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Re: Jos Rumora!
Ako je limited, i u kutiji dobijes samo ono... pa ne znam bas, zaista jeste detaljan ali ne opravdava cenu.
Za kratere sam i ocekivao oko 20ak funti, samo me zanima tacno koliko su to "modularni", tj sta sve moze da se mandrlja na njima. I koliko su veliki.
@pera:
vec postovah sliku, vidi gore moj post :P
Za kratere sam i ocekivao oko 20ak funti, samo me zanima tacno koliko su to "modularni", tj sta sve moze da se mandrlja na njima. I koliko su veliki.
@pera:
vec postovah sliku, vidi gore moj post :P
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Erhm... definitivno je onaj teren limited run, samo 1000 primeraka, i ceo je od resina >.> well crap.
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Lol, kad pre? nisu ga ni okacili... epic
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHA! epic
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Imperial Guard Week 1 Releases
Prices
March 29th for Preorder
April 5th Streetdate
Taurox/Taurox Prime APC : $48 (1 vehicle)
Scions: $35 (5 models)
Rules
Scions (5 models): WS3 BS4 S3 T3
Hotshot Lasguns, Carapace
Squad upgrades: Plasma, Melta, Hotshot Volleyguns
Deep Strike, Move through Cover
Dedicated Transport: Chimera, Taurox, Taurox Prime
70pts
Scions Command Squad (5 models): WS3 BS4 S3 T3
Hotshot Lasguns, Carapace
Squad upgrades: Plasma, Melta, Hotshot Volleyguns
Deep Strike, Move through Cover
Medic, Vox, Banner Upgrades
Squad leader (Tempestor): Ld:9 with 18" Ld bubble. Can issue 1 order.
Dedicated Transport: Chimera, Taurox, Taurox Prime
85pts
Taurox
AV: 11/10/10
Reroll Difficult Terrain tests
Transport Capacity: 10
Autocannon
50pts
Taurox Prime
AV: 11/10/10
Reroll Difficult Terrain tests
Transport Capacity: 10
Autocannon
Choice of: Taurox Battle Cannon (S7 AP4, Blast)
Taurox Gatling Cannon (S4 AP-- Heavy10) +10pts
Taurox Missile Launcher (Cyclone clone) +20pts
80pts
Prices
March 29th for Preorder
April 5th Streetdate
Taurox/Taurox Prime APC : $48 (1 vehicle)
Scions: $35 (5 models)
Rules
Scions (5 models): WS3 BS4 S3 T3
Hotshot Lasguns, Carapace
Squad upgrades: Plasma, Melta, Hotshot Volleyguns
Deep Strike, Move through Cover
Dedicated Transport: Chimera, Taurox, Taurox Prime
70pts
Scions Command Squad (5 models): WS3 BS4 S3 T3
Hotshot Lasguns, Carapace
Squad upgrades: Plasma, Melta, Hotshot Volleyguns
Deep Strike, Move through Cover
Medic, Vox, Banner Upgrades
Squad leader (Tempestor): Ld:9 with 18" Ld bubble. Can issue 1 order.
Dedicated Transport: Chimera, Taurox, Taurox Prime
85pts
Taurox
AV: 11/10/10
Reroll Difficult Terrain tests
Transport Capacity: 10
Autocannon
50pts
Taurox Prime
AV: 11/10/10
Reroll Difficult Terrain tests
Transport Capacity: 10
Autocannon
Choice of: Taurox Battle Cannon (S7 AP4, Blast)
Taurox Gatling Cannon (S4 AP-- Heavy10) +10pts
Taurox Missile Launcher (Cyclone clone) +20pts
80pts
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Re: Jos Rumora!
http://www.talkwargaming.com/2014/03/le ... estus.html
Neke slicice, malo flufa, GW brkovi su opet u modi fazon i slicno.
Neke slicice, malo flufa, GW brkovi su opet u modi fazon i slicno.
U jednog Bocu, mi verujemo!
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Re: Jos Rumora!
Hej, ne stavljaj mi reci u usta, o Milinovicu :P Nisam ja to rekao :P
Now, back on topic:
Hah, av11, vidim da ce himera biti veoma koriscena jos uvek xD Mada oprema i cena zvuce zanimljivo, tj "zanimljivo" kada se uzme u obzir da rhino kosta 35. Sad da vidmo sta ce jos izaci za gardu Da, i pozicija autocannona na ovim vozilima na slici je malo cudna, mocice da puca samo pravo i to je to xD
Now, back on topic:
Hah, av11, vidim da ce himera biti veoma koriscena jos uvek xD Mada oprema i cena zvuce zanimljivo, tj "zanimljivo" kada se uzme u obzir da rhino kosta 35. Sad da vidmo sta ce jos izaci za gardu Da, i pozicija autocannona na ovim vozilima na slici je malo cudna, mocice da puca samo pravo i to je to xD
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http://millests.blogspot.com/2014/03/im ... l?spref=fb
Jos slika sa novim kodeksom koji izlazi uz gardu.
Jos slika sa novim kodeksom koji izlazi uz gardu.
U jednog Bocu, mi verujemo!
Re: Jos Rumora!
Jel ovo znaci da ce ona cudna vozila pripadati plavim gardistima? Msm, posto vidim da se samo uz te cike, sa naslovne kodeksa, pojavljuju ta vozila. Pretpostavljam da je to neki ogranak Garde i da su zamislili da ce moci da se "obicni" gardisti ally-uju sa njima...
"MISSION SUCCESSFUL! Once again, I...Cato Sicarius..."
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Bogme ne, izgleda da moze i obicna garda, vidi slike iz drugog linka koji je Histericni ostavio. Ima jedna bas u Cadia bojama.
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Plave cike su zapravo stari stormtruperi i ova druga knjizica je je njihov kodeks.
U jednog Bocu, mi verujemo!
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Forgeworld Knights:
Knight Lancer:
Editovacu post kako budem nalazio druge, valjda ce biti drugih, FW open day je nadam se da ce biti jos slika
Knight Lancer:
Editovacu post kako budem nalazio druge, valjda ce biti drugih, FW open day je nadam se da ce biti jos slika
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Re: Jos Rumora!
Nisam ocekivao da cu ovo ikada reci ali mama (GW) je ovog puta bolja od kcerke (FW).
U jednog Bocu, mi verujemo!
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Re: Jos Rumora!
e vidi warjack :D
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Re: Jos Rumora!
To su sve delovi istog cuda? majko mila ko je to sanjao vlazne snove sa xenomorphima, It-om i tiranidima pa je sculptovao ovo?
in the meantime, knight titan size comparison:
in the meantime, knight titan size comparison:
Re: Jos Rumora!
Novi Orderi za Astra Militarum:
Pa Hydra AA Tank
I drugar na Hydra-u, Vyvern:
Novi, stari Box 10 gardista sas transportom, prikladno nazvan Cadian Armoured Fist:
I malo svakojakih čuvara Cadian Gate-a...
Pa Hydra AA Tank
I drugar na Hydra-u, Vyvern:
Novi, stari Box 10 gardista sas transportom, prikladno nazvan Cadian Armoured Fist:
I malo svakojakih čuvara Cadian Gate-a...
Re: Jos Rumora!
Ovo zapravo i nije rumor...
U krusejd listama u Horus Heresy Extermination knjizi, Forge World, daje predlog za alternativna pravila za D oružja...
U krusejd listama u Horus Heresy Extermination knjizi, Forge World, daje predlog za alternativna pravila za D oružja...
Zvuči prilično OK za standardne bitke..."Optional Age of Darkness Rule Destroyer Weapons."
In Age of Darkness battles, players may opt to reduce the power of Destroyer (Strength D) weapons by introducing a random element to moderate their effect on play in smaller games. If doing so, it should be agreed upon by all parties openly before play begins. If this option is chosen, use the following amended rules for Destroyer Weapons:
- Destroyer weapons count as being Strength 10 and have the Instant Death, Sunder and Ignores Cover special rules. In addition, successful invulnerable saves taken against hits from Destroyer Weapons must be re-rolled.
-Each unsaved wound from a destroyer weapon inflicts d3+1 wounds. Each penetrating hit from a destroyer weapon causes d3+1 hull points / rolls once on the appropriate vehicle damage chart.
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malecki preview
leman rus tank commander: HQ choice, BS 4
moze da se uzme sa jedinicom leman rusova, od kojih onda ne moze da se odvoji
na pocetku shooting faze baca 2d6 i ako baci 9 ili manje bira:
1. full throttle
ide flat out 6+d6 iako je havy
2. gunners, kill on sight
odma puca. komandir puca prvi. Posle toga ostatak jedinice mora da puca na neku drugu metu, koja ne moze da bude posada vozila koje je ubio komandir
3. strike and shroud
moraju da pucaju, posle toga moraju svi da iskoriste smoke launcher
leman rus tank commander: HQ choice, BS 4
moze da se uzme sa jedinicom leman rusova, od kojih onda ne moze da se odvoji
na pocetku shooting faze baca 2d6 i ako baci 9 ili manje bira:
1. full throttle
ide flat out 6+d6 iako je havy
2. gunners, kill on sight
odma puca. komandir puca prvi. Posle toga ostatak jedinice mora da puca na neku drugu metu, koja ne moze da bude posada vozila koje je ubio komandir
3. strike and shroud
moraju da pucaju, posle toga moraju svi da iskoriste smoke launcher
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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Pask ima ordere pa plus:
Pask's tank can reroll to penetrate armours
Depending on the veichle he's on
1. when shooting with a heavy cannon, a heavy cannon vanquisher, a siege cannon demolisher or a nova cannon eradicator can reroll to hit
2. has rending when uses an exterminator or a punisher
3. executioner can use an alternative profile: 36" str7 ap2 heavy1, large blast, blind, gets hot
Pask's tank can reroll to penetrate armours
Depending on the veichle he's on
1. when shooting with a heavy cannon, a heavy cannon vanquisher, a siege cannon demolisher or a nova cannon eradicator can reroll to hit
2. has rending when uses an exterminator or a punisher
3. executioner can use an alternative profile: 36" str7 ap2 heavy1, large blast, blind, gets hot
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
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No 1 wrote: 2. has rending when uses an exterminator or a punisher
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
Re: Jos Rumora!
I onako se do sada vozio u punisheru, tek sad neće izlaziti iz njega.
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
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via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
- 7th 40k edition is only a minor update
- 40k run is part of the movement phase
- assault distance is not influenced by terrain, but gives minus two to
initiative
- vector strikes allow armour saves, but deal one to six hits
- 40k uses a percentage system for the army list
- you can bring as many different allies as you want. You can spend a
fourth of your points on allies, but they also count as their normal
category
- you can bring three allies to a game and must choose one
- bikes can strike units in 1” in the movement phase without assaulting
just like chariots, but can attacked back
- fortification and lords of war rules are in, but no profiles
- you have to pass a initiative test to shoot overwatching, get minus three
to ballistic talent
- you can engage new unit after victory in melee, but enemy can shoot
overwatch again
- you can choose to flee if you are charged but can be destroyed
- if you want to run in 12” of enemy you have to pass a leadertest
- vehicles get no cover saves against infantry, only against other vehicles
Re: Jos Rumora!
U narednom periodu, pracenjem market sekcije, moci cemo da utvrdimo ko je skupljao Taue zato sto mu se stvarno svidjaju, a ko zato sto je power player :D. Cenim da ce istovremeno i kupovina eldara (I5) naglo skociti :D.
Jedino sto mi se realno ne svidja jeste sto sada mozes da uzmes vise ally armija. Ali nije da je to bilo neocekivano - to najbolje utice na prodaju.
Jedino sto mi se realno ne svidja jeste sto sada mozes da uzmes vise ally armija. Ali nije da je to bilo neocekivano - to najbolje utice na prodaju.
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: Jos Rumora!
Pa i sad mozes da imas, kao sto smo videli delimicno na Adepticonu- Space Marines/Space Wolves/Inquisition/Legion of the Damned/Imperial Knights i za kraj, bahato- Tau Formacija.
Ako se ne varam, sve to mozes da stavis legalno u jednu listu sada vec.
Ali mi se ovo i dalje cini kao neki long-shot, posto kaze minor update, a onda navodi neke stvari koje dosta menjaju igru.
Ako se ne varam, sve to mozes da stavis legalno u jednu listu sada vec.
Ali mi se ovo i dalje cini kao neki long-shot, posto kaze minor update, a onda navodi neke stvari koje dosta menjaju igru.
"MISSION SUCCESSFUL! Once again, I...Cato Sicarius..."
Re: Jos Rumora!
Nazalost tacno... ako je za utehu, za sada barem ne mogu svi to da rade (osim SM, ne znam da li ima jos neko ko je ally sa inkvizicijom, tauima, legijom, imperial knightovima i jos necim istovremeno). A duboko sam ubedjen da ce po izlasku nove knjige tako nesto moci bas svi (verujem cak i za tiranide da ce nesto da smisle).
Prosto je - to su imali kao sistem u WHFB4ed, pokusali su sada ponovo (delimicno) kroz 40k, pokazalo se kao uspeh za prodaju, i sasvim sam siguran da to vise nikada nece izaci iz GW politike (prodaja je ipak na prvom mestu...).
Prosto je - to su imali kao sistem u WHFB4ed, pokusali su sada ponovo (delimicno) kroz 40k, pokazalo se kao uspeh za prodaju, i sasvim sam siguran da to vise nikada nece izaci iz GW politike (prodaja je ipak na prvom mestu...).
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Re: Jos Rumora!
Jedino što saveznici mogu da uzmu četvrtinu poena i što ćeš verovatno morati da uzmeš određen procenat trupa.
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš nego sedam dana u bijedi.
Re: Jos Rumora!
To bi bila dobra stvar, ali sumnjam da ce biti tih min/max 25% limita. Za min 25% trupa ne verujem zato sto trupere vec svi imaju. Za max 25% ally isto ne verujem, zato sto je 25% ally-a prilicno malo (u smislu: nedovoljno da si vec skupio ~50% druge armije - sto te onda vuce da zavrsis i tu drugu armiju sa skupljanjem).
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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rumori za novi box set
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/04/ ... tails.html
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/04/ ... tails.html
Launch Window - @September
Rules Summary: Updated Mini-rulebook contains FAQs, minor tweaks and clarifications, and much of Stronghold Assault rolled into a new shiny package.
Miniatures included: @70
Armies:
Blood Angels (plastic quick assembly)
- Assault Marine Squad
- Tactical Marine Squad
- Death Company Squad
- Captain (kitted out for assault)
- Chaplain
- Sanguinary Priest (limited edition, similar to the Dark Vengeance mini was)
Orks (plastic quick assembly)
- 'Ardboys (full mob)
- Nobs (small squad)
- Warboss
- Big Mek
- Ork themed fortification
This was described as simply an updated Warhammer 40,000 Starter Set and specifically "NOT 7th Edition."
Re: Jos Rumora!
Imate novi AM codex na kickass torentu.
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
Emperor of mankind – on the Creation of the Space Marines.
"By reason. By truth. I have learned how your hearts and minds function. With that lore, I brought peace to this culture."
"--At the cost of freedom."
"Peace reigns, as I reign. I wouldn't expect your to understand. You are a little man, with little dreams."
"--You've ushered in the peace of the graveyard. Peace, at the cost of surrendering all choice, all freedom. The city lies in terror, forced to live by the standards you place upon our shoulder."
"Yes...yes."
"--But every sin...is punished, but punished by death, no matter the crime. No matter the scale of the sin. The people of the city live in silence, lest a single word earn them death for speaking out against you."
"Yes. Listen. Listen to the sound of raw silence. Is it not serene?"
- Night Haunter addressing a gathering of Nostraman nobles
"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
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Drugi "web only" marinac:
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sifru sa kojom mozete da kupite jednog (i samo jednog) ovog dobijete u paketu sa prvim "web only" marincom. I opet scabbard sa lobanjama.