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1) Kucici nemogu da imaju beastmenski profil, niti da idu u ambush, jer ti general ne nosi brayhorn.
2) exalted sorcerer umire od promaje
3) Obicni haos konjanici bez marka su jedni od najvecih debila za svoje poene koji postoje
4) Za khornove chosene stoji gornja izjava
Bolje ti je da undividede napravish chosenima, a obicnjaci da budu khorne
5) 3x screamera ne rade nista
6) sada primetih da nemas beast jedinicu da sakrijes shamane. Super ideja, ubice ih elfovi pre nego kastuju magiju
7) 6 ds je uvek previse...
Da zakljucim, ovo je jedna, cak bih nazvao, friendly lista. Svaka iole sposobnija armija ce je ugasiti do drugog kruga, tako sto ce ti brutalno pobiti castere. Daleko si od tvog questa za power playem, young padawan...
2) exalted sorcerer umire od promaje
3) Obicni haos konjanici bez marka su jedni od najvecih debila za svoje poene koji postoje
4) Za khornove chosene stoji gornja izjava
Bolje ti je da undividede napravish chosenima, a obicnjaci da budu khorne
5) 3x screamera ne rade nista
6) sada primetih da nemas beast jedinicu da sakrijes shamane. Super ideja, ubice ih elfovi pre nego kastuju magiju
7) 6 ds je uvek previse...
Da zakljucim, ovo je jedna, cak bih nazvao, friendly lista. Svaka iole sposobnija armija ce je ugasiti do drugog kruga, tako sto ce ti brutalno pobiti castere. Daleko si od tvog questa za power playem, young padawan...






- slayer king
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- slayer king
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- Joined: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:24 am
- Location: Zvezdara
Lord of Khorne 340pts.
General
Armour of damnation, Gaze of gods
Flail, shield, horse
Exalted champion of Khorne 203pts.
horse, shield, Great fang
Bray shaban 131pts.
Bray stuff, lore of beast
2x Dispell scroll
Chosen knightes of Khorne 350pts.
5 kom. , muzicar, zastava,
Banner of rage
Knightes of Khorne 240pts.
5kom. ,Zastava, muzicar
2x6 warhounds 72 pts.
7 warhounds 42pts.
Mrauderi na magarcima 81pts.
5kom., flail, muzicar
Chariot of Khorne 150pts.
Chariot of Khorne 150pts.
Dragon ogres 237pts.
3 kom. Great weapon, light armour
Furies 120 pts.
8 kom.
Furies 120pts.
8 kom.
2236pts.
9 DD
3 PD
Eto, posto mi sa magijom neide vratih se ja Khornu.Mislio sam lorda da stavim na zmaja ali me mrzi da mu kupujem dzina i da se bakcem sa takvim zaj3bancijama.Nego jos jedna stvar , Pendragon mi je rekao da u Khornovoj armiji moze mage ,a meni se cini da sam procitao da nemoze pa me zanima kako tacno glasi to pravilo.........
P.S. Nadam se da lista valja bar malo
General
Armour of damnation, Gaze of gods
Flail, shield, horse
Exalted champion of Khorne 203pts.
horse, shield, Great fang
Bray shaban 131pts.
Bray stuff, lore of beast
2x Dispell scroll
Chosen knightes of Khorne 350pts.
5 kom. , muzicar, zastava,
Banner of rage
Knightes of Khorne 240pts.
5kom. ,Zastava, muzicar
2x6 warhounds 72 pts.
7 warhounds 42pts.
Mrauderi na magarcima 81pts.
5kom., flail, muzicar
Chariot of Khorne 150pts.
Chariot of Khorne 150pts.
Dragon ogres 237pts.
3 kom. Great weapon, light armour
Furies 120 pts.
8 kom.
Furies 120pts.
8 kom.
2236pts.
9 DD
3 PD
Eto, posto mi sa magijom neide vratih se ja Khornu.Mislio sam lorda da stavim na zmaja ali me mrzi da mu kupujem dzina i da se bakcem sa takvim zaj3bancijama.Nego jos jedna stvar , Pendragon mi je rekao da u Khornovoj armiji moze mage ,a meni se cini da sam procitao da nemoze pa me zanima kako tacno glasi to pravilo.........
P.S. Nadam se da lista valja bar malo


opsidiannight wrote:Čitaj moje postove, šećeru.
Da zanemarim to sto lista nista nece uraiditi... pre svega je nelegalna jer su furije 0-1
.... A kako bi bilo da ti malo procitas pravila pre nego sto napravis jos genijalnih listi
?


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Prvo treba ti jos jedan karakter, ili recimo demon prince ili exalted demon umesto jednog od karaktera. Ogrovi su jos jedna preskupa jedinica u ionako preskupoj armiji (sto se tice broja modela). Modela uopste ima toliko malo, da ce ih skoro svaka shooting ili magic armija odstreliti u dva-tri kruga.
Maga mozes da vodis, ali mora da bude undivided
Maga mozes da vodis, ali mora da bude undivided
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
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E pa posto sam konacno cituckao knjigu utvrdio sam da ima krajnje zanimljivih stvari......znaci izbacim jos i kociju i dobijem Exalteda koji nosi Soul hunger i Spell breaker.Sad dal` da ga uzmem sa 1 ili 2 nivoom maga , posto ako bude 1 tu moze i da udje neka Beastmanska kocija.

opsidiannight wrote:Čitaj moje postove, šećeru.
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Kako stoje patuljci na novim listama, mogu li sta pobjediti? I molim komentare za ovu listu.
1 Dwarf Lord @ 268 Pts
General; Gromril Armour; Shield
Runic Weapon [50]
Master Rune of Alaric the Mad
Runic Talisman [45]
Master Rune of Spite
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
1 Runesmith @ 149 Pts
Great Weapon; Gromril Armour
Rune of spellbreking x3 {50}
1 Master Engineer @ 124 Pts ide za 1 top
Great Weapon; Gromril Armour
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
Runic Weapon [25]
Rune of Fury
1 Master Engineer @ 130 Pts ide za 2 top
Dwarf Handgun; Gromril Armour
Runic Weapon [25]
Rune of Fury
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
9 Longbeards @ 145 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Greatbeard @ [10] Pts
9 Longbeards @ 145 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Greatbeard @ [10] Pts
9 Warriors @ 115 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Warriors @ 115 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Thunderers @ 175 Pts
Dwarf Handgun; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Thunderers @ 175 Pts
Dwarf Handgun; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Ironbreakers @ 160 Pts
Gromril Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Ironbeard @ [12] Pts
9 Troll Slayers @ 143 Pts
Standard; Musician
1 Giant Slayer @ [26] Pts
1 Cannon @ 105 Pts
Engineer
1 Engineer @ [15] Pts
Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
1 Cannon @ 105 Pts
Engineer
1 Engineer @ [15] Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
1 Organ Gun @ 120 Pts
Misfire Chart
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
Dispel Pool: 5
Casting Pool: 2
Models in Army: 98
Total Army Cost: 2174
Kod patuljaka mislim da je artiljerija kljucna i ako ona zakaze pisi propalo
zato mislim da ce ona dva izinjera dobro koristiti.
1 Dwarf Lord @ 268 Pts
General; Gromril Armour; Shield
Runic Weapon [50]
Master Rune of Alaric the Mad
Runic Talisman [45]
Master Rune of Spite
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
1 Runesmith @ 149 Pts
Great Weapon; Gromril Armour
Rune of spellbreking x3 {50}
1 Master Engineer @ 124 Pts ide za 1 top
Great Weapon; Gromril Armour
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
Runic Weapon [25]
Rune of Fury
1 Master Engineer @ 130 Pts ide za 2 top
Dwarf Handgun; Gromril Armour
Runic Weapon [25]
Rune of Fury
Runic Armour [25]
Rune of Resistance
9 Longbeards @ 145 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Greatbeard @ [10] Pts
9 Longbeards @ 145 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Greatbeard @ [10] Pts
9 Warriors @ 115 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Warriors @ 115 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Thunderers @ 175 Pts
Dwarf Handgun; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Thunderers @ 175 Pts
Dwarf Handgun; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Veteran @ [10] Pts
9 Ironbreakers @ 160 Pts
Gromril Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Ironbeard @ [12] Pts
9 Troll Slayers @ 143 Pts
Standard; Musician
1 Giant Slayer @ [26] Pts
1 Cannon @ 105 Pts
Engineer
1 Engineer @ [15] Pts
Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
1 Cannon @ 105 Pts
Engineer
1 Engineer @ [15] Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
1 Organ Gun @ 120 Pts
Misfire Chart
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Light Armour
Dispel Pool: 5
Casting Pool: 2
Models in Army: 98
Total Army Cost: 2174
Kod patuljaka mislim da je artiljerija kljucna i ako ona zakaze pisi propalo
zato mislim da ce ona dva izinjera dobro koristiti.
Last edited by HIPERION on Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sta mislite o mojoj orkovsoj listi:
Gorbad Ironclaw 310 pts.
Black Orck Big Boss 139 pts.
H. Armor, Enchanced Shield +2 As, Bigged's Kickin Boots +1 At.
Orc Shaman 2 Lv. 150 pts.
2 x Dispel Scroll
Orc Shaman on boar 2 Lv. 166 pts.
2x Dispel Scroll
2x Orc Boyz Big 'Uns (20) sa full komandom i Magic banerima (2 x 286 pts.)
25 Savage Orc Big 'Uns sa full komandom 380 pts.
20 Night Goblina sa komandom, short bow i 3 fanatika 155 pts.
20 Night Goblina sa komandom, koplja i stitovi i 3 fanatika 175 pts.
2x Spear Chukka 2x 35 pts.
Rock Lobber 70 pts.
Doom Diver 80 pts.
Sve skupa 2272 pts. Ajde sada rapalite sa savetima
Gorbad Ironclaw 310 pts.
Black Orck Big Boss 139 pts.
H. Armor, Enchanced Shield +2 As, Bigged's Kickin Boots +1 At.
Orc Shaman 2 Lv. 150 pts.
2 x Dispel Scroll
Orc Shaman on boar 2 Lv. 166 pts.
2x Dispel Scroll
2x Orc Boyz Big 'Uns (20) sa full komandom i Magic banerima (2 x 286 pts.)
25 Savage Orc Big 'Uns sa full komandom 380 pts.
20 Night Goblina sa komandom, short bow i 3 fanatika 155 pts.
20 Night Goblina sa komandom, koplja i stitovi i 3 fanatika 175 pts.
2x Spear Chukka 2x 35 pts.
Rock Lobber 70 pts.
Doom Diver 80 pts.
Sve skupa 2272 pts. Ajde sada rapalite sa savetima

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HIPERION:Cini mi se da ti svi heroji osim runesmitha nose isti magic armour.
SRBENDA:Ne znam kako i gde ces da igras sa tih 2272pt
,a za black orc big bos,ako se nesto nije promenilo novom knjigom,i dalje zauzima 2 hero slota,pa si u visku sa istim.
SRBENDA:Ne znam kako i gde ces da igras sa tih 2272pt

audaces fortuna iuvat
Shunka wrote:Upravo sam se setio da sam ja mod ovde!
Aman bre ljudi ne preterujte u zajebavanju coveka!
Kod nas se ne igra sa specijalnim karakterima, tako da ti je gorbad ironclaw nelegalan....
Orc shaman ti ne treba na svinji, bezveze dajes poene...
Rock lobber je mnogo losiji od doom divera, a kosta isto.... bolje uzmi jos jedan doom diver...
Izbaci jednoj jedinici big un pravilo, kako bi mogao u obe da imas ~30 modela.... a ako ostane jos viska (a hoce), povecaj jos night gobline da bi sto manje panika prolazili....
Sveukupno, cini mi se da imas premalo jedinica (svega 4)....
Mislim da su oni squig-ovi sada must have....
edit:
@HIPERION:
Jedinice od po 10 modela ti ne rade nista... trebas da imas 20+ modela zbog bonusa na rankove....
Dwarfovi bez anvila tesko da ce uraditi nesto na turniru, jer si VRLO ogranicen svojim kretanjem... sa anvilom vec postajes ozbiljan....
Procitaj pravila za sastavljanje runa, jer su ti nelegalne...
Nisam siguran da inzenjer sada ima svrhu.... za te poene mozes da ubacis jos jednu masinu ili da pojacas neku jedinicu...
Orc shaman ti ne treba na svinji, bezveze dajes poene...
Rock lobber je mnogo losiji od doom divera, a kosta isto.... bolje uzmi jos jedan doom diver...
Izbaci jednoj jedinici big un pravilo, kako bi mogao u obe da imas ~30 modela.... a ako ostane jos viska (a hoce), povecaj jos night gobline da bi sto manje panika prolazili....
Sveukupno, cini mi se da imas premalo jedinica (svega 4)....
Mislim da su oni squig-ovi sada must have....
edit:
@HIPERION:
Jedinice od po 10 modela ti ne rade nista... trebas da imas 20+ modela zbog bonusa na rankove....
Dwarfovi bez anvila tesko da ce uraditi nesto na turniru, jer si VRLO ogranicen svojim kretanjem... sa anvilom vec postajes ozbiljan....
Procitaj pravila za sastavljanje runa, jer su ti nelegalne...
Nisam siguran da inzenjer sada ima svrhu.... za te poene mozes da ubacis jos jednu masinu ili da pojacas neku jedinicu...
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Da ispravim... jedinice koje biju! ne rade nista, shooteri rade iako ih je 10.@HIPERION:
Jedinice od po 10 modela ti ne rade nista... trebas da imas 20+ modela zbog bonusa na rankove....
Pamti, pa vrati...
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Pazi, vidi, kockica ima 6 strana, a terminator gine samo na 1... by Chomie
Da, da.... to sam i mislioMegabaja wrote:Da ispravim... jedinice koje biju! ne rade nista, shooteri rade iako ih je 10.@HIPERION:
Jedinice od po 10 modela ti ne rade nista... trebas da imas 20+ modela zbog bonusa na rankove....


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Orkovski spec. karakteri su sada dozvoljeni i to samo 4 koja se nalaze u novoj Army Book. Tu informaciju su mi povrdili Dule i Mojsije iz HS. Da je bolji doom diver to i sam znam ali nema ga 100 godina da se kupi pa sam iz ocaja uzeo Rock Lobber koji se pokazao skoro isto koristan. Jedinica imam 5 tj. 2x Orc B'U, 2x NG i 1 Savage B'U. probao sam i tu kombinaciju koju si mi predlozio ali mi se ipak poakzalo da 3 jedinice B'U su zlo koje se krece (Ws 4, St 4/5) pogotovo sto svi imaju po 2 chope. Shaman na svinji mi se lepo pokazao zbog njegove mobilnosti , lako mogu prevaliti 14" i pobeci ili se pribliziti protivniku kojeg bi trebao castovati. Squig-ovi su definitivno zanimljivi ali radije bih sa njima ili protiv njih odigrao neku partiju da vidim kao rade uzivo 

Ja koliko znam, na zadnjem HS (a i ostalim) turniru (a sto je standard kod nas) orkovski spec. karakteri NISU bili dozvoljeni... Razlog: ako bi dozvolio njihove spec. karaktere, morao bi da dozvolis i ostalima sve karaktere za koje ne treba opponents approval, a to bi bilo zlo
.... Tako da je to pitanje jos sveze... Ne zaboravi da ti shaman ne ide 14" ako je blizu neprijatelj, jer ne moze da marsira
....
U svakom slucaju, da bi ti orkovi bili zlo mora da ih ima 30+ (nemas armor i lako te napucaju, a ako te skinu sa 20 na deset modela, onda vise nisu zlo, a ako te skinu sa 30 na 20 modela, i dalje su zlo
.... zato sam ti i predlozio da pokusas da nabijes jos modela
....). A nisam bio primetio da imas dve jedinice big una.... ja bih jednu skinuo a povecao druge dve... i za ostatak poena dokupio jos nesto... mozda bih cak i skinuo rock lobber i za sve te pare viska uzeo squig-ove
...
Naravno tvoja je zadnja
.... ja ti samo predlazem sta mislim da bi ti bolje radilo za turnire (a to nikako ne mora da znaci da sam ja u pravu
)....
P.S.: Ja ne znam da li ces naci nekoga ko ce hteti da se igra protiv tebe ako vodis specijalca, a ne das i njemu da vodi njegovog
....


U svakom slucaju, da bi ti orkovi bili zlo mora da ih ima 30+ (nemas armor i lako te napucaju, a ako te skinu sa 20 na deset modela, onda vise nisu zlo, a ako te skinu sa 30 na 20 modela, i dalje su zlo



Naravno tvoja je zadnja


P.S.: Ja ne znam da li ces naci nekoga ko ce hteti da se igra protiv tebe ako vodis specijalca, a ne das i njemu da vodi njegovog

I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Mislim da bi ti bilo bolje da Crni ork ima onaj 1+ save (a pri tome mu ostaju slobodne ruke i ne mora da ima stit) nego ovo sto si mu dao a posle dodaj u kombinciju sa ward-om i cokulama ako jos uvek postoji i ako je peske dworuka sekira



Josef Quartjin (Enemy Within):
"Zbogom Wittgendorf-e na k...c te nabijem" Sommerzeit 13. 2512.
"Zbogom Wittgendorf-e na k...c te nabijem" Sommerzeit 13. 2512.
Tacno je nema vise armora koji daje Sv 1+ inace bi ga ja rado koristio, a sada black orc je naoruzan do zuba tj. moze da korsiti sta hoce i da menja u toku bitke. Na zadnjem HS turniru jos nije stigla nova Orc army book, a sto se tice spec. karaketra (vise puta sam proveravao tu informaciju i kod ostalih igraca) svedeni su na 5 Grimgor, Gorbad, Azhag,Grom i Skarsnik. Karakteri vise nisu onako suludo jaki kao pre osim Grmgora koji je jos ludji ali moras imati jednicu Black orkova i mora biti sa njima. Sto se tice shamana ne trcim ja nepriajtelju u narucje vec bezim od njega. Hvala na predlogu, veoma si me zainteresovao sa squigovima, imas li neka iskustva sa njima ili protiv njih. Ovu army listu jos nisam koristio u praksi ali kada igram koristim ili 2 kocije ili 2 formacije Orc strelaca umesto navedenog spec. karaktera.
Na zadnjem HS turniru je bila nova O&G knjiga
.... I dule je kopirao ostalima, a neki (medju njima i ja) su uzeli PDF knjigu
...
Moj brat je imao losa iskustva protiv squig-ova
... i protiv nekog od tih specijalnih karaktera koji ima squig-a...
Kirgane, orci ne da nemaju vise 1+ armor, nego nemaju skoro uopste armor
... mislim da imaju cela 2 magic armora
... ali zato magic oruzja ima kol'ko 'oces...


Moj brat je imao losa iskustva protiv squig-ova

Kirgane, orci ne da nemaju vise 1+ armor, nego nemaju skoro uopste armor


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Ima oruzije koje za svakog protivnickog kraktera u 12" daje +1St i +1At kao i magic armor koji daje Sv 6+ i +1T. I meni je Dule dao knjigu i pdf i rekao mi je za spec. karaktere ali ako su stvari promenile moze i bez spec. kar. nema problema. Jos samo ako bi neko od vas mogao da mi objasni kako funkcionisu squigovi tj. sta su Night Goblin Squig Hoppers a sta Night Goblin Squig Herd (nesto sam citao ali nisam bas najbolje sakapirao) :?Kirgan wrote:Da ali imaju +1T za male pare rekose mi sad a to S7 i T5 ili 6 nije za baciti ili koliko imas karaktera toliko + A i S je isto OK![]()
Squig hoppers 15 poena/model
Jedininca skirmishera, imuni na psihologiju i mrze dwarfove. Mozes da uzmes 5-10 modela i to ti je jedinica kao bilo koja druga skirmish. Krecu se 3d6 u compulsory movement-u u pravcu u kome ti kazes i kao nekoga stignu, ulaze u combat kao da su charge-ovali. Mogu da se pridruze samo great squig hopper-u (sampion...) .
Squig herders
Tim squigova i herdera. Jedan tim sadrzi 2 night goblina i 3 squiga i kosta 30 poena. Svo pucanje, impact hitovi... se pogadjaju goblini na 5 i 6. Ako umru svi goblini, jedinica je pobesnela (dodatno objsnjenje sledi). Kupujes koliko god timova zelis, i postavljas modele kako god zelis, tako da formiraju normalnu rank & file jedinicu (kao sto i obicne orkove slazes). Jedinica je imuna na psihologiju i mrzi dwarfove. Karakteri ne mogu da im se pridruze. Krecu se normalno, koristeci svoj MV 4 (znaci opet kao orkovi). Ako jedinica krene da bezi, ili ako na pocetku kruga nema vise herdera, svi u 2d6" piju d6 hitova S5 (znaci jako gadno...), nakon cega se jedinica sklanja sa table i racuna kao mrtva.
Zakljucak: herdovi su mnogo gadni.... pogotovu ako se tu nadju 2, 3 herda.... ako uspes ti da charge-ujes, svaki squig ima 2A S5... a ako vidis da to neces moci, namestis jedinicu tako da kada krene da bezi hvata sto vise protivnickih jedinica u krugu od (okvirno) 7" (prosek na 2d6" - ono sto bacaju u koliko " rade damage). Drugi nacin koriscenja: posto su imuni na psihologiju, mozes da vodis vise malih herd jedinica koje drze ceo jedan bok. Momci idu napred, i neki zapravo i prezive da stignu do neprijatelja... a to ne valja kada se desi.... ako te pusti da ga uhvatis u HtH imas mnogo napada velike snage, a ako te ubije, onda mu svi u (okvirno) 7 inca piju d6 S5 hitova.... sto opet ne valja kada se to desi par puta u partiji....
Dve jedinice od po recimo 4 tima kostaju 240 poena.... to su dve jedinice koje su imune na psihologiju, imaju 3 reda, imaju mnogo napada S5, a ako i poginu, napravice i nepreijatelju neku stetu, pogotovu ako tu ima mnogo jedinica (kao recimo kod skavena i imperije i drugih brojcanih armija), a tebe ce tesko napucati, jer jedinica od 4 tima ima 4*2=8 goblina koje pogadjaju samo na 5 i 6, a onda ih treba i wound-ovati (to ti je otprilike ekvivalent kao da upucavaju jedinicu od 24 modela (jer ce pogoditi svakog treceg goblina, a to je 8*3=24), a ako pogode squiga, nije velika steta, dokle god ostane 5 u prvom redu
.... Po mom misljenju, ovo je veome vredno svojih para 
Jedininca skirmishera, imuni na psihologiju i mrze dwarfove. Mozes da uzmes 5-10 modela i to ti je jedinica kao bilo koja druga skirmish. Krecu se 3d6 u compulsory movement-u u pravcu u kome ti kazes i kao nekoga stignu, ulaze u combat kao da su charge-ovali. Mogu da se pridruze samo great squig hopper-u (sampion...) .
Squig herders
Tim squigova i herdera. Jedan tim sadrzi 2 night goblina i 3 squiga i kosta 30 poena. Svo pucanje, impact hitovi... se pogadjaju goblini na 5 i 6. Ako umru svi goblini, jedinica je pobesnela (dodatno objsnjenje sledi). Kupujes koliko god timova zelis, i postavljas modele kako god zelis, tako da formiraju normalnu rank & file jedinicu (kao sto i obicne orkove slazes). Jedinica je imuna na psihologiju i mrzi dwarfove. Karakteri ne mogu da im se pridruze. Krecu se normalno, koristeci svoj MV 4 (znaci opet kao orkovi). Ako jedinica krene da bezi, ili ako na pocetku kruga nema vise herdera, svi u 2d6" piju d6 hitova S5 (znaci jako gadno...), nakon cega se jedinica sklanja sa table i racuna kao mrtva.
Zakljucak: herdovi su mnogo gadni.... pogotovu ako se tu nadju 2, 3 herda.... ako uspes ti da charge-ujes, svaki squig ima 2A S5... a ako vidis da to neces moci, namestis jedinicu tako da kada krene da bezi hvata sto vise protivnickih jedinica u krugu od (okvirno) 7" (prosek na 2d6" - ono sto bacaju u koliko " rade damage). Drugi nacin koriscenja: posto su imuni na psihologiju, mozes da vodis vise malih herd jedinica koje drze ceo jedan bok. Momci idu napred, i neki zapravo i prezive da stignu do neprijatelja... a to ne valja kada se desi.... ako te pusti da ga uhvatis u HtH imas mnogo napada velike snage, a ako te ubije, onda mu svi u (okvirno) 7 inca piju d6 S5 hitova.... sto opet ne valja kada se to desi par puta u partiji....
Dve jedinice od po recimo 4 tima kostaju 240 poena.... to su dve jedinice koje su imune na psihologiju, imaju 3 reda, imaju mnogo napada S5, a ako i poginu, napravice i nepreijatelju neku stetu, pogotovu ako tu ima mnogo jedinica (kao recimo kod skavena i imperije i drugih brojcanih armija), a tebe ce tesko napucati, jer jedinica od 4 tima ima 4*2=8 goblina koje pogadjaju samo na 5 i 6, a onda ih treba i wound-ovati (to ti je otprilike ekvivalent kao da upucavaju jedinicu od 24 modela (jer ce pogoditi svakog treceg goblina, a to je 8*3=24), a ako pogode squiga, nije velika steta, dokle god ostane 5 u prvom redu


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Pa tako sto udju u combat i izgube ga, i onda ne prodju break test
... Nisu unbreakable, jesu imuni na psihologiju 


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Zavisi kako postavis rank and file jedinicu
... Ako si dovoljno lud da goblina stavis u prvi red umesto squiga, onda da, goblini napadaju
.... U suprotnom, napadaju squig-ovi... Medjutim, ako ti protivnik ubije dovoljno squig-ova, pa ostane recimo samo 4 squiga u jedinici sirokoj 5 modela, onda dolazi i goblin u prvi red...


I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Hmm, trenutno nemam bas vremena da praksom isprobavam turnirske liste koje pravim, pa me zanimaju vasa misljenja o ovoj mojoj listi...
Highborn na Great Eaglu - 301
Bow of Loren
Arcane Bodkins
Enchanted Shield
Glamourweave
Alter Noble - 154
Helm of the Hunt
Hail of Doom Arrow
Branchwraith (mage lvl 1) - 165
Murder of Spites (+D6 Magical and Poisoned S2 napada)
Cluster of Radiants (+1 DD)
Spellsinger - 140
2xDS
Core
2x8 Dryads
3x10 Glade Guard
Special
6 Wild Riders - puna komanda + war banner - 217
8 Wardancers (incl musican)
Rare
2x Treeman
Razmisljao sam da i Treekinove ubacim, ali kako cujem po netu i od nasih igraca, ljudi ne nalaze previse upotrebe za njih jer nisu pokretljivi dovoljno... Eventualno sam razmisljao da promenim ovu jedinicu wild ridera, predstavljaju previse laku metu za odstrel, mada lepo udaraju ako dobiju charge, a glade rideri su sada samo 2 poena jeftiniji od njih, mada ako izbacim recimo jednu jedinicu glade garde mogao bih da izvedem dve jedinice ridera, sto me ostavlja sa istim brojem strelaca, samo sto su ovih 10 daleko korisniji i mobilniji... Ali tu sad nastupa problem da ja nemam 10 ridera... Sve sugestije su dobrodosle...
Highborn na Great Eaglu - 301
Bow of Loren
Arcane Bodkins
Enchanted Shield
Glamourweave
Alter Noble - 154
Helm of the Hunt
Hail of Doom Arrow
Branchwraith (mage lvl 1) - 165
Murder of Spites (+D6 Magical and Poisoned S2 napada)
Cluster of Radiants (+1 DD)
Spellsinger - 140
2xDS
Core
2x8 Dryads
3x10 Glade Guard
Special
6 Wild Riders - puna komanda + war banner - 217
8 Wardancers (incl musican)
Rare
2x Treeman
Razmisljao sam da i Treekinove ubacim, ali kako cujem po netu i od nasih igraca, ljudi ne nalaze previse upotrebe za njih jer nisu pokretljivi dovoljno... Eventualno sam razmisljao da promenim ovu jedinicu wild ridera, predstavljaju previse laku metu za odstrel, mada lepo udaraju ako dobiju charge, a glade rideri su sada samo 2 poena jeftiniji od njih, mada ako izbacim recimo jednu jedinicu glade garde mogao bih da izvedem dve jedinice ridera, sto me ostavlja sa istim brojem strelaca, samo sto su ovih 10 daleko korisniji i mobilniji... Ali tu sad nastupa problem da ja nemam 10 ridera... Sve sugestije su dobrodosle...
There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.
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treekinovi su svakako bolji od wild ridera, ali nisu nesto posebno, pogotovo ne u armiji koja je skirmish. Ako vec hoces da menjas wild ridere, uzmi treekinove, eto.
Po mojim iskustvima (iz ne velikog broja partija) 3x10 archera ne mogu da stanu lepo na tablu, a da budu korisni. Stoga je bolje da imas 2 jedinice archera i dve jedinice po 5 skauta. Wood elfovi su jako krhki, a ti nemas dovoljnu dobru odbranu od magije. Kod njih se preznojavas i za d6 st3 hitova...
Po mojim iskustvima (iz ne velikog broja partija) 3x10 archera ne mogu da stanu lepo na tablu, a da budu korisni. Stoga je bolje da imas 2 jedinice archera i dve jedinice po 5 skauta. Wood elfovi su jako krhki, a ti nemas dovoljnu dobru odbranu od magije. Kod njih se preznojavas i za d6 st3 hitova...
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
Pa da, to je tacno... U svakom slucaju su Treekinovi izdrzljiviji... I to daleko, T5, 4+ AS i 5+ Ward. Barem nece toliko stradati od promaje...
Sto se tice odbrane od magije - primetio sam na turnirima da vojske sada nisu toliko magic heavy koliko i ranije. Pet DP i dva dispel skrola mi se nekako cine dovoljnim, zar nisi i ti imao slican sastav karaktera na poslednjem turniru, joggy? Ne bih trosio hero slot na jos jednog scroll caddy-a, ova branchwraith dodaje 2 DD, a i moze lepo da tuce u CCu... Blah, bilo bi dobro kad bih imao vremena da isprobam u nekoj bici...
Sto se tice odbrane od magije - primetio sam na turnirima da vojske sada nisu toliko magic heavy koliko i ranije. Pet DP i dva dispel skrola mi se nekako cine dovoljnim, zar nisi i ti imao slican sastav karaktera na poslednjem turniru, joggy? Ne bih trosio hero slot na jos jednog scroll caddy-a, ova branchwraith dodaje 2 DD, a i moze lepo da tuce u CCu... Blah, bilo bi dobro kad bih imao vremena da isprobam u nekoj bici...
There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.