Rules for WARMACHINE and HORDES

[deka]

The rules for WARMACHINE and HORDES are now free!

http://privateerpress.com/the-rules-are-free

[Knight]

C,c,c...
Knocked down models CAN be pushed around!
http://privateerpressforums.com/showthr ... own-models

[Histericni Istoricar]

Moja greska.

[Shunka]

Ja isto bio ubeđen da nema guranja KD modela... Svaki dan naučiš nešto novo!

[Rick]

MK 3 Rules
(so it's stickied)
Prime
Primal

June 2016 Steamroller Rules

[Pendargon]

are the cards still somewhere available except warroom?

[Rick]

A link to a dropbox folder which may or may not be relevant as I don't know what's in it
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more

MK3 Army Builder
Conflict Chamber

[stefaz]

Evo prve erate vec. Bas su ga testirali.

http://files.privateerpress.com/op/erra ... y-1016.pdf

[Pendargon]

naravno, nerfuj Skornu jos dublje, ta Hidra je sigurno dominirala playtestingom

[Rick]

Fairly expected errata - they have stopped the Sloan/eButcher turn 1/round 1 kill conditions and fixed the mistake to gang and flank so they work on knocked down and stationary models. The Seether can now headbutt and Caine's trick shot can't hit the original target. Rhupert can no longer give jacks pathfinder (sorry Moma) and true sight ignores clouds for LOS but not the +2 def they give if you're completely within one (bizarre). The throw gimmick still isn't fixed meaning that open fist jacks and beasts are the best models in the game for setting up assassinations.
I don't think they've doubled their Skorne nerf - more like rubbed salt into the wounds.

[PainBringer]

Pomalo sam razocaran pojavom errata dokumenta svega par nedelja od objavljivanja pravila. Licno, mislim da se onaj PP forum pretvorio u skup pateticnih cmizdravaca, koji vicu "negative play experience" nakon samo jedne lose partije, ili se uzasno plase nekih marginalnih situacija, bez da su odigrali barem dvocifren broj partija. Nisam stekao utisak da su Butcher i Kara Sloan bili neki poseban problem - posebno zato sto (ispravite me ako gresim), onaj ko hoce da pokusa T1 kill mora da ima krajnje specificnu listu, a i protivnik ne sme da zna za trik (a nakon toga, ta fora tesko prolazi). Mislim, ja prvi nisam odigrao ni jednu jedinu MK3 partiju, ali mi ne pada na pamet da dizem dzevu zbog toga sto neka kombinacija na papiru izgleda "strasno" - jer smo se slicnih stvari svi nagledali u raznim drugim sistemima, pa se na kraju nije dogodilo ama bas nista.

[TheSerbianRaven]

Mi u NS igramo vec neko vreme MKIII i super se pokazala, jedino nam skorne igrac pravi Agonizer facu . Kada smo culi za premesure, kontali smo da cemo morati da uvedemo deathclock za svaku partiju jer ce se otegnuti, ali se ispostvilo da je maltene brze, jer su do sada svi svakako pokusavali da mere koristeci kontrolu, sto je duplo sporije islo. Ovo za Ruperta mi je strasno glupo sto se zale, pa u MKII je mogao samo unitu da peva, sada moze unitu/modelu, pa je to ljudima malo. A koji warjack osim menotskog uopste slusa muziku? A sto se Butchera tice, problem bio, problem ost'o, khador OP 100%!

[Knight]

MK3 je golden. Iskustvo na tabli je odlicno, ja sam uspeo da odigram dosta partija i SADA nemam zamerki (mogu da oborim socnu metu i pocistim je flenkujucim sword knightovima :P )
Errata je bila nuzna da bi se ispravile gluposti (tj greske koje nastaju kada plejtesteri igraju tumaceci pravilo na odredjeni nacin ali sama konstrukcija recenice daje prostora za dodatno tumacenje koje nije predvidjeno)
ujedno su usput zatvorili vrata za potencijalni t1 assassination run - u praksi, covek koji saradjuje i postavi se tako da je t1 kill moguc svakako je jedan od onih koji najglasnije kukaju xD

Skorna moze da radi na tabli ali je postala uzasno plitka (premalo dobrih kombinacija - u Skorni vidim dve-mooozda tri liste koje bih poveo na turnir, a zabrinjavajuce je velik broj identicnih modela u svim verzijama) dok Cygnar ima barem 7 odlicnih turnirskih listi koje pritom koriste znacajno razlicite koncepte.
Problem kod Skorne je sto i tih par stvari koje rade samo mozes da kazes da su balansirane tj da covek koji ih igra optimalno ima sansu u partiju, dok Cygnar/Khador/Menoth daju liste od kojih se ocekuje da lako pobede odredjene matchupe.

Sledeca kuknjava na PP forumu: Wymwood ir broekn, ban plz
;p

[Dzon Vejn]

Sta je problem sa wyrmwood-om?

[Knight]

Sta je problem sa wyrmwood-om?

Ako mene pitas - nista nije problem, jako zanimljiv kaster koji ima dobar toolkit tj. moze da se igra protiv svega i svacega .
Ljudi su poceli da kukaju oko njegovog feat turna: Ako nisi spreman za isti, gubis na scenario na licu mesta.
Takodje kukaju oko njegovor spela koji te tera da se odreknes movementa ili akcije - veoma je socan kada protivnik ima low model count.

[Rick]

Guys can we discuss models in another thread and keep this stickied thread just for the rules and errata please.

[stefaz]

Januarska erata.

[Rick]

I cannot see a single change for Skorne. The 4 changes for Everblight are woeful. I think Khador jack prices and Wurmwood are the only significant changes right?
Oh and no more throws on your own models.

[Pendargon]

Skorne is So deep in the gutter, PPS said they are getting entire errata of their own in january, with currently 89 changes, and counting. Fingers crossed, they better not screw this up

[sharpshooter]

Karchev got nerfed, only gives boosted damage on his feat now. Kovnik jo no more gives an additional die to attack, now he gives +2 to hit.

[Rick]

Skorne is So deep in the gutter, PPS said they are getting entire errata of their own in january, with currently 89 changes, and counting. Fingers crossed, they better not screw this up

I am so jealous. I wish Everblight had half an errata. pVayl, pAbby, Saeryn, Rhyas, Saeryn & Rhyas together, Bethayne, Kryssa and eThags are all crying now. pThags and Kallus are just grumbling. Kharchev and Joe are relatively minor changes - you might need to shoot the riflemen in groups of 3 to guarentee hitting def 15 and Kharchev needed several things to tone him down.

[TheSerbianRaven]

Anyone else notice that Bokurs are now also minions who work for all hordes factions? So everyone except protectorate, retribution and convergence.

[Knight]

New errata was good, i'm still waiting to see what they will do with Skorne mess

[Knight]

http://privateerpress.com/community/pri ... r-2-8-2017

[Rick]

And I just printed out the errata after the Skorne update. Dammit!!

All 5 are fine. Pleased with the Winterguard theme force change. Never faced uber Una so can't comment but it sounded ridiculous.

[Rick]

Beta testing rules for SR2017
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qkuglfm08mm6d ... o.pdf?dl=0

[Rick]

Current Theme Force Cards - very convenient!!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ljm1 ... RDT1k/view

[Rick]

Printable card Generator
http://cards.privateerpress.com/

[PfcParatrooper]

Printable card Generator
http://cards.privateerpress.com/

I'm impressed! It's working perfectly! Well done PP!

[stefaz]

Novi steamroller za ovu godinu.
http://privateerpress.com/organized-pla ... ournaments