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Tako je... a najbolja igra za terapiju od kockica je blood bowl... nakon sto sam polomio !? kockicu (dada, lepo ste procitali... kockica je napukla na par mesta), poceo sam polako da shvatam da oko kockice ne trebam da se nerviram. Nakon toga je moj brat imao jos neko vreme stomacnih tegoba i povisen pritisak (jer se ja nisam nervirao, a on jeste :lol: ), i od onda nema vise nerviranja oko kockica :lol: ... Samo treba dovoljan broj puta baciti 2 keca u blood bowl-u za redom, ili jos gore duple keceve re-roll-ovane u duple keceve, a bogme desavalo se i tri keca re-roll-ovana u tri keca (doduse meni samo dvaput).... posle toga se vise ne nerviras :lol:
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Voleo bih da cujem misljenja o sledecoj listi:
Black orc warboss na wyvern-u sa:
collar of zorga, killing blow, armor of gork, spear shield
shaman dispelator lvl1
goblin big boss na vurcu sa spear shield light armor, one hit wunda, brimstone bauble
black orc boss spear heavy armor, iron back boar, enchanted shield
CORE
2 x night goblins sa 3 fanatica i guzicarem
2 x 25 orcova sa spear, full komanda, jedni su biguns sa bannerom koji daje dodatne kockice za dispell
SPECIAL
8 shukka
RARE
2 gianta
Black orc warboss na wyvern-u sa:
collar of zorga, killing blow, armor of gork, spear shield
shaman dispelator lvl1
goblin big boss na vurcu sa spear shield light armor, one hit wunda, brimstone bauble
black orc boss spear heavy armor, iron back boar, enchanted shield
CORE
2 x night goblins sa 3 fanatica i guzicarem
2 x 25 orcova sa spear, full komanda, jedni su biguns sa bannerom koji daje dodatne kockice za dispell
SPECIAL
8 shukka
RARE
2 gianta
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pendargon
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Pa znas kako, ovaj cika na wyvernu mi deluje pomalo neubedljivo, kao i ovi dzinovi. Mislim da su preveliki point sink i da, u sustini, nigde nece doci i nista nece uraditi. Pazi sad, the touch of cheese, orks by me:
1 Black Orc Warboss @ 220 Pts
General; Choppa
Armour of Gork [50]
Amulet of Protectyness [25]
1 Savage Orc Big Boss @ 109 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Great Weapon; Warpaint
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots [30]
1 Savage Orc Shaman @ 155 Pts
Frenzy; Magic Level 2; Big Waagh; Choppa; Warpaint
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 135 Pts
Magic Level 2; Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
23 Orc Boyz @ 164 Pts
Choppa; Spear; Light Armour; Musician
1 Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Savage Big 'Uns @ 367 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
Nogg's Banner of Butchery [25]
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Savage Boyz @ 246 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 114 Pts
Shield; Musician
2 Fanatic @ [50] Pts
21 Night Goblins @ 142 Pts
Shield; Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Light Armour; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Light Armour; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Casting Pool: 6
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 175
Total Army Cost: 2249
Tadaaaam???
1 Black Orc Warboss @ 220 Pts
General; Choppa
Armour of Gork [50]
Amulet of Protectyness [25]
1 Savage Orc Big Boss @ 109 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Great Weapon; Warpaint
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots [30]
1 Savage Orc Shaman @ 155 Pts
Frenzy; Magic Level 2; Big Waagh; Choppa; Warpaint
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 135 Pts
Magic Level 2; Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
23 Orc Boyz @ 164 Pts
Choppa; Spear; Light Armour; Musician
1 Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Savage Big 'Uns @ 367 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
Nogg's Banner of Butchery [25]
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Savage Boyz @ 246 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 114 Pts
Shield; Musician
2 Fanatic @ [50] Pts
21 Night Goblins @ 142 Pts
Shield; Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Light Armour; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Light Armour; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 40 Pts
Bully
1 Bully @ [5] Pts
Choppa; Light Armour
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
3 Crew @ [0] Pts
Casting Pool: 6
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 175
Total Army Cost: 2249
Tadaaaam???
Jedno pitanjce. Posto se odredjene jedinice Ogrova racunaju ko Psi rata 
da li to znaci da ja mogu u 2250 poena da stavim 6 jedinica LedBelchera koji se ovako racunaju ko Specijalci?
da li to znaci da ja mogu u 2250 poena da stavim 6 jedinica LedBelchera koji se ovako racunaju ko Specijalci?"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
Svaka armija treba da ima nekog terror causera...a taj baja na wyvernu sluzi da umre i u tom procesu skine nekog cinc lorda na zmaju (jer zmaj ne bije, a ovaj ima T6, znaci c. lord ga wounduje na 4+ u najboljem slucaju...)... znaci uglavnom juri zmajeve i ta skupa cuda i treba da pogine u tom procesu. Zatim onaj batica sto eksplodira u slucaju da nesto bitno ostane recimo na 1W, ili eventualno da uzme pola/celog nekog maga u nekoj jedinici necega sto moze da ga prebije... dzinovi su fan elemenat jer se meni mnogo svidjaju modeli... inace i 4 pump wagona i 2 doom divera su bolji i jeftiniji... jedino sto eto u nekoj teoriji dzin moze da odvuce neku paljbu... u teoriji... ima tu nekih woundova a i u drugom krugu su tamo... onaj ork karakter na impact hit svinji sluzi da boostuje charge, i eventualno moze sam da izleti iz jedinice, eventualno...
A ova tvoja tj. Bojanova lista je dosta bolja svakako, ali eto nema dzinove koji se meni svidjaju...
A ova tvoja tj. Bojanova lista je dosta bolja svakako, ali eto nema dzinove koji se meni svidjaju...
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pendargon
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TrueSvaka armija treba da ima nekog terror causera...a taj baja na wyvernu sluzi da umre i u tom procesu skine nekog cinc lorda na zmaju (jer zmaj ne bije, a ovaj ima T6, znaci c. lord ga wounduje na 4+ u najboljem slucaju...)... znaci uglavnom juri zmajeve i ta skupa cuda i treba da pogine u tom procesu. Zatim onaj batica sto eksplodira u slucaju da nesto bitno ostane recimo na 1W, ili eventualno da uzme pola/celog nekog maga u nekoj jedinici necega sto moze da ga prebije... dzinovi su fan elemenat jer se meni mnogo svidjaju modeli... inace i 4 pump wagona i 2 doom divera su bolji i jeftiniji... jedino sto eto u nekoj teoriji dzin moze da odvuce neku paljbu... u teoriji... ima tu nekih woundova a i u drugom krugu su tamo... onaj ork karakter na impact hit svinji sluzi da boostuje charge, i eventualno moze sam da izleti iz jedinice, eventualno...
A ova tvoja tj. Bojanova lista je dosta bolja svakako, ali eto nema dzinove koji se meni svidjaju...
Respect. :P
Iskopo sam ga. Ako se pravi armija ratnih kucica (DoW) onda se jedinice iz ogrovske armije racunaju ko Specijalne.Pendargon wrote:Psi rata, sem za ogrove, kojima su special... Nice try, though
A ako se radi Ogrovska armija oni ne mogu da uzimaju jedinice iz svoje knjige kao DoW. I ovako se svi znaju pa im je glupo da placaju jedni druge. Uradit ce to za hranu. Tako da nista od 6 jedinica LedBelcera
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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bojan
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Glede oracke list:
Dule - Savage Big 'Uns-i NE MOGU vise nositi magicnu zastavu - to je bag u AB-u. Da, to znaci da sam djidao ljude...
Desi se kada ne procitas knjigu... :oops:
Dalje - Nesina lista:
Goblinski heroj na kociji je mnogo bolji nego na vuku - za 48 poena vise dobijes US 5 chariot koji se krece 9/jurisa 18". A kosta kao kikiriki. Napomena - po FAQ-u orkovski/goblinski chariot-i za heroje NE trose special slot pa mozes imati i chariote i 8 chucka.
Fale ti i neki vukojahaci.
Metalna svinja se meni pokazala odlicno - definitivno je zadrzi.
Isprobaj jahace na squigovima.
Dule - Savage Big 'Uns-i NE MOGU vise nositi magicnu zastavu - to je bag u AB-u. Da, to znaci da sam djidao ljude...
Desi se kada ne procitas knjigu... :oops: Dalje - Nesina lista:
Goblinski heroj na kociji je mnogo bolji nego na vuku - za 48 poena vise dobijes US 5 chariot koji se krece 9/jurisa 18". A kosta kao kikiriki. Napomena - po FAQ-u orkovski/goblinski chariot-i za heroje NE trose special slot pa mozes imati i chariote i 8 chucka.
Fale ti i neki vukojahaci.
Metalna svinja se meni pokazala odlicno - definitivno je zadrzi.
Isprobaj jahace na squigovima.
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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Hypodermic
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A zasto nisi jednostavno prebacio samo tekst ovamo? Army rooster moze da s esnimi kao txt/html fajl pa onda samo copy paste. Ova slika ima 250 kb-a, i nekome sa dial-upom bi mozda smetalo da je skida.
Pendargon wrote:...po toj logici, mogao bih da isecem lepih 10 kockastih komada stiropora, na devet zalepim bolter i bolt pistolj, i granate, i mali nozic, jednom zalepim powerfist da viri, a na jednog zakacim lasscannon, i imam savrsenu jedinicu chaos space marinaca....
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mladjano bugarce
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Pedja, mislim da ti je los izbor magicnih predmeta... lordu ne treba onaj ring na primer jer magiju imas 0 (bilo ko ko dolazi na turnir ce da ti dispeluje celu fazu)...
verzija 1: armor of protection (jeftin 4+ ward), bow of the seafarer (moze da sleti nekoj konjici u bok i da je naslaze), halberd obican
verzija 2: vam. of defence, ench. shield, amulet of purifing flame, halberd, dragon armor... mada sa tim 3+ save pitanje sta moze da re-roll-uje... cak i od hanguna ima samo 5+ save... a gadjace ga obicno topovi...
verzija 3: armor of protection, amulet of fire, amulet of purifing flame, foe bane, shield
u svim verzijama pure of heart.
Komandera isto mislim da mozes bolje da sastavis... nisam siguran da ti njemu treba 5+ ward sa cela 2 wounda... kombinacija itema bi zavisila od toga sta das generalu... okvirno i njemu dajes da se cuva od magije ili da radi neki dmg u CC.
Kocije nikako sa 4 konja jer onda zauzmes ceo front jedinice i ne moze nista drugo da uleti. Kada imas samo 2 konja, moze da ti uleti u neku jedinicu konjica plus kocija ili eventualno 2 (ako ti recimo zagine 1 konjanik ili ako chargujes beastmene, orkove... nesto sa vecim postoljima)...
Muzicar u konjici je MUST HAVE.
Dragon princ sampionu das onaj helm da re-rolluje save i ima jos +1 na save... onda imas 1+ save sa re-roll-om, tako da ono uvek zove glavnog baju na challendge...
verzija 1: armor of protection (jeftin 4+ ward), bow of the seafarer (moze da sleti nekoj konjici u bok i da je naslaze), halberd obican
verzija 2: vam. of defence, ench. shield, amulet of purifing flame, halberd, dragon armor... mada sa tim 3+ save pitanje sta moze da re-roll-uje... cak i od hanguna ima samo 5+ save... a gadjace ga obicno topovi...
verzija 3: armor of protection, amulet of fire, amulet of purifing flame, foe bane, shield
u svim verzijama pure of heart.
Komandera isto mislim da mozes bolje da sastavis... nisam siguran da ti njemu treba 5+ ward sa cela 2 wounda
... kombinacija itema bi zavisila od toga sta das generalu... okvirno i njemu dajes da se cuva od magije ili da radi neki dmg u CC.Kocije nikako sa 4 konja jer onda zauzmes ceo front jedinice i ne moze nista drugo da uleti. Kada imas samo 2 konja, moze da ti uleti u neku jedinicu konjica plus kocija ili eventualno 2 (ako ti recimo zagine 1 konjanik ili ako chargujes beastmene, orkove... nesto sa vecim postoljima)...
Muzicar u konjici je MUST HAVE.
Dragon princ sampionu das onaj helm da re-rolluje save i ima jos +1 na save... onda imas 1+ save sa re-roll-om, tako da ono uvek zove glavnog baju na challendge...
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
pa, ne bas sjajno... daleko od toga da ces sa HE ovakvim kakvi su danas uspeti da napravis neku turbo turnirsku listu ali mislim da moze bolje od ovoga...Kako vam se ovo cini za turnirsku armiju.
ring of fury, suvisno... nema leba sa svoje 4 power kockice da to nekome provuces... moze ono slucajno da se desi al onda ima sigurno da ti se upuva pa opet nista... ovaj lik na orlu je interesantna ideja... mag ima level viska a cela armija ti ima dispel kocke i skrolove manjka... cemu ovoliki sampioni kod helmova i zasto tako malo ceriota... i ne valja na turnir bez bar nekog boltera makar i u konjickoj armiji... takodje nemas nikakvu pomoc na planu psihologije sto moze biti problem...
evo je moja varijacija na istu temu...
Elf Prince - 554 Pts
Lance; Shield
Dragon
LoreMaster
Armour of Protection
Dispel Scroll
Commander - 142 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield
Elf Steed; Ithilmar Barding
Pure of Heart
Radiant Gem of Hoeth; Lore of Fire
Mage - 152 Pts
Lore of Metal
Elven Steed; Ithilmar Barding
2x Dispel Scroll
5 Silver Helms - 175 Pts
Shield; Heavy Armour
Musician; Standard Bearer; Champion
First Among Equals; Lion Standard
2x 5 Silver Helms - 244 Pts
Shield; Heavy Armour
Musician
5 Ellyrian Reavers - 97 Pts
Musician
6 Dragon Princes - 246 Pts
Musician
Standard Bearer; War Banner
Drakemaster; Blessed Tome
4x Tiranoc Chariot - 340 Pts
2x Repeater Bolt Thrower - 200 Pts
2x Great Eagle - 100 Pts
Casting/Dispel Pool: 5 (4 upotrebljive)/5 (3 Dispel Scrolls)
Total Army Cost: 2250
loremaster je skupo placena dispel kocka i mogucnost nosenja skrola. heroj ide u helmove sa banerom cime postaju imuni na strah, teror i paniku... ako izvuce flaming sword ekstra ako ne uzme fireball bez nade da mu ikad prodje... mag uzme onu osnovnu metal magiju i pokusava celu partiju da je baci, ide sa riverima...
misljenja o ovoj listi?
EDIT:
ovo je jos bolje...Dragon princ sampionu das onaj helm da re-rolluje save i ima jos +1 na save... onda imas 1+ save sa re-roll-om, tako da ono uvek zove glavnog baju na challendge...
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Luka_Pancevo
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Luka_Pancevo
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Evo moje ideje:
Princ na grifonu, Bow of the Bolt thrower i shugavi 4+WSv LA (ne ulazi u CC osim ako ne brejkuje protivnika 100%), pure of heart
lvl2 sa jewel of the dusk i skrolom
lvl2 sa seer (bira magije) i skrolom
lvl2 sa ring of fury-em i skrolom
3 x 5 helmova sa 2+ oklopom (mozda cak i 3 jedinice archera), muzicari
6 kocija
4 boltera
Ideja liste je da se protivnicke jedinice oslabe magijom i pucanjem, pa da onda ukucas dve-tri kocije ili lorda.
Princ na grifonu, Bow of the Bolt thrower i shugavi 4+WSv LA (ne ulazi u CC osim ako ne brejkuje protivnika 100%), pure of heart
lvl2 sa jewel of the dusk i skrolom
lvl2 sa seer (bira magije) i skrolom
lvl2 sa ring of fury-em i skrolom
3 x 5 helmova sa 2+ oklopom (mozda cak i 3 jedinice archera), muzicari
6 kocija
4 boltera
Ideja liste je da se protivnicke jedinice oslabe magijom i pucanjem, pa da onda ukucas dve-tri kocije ili lorda.
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mladjano bugarce
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Par komentara na Nesinu listu.
1.Imaces veliki problem s protivnickim masinama. Dzinovi stizu tek u trecem krugu a pesadija u cetvrtom a da lord na vajvernu izleti pred par topova ili bolt throwera...
2. Lord lovac na zmajeve i druge zveri ti ne treba jer se pored 8 cuka nece naleteti. S druge strane, ja bi ostavio Lorda na vajvernu - nije beskorisan i vrlo je orkovski. Obavezno mu daj mac koji za svakog protivnickog karaktera u 12`` dodaje +1str i +1att. (To je jedan od najboljih mag. itema u igri) a ostalo po zelji. Mozda lord moze da bude cak i savage Orc( u proseku 7/8 napada str 7/8 lord i 4 napada str6 wivern)
3. Goblin mi se prilicno svidja, koliko znam on ima neku veliku snagu na jedan krug
4. Uzeo bi savage orc heroja na svinji i dao mu porko pig stick - to je 9 napada str5 kada jurisa
5.Neteri su prilicno fina stvar za najt gobline
6.Razmisli i o savage orc mocima na svinjama sa sampionom njih 5 ima 13 napada str5 i 8 napada str4 u jurisu i kostaju ispod 150p.
1.Imaces veliki problem s protivnickim masinama. Dzinovi stizu tek u trecem krugu a pesadija u cetvrtom a da lord na vajvernu izleti pred par topova ili bolt throwera...
2. Lord lovac na zmajeve i druge zveri ti ne treba jer se pored 8 cuka nece naleteti. S druge strane, ja bi ostavio Lorda na vajvernu - nije beskorisan i vrlo je orkovski. Obavezno mu daj mac koji za svakog protivnickog karaktera u 12`` dodaje +1str i +1att. (To je jedan od najboljih mag. itema u igri) a ostalo po zelji. Mozda lord moze da bude cak i savage Orc( u proseku 7/8 napada str 7/8 lord i 4 napada str6 wivern)
3. Goblin mi se prilicno svidja, koliko znam on ima neku veliku snagu na jedan krug
4. Uzeo bi savage orc heroja na svinji i dao mu porko pig stick - to je 9 napada str5 kada jurisa
5.Neteri su prilicno fina stvar za najt gobline
6.Razmisli i o savage orc mocima na svinjama sa sampionom njih 5 ima 13 napada str5 i 8 napada str4 u jurisu i kostaju ispod 150p.
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Imas lorda i comandera, a nijedan ne moze da puca, sto ako vec ne vodis magijsku armiju, ne valja. Lord zauzima dva karakter slota, sto je previse za HE, i po meni kosta suvise za ono sto moze da uradi. Ja bi se vodio time da kosta sto manje, moze da leti i dobro da puca (recimo eagle i onaj bolt thrower).
HE bolteri po meni su potpuno beskorisni, prvo ima dva clana posade (samo), a drugo jako mnogo kostaju za to sto mogu da urade.
Konjice treba da imaju muzicare pre championa.
Great eaglesi su mnogo bolji od boltera (kako si ti i stavio) jer mogu da potamane sve osim dwarfovske artiljerije.
Dragon princeze uopste ne bi uzimo, opet iz razloga sto previse kostaju, a ne prave veci damage od obicne konjice.
Imas lorda i comandera, a nijedan ne moze da puca, sto ako vec ne vodis magijsku armiju, ne valja. Lord zauzima dva karakter slota, sto je previse za HE, i po meni kosta suvise za ono sto moze da uradi. Ja bi se vodio time da kosta sto manje, moze da leti i dobro da puca (recimo eagle i onaj bolt thrower).
HE bolteri po meni su potpuno beskorisni, prvo ima dva clana posade (samo), a drugo jako mnogo kostaju za to sto mogu da urade.
Konjice treba da imaju muzicare pre championa.
Great eaglesi su mnogo bolji od boltera (kako si ti i stavio) jer mogu da potamane sve osim dwarfovske artiljerije.
Dragon princeze uopste ne bi uzimo, opet iz razloga sto previse kostaju, a ne prave veci damage od obicne konjice.
"Narod u demokratiji ne može da pogreši. Kakva god da je odluka naroda to je odluka Boga." Vulin.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
"Potrebno je da vozilo koje vrši transport ima onu ruku napred, da prebacuje... Imaju proizvođači, ja sad ne znam ko su“ Velja.
„Na Beka su pucali amateri, jednom je čak spala kapuljača“ Nesa.
Eh da, sto se tice Pedjine liste ja sam se vodio idejom da covek zeli generala na zmaju i listu kakvu je sastavio (okvirno)....
Inace po mom misljenju najbolja opcija ti je lord na grifonu jer, po mom skromnom misljenju, svaka armija treba da ima terror causera, barem jednog. A i grifon ja malo otporniji na boltere recimo (mozes da izdrzis 1 ceo bolter jer imas 4 wounda)... naravno grifon ima i prilicno vecu cenu od eagle-a.... ali to je vec pitanje stila igre... Inace, mislim da ti je prilicno dobra kombinacija da ti lord ima onaj bolt thrower i 4+ ward i halberd za CC.
Jedinu ulogu dragon princeza koju vidim jeste za onu kombinaciju sa sampionom koju sam naveo (1+ save sa re-roll-om)... sve druge jedinice ne trebaju da imaju sampiona jer je visak (osim eventualno ako ne ubacis nekog komandera, pa kao da moze da odbije challendge)
@mladjano bugarce: da, taj sa stickom za naslagivanje je odlican izbor, i njega sam hteo prvenstveno da napravim... medjutim ondak sam se zapitao: a ko na turniru vodi blokove jedinica???
Za boltere jeste istina, prevideo sam cinjenicu da pogadjaju na 4+ zbog large targeta... sto bitno menja stvari (sta cu kad ne vodim pucacke liste :oops: ). To znaci da lordu treba promeniti kako je naoruzan.... razmisljao sam i o tom itemu koji si spomenuo, ali nisam siguran da li je dobar za turnire (previse magova koji se kriju po sumama)...
Dzin + par poena = svinje + doom diver... Jasno je sta radi bolje... ali dzin je lepa figura... takodje 2 dzina + par poena = 2 doom divera + svinje + 2 jedinice vukova....
back to the drawing table (stavicu jednu uber-turnirsku listu sledeci put i kombinaciju sa dzinom/dzinovima)... verzija 2 u pravljenju
Inace po mom misljenju najbolja opcija ti je lord na grifonu jer, po mom skromnom misljenju, svaka armija treba da ima terror causera, barem jednog. A i grifon ja malo otporniji na boltere recimo (mozes da izdrzis 1 ceo bolter jer imas 4 wounda)... naravno grifon ima i prilicno vecu cenu od eagle-a.... ali to je vec pitanje stila igre... Inace, mislim da ti je prilicno dobra kombinacija da ti lord ima onaj bolt thrower i 4+ ward i halberd za CC.
Jedinu ulogu dragon princeza koju vidim jeste za onu kombinaciju sa sampionom koju sam naveo (1+ save sa re-roll-om)... sve druge jedinice ne trebaju da imaju sampiona jer je visak (osim eventualno ako ne ubacis nekog komandera, pa kao da moze da odbije challendge)
@mladjano bugarce: da, taj sa stickom za naslagivanje je odlican izbor, i njega sam hteo prvenstveno da napravim... medjutim ondak sam se zapitao: a ko na turniru vodi blokove jedinica???
Za boltere jeste istina, prevideo sam cinjenicu da pogadjaju na 4+ zbog large targeta... sto bitno menja stvari (sta cu kad ne vodim pucacke liste :oops: ). To znaci da lordu treba promeniti kako je naoruzan.... razmisljao sam i o tom itemu koji si spomenuo, ali nisam siguran da li je dobar za turnire (previse magova koji se kriju po sumama)...
Dzin + par poena = svinje + doom diver
... Jasno je sta radi bolje... ali dzin je lepa figura... takodje 2 dzina + par poena = 2 doom divera + svinje + 2 jedinice vukova.... back to the drawing table (stavicu jednu uber-turnirsku listu sledeci put i kombinaciju sa dzinom/dzinovima)... verzija 2 u pravljenju
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Duc d' Elchingen
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Duc d' Elchingen
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Ne moze... pise da se magic armori ne mogu kombinovati... rever bow je dobar samo za liste sa jako mnogo pucanja (sea guard?)... ovako sam po sebi nece nista uraditi... jedini dobar pucacki predmet ti je onaj bolter jer mozes neku konjicu da naslazes ili da upucas nesto vazno (lorda na zmaju?)... medjutim problem sa pucackom HE armijom je sto je to ili masakr za ili protiv... jednostavno ako stignu do tebe gotovo... nije da je mnogo drugacije sa all cavalry HE armijom, mada ipak ima razlike...Duc d' Elchingen wrote:A Princ na zmaju sa Armour of Protection, Enchanted Shield (koliko znam moze u kombinaciji sa drugim magicnim oklopom), Reaver Bow (3 hica S5), lance, Pure of Hart?
Moze da se bije a i lepo puca.
A za R&F jedinice cemo videti... obe kombinacije su dobre pa cemo videti... ja i dalje verujem da ce dominacija u WH-u ostati na skirmisherima, pucanju (magicno i obicno) i letenju.... ali vreme ce da pokaze svoje jos... nova dwarf knjiga mi ne govori drugacije, nova WE knjiga mi ne govori drugacije, nova emire knjiga mi ne govori drugacije
.... o&g isto... (8 boltera plus 2 doom divera plus 6+ fanatika). Od svega toga dwarfovi jos imaju i najbolju mogucnost za fajt listu, pogotovu ako odobre spec. karaktere.... Videcemo jos, ja se iskreno nadam da gresim...I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pa uvek mozes da se dogovoris s nekim da igrate tako.U takvim bitkama(po meni)dolazi do izrazaja pravi smisao za taktiku a ne samo racunanje, mogucnosti, sanse itd...Duc d' Elchingen wrote:Kada bi u GW uspeli u potpunosti da nateraju da to nekako lici na srednjovekovno/anticke bitke bilo bi super.
Ja licno najvise volim kada mogu da stavim kopljanike, strelce i sl.
Get off my way peasant!
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Duc d' Elchingen
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Ako se dobro secam, ja sam ga uspeo ugurati u petoj ediciji kod bretonaca u 1000 poena
"There are times when destiny calls forth a people and demands an action. Now is the time. We are the people. This is our action. Charge!"
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I would not have as long as I can remember."
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Duc d' Elchingen
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Mind Uploader
Lista?
E, ljudi, kako vam se cini ova lista? Je l' zabavna, je l' moze nesto na turniru, je l' bi igrali protiv iste?
2250 Pts - Wood Elves Army
1 * Alter Highborn @ 287 Pts
Alter; Great Weapon; Longbow; Light Armour; Shield
Bow of Loren [35]
Starfire Arrows [25]
Amaranthine Brooch [35]
1 Branchwraith @ 165 Pts
General; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren
Muster of Malevolents [25]
Pageant of Skrikes [25]
1 Glamourweave Spellsinger @ 225 Pts
Glamourweave; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren; Longbow
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Unicorn @ [65] Pts
1 Glamourweave Spellsinger @ 225 Pts
Glamourweave; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren; Longbow
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Unicorn @ [65] Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
3 Treekin @ 195 Pts
3 Treekin @ 195 Pts
1 Treeman @ 285 Pts
1 Treeman @ 285 Pts
Casting Pool: 5
Dispel Pool: 5
Models in Army: 46
Total Army Cost: 2246
2250 Pts - Wood Elves Army
1 * Alter Highborn @ 287 Pts
Alter; Great Weapon; Longbow; Light Armour; Shield
Bow of Loren [35]
Starfire Arrows [25]
Amaranthine Brooch [35]
1 Branchwraith @ 165 Pts
General; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren
Muster of Malevolents [25]
Pageant of Skrikes [25]
1 Glamourweave Spellsinger @ 225 Pts
Glamourweave; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren; Longbow
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Unicorn @ [65] Pts
1 Glamourweave Spellsinger @ 225 Pts
Glamourweave; Magic Level 1; Lore of Athel Loren; Longbow
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Unicorn @ [65] Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
8 Dryads @ 96 Pts
3 Treekin @ 195 Pts
3 Treekin @ 195 Pts
1 Treeman @ 285 Pts
1 Treeman @ 285 Pts
Casting Pool: 5
Dispel Pool: 5
Models in Army: 46
Total Army Cost: 2246
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Zekina banda
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Srki, ne razumem se bas u WH, ali mi se cini da te je nesto malo (osim toga, kakav si ti to wood elf bez strelaca :lol:
Izgubio je sve ko nije razumeo da je pobeda bila nesto drugo
http://offgridttgamers.blogspot.rs/
stari blog http://waxerspasttime.wordpress.com/
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Meni se lista jako dopada samo sto bi magove stavio na obicne konje i dao im lvl2. Takodje bi lordu netlinge i hail of doom umesto bow of lorena i starfire strela. On treba da se bije (kao ostatak vojske) a ne da puca.
Oduvek sam zeleo da igram protiv forest spirit armije
edit: ako vec oces da zadrzish lorda ovakvog kakav daj mu makar no armor strele mesto starfire-a. mnoooogo su bolje.
Oduvek sam zeleo da igram protiv forest spirit armije
edit: ako vec oces da zadrzish lorda ovakvog kakav daj mu makar no armor strele mesto starfire-a. mnoooogo su bolje.
Istina. Na turnirima no armor save uvek koristi, dok starfire arrows protiv vampira, tomb kingova, lizardmena, ogrova, nema bas mnogo efekta. I obavezno ukini Glamourweave, to ne da nije korisno, nego ti odmaze. Ako ti ne daj boze neko charguje maga, ne mozes da bezis sa njim. Generalu skini bow of loren i daj mu helm of the hunt, i eto...
There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.
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orome pancevo
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Sad ja :D
Noble(GW,LA,SH,HoDA,HotH)general
Spellweaver(4lvl,deepwood sphere,glamourweave,D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvlelven steed,2*D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvl,Calaingors stave,D.S.)
core:
9 dryads
3*10 glade guard
2*5 glade riders
special:
7 wardancers(full comand)
rare:
2*treeman
Noble(GW,LA,SH,HoDA,HotH)general
Spellweaver(4lvl,deepwood sphere,glamourweave,D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvlelven steed,2*D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvl,Calaingors stave,D.S.)
core:
9 dryads
3*10 glade guard
2*5 glade riders
special:
7 wardancers(full comand)
rare:
2*treeman
audaces fortuna iuvat
Shunka wrote:Upravo sam se setio da sam ja mod ovde!
Aman bre ljudi ne preterujte u zajebavanju coveka!
Ovo je vrlo potencijalna lista...orome pancevo wrote:Sad ja :D
Noble(GW,LA,SH,HoDA,HotH)general
Spellweaver(4lvl,deepwood sphere,glamourweave,D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvlelven steed,2*D.S.)
Spellsinger(2lvl,Calaingors stave,D.S.)
core:
9 dryads
3*10 glade guard
2*5 glade riders
special:
7 wardancers(full comand)
rare:
2*treeman
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Jeste, ali zato treeman baca preko potrebnu magiju i ima ono lepo pucanje za skidanje skirmish neoklopljenih jedinica koje ne moze da misfire-ujePetar-Pan. wrote:Tenk je anbrejkablNo 1 wrote:Kad god vidim 2 treemana u armiji shvatim da ni dva tenka nisu mnogo.
... Ne kazem da tenk nije dobar, samo da je treeman takodje preteran I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Duc d' Elchingen
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