onoga sto rade).

A sto se tice rumora, mene najvise interesuje kada izlazi necron codex, ako iko zna? Da ocistim prasinu sa istih :D.
That was a hazardous consultation of the Libre Mortis my Lord. An ordeal of high and low doom. The moment I approached the book, it bit me most ferociously.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.

Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.

And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.

Glory to Arstotzka!
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A sad nesto non-GK related:
Pero, kako da ti kazem, ali izgleda ce se cak i SQUATOVI vratiti pre nego sto ti dobijes novi codex...
Demiurg will be returning with the TAU!
depending on printing problems it is possible they will be slated for November 2011 moving the Necrons back

Demiurg will be a troop choice and have t4 s5(with battle axe) 5+ 5+FNP(intoxicating save) and SAP but will be allowed to charge 6" instead of rolling
There is a squat HQ but no info yet.

Kroot are still in as well as the Firewarriors

Character unlocks crisis suits as troops and they have gotten much better.
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HA! :D Tacno sam znao da ce da uvedu Demiurge, kada su vec krenuli sa Jokaero.
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Ko je rekao Jokaero???

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hahha, Petre, ako se spacepatuljci pojave pre nekrona, samtracu da sam moralno pobedio stagod da se desi sa redosledom izlazaka kodeksa... i ocekivacu makar pivo da te ne bih brutalno zezao svaki put kada te vidim! :-D
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Agitatori....provokatori,...krvopije...lesinari...ah,ah, videcete vi....cim dobijem novi codex....vengeance..shall be mine!! And I will triumph with the last laugh! :twisted:
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ah dodjavola sad cju morati i da skupljam tau....
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kakva glupost za ovog castelana crowa stavili su mu storm bolter kao sto ide na terminatore(municija je u kutiji a ne u 2 okvira) a onim obicnim pacenicima dali one grozote
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Jel neko mozda pronasao negde pdf knjigu, ili AB file, ili point cost-ove za nove GK...? :geek:
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Našli smo :)
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link pliz pliz pliz :pray: :pray: :pray:
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ne moze na forumu javno da ti salje link prema tim sumljivim sajtovima tipa demonoid. To se krsi sa pravilima.
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Evo sta Hitler misli o novim Grey Knightovima. :D

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Kao njegov kolega dugogodisnji grey knight igrac slazem se ali on zaboravlja da nam sveti draigo dalje i mogucnost da rerolujemo keceve :wink:
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Apri-li-li-li-li..... :)
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To im je opasna sala: mozda ce da inspirisu Matt Ward-a da ubaci nesto slicno u kodeks. :lol:
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PeraNekron wrote:Apri-li-li-li-li..... :)
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Otprilike tada ce i da izadje :-D
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Ako vrate legije u kodeks haosa ima ponovo da zaigram. Mnogo ste se, bre raspustili bez čvrste a pravedne ruke Nurglove.

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Necron rumors:


1) No surprise here, but Necrons are still essentially Tomb Kings in space fluff wise. A shift in fluff is now that all of the higher up necrons are intelligent while the lower level ones are still basically automatons. I guess that's roughly the same as it used to be, but apparently there is more emphasis in the sentience of the higher Necrons now (hence the named Lords).

2) C'Tan are still in the codex...sort of. They have been moved to the Elites section and are now a single unit choice, but with variable upgrade powers you can take.

3) We'll be Back is no longer called that and it is NOT Feel No Pain. Basically it is a 5+ bonus save similar to Feel No Pain, but doesn't get cancelled out by double strength, AP1/2, etc. In addition, this save is made at the END of the phase after morale tests are taken. If the unit is wiped out or is falling back at the end of the phase, then the save cannot be used. So as an opponent, if you manage to wipe the unit out or make them fall back, then you prevent any Necrons from getting back up...unless the unit has something called the 'ever-living' rule, in which case it gets to attempt this save even if the unit is wiped out.

4) Gauss Weaponry does NOT have rending. It retains the 'auto-glance' on a penetration roll of a '6' rule, but apparently otherwise has lost the 'auto-wound' on a roll of a '6' regardless of Toughness that it used to have. The Gauss Cannon is now apparently Assault 2 & AP3 (I'm assuming the Strength is still 6). The Gaus Flux Arc on the Monolith no longer automatically hits every unit within range, instead each one fires separately and can hit four different targets.

5) Phase out is gone.

6) Destroyers now count as jump infantry and there is a new Fast Attack Jetbike unit called Tomb Blades.

7) Immortals are now a Troops choice. Pariahs are gone. Flayed Ones are Elites.

8) There are indeed 6 named characters (although I have no more info on them). There is also a Necron Overlord and a bodyguard unit called Crypteks. Crypteks can be split off before the game to lead units of Necrons, very similar to Wolf Guard in the Space Wolves codex. Crypteks can take a bunch of different technology upgrades, so there is kind of a way now to have personalized squad leaders in a Necron army.

9) They army is much more mobile now in general. They have several units of jump troops, and 2 new transport vehicles. 1 transport can carry 15 necrons while another can carry 10. Jump pack units count as 2 models and jetbikes count as 5. The one that holds 10 is able to recover casualties to a unit (although can't take it beyond its starting strength). Necron vehicles besides the monolith are open-topped skimmers. However they have something called 'Quantum shielding' which gives their front & side armor +2 until the vehicle takes its first glance/pen, at which point it loses the shielding. One of these two transports (not sure which one) is apparently a personal transport for the Lord (and his retinue).

10) There are six new vehicles in the codex (including the two transports mentioned above). Two of which seem to be based around this old Jes Goodwin design: http://storage.canalblog.com/29/28/731795/53057637.jpg

11) In general Necrons have a lot more long ranged fire support. There is also a new weapon type called Tesla weapons. These weapons, on a roll of '6' to hit automatically cause two more hits. The biggest version of the Tesla weapons has a chance of hitting all other units close to the target; both friend and foe. One of the new vehicles carries the doomsday cannon: 72" S9 AP1 Heavy 1 large blast. BS4.

12) In the Elites section there is a big new walker. It has a heat ray that that is either a melta or flamer depending on what you want to do. Any unit hit by this vehicle is marked (as in: laser targeted), which means that all other necrons count as being twin-linked for shooting at the marked enemy unit that turn.

13) Necron Warriors have the same basic statline they had before except they now have a 4+ save. Now before you go crazy, also note that their points cost is 12 points, which is a 1/3 price drop (down from 18 points). That means you get 1/3 more Warrior models in the army for the same amount of points...it also makes losing an entire unit due to sweeping advance, not nearly as painful.

I know a lot of cynical people will hate this and accuse GW from simply making the change to sell more Warrior models, and you could be right. But personally I was always hoping they were going to make Necron Warriors not quite as tough and dump the points cost on them, so you could really take a ton of them...given in my mind they are supposed to be more like a shambling horde of undead robots than some sort of small elite force of super-warriors (but that could just be me).

So this change alone totally changes the army from out of the 'MEQ' umbrella and makes their base statline unique in the game (which is good, IMHO).


14) Immortals have lost their T5 (down to T4), but keep their 3+ save. However, their points cost has dropped to 17 pts a model, which is an 11 point drop (more than 1/3 a drop from the previous cost of 28 pts)!


15) All units in the army benefit from the new WBB rule, not just the units that were formerly classified as 'Necrons' in the current codex (even Scarabs!). So although you're only getting a 5+ save in many cases, you're still getting it on some of the more expensive stuff in the army as well (and there are some pricey new units to counterbalance the relatively cheap Warriors and Immortals). Also the vehicle that can add models back into the unit is also able to use this ability on any unit.


15) Rez Orb is still in the game and boosts the new WBB rule to a 4+ instead of a 5+, but only affects the unit it is in. I have a strong suspicion that this is an upgrade that Crypteks can take (I'll confirm if I find out), so I'd imagine you can get quite a few units in the game getting the 4+ bonus save if you want to pay the points to take them for your Crypteks and then split those Crypteks off to lead units.


16) Veil of Darkness is now definitely something Crypteks can take (so you can have a bunch of 'em in the army), but it no longer allows a unit to be pulled out of combat (and neither does the Monolith), except in the case of the Veil carried by one of the named Lords.


17) In the new fluff it sounds like the C'Tan were mainly killed off by the Necrons (or something like that), so the C'Tan that you field in the game are just remaining shards of their power. They're naturally still a really mean Monstrous Creature who rocks in combat, but you can also purchase a bunch of different abilities. These abilities are in line with a lot of the things we've seen in the last few codexes, things like: messing around with Deep Striking enemy units, making enemies moving through terrain differently, and allowing the Necron player to change some of his deployment, etc. So it sounds like you have a lot of different options with the C'Tan that really mess with the enemy army and/or supplement your own. And they are not one per army (so you can have 3 if you want to use up all your Elites on them, although it sounds like the other Elites choices are pretty awesome as well).


18) Some of those six new vehicles include flyers (not sure how many), which can move at cruising speed and fire all their weapons.


19) Besides a few units that are Fearless (Wraiths, Tomb Spyders and Scarabs), the army doesn't have any sort of blanket immunity to morale. They are still Ld10, but obviously we know that still leaves them very vulnerable to being run down in combat, and it looks like that will remain a big Achilles heel.


20) Scarabs sound great. They are cheap, have the new WBB rule, move like beasts and have an ability that erodes enemy armor when they get into combat with it. Any non-vehicle model they wound, but don't kill, has its armor save turned to a dash (i.e. nothing) for the rest of the game. If they hit a vehicle, on a 4+ the vehicle loses a point of armor value on ALL facings, and if any facing is reduced to zero, then the vehicle is destroyed (I'm not sure if this ability kicks in for each hit they get on the vehicle, or just once no matter how many hits they cause). There are some items in the army that also have a similar ability to erode armor, including one of the C'Tan powers.

So it sounds like Scarabs may play a major role in most Necron armies!


21) Overall, CC is definitely still the weak point of the army, but it looks like they've got a lot of different places they can take special rules to slow down or screw with approaching enemy, including some of the C'Tan powers, but also some of the different gear they can take. But they also have some different potential counter-assault units, which mainly come out of the Elites section (besides the new Walker, the C'Tan and the flayed ones in Elites there are 3 OTHER brand new units in there as well, for a grand total of 6 Elites choices). The Flayed ones are, being consistent, cheaper than they were and now have 3 Attacks base (but their save is now 4+ as with standard Warriors). One of the other new Elite units is also CC oriented, but is very pricey points wise (but is S5/T5/3+save). This unit can wield a Warscythe, but they are not called Pariahs (no idea if that's what Pariahs have 'turned into' or not).

Another new Elites choice is a sniper style unit that can Deep Strike into play normally or it can choose to immediately Deep Strike immediately after the opponent brings an enemy unit on from Reserves, and they have some nasty additional damage ability against one nominated unit...obviously we need more info to know how useful this will really be, but the concept of countering an opponent's Reserve deployment immediately sounds interesting at least.

The last new Elites choice is an Elite Jump Infantry unit with very close range shooting and some decent CC ability (and are also S5/T5/3+save).


22) Fast Attack has 4 choices...Wraiths, Tomb Blades (jetbikes), Scarabs & Destroyers.
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In the Elites section there is a big new walker. It has a heat ray
War of the Worlds anyone? :lol:

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Ja se toplo nadam da je 80% ovih rumora :

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In the new fluff it sounds like the C'Tan were mainly killed off by the Necrons (or something like that), so the C'Tan that you field in the game are just remaining shards of their power.
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Nije da je ovo rumor, ali ove figure su bas, bas dobre. :D

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Brate bas su losi modeli, ja bih sve ovo zabranio. Nista to ne valja.

















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Ajde dosta, ljudi. Dule danas zamalo da dozivi fras u HS kada sam mu pokazao nove modele. :lol:
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So yeah, who wants to hear about the new jump infantry? Well to bad, I rolled up C’tan. Shall I start with the part that will freak people out? The C’Tan done got overthrown by the Necrons, they are the slaves. It’s actually pretty cool when everyone is done clinching their bums. The shards of those gods serve as weapons of war in service of the Necron Empire. Also, they might not all be dead, so you know, these are just the ones the Necrons dominated.

So, they start off at a bit under 200 points, their stats are more or less the same as before. They have everything a monstrous creature needs (Eternal Warrior, Fearless) and there are nearly a dozen options for them to take. You can use those points to create the C’Tan you’re used to seeing, or you can mix and match as you see fit. Who knows what god your particular Shard came from! The abilities range from 10 to 50 points, so I’ll tackle them in some random and useless order.

First is the ability to decay vehicles and armour like some other Necron units. Considering the power of a monstrous creature against both armour saves and vehicles, this one isn’t so hot, but it is cheap.

I often wish I could look at someone and kill them. Like you, the person reading this right now. Well that’s how this gaze works as well. Slap the large blast down on top of the C’tan and you hit everything but the C’tan with a str 3 hit, no armour allowed. Then, if you kill at least one dudemans you get a wound back.

The classic Illusion power of the deceiver still allows you to redeploy 1d3 units after scouts moves. I like that one a lot. Lets you deploy first, put a big line of 20 warriors up front, shoves the enemy back… then BAM, they back with the phalanx.

Some god’s really like fire, and can make any flame/fire/heat/warm/dutch oven weapons explode like plasma weapons. It’s particularly good against all the close range melta that put wounds on a C’tan.

Two shooting attacks aren’t bad at all, and the C’tan can take a large blast or an assault 8, both at strength 4. It gets the job done and lets them effect the battle field before they can assault. A thirds one is a bit bigger, clocking in at lascannon stats at half the range.

Another neat trick its jabbing with the world, causing everything within assault distance of the C’Tan to test dangerous terrain, or to mishap more often on deep strike. It’s a clever way to put some wounds on a horde.

Kick up some dust and you get assault and defensive grenades, as well as stealth. It may not sound that useful, but defensive grenades really slow down the “loads of attacks” approach to killing a C’tan, and stealth is better than you think, considering that a 4+ invulnerable isn’t better than most cover… but a 3+ cover (when it happens) is nice. Oh, and Monoliths are big enough to block.

Like monsters that mess with temporal anomalies? Then look no further. Rip em up with C’tan, if they fail a single initiative test BAM, no saves of any kind… one model of your choice is just gone (in the assault). Say goodbye to that pesky warboss or nidzilla monster.

Last, but not least, or maybe least. No this one is awesome. How about the whole battlefield is difficult and dangerous terrain? Yeah… yeah I like that one too. Makes the C’tan a pretty big target though.

So all in all, if you took every ability, you’d be dropping 505 points on a single C’tan. Obviously that would be silly, but if you accept a Land Raider level price tag you can get a powerful monster that really shapes your battle plans. Or better yet… 3.
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Eto, cak ni mrtvi, bezdusni roboti nisu imuni na revolucionarne ideje i bunt. :mrgreen: Slava nekronskome narodu! Ziveo nekronski revolucionarni komitet! Da nam zivi gauss! Nisam ih dzaba sve farbao u crveno. :lol:
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PeraNekron wrote:...Nisam ih dzaba sve farbao u crveno. :lol:
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Iskonvertovacu lorda sa sve brcinama i bannerom. :mrgreen:
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Novi codex za sestre u sledecem white dwarfu?

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"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.

"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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