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Mozes je dobiti u pdf formatu next time we meetDuc d' Elchingen wrote:A jel uopste izasla nova imperijana knjiga?
... Kao i nove orkove... Kad budes zakazao neki FOW kod sebe donecu ti recimo na flash-uI must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Evo jedne army liste Cult of Urlic, molim komentare, savjete kako bih poboljsao armiju.
1 Grand Master of the White Wolves @ 266 Pts
General; Barding; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Warhorse
Sword of Power [40]
Holy Relic [45]
Claw Totem [15]
7 White Wolf Knights @ 224 Pts
Barding; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician; Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
7 Knights of the Blazing Sun @ 248 Pts
Barding; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Standard;Musician;Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
7 Gryphon Legion @ 232 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Musican 1 Champion @ [16] Pts
19 Halberdiers @ 195 Pts
Halberd; Light Armour; Musician
1 Priest of Ulric @ [83] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Great Weapon; Heavy Armour
1 Sergeant @ [8] Pts
19 Warriors of Ulric @ 199 Pts
Light Armour; Shield; Musician
1 Champion @ [13] Pts
1 Priest of Ulric @ [81] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Heavy Armour; Shield
12 Teutogen Guard of the Inner Circle @ 199 Pts
Inner Circle; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician, 1 Preceptor
1 Steam Tank @ 300 Pts
Main Cannon; Steam Gun
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 112 Pts
Dawn Armour [35]
Wyrmslayer Sword [15]
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Heart of Middenheim [40]
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Aldred's Casket of Sorcery [35]
Biting Blade [5]
Casting Pool: 2
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 83
Total Army Cost: 2179
1 Grand Master of the White Wolves @ 266 Pts
General; Barding; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Warhorse
Sword of Power [40]
Holy Relic [45]
Claw Totem [15]
7 White Wolf Knights @ 224 Pts
Barding; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician; Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
7 Knights of the Blazing Sun @ 248 Pts
Barding; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Standard;Musician;Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
7 Gryphon Legion @ 232 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Musican 1 Champion @ [16] Pts
19 Halberdiers @ 195 Pts
Halberd; Light Armour; Musician
1 Priest of Ulric @ [83] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Great Weapon; Heavy Armour
1 Sergeant @ [8] Pts
19 Warriors of Ulric @ 199 Pts
Light Armour; Shield; Musician
1 Champion @ [13] Pts
1 Priest of Ulric @ [81] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Heavy Armour; Shield
12 Teutogen Guard of the Inner Circle @ 199 Pts
Inner Circle; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician, 1 Preceptor
1 Steam Tank @ 300 Pts
Main Cannon; Steam Gun
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 112 Pts
Dawn Armour [35]
Wyrmslayer Sword [15]
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Heart of Middenheim [40]
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Aldred's Casket of Sorcery [35]
Biting Blade [5]
Casting Pool: 2
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 83
Total Army Cost: 2179
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Odustanes od Cult-a i igras normalnu imperiju. I to ti kaze covek koji igra povremeno sa Cult-om...HIPERION wrote:Evo jedne army liste Cult of Urlic, molim komentare, savjete kako bih poboljsao armiju.
Ne treba ti Sword of Power kada imas cekic. Ne treba ti Holi relic jer protivvnicke karaktere izbegavas kao kugu - GM jeste solidan Fighter ali skoro sve je ipak bolje od njega...Grand Master of the White Wolves @ 266 Pts
General; Barding; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Warhorse
Sword of Power [40]
Holy Relic [45]
Claw Totem [15]
Od predmeta mu das Laurels of Victory i MR(1) (Cloak of Anraheir)
9 ili 11 komada, obavezno Inner Circle. Sa Banner-om da sav shooting ima -1 S.7 White Wolf Knights @ 224 Pts
Barding; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician; Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
Cult ne moze imati obicnu konjicu - Army Builder je tesko bagovan po pitanju Cult-a pa liste moras slagati rucno...7 Knights of the Blazing Sun @ 248 Pts
Barding; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Standard;Musician;Warhorse
1 Preceptor @ [16] Pts
Previse fragilno, magija (a DS nemas) ih ubije kao muve.7 Gryphon Legion @ 232 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Musican 1 Champion @ [16] Pts
Od jeftine pesadije jedino se isplati uzimati Warriors of Ulrik sa LA i stitom, sa GW eventualno. Jedinica treba da bude 25+. Popa stavi na barded konja, inace ce da umre od promaje.19 Halberdiers @ 195 Pts
Halberd; Light Armour; Musician
1 Priest of Ulric @ [83] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Great Weapon; Heavy Armour
1 Sergeant @ [8] Pts
19 Warriors of Ulric @ 199 Pts
Light Armour; Shield; Musician
1 Champion @ [13] Pts
1 Priest of Ulric @ [81] Pts
Prayers of Ulric; Heavy Armour; Shield
Premalo, 18 + BSB na konju je idealna kolicina. Arcane Warding banner je obavezan.12 Teutogen Guard of the Inner Circle @ 199 Pts
Inner Circle; White Wolf Hammer; Full Plate Armor; Standard; Musician, 1 Preceptor
Ne mozes imati tenk u Cult-u.... Downloaduj listu sa GW-ovog sajta, nemoj se patiti sa army builder-om.1 Steam Tank @ 300 Pts
Main Cannon; Steam Gun
Cene item-a su pogresne - opet, treba ti lista... Wyrmslayer Sword ne treba u zivotu liku sa S5/6...1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 112 Pts
Dawn Armour [35]
Wyrmslayer Sword [15]
Seneschal-e obavezno stavljas na konje bez obzira sto idu u pesadiju.1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Heart of Middenheim [40]
1 Seneschal of the White Wolf @ 102 Pts
Full Plate Armor
Aldred's Casket of Sorcery [35]
Biting Blade [5]
Biting Blade ti u zivotu ne treba.
Opet Item-i iz Army Builder-a...
Cult mora imati:
Grand Master-a opremljenog da ubija zilje;
BSB-a na konju;
Wolfkin-e;
Masne jedinice;
3+ jedinica hunting hounds-a.
Veoma su pozeljni:
Huntsmen-i;
Dve jedinice teske konjice od 9-11 velicine;
Ekstra popa u pesadiji koji nosi item-e koji ti daju eksta DD.
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
Evo mojih Zooloom Boyz, kako vam se cini 
2250 Pts - Orcs & Goblins Army
Orc Warboss 221 pts.
2ndWeapon
Amulet of Protectyness Bearer has armour and ward save of model wounding him
Horn of Ugrok Bound spell, Power 5; Until end of turn, friendly units +1 Ld,
enemy units -1 Ld. Roll D6 after each use. On a 1, bearer
suffers S5 hit (no armour save).
Warboss Imbad's Iron Gnashas Killing Blow
Savage Orc Big Boss 129 pts.
Frenzy; Immune to Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses
combat.
Great Weapon; +2S (+1 if mounted). Strikes last in HtH unless
charging
Warpaint; 6+ ward save
Nibbla's Itty Ring Bound spell, Power 3, 'Eadbutt. Roll a D6 after each use,
suffers a S5 hit on a 1 (no armour saves).
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots +1A
Orc Shaman 150 pts.
Magic Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.
Big Waagh
Choppa; +1St on own or w/ shield on charge
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only.
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only.
Night Goblin Shaman 135 pts.
Magic Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.
Little Waagh
Staff of Sneaky Stealin' Takes one power die from opponent and adds to you dispel pool.,
Goblins only
Orc Big 'Uns 23 kom. 294 pts.
Animosity.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Light Armour
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Orc Boss [15]
Savage Big 'Uns 23 kom. 366 pts.
Animosity.
Frenzy; Immune to Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses
combat.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Warpaint; 6+ ward save
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Savage Orc Boss [15]
Orc Boyz 24 kom. 205 pts.
Animosity.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Light Armour
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Orc Boss [15]
Orc Arrer Boyz 10 kom. 60 pts.
Animosity.
Choppa; +1St on own or w/ shield on charge
Normal Bow; 24", S3
Light Armour
Night Goblins 20 kom. 167 pts.
Animosity. Hate Dwarfs. Fear Elves.
Spear; 2 ranks in HtH if static
Shield; +1Sv w/ handweapon in HtH
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Fanatic 3 kom.
Night Goblins 20 kom.
Animosity. Hate Dwarfs. Fear Elves.
Shortbow; 16", St3 hit
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Fanatic 3 kom.
4x Spear Chukka
Rock Lobber
Doom Diver
Boar Chariot
Total 2249 pts.
2250 Pts - Orcs & Goblins Army
Orc Warboss 221 pts.
2ndWeapon
Amulet of Protectyness Bearer has armour and ward save of model wounding him
Horn of Ugrok Bound spell, Power 5; Until end of turn, friendly units +1 Ld,
enemy units -1 Ld. Roll D6 after each use. On a 1, bearer
suffers S5 hit (no armour save).
Warboss Imbad's Iron Gnashas Killing Blow
Savage Orc Big Boss 129 pts.
Frenzy; Immune to Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses
combat.
Great Weapon; +2S (+1 if mounted). Strikes last in HtH unless
charging
Warpaint; 6+ ward save
Nibbla's Itty Ring Bound spell, Power 3, 'Eadbutt. Roll a D6 after each use,
suffers a S5 hit on a 1 (no armour saves).
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots +1A
Orc Shaman 150 pts.
Magic Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.
Big Waagh
Choppa; +1St on own or w/ shield on charge
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only.
Dispel Scroll Dispels one spell. One use only.
Night Goblin Shaman 135 pts.
Magic Level 2; +2 dice to casting and +1 to dispel pool. Has 2
spells.
Little Waagh
Staff of Sneaky Stealin' Takes one power die from opponent and adds to you dispel pool.,
Goblins only
Orc Big 'Uns 23 kom. 294 pts.
Animosity.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Light Armour
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Orc Boss [15]
Savage Big 'Uns 23 kom. 366 pts.
Animosity.
Frenzy; Immune to Psychology. Frenzy ends when unit loses
combat.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Warpaint; 6+ ward save
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Savage Orc Boss [15]
Orc Boyz 24 kom. 205 pts.
Animosity.
2ndWeapon; +1A if on foot
Choppa; When used mounted or with extra HW, counts as a normal
HW.
Light Armour
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Orc Boss [15]
Orc Arrer Boyz 10 kom. 60 pts.
Animosity.
Choppa; +1St on own or w/ shield on charge
Normal Bow; 24", S3
Light Armour
Night Goblins 20 kom. 167 pts.
Animosity. Hate Dwarfs. Fear Elves.
Spear; 2 ranks in HtH if static
Shield; +1Sv w/ handweapon in HtH
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Fanatic 3 kom.
Night Goblins 20 kom.
Animosity. Hate Dwarfs. Fear Elves.
Shortbow; 16", St3 hit
Standard; +1CR
Musician; +1CR if tied; +1 Ld in rally attempts.
Fanatic 3 kom.
4x Spear Chukka
Rock Lobber
Doom Diver
Boar Chariot
Total 2249 pts.
Za turnire nije dovoljno dobra, a za friendly liste je previse... ponavljajuca? Nemas nista sto ne radi nista a lepo izgleda
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
Imas li ti neku bolju ideju,predolg ubaci - izbaci 
Pa evo jedne moje armijice za koju bih voleo da cujem kritike. Nov sam, tako da mi treba sva pomoc koju mogu da dobijem. Ovo je primer turnirske armije:
Zelembaci 2250 Pts - Orcs & Goblins Army
1 Orc Warboss @ 218 Pts
General; Choppa; Light Armour
Martog's Best Basha [15]
Enchanted Shield [15]
Warboss Um's Best Big Boss At [30]
Ironback Boar [35]
1 Boar @ [0] Pts
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 100 Pts
Magic Level 1; Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
29 Savage Boyz @ 290 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
30 Savage Big 'Uns @ 430 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
Nogg's Banner of Butchery [25]
40 Night Goblins @ 235 Pts
Spear; Shield
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Shield; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Shield; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
12 Savage Boar Big 'Uns @ 418 Pts
Standard; Frenzy; Choppa; Warpaint; Shield; Musician
Gorks Waaagh Banner [25]
12 Boar @ [0] Pts
10 Squig Hoppers @ 150 Pts
2 Spear Chukka @ 70 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pt
Casting Pool: 3
Dispel Pool: 3
Models in Army: 157
Total Army Cost: 2248
Zelembaci 2250 Pts - Orcs & Goblins Army
1 Orc Warboss @ 218 Pts
General; Choppa; Light Armour
Martog's Best Basha [15]
Enchanted Shield [15]
Warboss Um's Best Big Boss At [30]
Ironback Boar [35]
1 Boar @ [0] Pts
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 100 Pts
Magic Level 1; Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
29 Savage Boyz @ 290 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
30 Savage Big 'Uns @ 430 Pts
Frenzy; Choppa; Spear; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
Nogg's Banner of Butchery [25]
40 Night Goblins @ 235 Pts
Spear; Shield
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Shield; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
5 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 71 Pts
Spear; Shield; Musician
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
12 Savage Boar Big 'Uns @ 418 Pts
Standard; Frenzy; Choppa; Warpaint; Shield; Musician
Gorks Waaagh Banner [25]
12 Boar @ [0] Pts
10 Squig Hoppers @ 150 Pts
2 Spear Chukka @ 70 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pt
Casting Pool: 3
Dispel Pool: 3
Models in Army: 157
Total Army Cost: 2248
Lepa armija nema sta,samo brale moras da pazis da ti od Savage orkova ne neprave majmune tj. da ti ih nevuku za nos pa da popiju bok ](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")
Ne bi bilo lose bar 20 obicnih ork big unsa da razbiju monotoniju a da smanjis savage orke. Konjica (prasica) je za svaku pohvalu,2 doom divera jos bolje mada bar jos 1 chuka bi lepo doslaAko hoces mozemo za vikend da opalimo pariju pa da vidimo nedostatke.
Ne bi bilo lose bar 20 obicnih ork big unsa da razbiju monotoniju a da smanjis savage orke. Konjica (prasica) je za svaku pohvalu,2 doom divera jos bolje mada bar jos 1 chuka bi lepo doslaAko hoces mozemo za vikend da opalimo pariju pa da vidimo nedostatke.-
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Turnirska lista treba da ima 4-6 Chuka i 1-2 doomdiver-a.
Prijateljska lista nije prijateljska bez goblina u kociji... :P
Prijateljska lista nije prijateljska bez goblina u kociji... :P
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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Glede navlacanja - nije to vise tako lako uraditi, a kao ork imas jeftine stvari da to sprecis (vukov, pauci) koje josh ne mogu uzrokovati paniku u bilo cemu bitnom.
PS. Ako imas 2-3 chuke nije losa stvar staviti bully-a - za 5pts dobijes 4. clana posade, ignorises paniku od goblina a moze on i nesto ubiti...
PS. Ako imas 2-3 chuke nije losa stvar staviti bully-a - za 5pts dobijes 4. clana posade, ignorises paniku od goblina a moze on i nesto ubiti...
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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Goblin (40) + kocija (60) + malo opreme (10-15pts) = 18" charge koji potire redove...SRBENDA wrote:...i kociju ali orkovsku...
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
Potrosio sam i ono sto nisam smeo da bi sastavio armiju kako mi se svidja,kako vam se cini ova lista.
1 Black Orc Warboss @ 451 Pts
General
Heavy Armour
Ulag's Akk'rit Axe [25]
Enchanted Shield [15]
Warboss Um's Best Big Boss At [30]
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots [30]
1 Wyvern @ [200] Pts
1 Orc Shaman @ 150 Pts
Magic Level 2
Big Waagh
Choppa
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 100 Pts
Magic Level 1
Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
24 Savage Big 'Uns @ 380 Pts
Frenzy
2ndWeapon
Choppa
Warpaint
Standard
Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Orc Big 'Uns @ 294 Pts
2ndWeapon
Choppa
Light Armour
Standard
Musician
1 Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 167 Pts
Spear
Shield
Standard
Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 147 Pts
Shortbow
Standard
Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Rock Lobber @ 70 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
1 Boar Chariot @ 85 Pts
3 Orc Crew @ [0] Pts
Spear
2 Boar @ [0] Pts
4 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 93 Pts
Spear
Short Bow
Light Armour
Shield
Musician
1 Goblin Boss @ [12] Pts
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
4 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 93 Pts
Spear
Short Bow
Light Armour
Shield
Musician
1 Goblin Boss @ [12] Pts
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
Casting Pool: 5
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 133
Total Army Cost: 2250
1 Black Orc Warboss @ 451 Pts
General
Heavy Armour
Ulag's Akk'rit Axe [25]
Enchanted Shield [15]
Warboss Um's Best Big Boss At [30]
Bigged's 'ed Kickin Boots [30]
1 Wyvern @ [200] Pts
1 Orc Shaman @ 150 Pts
Magic Level 2
Big Waagh
Choppa
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
1 Night Goblin Shaman @ 100 Pts
Magic Level 1
Little Waagh
Dispel Scroll [25]
Dispel Scroll [25]
24 Savage Big 'Uns @ 380 Pts
Frenzy
2ndWeapon
Choppa
Warpaint
Standard
Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
23 Orc Big 'Uns @ 294 Pts
2ndWeapon
Choppa
Light Armour
Standard
Musician
1 Orc Boss @ [15] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 167 Pts
Spear
Shield
Standard
Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
20 Night Goblins @ 147 Pts
Shortbow
Standard
Musician
3 Fanatic @ [75] Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Spear Chukka @ 35 Pts
1 Rock Lobber @ 70 Pts
1 Doom Diver @ 80 Pts
1 Boar Chariot @ 85 Pts
3 Orc Crew @ [0] Pts
Spear
2 Boar @ [0] Pts
4 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 93 Pts
Spear
Short Bow
Light Armour
Shield
Musician
1 Goblin Boss @ [12] Pts
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
4 Goblin Wolf Riders @ 93 Pts
Spear
Short Bow
Light Armour
Shield
Musician
1 Goblin Boss @ [12] Pts
5 Wolf @ [0] Pts
Casting Pool: 5
Dispel Pool: 4
Models in Army: 133
Total Army Cost: 2250
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1 Chaos Lord @ 703 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; General; Chaos Armour; Shield
Berserker Sword [40]
Crown of Everlasting Conquest [50]
1 Chaos Dragon @ [360] Pts
1 Exalted Chaos Champion @ 237 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Chaos Armour; Shield
Great Fang [50]
1 Daemonic Mount @ [50] Pts
1 Exalted Chaos Champion @ 158 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Chaos Armour; Shield; Barding
Rending Sword [40]
1 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
5 Chosen Chaos Knights of Khorne @ 390 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Barding; Chosen Unit; Shield; Standard; Musician
War Banner [25]
1 Champion @ [20] Pts
6 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
1 Chaos Chariot @ 120 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided
2 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
2 Chaos Warrior Crew @ [0] Pts
Halberd; Heavy Armour
1 Chaos Chariot @ 120 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided
2 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
2 Chaos Warrior Crew @ [0] Pts
Halberd; Heavy Armour
5 Chaos Warhounds @ 30 Pts
3 Minotaurs of Khorne @ 249 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Great Weapon
1 Bloodkine @ [20] Pts
3 Minotaurs of Khorne @ 241 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; 2ndWeapon
1 Bloodkine @ [20] Pts
Casting Pool: 2
Dispel Pool: 7
Models in Army: 26
Total Army Cost: 2248
Kako vam se cini? Meni lista deluje jako zabavno, a ima cak i neke sanse da pobedi... Bice ofarbana za nekih 2 nedelje do mesec ipo dana... Nista necu farbati drugima dok ne zavrsim ovu armiju...
Planirajte neke bitke...
1 Chaos Lord @ 703 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; General; Chaos Armour; Shield
Berserker Sword [40]
Crown of Everlasting Conquest [50]
1 Chaos Dragon @ [360] Pts
1 Exalted Chaos Champion @ 237 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Chaos Armour; Shield
Great Fang [50]
1 Daemonic Mount @ [50] Pts
1 Exalted Chaos Champion @ 158 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Chaos Armour; Shield; Barding
Rending Sword [40]
1 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
5 Chosen Chaos Knights of Khorne @ 390 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Barding; Chosen Unit; Shield; Standard; Musician
War Banner [25]
1 Champion @ [20] Pts
6 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
1 Chaos Chariot @ 120 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided
2 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
2 Chaos Warrior Crew @ [0] Pts
Halberd; Heavy Armour
1 Chaos Chariot @ 120 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided
2 Chaos Steed @ [0] Pts
2 Chaos Warrior Crew @ [0] Pts
Halberd; Heavy Armour
5 Chaos Warhounds @ 30 Pts
3 Minotaurs of Khorne @ 249 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; Great Weapon
1 Bloodkine @ [20] Pts
3 Minotaurs of Khorne @ 241 Pts
Mark of Khorne; Frenzy; 2ndWeapon
1 Bloodkine @ [20] Pts
Casting Pool: 2
Dispel Pool: 7
Models in Army: 26
Total Army Cost: 2248
Kako vam se cini? Meni lista deluje jako zabavno, a ima cak i neke sanse da pobedi... Bice ofarbana za nekih 2 nedelje do mesec ipo dana... Nista necu farbati drugima dok ne zavrsim ovu armiju...
Planirajte neke bitke...
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@ srki :
Ajde sada cu da budem brutalan, i da izanaliziram listu step by-step. Znam da ti mozda i nije namera da napravis uberlistu, ali sa ovim jako tesko mozes da pobedis. Ista. Evo mojih predloga :
Generalne mane:
1)ima te jako malo
2) nemas dispel scrolove
3) nemas furije
4) imas ocajno malo kucica
5) ne zaboravi da mark of korne ne daje frenzy mauntovima (glupi faq :? )
a) Lord : Prvo, frenziran je, al ajde ako hoces all khorne deo to je u redu. Drugo: Crown je i gori i skuplji od gaze-a, a rade istu stvar. Trece, Zerker sword je sranje, jer najcesce ces dobiti 0 (da nula) napada od njega, jer se zmaj najcesce bori u challengeu (u tom slucaju nema extra napada). Da ne pricamo da te drzi na snazi 5. Halberda je za zmajojahaca iz raja izasla, ili ako hoces vec frenzy lorda, daj mu onaj mac +2 na str, frenzy, i onda dobijes i frenzy zmaja (i dichujes MoK)
b) Baja na demonu je ok, mada bih njemu pre dao krunu i halberdu, ili +1 na snagu mac i enchanted shield jer
c) great fang treba da ide na konjanika koji sa njim ima 1+ armour save. Rending sword je tesko sranje, osim ako ne igras protiv ogrova. Da se ne lazemo, sa str 5 ces tesko povrediti zmaja, a i treba prvo da prezivis jer zmaj obicno ucharguje tebe.
d) Opet po meni, khornovi chozeni su sr... narocito posto imas manjak kucuca da ih screenujes. Za njihove pare mozes da dobijes 2 ekipe obicnih kornovaca samo sa muzicarem. Ali ako insistiras, bolje im daj banner da nikada ne gube frenzy (banner of rage) i skloni im sampiona. Stedi poene, a ti ne zelis da se boris u challengeu.
e)chariot
f) chariot, all good
g) warhounds all good, samo sto ti treba puno, puno vise kuca. Jedna od najboljih jedinica u igri. Odgovorno tvrdim da su mi pobedile vise partija nego moj zmaj (no joke)
h) i e) Minotauri: Pazi sad, skini im bloodkinove (ne zelis challenge sa minotaurima, na to ce ih dobiti), i aditional hand weapon???? Pa oni su str 4, to ne povredjuje ni elfove. Da ne pricamo sto za njihove pare mozes dobiti po 6 golih khornovih knightova sa muzicarem. Bolje biju, i duze prezivljavaju, veruj.
Ovo pisem kao najdobronamerniju kritiku baziranu na sada vec skoro 200 partija sa haosom. Moras da uguras bar 2 skrola, kucice i furije. Inace ce ti ijedna mobilnija armija (citaj svi sem patuljka i ogra) razvuci armiju i pocargeovati te u flank. DA ne pricamo o topovima i spear chukkama...
Ajde sada cu da budem brutalan, i da izanaliziram listu step by-step. Znam da ti mozda i nije namera da napravis uberlistu, ali sa ovim jako tesko mozes da pobedis. Ista. Evo mojih predloga :
Generalne mane:
1)ima te jako malo
2) nemas dispel scrolove
3) nemas furije
4) imas ocajno malo kucica
5) ne zaboravi da mark of korne ne daje frenzy mauntovima (glupi faq :? )
a) Lord : Prvo, frenziran je, al ajde ako hoces all khorne deo to je u redu. Drugo: Crown je i gori i skuplji od gaze-a, a rade istu stvar. Trece, Zerker sword je sranje, jer najcesce ces dobiti 0 (da nula) napada od njega, jer se zmaj najcesce bori u challengeu (u tom slucaju nema extra napada). Da ne pricamo da te drzi na snazi 5. Halberda je za zmajojahaca iz raja izasla, ili ako hoces vec frenzy lorda, daj mu onaj mac +2 na str, frenzy, i onda dobijes i frenzy zmaja (i dichujes MoK)
b) Baja na demonu je ok, mada bih njemu pre dao krunu i halberdu, ili +1 na snagu mac i enchanted shield jer
c) great fang treba da ide na konjanika koji sa njim ima 1+ armour save. Rending sword je tesko sranje, osim ako ne igras protiv ogrova. Da se ne lazemo, sa str 5 ces tesko povrediti zmaja, a i treba prvo da prezivis jer zmaj obicno ucharguje tebe.
d) Opet po meni, khornovi chozeni su sr... narocito posto imas manjak kucuca da ih screenujes. Za njihove pare mozes da dobijes 2 ekipe obicnih kornovaca samo sa muzicarem. Ali ako insistiras, bolje im daj banner da nikada ne gube frenzy (banner of rage) i skloni im sampiona. Stedi poene, a ti ne zelis da se boris u challengeu.
e)chariot
f) chariot, all good
g) warhounds all good, samo sto ti treba puno, puno vise kuca. Jedna od najboljih jedinica u igri. Odgovorno tvrdim da su mi pobedile vise partija nego moj zmaj (no joke)
h) i e) Minotauri: Pazi sad, skini im bloodkinove (ne zelis challenge sa minotaurima, na to ce ih dobiti), i aditional hand weapon???? Pa oni su str 4, to ne povredjuje ni elfove. Da ne pricamo sto za njihove pare mozes dobiti po 6 golih khornovih knightova sa muzicarem. Bolje biju, i duze prezivljavaju, veruj.
Ovo pisem kao najdobronamerniju kritiku baziranu na sada vec skoro 200 partija sa haosom. Moras da uguras bar 2 skrola, kucice i furije. Inace ce ti ijedna mobilnija armija (citaj svi sem patuljka i ogra) razvuci armiju i pocargeovati te u flank. DA ne pricamo o topovima i spear chukkama...
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Iskreno hvala na savetima...vecine (ne i svih) sam bio svestan i pri kreiranju armije... Ovo je zezatorska armija, laka za farbanje, dok Oliveru ne stigne sve sto sam narucio...onda cu imati armiju sa 5-8 jedinica vukova (kucica) 2-4 marauderske konjice (marauderi ce biti na Stevinim vucima), lord i ostali nece biti kornovci, svi ce biti undisajded... Inace kada budem pravio bas uber-armiju za turnir (posto ce verovatno neko da me iznervira na turniru, pa cu imati zelju da se svetim) znam koga da kontaktiram 8)
Vezano za generalne savete:
1) Ima malo figura = Lako za farbanje, kako budem zafarbavao dodatne figure, tako cu ih ubacivati u armiju.
2) 0 dispel scrollova - Ako igram protiv druge prijateljske liste to nije problem...a na turnir mogu da vodim tzeentch, ni to nije problem
3) Furije mi se ne uklapaju u fluff armije... (znam da su jako, jako korisne, samo, hocu da vodim armiju severnjaka posvecenih kultu vuka...tu nema bas puno mesta za furije ili letece raze...). Mada opet, ako me neko smori na turniru bice tu i furija i raza i plavo-zutih slina ako treba, samo ako imaju dobre statove... :lol: :lol: :lol:
4) kucica, tj. vukova ce biti jako, jako mnogo...mada to zavisi prvenstveno od starca i nabavke figura od njega... verovatno cu uzimati po 5-10 vukova po porudzbini
5) nema veze za frenzi mountove...
Dule, 100% si u pravu po svim pitanjima, kada budem hteo da vodim potentnu armiju za turnir prvo cu tebe da kontaktiram, za sada mi se svidja da budem underdog, veca je slast kada pobedis nekog... :D :D :D
Vezano za generalne savete:
1) Ima malo figura = Lako za farbanje, kako budem zafarbavao dodatne figure, tako cu ih ubacivati u armiju.
2) 0 dispel scrollova - Ako igram protiv druge prijateljske liste to nije problem...a na turnir mogu da vodim tzeentch, ni to nije problem
3) Furije mi se ne uklapaju u fluff armije... (znam da su jako, jako korisne, samo, hocu da vodim armiju severnjaka posvecenih kultu vuka...tu nema bas puno mesta za furije ili letece raze...). Mada opet, ako me neko smori na turniru bice tu i furija i raza i plavo-zutih slina ako treba, samo ako imaju dobre statove... :lol: :lol: :lol:
4) kucica, tj. vukova ce biti jako, jako mnogo...mada to zavisi prvenstveno od starca i nabavke figura od njega... verovatno cu uzimati po 5-10 vukova po porudzbini
5) nema veze za frenzi mountove...
Dule, 100% si u pravu po svim pitanjima, kada budem hteo da vodim potentnu armiju za turnir prvo cu tebe da kontaktiram, za sada mi se svidja da budem underdog, veca je slast kada pobedis nekog... :D :D :D
Tomb Kingovska Armija:
Tomb King - Destroyer of Eternities, Vambraces of Sun
Tomb Prince - Death Mask of Kharnut, Chariot
Liche Priest - Collar of Shapesh, Cloak of Dunes, Hierephant
Liche Priest - Hiatetic Jar, Dispel Scroll
21 Skeletons - hand weapon & shield,full command, War Banner
4 Chariots - standard, muzician, Icon of the sacred Eye
3 Chariots
20 Tomb Guard - Full Command, Banner of Undying Legion
4 Ushabti
1 Tomb scorpion
1 Tomb Scorpion
2 Screaming Scull Catapults
Tomb King - Destroyer of Eternities, Vambraces of Sun
Tomb Prince - Death Mask of Kharnut, Chariot
Liche Priest - Collar of Shapesh, Cloak of Dunes, Hierephant
Liche Priest - Hiatetic Jar, Dispel Scroll
21 Skeletons - hand weapon & shield,full command, War Banner
4 Chariots - standard, muzician, Icon of the sacred Eye
3 Chariots
20 Tomb Guard - Full Command, Banner of Undying Legion
4 Ushabti
1 Tomb scorpion
1 Tomb Scorpion
2 Screaming Scull Catapults
Last edited by teclis on Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:14 am, edited 2 times in total.
Voleo bih da cujem sta drugi misle o SoC vampir listi:
Rare:
2 x banshee
Special:
2 x balck coach
Core:
2 x 7 vukova sa sampionom
2 x 4 fell bats
30 x militia sa halberdama (skeletoni), full komanda
30 x levy sa halberdama (zombiji), standard, muzicar
Hero:
Vampire count, level 2 upgrade
3+ ward save od sutinga bilo koje vrste (da moze eventualno sam da izleti negde)
vanhel bound spell
dispell scroll
+1S magic sword
na barded konju, lance
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
bound item d3 s4 hitova, 1 wound = panic
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
magic resistance (1)
enemy wizards suffer -1 to cast
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
magic resistance (1)
svi u B2B piju s5 hit na kraju move faze
druga verzija bi bila potpuno ista samo count umesto sworda za +1S i dispell scrolla dobije sword koji mu za svaki wound da power kockicu
Ovako imam 2 bound itema + 3 grave markera = 5 bound spellova pre pocetka, doduse jadne, 4 PD, magic faze.... mada sa ovim macem moze i da ne bude jadna.
Najveci problem je nedostatak dispell scrollova i malo kockica u odbrani...
Rare:
2 x banshee
Special:
2 x balck coach
Core:
2 x 7 vukova sa sampionom
2 x 4 fell bats
30 x militia sa halberdama (skeletoni), full komanda
30 x levy sa halberdama (zombiji), standard, muzicar
Hero:
Vampire count, level 2 upgrade
3+ ward save od sutinga bilo koje vrste (da moze eventualno sam da izleti negde)
vanhel bound spell
dispell scroll
+1S magic sword
na barded konju, lance
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
bound item d3 s4 hitova, 1 wound = panic
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
magic resistance (1)
enemy wizards suffer -1 to cast
vampire thrall
na barded konju, lance, heavy armor, shield
magic resistance (1)
svi u B2B piju s5 hit na kraju move faze
druga verzija bi bila potpuno ista samo count umesto sworda za +1S i dispell scrolla dobije sword koji mu za svaki wound da power kockicu
Ovako imam 2 bound itema + 3 grave markera = 5 bound spellova pre pocetka, doduse jadne, 4 PD, magic faze.... mada sa ovim macem moze i da ne bude jadna.
Najveci problem je nedostatak dispell scrollova i malo kockica u odbrani...
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Pendargon
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Ah, Sylvania...Pa i nije losa lista, ali
1) vmpir ne moze da koristi lance ako ima mac za +1 na snagu
2) Meni se uvek cinilo da je vampir na konju strasno restriktivan.
Ja vec dugo dugo vremena pravim Army of Sylvania (malo se oduzilo, povremeno mi prestaje entuziijazam, pa se opet vrati, a trenutno pomalo cekam Vampirsku knjigu...) i moja lista je jako slicna i izgleda ovako
Count: great weapon, wolf form, crown of the damned, walking death
Thrall : Wolf form, Flayed hauberk, great weapon
Thrall : Wolf form, Wristband of black gold, Heavy armor, shield, Great weapon
Thrall : Wolf form, ring of the night, Heavy armor, shield, Great weapon
Direwolves x9
Direwolves x9
Direwolves x7
Direwolves x6
FEll bats x4
Fell bats x5
Black coach
Black coach
Spirit host x4
Black Knights x10, champion, musician, Banner of barrows
2250 on the nose.
Ideja je jednostavna : Tvoji vampiri se zatrce i pobiju sve na tabli, i onda pobedis
1) vmpir ne moze da koristi lance ako ima mac za +1 na snagu
2) Meni se uvek cinilo da je vampir na konju strasno restriktivan.
Ja vec dugo dugo vremena pravim Army of Sylvania (malo se oduzilo, povremeno mi prestaje entuziijazam, pa se opet vrati, a trenutno pomalo cekam Vampirsku knjigu...) i moja lista je jako slicna i izgleda ovako
Count: great weapon, wolf form, crown of the damned, walking death
Thrall : Wolf form, Flayed hauberk, great weapon
Thrall : Wolf form, Wristband of black gold, Heavy armor, shield, Great weapon
Thrall : Wolf form, ring of the night, Heavy armor, shield, Great weapon
Direwolves x9
Direwolves x9
Direwolves x7
Direwolves x6
FEll bats x4
Fell bats x5
Black coach
Black coach
Spirit host x4
Black Knights x10, champion, musician, Banner of barrows
2250 on the nose.
Ideja je jednostavna : Tvoji vampiri se zatrce i pobiju sve na tabli, i onda pobedis
Ma ima drugih listi koje to bolje rade... ovo je ona druga krajnost gde svi vampiri idu 9, odnosno 18".... medjutim problem kod ove liste je sto te neko ko mnogo puca (reimo HE SoC lista ili neko slican) oljusti cas posla, i onda vampiri nemaju gde da se stekaju do pravog trenutka... Naravno opet protiv nekih drugih listi su bolji... kao i uvek sve zavisi
Lance nema u listi, slucajno sam ga ubacio prilikom copy paste-a :lol:
Lance nema u listi, slucajno sam ga ubacio prilikom copy paste-a :lol:
I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
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Mislim da je zbog pravila da uvek igraju poslednji zombijima bolje dati la+ shield ako mogu ili nista da stekujes neki poen. Mac koji daje dodatne power kockice u hth mi se ne svidja zato sto:
1. Koliko ces vremena provesti u hth?
2. On ti u proseku da 2-3 kockice sto tvoju fazu nece uciniti dominantnom.
Pogledacu narednih dana vampirske knjige pa cu postovati ako mi padne nesto na pamet.
1. Koliko ces vremena provesti u hth?
2. On ti u proseku da 2-3 kockice sto tvoju fazu nece uciniti dominantnom.
Pogledacu narednih dana vampirske knjige pa cu postovati ako mi padne nesto na pamet.
Pa ima kao tih fell batova i vukova koji su svi u drugom krugu oko masina... a imas i taj kao neki ward save koji prodje povremeno, a i ako gadjas kocije, ostalo stigne celo.... Naravno to je sve sta bi bilo kad bi bilo jelte
Zombijima je besplatan halberd, ide uz opis radnog mesta (spear ili halberd, ja cenim da je halberda bolja, mada ne mora da znaci.... opet zavisi protiv cega)
Naravno da ova lista nije dominatorska, samo mi se prvobitno cinila totalno retardiranom, pa sam pokusao da nadjem neku kombinaciju koja ne bi bas uvek izgubila sa masakrom... cisto onako sto se kaze: bilo mi dosadno na poslu. Razgledam sta koja lista moze da uglavi i tako to....
Zombijima je besplatan halberd, ide uz opis radnog mesta (spear ili halberd, ja cenim da je halberda bolja, mada ne mora da znaci.... opet zavisi protiv cega)
Naravno da ova lista nije dominatorska, samo mi se prvobitno cinila totalno retardiranom, pa sam pokusao da nadjem neku kombinaciju koja ne bi bas uvek izgubila sa masakrom... cisto onako sto se kaze: bilo mi dosadno na poslu
. Razgledam sta koja lista moze da uglavi i tako to....I must appologize for the explosion that blew off the door of The Chamber Unbreachable, but the simultaneous emergence of seventeen demons from the book spine, caused the spiritual detonation in the soul stoned air of the room.
The whole enterprise was an experience most horrendeous. None but I could have endured it. I was almost damned twice. Even now my soul is twisted to a cork screw.
I suggest you keep the state of your soul to yourself, and inform us, instead, what you have gleamed from the Grimoire.
Hatred and prejudice will never be eradicated. And witch hunts will never be about witches. To have a scapegoat - that's the key. Humans always fear the alien, the odd. Once the mages had left Novigrad, folk turned their anger against the other races... and, as they have for ages, branded their neighbors their greatest foes.
And 'cause I was gazillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free.
Glory to Arstotzka!
High Elfovska armija sa Teclisom:
Teclis 630pts
Mage - lvl2, Elf Steed, Ring of Corin, Jewel of the Dusk 192pts
Commander - Elf Steed Ithilmar Barding, Dragon Armour, Shield, Lion Guard 140pts
10 Archers 120pts
5 Silver Helms - musician 122pts
5 Silver Helms - musician 122pts
6 Dragon Princes - full command, War Banner 193pts, Helm of Fortune
16 Swormasters - full command, Banner of Sorcery, Amulet of Purifying Flame 355pts
5 Shadow Warriors 75 pts
2 Great Eagles 100pts
2 RBT 200pts
Teclis 630pts
Mage - lvl2, Elf Steed, Ring of Corin, Jewel of the Dusk 192pts
Commander - Elf Steed Ithilmar Barding, Dragon Armour, Shield, Lion Guard 140pts
10 Archers 120pts
5 Silver Helms - musician 122pts
5 Silver Helms - musician 122pts
6 Dragon Princes - full command, War Banner 193pts, Helm of Fortune
16 Swormasters - full command, Banner of Sorcery, Amulet of Purifying Flame 355pts
5 Shadow Warriors 75 pts
2 Great Eagles 100pts
2 RBT 200pts
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Archeri ti ama bas nicemu ne sluze ako ih nemas bar 30...
Meni se ne cini kao dobra ideja da uzmes samo jednu rank and file jedinicu a da ti ostatak vojske cine konjica, letaci i skauti... Posto ti je ta jedinica Swordmastera ocigledno glavna jedinica i jedina s kojom bi zapravo i moglo nesto da se uradi, a ona ce do close combata stici posle svih, a sama ne moze mnogo toga da uradi, ne vidim poentu uzimanju ostalih jedinica, posto su one brze i cilj im je da sto pre stignu do close combata u kome ne bi mogli nista da urade bez Swordmastera... Kakav si ti generalnu strategiju zamislio sa ovom vojskom?
Meni se ne cini kao dobra ideja da uzmes samo jednu rank and file jedinicu a da ti ostatak vojske cine konjica, letaci i skauti... Posto ti je ta jedinica Swordmastera ocigledno glavna jedinica i jedina s kojom bi zapravo i moglo nesto da se uradi, a ona ce do close combata stici posle svih, a sama ne moze mnogo toga da uradi, ne vidim poentu uzimanju ostalih jedinica, posto su one brze i cilj im je da sto pre stignu do close combata u kome ne bi mogli nista da urade bez Swordmastera... Kakav si ti generalnu strategiju zamislio sa ovom vojskom?
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bojan
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Ubijaju naporne lake konjice. Nije najisplativije trosenje poena ali ima neku svrhu...Gorbash wrote:Archeri ti ama bas nicemu ne sluze ako ih nemas bar 30...
Konjice od 5 sa muzicarem su zlato - to ti je nesto poput lake konjice sa 2+ Save-om......ne vidim poentu uzimanju ostalih jedinica, posto su one brze i cilj im je da sto pre stignu do close combata u kome ne bi mogli nista da urade bez Swordmastera... Kakav si ti generalnu strategiju zamislio sa ovom vojskom?
6 shljamova sa warbannerom ima potencijala da cisti dosta manjih jedinica. Ja bih ih doduse menjao u Princeze. - za 24 boda dobije se dosta toga.
Orlusine su must have u elfovskoj vojskci.
Skauti - nesto mora da umre izvlaceci fanatike, a to je jedina donekle jeftina jedinica u inace preskupoj vojsci.
Problem sa protivnikom koji te outnumber-uje imas sa SVIM elfovima osim mozda u nekim cudnim DE listama.
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
nije 24, beta, vec 26 poena za Princeze... One kostaju 3 poena vise i imaju M9, +1WS, +1I, +1Ld & naravno Dragon Armour - imunost na pola magija i na flame cannon itd. Mada bih mogao da ih uzmem umesto shadow warriora i archera 
A sto se tice strategije, ako mogu da kazem je to da Teclis ima 4PD za lvl4 + 2PD (i DD) od itema + 2PD basic + D3PD Banner of Sorcery = 9-11 PD na magiju, a sve magic missile koje zahtevaju range u inchima baca na LOS, i moze da re-roll spell effects (ako je magija 2D6 S4 - moze re-roll kocku od 2D6 i re-roll sve sto nije ranio). To je magija, a jedinica Swordmastera je stubborn na 9, SilverHelmi sa Bannerom su dobri, a 2 jedinice Silverhelma rade svoje na boku ( jos ako se uklope tu i princeze, bice zajebano...)
Vazno je da Teclis pobaca svoje (najverovatnije Lore of Death ili Shadow, mada Spirit of the Forge sa LOS ili Burning Head preko celog terena, nasty
. Jos da dodamo oduzimaca itema,
Kod Teclisa jedino je moguca ona magija Creeping Death - 3D6 S1 no armour save, ako me seru 6ice kao sto je druga Highborna protiv haosa 8) .Teclis treba samo da se cuva od djuladi, jer ovako ima 2+ ward save na jednoj rani...
A sto se tice strategije, ako mogu da kazem je to da Teclis ima 4PD za lvl4 + 2PD (i DD) od itema + 2PD basic + D3PD Banner of Sorcery = 9-11 PD na magiju, a sve magic missile koje zahtevaju range u inchima baca na LOS, i moze da re-roll spell effects (ako je magija 2D6 S4 - moze re-roll kocku od 2D6 i re-roll sve sto nije ranio). To je magija, a jedinica Swordmastera je stubborn na 9, SilverHelmi sa Bannerom su dobri, a 2 jedinice Silverhelma rade svoje na boku ( jos ako se uklope tu i princeze, bice zajebano...)
Vazno je da Teclis pobaca svoje (najverovatnije Lore of Death ili Shadow, mada Spirit of the Forge sa LOS ili Burning Head preko celog terena, nasty
. Jos da dodamo oduzimaca itema, Kod Teclisa jedino je moguca ona magija Creeping Death - 3D6 S1 no armour save, ako me seru 6ice kao sto je druga Highborna protiv haosa 8) .Teclis treba samo da se cuva od djuladi, jer ovako ima 2+ ward save na jednoj rani...
Kao ne moze da se uradi sa jedinicom sa Stubborn na Ld9, S5 i WS6 koji udaraju po inicijativi... Mislim da si potcenio moc SwordmasteraGorbash wrote:jedinica Swordmastera ce do close combata stici posle svih, a sama ne moze mnogo toga da uradi
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Govorim u razlici u ceni:teclis wrote:nije 24, beta, vec 26 poena za Princeze...
6 x Shljamovi - 6x22=132
6 x Princeze - 6x26=156
Znaci razlika je 24pts. Doduse mislim da je komanda za princeze nesto skuplja ali nesto potpuno marginalno (josh 5pts recimo).
Znaci:
Skines 4 Swordmastera. Kada im se pridruzi komandir na konju dobijes taman lepu 3x6 formaciju. Moje iskustvo je da sa pesadijom koja moze da napravi neku stetu (a SwM mogu) vise se isplati dodatna sirina nego dodatni red. Ionako su stubborn na ld 9.
Komandiru daj obican heavy armor - nista mu ne znaci da ima dragon armor kada je u SwM.
Za te poene unapredis onih 6 Shljamova u Princeze i probas natuci josh par poena da das njihovom sampionu helm of fortune - kada ti se desi nesreca da ti neko dira Princeze taj cika vice challenge i smanjuje protivnikov CR.
Nazalost taj ward mu je retardiran pa ga ne stiti od Killing Blow-a ni multi-wound oruzja - tj. ako neko zarola 6 na topu ode Teklis.Teclis treba samo da se cuva od djuladi, jer ovako ima 2+ ward save na jednoj rani...
Medjutim imas dosta jedinica gde ga mozes kriti.
Skaute ne izbacuj nikako - ako naletis na orka/goblina sa fanaticima isplatice se visestruko.
CYNIC, n.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.
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To sve stoji. Meni se bas svidja ideja za cheesy turnirske elfove :P . Jedino me interesuje kako teclis ima 9-11 kad ima 8-10 (jewel of the dusk moze samo mali mag da koristi)? lvl4 4 + base 2 + moon staff 1 + banner of sorcery 1-3 = 8-10 ? Da li sam ja pogresio negde ili si ti mislio da jewel of the dusk radi i za njega ?
Ja cu inace doci ovaj put sa cinchem sa 2 topa i 12PD (cisto da unapred objavim da i ja ocu malo da budem munchkin, pogotovo posle uprisinga sa jednim magom i gleda... mislim igranjem protiv empire madjara djoze i madjara skavena i nekog nikolica WE-a...)
Ja cu inace doci ovaj put sa cinchem sa 2 topa i 12PD (cisto da unapred objavim da i ja ocu malo da budem munchkin, pogotovo posle uprisinga sa jednim magom i gleda... mislim igranjem protiv empire madjara djoze i madjara skavena i nekog nikolica WE-a...)
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Naravno, ne treba zaboraviti da je teklis toghness 2 i umre od jednog jedinog magic missilea. I daje 700+ poena. 8-10 pd i nije neki mesersmit od magicne faze...
A da probas vampose, oni su mozda solidniji izbor, Dragonlord ipak zahteva malo finese...?
Pa zadnji put ti ni to nije donelo neku preteranu premoc... :D :D :DJa cu inace doci ovaj put sa cinchem sa 2 topa i 12PD (cisto da unapred objavim da i ja ocu malo da budem munchkin, pogotovo posle uprisinga sa jednim magom i gleda... mislim igranjem protiv empire madjara djoze i madjara skavena i nekog nikolica WE-a...) Wink
A da probas vampose, oni su mozda solidniji izbor, Dragonlord ipak zahteva malo finese...?Pa vidis on ima item Moon Staff of Lileath, gde kaze da Teclis dobija 1 extra dice in each magic phase (including enemy magic phases)...Luka_Pancevo wrote:kako teclis ima 9-11 kad ima 8-10 (jewel of the dusk moze samo mali mag da koristi)? lvl4 4 + base 2 + moon staff 1 + banner of sorcery 1-3 = 8-10 ?
Znaci dobija 2PD i 2DD
A ja htedoh da stavim jos jednog maga sa Ring of Corin, i channelerom i
Silver Wandom pa da bas bude CHEESY
E razlika izmedju Dragon Armoura i Heavy Armoura je pisljiva 2 poena...
Komanda je skuplja za 10pts, ali prihvatljivo.
Dovloljno je da zarola 3, i ode...
ne nema nego ima T3, i od koje magije ce da umre ako je u jediniciPendargon wrote:Naravno, ne treba zaboraviti da je teklis toghness 2
to je 12-15 PD + prsten 8)Pendargon wrote:8-10 pd i nije neki mesersmit od magicne faze...
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Prosli put sam igrao sa cincem jer nisam imao poena ni za sta drugo, imao sam 2 cinch teske konjice i isao sam da se bijem. Zakucavao sam zmaja u sve zivo i odigrao 6 jako zanimljivih partija. Jos sam i best sports uzeo. Vodio bi vampose ali nemam obojene figure.Pendargon wrote:Naravno, ne treba zaboraviti da je teklis toghness 2 i umre od jednog jedinog magic missilea. I daje 700+ poena. 8-10 pd i nije neki mesersmit od magicne faze...Pa zadnji put ti ni to nije donelo neku preteranu premoc... :D :D :DJa cu inace doci ovaj put sa cinchem sa 2 topa i 12PD (cisto da unapred objavim da i ja ocu malo da budem munchkin, pogotovo posle uprisinga sa jednim magom i gleda... mislim igranjem protiv empire madjara djoze i madjara skavena i nekog nikolica WE-a...) Wink
Prilicno sam se izvestio sa jzmom i jako lepo sam iskonvertovao i obojio vojsku pa reko bolje sa njima da se igram na turniru nego na frendli partijama
Dobijes 1 PD u tvojoj magicnoj i DD u njegovoj magicnoj znaci 1 PD i 1 DD. To je 100%teclis wrote: Pa vidis on ima item Moon Staff of Lileath, gde kaze da Teclis dobija 1 extra dice in each magic phase (including enemy magic phases)...
Znaci dobija 2PD i 2DD Wink
A ja htedoh da stavim jos jednog maga sa Ring of Corin, i channelerom i
Silver Wandom pa da bas bude CHEESY Twisted Evil
edit: nemoj komandiru da das lion guard, jako je glupo ako ne koristish one GW elfove a i ako ih koristis opet je glupo :P . Ja mislim da je bolje da imas jos jednog maga sa 2 dispel skrola ili ring of fury + skrol...